[Quantum Owners] Re: CVH swap wiring
cheers Jim ive checked that wire (not green though on account of the wiring being a bit of a mess) and it does indeed go to the pos on the coil, so that's one wire sorted for the CVH 3 pin wiring, ill just wire in the neg and earth separate and bypass the resistor while on the subject of electrics ive one more query when I was stripping the engine bay down to prepare for engine removal I came across 2 relays and a sort of scary looking plastic bit with diodes or something lurking out from one of them unfortunately I cant find a reference in the Haynes manual for a badly bodged pair of relays with spade connectors instead of a proper relay mount section, they were just loose dangling rather close to the alternator drive belt (nice) so my next questions are what are they? do I need them now ive swapped to CVH? first picture is the 2 relays together and they were bundled together with a bit of tape, weather that meant they work together or not im not too sure http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00167.jpg the next pictures are of the scary wiry bit attached to one of the relays http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00168.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00169.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00170-1.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00171.jpg other than the horn I have no other relays under the bonnet and if I need them id like to tidy them up, replacing them with new ones fitted to proper relay holders wont be too much of an issue (as I did with the horn) but im puzzled by the wires and diodes / resistors or whatever they are ? thank you all very much in advance the help is priceless and very much appreciated regards j king On 22 Aug, 17:59, Jim Hearne j...@quantums.info wrote: Disconnect it and join the 2 wires. The wire going to the old distibutor should have been a green one which goes to the -ve on the coil. The new distributor will be electronic and will need a feed from the positive on the coil, black (the same wire you removed the resistance wire from) and an earth, brown, as well as the original green. Jim On 22/08/2010 11:19, jin wrote: cheers jim, regarding the resistor wire which is as you describe, with bullet connectors, do i just disconnect it and leave it? or disconnect it and reconnect the 2 wires where it joined? looking closer at the starters it looks like the terminals are numbers so ill whip the new one off and trace the numbers to the old. cheers for your help. by the way, having done this swap yourself before, do you have any guidance as to what to do regarding the distributor?, i only had one wire going to the old points distributor and have no idea what it does as it fell off and the battery is out the car, will this be needed as part of the 3 pin conection on the new distributor? chers again, youve been a great help with this project, On 21 Aug, 20:47, Jim Hearnej...@quantums.info wrote: The spade terminal on the old one is the one from the starter contact on the ignition switch, this is the one you need to connect to the small terminal on the new starter. The other small terminal on your loom goes to one side of a resistance wire between the ignition switch (the main ignition circuit not the starter circuit) and the ignition coil. On the OHV engine the ignition coil is run via a resistance wire normally and this is shorted out by the contact in the starter motor when the starter is turning to boost power to the coil. You can't use this setup on your new starter so you need to change the coil to a CVH one (the OHV will overheat) and remove the resistance wire. The resistance wire is normally pluged into the main loom via a couple of bullet type connectors near the coil. Jim On 21/08/2010 19:31, jin wrote: Hi all. so ive got the xr2 engine in and bolted up, ive started to unravel the wiring I pulled out the way to clean and repaint the chassis and have started to try to put it in the right places. thinking the original OHV starter was probably a bad idea I went down the scrappy today and plucked one from a k reg mk3 with a CVH in it. its bolted up ok and looking at the sizes of things the OHV starter is too long to fit as it would foul my new super sexy 4 branch manifold. not paying much attention I bolted it on without looking at the connections and now im puzzled by the terminals, both have 3 terminals but the OHV has a spade and the CVH doesn't, to demonstrate here's a pic OHV [img]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00162.jpg[/img] CVH (bolted to car) [img]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00161.jpg[/img] [img]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00159.jpg[/img] anyone got any ideas which wires go where, I know the bigger of the 3 go to the main threaded lug but on my wiring on the car I also have 1 spade and
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: CVH swap wiring
The green wire from the distributor should got to the -ve (you mentioned +ve) terminal on the coil, if the car has a rev counter another green will leave the coil, possibly go through a suppressor and go to the rev counter. The black wire on the distributor should go to the +ve on the coil and then via the removed resistive lead to an ignition switched feed in the main loom. The brown on the distributor is connected to ground, preferably the battery earth not the engine. The relay with the 2 diode attached is almost certainly the one for the headlight flap motor. The diodes take signals from the main beam and dipped beam or sidelights (depends how it was wired) and operate the relay for the flap motor if either are on. The diodes are needed so that the relay is active if either of the 2 circuits are active. The flap relay is a changeover so it always supplys power to one of 2 terminals on the flap motor. The other relay may be for front fog or spot lights if you have them. Jim On 22/08/2010 21:55, jin wrote: cheers Jim ive checked that wire (not green though on account of the wiring being a bit of a mess) and it does indeed go to the pos on the coil, so that's one wire sorted for the CVH 3 pin wiring, ill just wire in the neg and earth separate and bypass the resistor while on the subject of electrics ive one more query when I was stripping the engine bay down to prepare for engine removal I came across 2 relays and a sort of scary looking plastic bit with diodes or something lurking out from one of them unfortunately I cant find a reference in the Haynes manual for a badly bodged pair of relays with spade connectors instead of a proper relay mount section, they were just loose dangling rather close to the alternator drive belt (nice) so my next questions are what are they? do I need them now ive swapped to CVH? first picture is the 2 relays together and they were bundled together with a bit of tape, weather that meant they work together or not im not too sure http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00167.jpg the next pictures are of the scary wiry bit attached to one of the relays http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00168.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00169.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00170-1.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00171.jpg other than the horn I have no other relays under the bonnet and if I need them id like to tidy them up, replacing them with new ones fitted to proper relay holders wont be too much of an issue (as I did with the horn) but im puzzled by the wires and diodes / resistors or whatever they are ? thank you all very much in advance the help is priceless and very much appreciated regards j king On 22 Aug, 17:59, Jim Hearnej...@quantums.info wrote: Disconnect it and join the 2 wires. The wire going to the old distibutor should have been a green one which goes to the -ve on the coil. The new distributor will be electronic and will need a feed from the positive on the coil, black (the same wire you removed the resistance wire from) and an earth, brown, as well as the original green. Jim On 22/08/2010 11:19, jin wrote: cheers jim, regarding the resistor wire which is as you describe, with bullet connectors, do i just disconnect it and leave it? or disconnect it and reconnect the 2 wires where it joined? looking closer at the starters it looks like the terminals are numbers so ill whip the new one off and trace the numbers to the old. cheers for your help. by the way, having done this swap yourself before, do you have any guidance as to what to do regarding the distributor?, i only had one wire going to the old points distributor and have no idea what it does as it fell off and the battery is out the car, will this be needed as part of the 3 pin conection on the new distributor? chers again, youve been a great help with this project, On 21 Aug, 20:47, Jim Hearnej...@quantums.infowrote: The spade terminal on the old one is the one from the starter contact on the ignition switch, this is the one you need to connect to the small terminal on the new starter. The other small terminal on your loom goes to one side of a resistance wire between the ignition switch (the main ignition circuit not the starter circuit) and the ignition coil. On the OHV engine the ignition coil is run via a resistance wire normally and this is shorted out by the contact in the starter motor when the starter is turning to boost power to the coil. You can't use this setup on your new starter so you need to change the coil to a CVH one (the OHV will overheat) and remove the resistance wire. The resistance wire is normally pluged into the main loom via a couple of bullet type connectors near the coil. Jim On 21/08/2010 19:31, jin wrote: Hi all. so ive got the xr2 engine in and bolted up, ive started to unravel the wiring I pulled out the way to clean and repaint the
[Quantum Owners] Re: CVH swap wiring
thanks very much Jim, your right, I got my polarity mixed up a bit there, thank you for your help with that also thank you regarding the identification of the relay and the diodes, I took another look at it this morning and it did dawn on me that it was probably for the headlight flaps, as it looks a bit untidy im hoping to replace the components involved for new and make a better job of it, im assuming somewhere in the build manual that it explains how to make up the diode wiring with specs etc? if so does anyone have a copy I could look at to see what is what? also regarding the other relay, its wires go off up into the loom within the bulkhead and im fairly sure it controls something to do with the starting, is it known for a starter / ignition relay to be added within the engine bay? ultimately ill buy a new relay and wire it in with a proper holder but I just like to know what it does, for peace of mind if nothing else as ever your help is very gratefully received regards J king On 23 Aug, 09:32, Jim Hearne j...@quantums.info wrote: The green wire from the distributor should got to the -ve (you mentioned +ve) terminal on the coil, if the car has a rev counter another green will leave the coil, possibly go through a suppressor and go to the rev counter. The black wire on the distributor should go to the +ve on the coil and then via the removed resistive lead to an ignition switched feed in the main loom. The brown on the distributor is connected to ground, preferably the battery earth not the engine. The relay with the 2 diode attached is almost certainly the one for the headlight flap motor. The diodes take signals from the main beam and dipped beam or sidelights (depends how it was wired) and operate the relay for the flap motor if either are on. The diodes are needed so that the relay is active if either of the 2 circuits are active. The flap relay is a changeover so it always supplys power to one of 2 terminals on the flap motor. The other relay may be for front fog or spot lights if you have them. Jim On 22/08/2010 21:55, jin wrote: cheers Jim ive checked that wire (not green though on account of the wiring being a bit of a mess) and it does indeed go to the pos on the coil, so that's one wire sorted for the CVH 3 pin wiring, ill just wire in the neg and earth separate and bypass the resistor while on the subject of electrics ive one more query when I was stripping the engine bay down to prepare for engine removal I came across 2 relays and a sort of scary looking plastic bit with diodes or something lurking out from one of them unfortunately I cant find a reference in the Haynes manual for a badly bodged pair of relays with spade connectors instead of a proper relay mount section, they were just loose dangling rather close to the alternator drive belt (nice) so my next questions are what are they? do I need them now ive swapped to CVH? first picture is the 2 relays together and they were bundled together with a bit of tape, weather that meant they work together or not im not too sure http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00167.jpg the next pictures are of the scary wiry bit attached to one of the relays http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00168.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00169.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00170-1.jpg http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o192/jindal/DSC00171.jpg other than the horn I have no other relays under the bonnet and if I need them id like to tidy them up, replacing them with new ones fitted to proper relay holders wont be too much of an issue (as I did with the horn) but im puzzled by the wires and diodes / resistors or whatever they are ? thank you all very much in advance the help is priceless and very much appreciated regards j king On 22 Aug, 17:59, Jim Hearnej...@quantums.info wrote: Disconnect it and join the 2 wires. The wire going to the old distibutor should have been a green one which goes to the -ve on the coil. The new distributor will be electronic and will need a feed from the positive on the coil, black (the same wire you removed the resistance wire from) and an earth, brown, as well as the original green. Jim On 22/08/2010 11:19, jin wrote: cheers jim, regarding the resistor wire which is as you describe, with bullet connectors, do i just disconnect it and leave it? or disconnect it and reconnect the 2 wires where it joined? looking closer at the starters it looks like the terminals are numbers so ill whip the new one off and trace the numbers to the old. cheers for your help. by the way, having done this swap yourself before, do you have any guidance as to what to do regarding the distributor?, i only had one wire going to the old points distributor and have no idea what it does as it fell off and the battery is out the
[Quantum Owners] Re: QM68
Hmm. I'm having trouble logging in on the site - I visit it very rarely but it seems none of my 'standard' logins are on there... Neil On 19 Aug, 15:11, Hamish Freeman ham...@blimps.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Just downloaded the latest QM - very impressive, full of good technical stuff and plenty to read. Jan - did you get my replies to your request? I did check your email address to ensure that it had not changed after having missed certain other people's change of address earlier this year! Hamish -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: Members log in
Ah, not just me then! I can't get in either. Neil On 20 Aug, 19:47, Robert Craig bobbycrai...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: No problem Russell - enjoy your holiday Cheers Bob - Original Message - From: russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Members log in Robert, I am in Tenerife at the moment but hopefully Steve will pick up the request and sort it out. If not I am back on the 27th Russell Message Received: Aug 20 2010, 06:36 PM From: Robert Craig To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Cc: Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Members log in Mee too - I've sent an email to the address on the site asking for my details (the previous log in and password from QM67 don't work any more). Bob Craig - Original Message - From: Mark To: Quantum Owners Group Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:14 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Members log in Does anyone know what the procedure is for login in to the members section of the website? Both my dad I have been memebers a while have not noticablely recieved anything on how to access. Please help, would like to make more use of the website. Thanks Mark Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: steering column big squeak and alternator adjustment
Yes thanks that is what I ended up doing, I am not sure if these polybelts need more tension than the old fashioned plain v belts (sorry I am used to classic cars) as 1/2 inch slack in the middle of the belt would seem very excessive on this type of belt, what is the slack I am aiming for? On 22 Aug, 22:03, John Woodward john.woodw...@tesco.net wrote: Can't help with the steering column, but adjusting the alternator belt is fairly simple on the 1800 diesel engine, instead of the crowfoot adapter I just use a large open ended spanner (20,21,22 mm I can't remember which, slacken off the 13 mm lock bolt, then you can use the large spanner to adjust the tension (the same as a normal ribbed belt tension), then lock it in position with the 13mm lock bolt. I've done over 20,000 miles had no problem with the belt slipping or wearing out. In fact its a lot easier to adjust than the normal arrangement on the CVH engine. John On Aug 21, 1:31 pm, cormorant jsaxby...@googlemail.com wrote: My steering column is giving a horrendously loud rubbery squeaking noise when the steering wheel is turned, have squirted wd40 down there and waited but the noise persists, seems to come from the upper bearing, is this a common problem? Also the manual suggest a really complicated method for adjusting the alternator belt tension (rack type and polybelt - 1800 diesel) involving 2 torque wrenches and a crowfoot adapter, is there a simple way to set the tension? many thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: steering column big squeak and alternator adjustment
Thanks will try thet then! WD40 seemed to get me nowhere On 22 Aug, 22:22, Gary gary_brokensh...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: My old fiesta squeeked on the rubber in the bulkhead fairy liquid sorted that one. Gary cormorant wrote: My steering column is giving a horrendously loud rubbery squeaking noise when the steering wheel is turned, have squirted wd40 down there and waited but the noise persists, seems to come from the upper bearing, is this a common problem? Also the manual suggest a really complicated method for adjusting the alternator belt tension (rack type and polybelt - 1800 diesel) involving 2 torque wrenches and a crowfoot adapter, is there a simple way to set the tension? many thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: QM68
Neil, I'm having the same problem and emailed Russell - he is on holiday just now but will help when he returns. I'd suggest emailing your membership number to him on the address on the website. cheers Bob Craig - Original Message - From: barnacle nailed.barna...@gmail.com To: Quantum Owners Group quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:31 PM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: QM68 Hmm. I'm having trouble logging in on the site - I visit it very rarely but it seems none of my 'standard' logins are on there... Neil On 19 Aug, 15:11, Hamish Freeman ham...@blimps.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Just downloaded the latest QM - very impressive, full of good technical stuff and plenty to read. Jan - did you get my replies to your request? I did check your email address to ensure that it had not changed after having missed certain other people's change of address earlier this year! Hamish -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: QM68
Didn't Steve send us all an Email around Stoneleigh time advising us of our login username and password? I certainly got mine and it worked a treat. Paschal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
[Quantum Owners] Re: steering column big squeak and alternator adjustment
I basically get the tension tight so there is no slack, but not over tight to cause alternator bearing failure, seems to have worked OK for me. John On Aug 23, 7:15 pm, cormorant jsaxby...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thanks that is what I ended up doing, I am not sure if these polybelts need more tension than the old fashioned plain v belts (sorry I am used to classic cars) as 1/2 inch slack in the middle of the belt would seem very excessive on this type of belt, what is the slack I am aiming for? On 22 Aug, 22:03, John Woodward john.woodw...@tesco.net wrote: Can't help with the steering column, but adjusting the alternator belt is fairly simple on the 1800 diesel engine, instead of the crowfoot adapter I just use a large open ended spanner (20,21,22 mm I can't remember which, slacken off the 13 mm lock bolt, then you can use the large spanner to adjust the tension (the same as a normal ribbed belt tension), then lock it in position with the 13mm lock bolt. I've done over 20,000 miles had no problem with the belt slipping or wearing out. In fact its a lot easier to adjust than the normal arrangement on the CVH engine. John On Aug 21, 1:31 pm, cormorant jsaxby...@googlemail.com wrote: My steering column is giving a horrendously loud rubbery squeaking noise when the steering wheel is turned, have squirted wd40 down there and waited but the noise persists, seems to come from the upper bearing, is this a common problem? Also the manual suggest a really complicated method for adjusting the alternator belt tension (rack type and polybelt - 1800 diesel) involving 2 torque wrenches and a crowfoot adapter, is there a simple way to set the tension? many thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Quantum Owners Group group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an As Is basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s).
