Re: internal 950 HD

[Artur Yelchishchev]

David Culler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Any N-SCSI made in the last six years or so.
> 
> The Seagate ST-15150N would be an ideal candidate.
> Or you can try any of the Atlas drives made by Quantum. 

I can confirm that - now I have 4,3 Gb Quantum Atlas as my primary Q950
drive.

> Western Digital made some very quite and fast drives as well.  The Seagates tend
> to be noisy.

Indeed. BTW, old Conner Peripheral's disks are very quiet ones - my 1 Gb
CFA1080S (also installed in Q950) is really silent.

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Re: internal 950 HD

[Artur Yelchishchev]

David Culler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Any N-SCSI made in the last six years or so.
> 
> The Seagate ST-15150N would be an ideal candidate.
> Or you can try any of the Atlas drives made by Quantum. 

I can confirm that - now I have 4,3 Gb Quantum Atlas as my primary Q950
drive.

> Western Digital made some very quite and fast drives as well.  The Seagates tend
> to be noisy.

Indeed. BTW, old Conner Peripheral's disks are very quiet ones - my 1 Gb
CFA1080S (also installed in Q950) is really silent.

WBR,
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Re: internal 950 HD

[Robert Gray]

At 00:41:34 -0600 on 3/7/03, Steve Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>The best value is probably a Seagate ST-15150N ...for $10 or so.
>
>And I can get this where? I have yet to see them this cheap on eBay

There are at least 30 showing up in the "completed items" list in 
that price range (plus ~$10 S&H).  Look for all combinations of 
ST-15150N, i.e., ST15150N, ST15150, 15150, 15150N, and ST-15150.  You 
might also check for error listings, e.g., ST-1515oN, ST-15l50N, 
ST-1550N, etc.  Nobody goes there.

There are over 20 currently available.  Surplusstore will probably 
sell you a dozen for $20 each delivered.

>>Call Halted Specialties

Not bad.  Probably with warranty.  $15 plus $12 S&H
http://www.halted.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/cgi-local/smpagegen.exe?U+scstore+dnlz5542ffd5f3d5+-p+-c+scstore.cfg+18412


>>...and/or Dot Com Depot

Kaching!!!  $39 plus $9.50 S&H
http://www.diskdepot.com/productlist.html

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Re: internal 950 HD

[the pickle]

At 00:48 -0500 on 07/03/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>In a message dated 3/6/03 9:32:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
><<
>Why would you want one without the ability to terminate the SCSI bus?
>>>
>
>Because the 950's SCSI cable has an active terminator at the end of the cable
>... or it should, unless someone removed it.

Right, but looking for a drive without the *ability* to terminate is silly.

Turning off the termination on any normal drive should be a simple matter of
moving a jumper.
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Re: internal 950 HD

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In a message dated 3/6/03 10:31:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
And I can get this where? I have yet to see them this cheap on eBay
>>

Call Halted Specialties and/or Dot Com Depot in Sunnyvale, CA, area code 408.


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Re: internal 950 HD

[Steve Conrad]

>The best value is probably a Seagate ST-15150N 4.3 GB, fully supported by
>Drive Setup, and available for $10 or so.
>

And I can get this where? I have yet to see them this cheap on eBay

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Re: internal 950 HD

[David Culler]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Any N-SCSI made in the last six years or so.







The Seagate ST-15150N would be an ideal candidate.
Or you can try any of the Atlas drives made by Quantum.  Stay with 50 pin to
make it simple.  We could help you better if you would provide the info I asked
about.

Western Digital made some very quite and fast drives as well.  The Seagates tend
to be noisy.








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Re: internal 950 HD

[David Culler]

Matt R wrote:

okay, now that the termination issue is over, what is
a model of hard drive that can easily be set to be not
terminated





ANY.









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Re: internal 950 HD

[David Culler]

Matt R wrote:

> The internal drives of a Q950 are NOT supposed to be
> terminated because its backwards from other macs.  The
> cable is terminated.  Hence, I need an unterminated HD
> for it.
>
> Matt

NO ONE SHOUTED AT YOU!   You ask US for help.  Yes the 950 did come with a
terminator on the cable, but most of them have probability been modified.  The
five drive rack was very popular, I have one in both off my 950s and because of
the SCSI set up I removed the terminators  (if they were even still there).

If you want an unterminated drive just pull the jumper from the circuit board on
the drive.  Sheesh.









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Re: internal 950 HD

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In a message dated 3/6/03 10:00:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
okay, now that the termination issue is over, what is
a model of hard drive that can easily be set to be not
terminated.
>>

Any N-SCSI made in the last six years or so.

The Seagate ST-15150N would be an ideal candidate.


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Re: internal 950 HD

[Matt R]

okay, now that the termination issue is over, what is
a model of hard drive that can easily be set to be not
terminated.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 3/6/03 9:32:03 PM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> <<
> Why would you want one without the ability to
> terminate the SCSI bus?
> >>
> 
> Because the 950's SCSI cable has an active
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> ... or it should, unless someone removed it.
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Re: internal 950 HD

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 3/6/03 9:32:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> <<
> Why would you want one without the ability to terminate the SCSI bus?
> >>
>
> Because the 950's SCSI cable has an active terminator at the end of the cable
> ... or it should, unless someone removed it.
>

As I said








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Re: internal 950 HD

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
> >>
> Since the 950 and all its variants incorporated a terminator on the physical
> end of the internal SCSI cable, no internal SCSI drive should have a
> terminator present.
> <<

**Assuming** the terminator is still attached to the cable.  Most 950s I have
come across have had this terminator removed.










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Re: internal 950 HD

[Matt R]

The internal drives of a Q950 are NOT supposed to be
terminated because its backwards from other macs.  The
cable is terminated.  Hence, I need an unterminated HD
for it.  

Matt


--- David Culler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matt R wrote:
> 
> > Looking for a good interal HD for my Q950.  Any
> > suggestions on a good model without termination?
> 
> Any SCSI drive connected at either end of the SCSI
> chain, even if it is the only
> device connected to the bus, and is internal, will
> need to terminated.  Any
> devices in the middle of the bus should not be
> terminated.  This can be handled
> by properly setting the jumpers on the drive,
> providing the termination
> resistors are still attached.
> 
> As for a good model:
> 
> How much capacity and speed do you need/want and how
> much do you want to spend?
> 
> What OS are you planning to use and will you be
> using one of the onboard SCSI
> buses or will you be using a Nubus SCSI accelerator?
> 
> Do you want new or used?
> 
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Re: internal 950 HD

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In a message dated 3/6/03 9:32:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
Why would you want one without the ability to terminate the SCSI bus?
>>

Because the 950's SCSI cable has an active terminator at the end of the cable 
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Re: internal 950 HD

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In a message dated 3/6/03 9:20:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
Looking for a good interal HD for my Q950.  Any suggestions on a good model 
without termination?
>>

The best value is probably a Seagate ST-15150N 4.3 GB, fully supported by 
Drive Setup, and available for $10 or so.

Since the 950 and all its variants incorporated a terminator on the physical 
end of the internal SCSI cable, no internal SCSI drive should have a 
terminator present.


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Re: internal 950 HD

[David Culler]

Matt R wrote:

> Looking for a good interal HD for my Q950.  Any
> suggestions on a good model without termination?

Any SCSI drive connected at either end of the SCSI chain, even if it is the only
device connected to the bus, and is internal, will need to terminated.  Any
devices in the middle of the bus should not be terminated.  This can be handled
by properly setting the jumpers on the drive, providing the termination
resistors are still attached.

As for a good model:

How much capacity and speed do you need/want and how much do you want to spend?

What OS are you planning to use and will you be using one of the onboard SCSI
buses or will you be using a Nubus SCSI accelerator?

Do you want new or used?



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Re: internal 950 HD

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At 21:20 -0800 on 06/03/03, Matt R wrote:

>Looking for a good interal HD for my Q950.  Any
>suggestions on a good model without termination?

Why would you want one without the ability to terminate the SCSI bus?
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