Re: [Quantum Owners] Black Top Zetec Breathing

2016-03-05 Thread Steve Kodź 
Thanks for the answers/comments.

The engine used to have the standard inlet manifold, but is not running
with throttle bodies, so I can no longer vent into the inlet.

The rocker cover breather was just venting downwards - it doesn't look
like that pipe have been blowing out oil.  The crankcase (one below the
piston level, was being fed into the old inlet and it was these that I
was considering connecting together, but I now realise that wouldn't be
a good idea.  Not having a vacuum to draw out the fumes we will need to
look at some form of catch tank set up.

Regards,
Steve

h4-turbo.co.uk
quantumowners.co.uk

On 05/03/16 22:16, Jim Hearne wrote:
> Did you mean sump breather (i don't think there is one of those) into
> the crankcase breather.
>
> There is just the one crankcase breather (this is just above the sump)
> on the Zetec-R and Zetec-E
>
> The Zetec breather system has a connection from the crankcase (on the
> front of the block) via a one way valve into the inlet manifold that
> maintains a slight vacuum inside the crankcase.
> There are oil drain passages in the block from the crankcase to the
> head so the crankcase and rocker cover are directly connected
> effectively.
> The rocker cover has a vent pipe that goes off to the air filter, the
> engine will normally have a slight vacuum inside the crankcase and
> will be sucking a small amount of air in via this pipe.
>
> If you remove the connection into the inlet manifold like a lot of
> people do then you will have some pressure in the crankcase (from
> combustion fumes getting past the rings) instead of a small vacuum.
> This will tend to blow out some oil along with the crankcase fumes and
> need a catch tank as been mentioned.
> With the standard system this oil just gets sucked into the engine and
> burnt.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> On 05/03/2016 14:53, Steve Kodź wrote:
>> Anyone see issues if I was to connect the sump breather into the
>> crankcase breather?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>> -- 
>> h4-turbo.co.uk
>> quantumowners.co.uk
>>
>>
>

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Re: [Quantum Owners] 1.8 Zetec 130ps ECU wanted.

2016-03-05 Thread Jim Hearne 
Armed with the replacement ecu i started the Zetec in the saloon today 
for the first time in 8 years.
It fired straight up followed by a vast cloud of rubber smoke from the 
engine bay as the alternator had seized and the belt was slipping over 
the pulley.
Turning the alternator fan by jamming a  screwdriver in it freed it 
enough to spin again and it now seems ok apart from a grumbling noise.
Strange the alternator seized as the car has been in a slightly heated 
garage all the time.


Now to get it over here instead of at my parents and finish rebuilding 
the interior that i started all that time ago.


Jim






On 21/01/2016 10:14, Jim Hearne wrote:
A suitable ECU is now on it's way to me thanks to a kind person on 
this list.


Thank you very much,

Jim


-Original Message- From: Jim Hearne
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 3:37 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 1.8 Zetec 130ps ECU wanted.

Yes, i have a Megasquirt that i fitted into a Ford ecu case but it's not
mapped.
I just want to get it up and running again (after 8 years) with a 
standard


Ford ECU.

Jim


-Original Message- From: st...@h4-turbo.co.uk
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 3:31 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 1.8 Zetec 130ps ECU wanted.

I've one of his Megasquirt ECUs that is slowly going into my H4. 
However I

think Jim is just looking for a standard Ford ECU to plug in.

Regards,
Steve

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On Fri, 08-01-2016 13:48, SMIDG3T chris.j.brigh...@gmail.com 
wrote:
My step-dad owns his own business creating ECU's. Visit his site 
here: www.extraefi.co.uk or send him an email (which is on his site).


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Black Top Zetec Breathing

2016-03-05 Thread Jim Hearne 
Did you mean sump breather (i don't think there is one of those) into 
the crankcase breather.


There is just the one crankcase breather (this is just above the sump) 
on the Zetec-R and Zetec-E


The Zetec breather system has a connection from the crankcase (on the 
front of the block) via a one way valve into the inlet manifold that 
maintains a slight vacuum inside the crankcase.
There are oil drain passages in the block from the crankcase to the head 
so the crankcase and rocker cover are directly connected effectively.
The rocker cover has a vent pipe that goes off to the air filter, the 
engine will normally have a slight vacuum inside the crankcase and will 
be sucking a small amount of air in via this pipe.


If you remove the connection into the inlet manifold like a lot of 
people do then you will have some pressure in the crankcase (from 
combustion fumes getting past the rings) instead of a small vacuum.
This will tend to blow out some oil along with the crankcase fumes and 
need a catch tank as been mentioned.
With the standard system this oil just gets sucked into the engine and 
burnt.


Jim




On 05/03/2016 14:53, Steve Kodź wrote:
Anyone see issues if I was to connect the sump breather into the 
crankcase breather?


Regards,
Steve
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Black Top Zetec Breathing

2016-03-05 Thread Matthew Wastell 
I might be thick, but I don't remember   A sump breather, only crankcase. 
(Pressed steel thing on the exhaust side). Got a pic?

So long as you have one end of the system plumbed in to the air intake it 
should be fine. I'd put some kind of oil catch in the path too personally 
though. 

M



> On 5 Mar 2016, at 14:53, Steve Kodź  wrote:
> 
> Anyone see issues if I was to connect the sump breather into the crankcase 
> breather?
> 
> Regards,
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Black Top Zetec Breathing

2016-03-05 Thread Matthew Wastell 
Personally I wouldn't directly vent to atmosphere as may get oil residue around 
the vent, even those aftermarket tanks - I've often noticed oil residue (maybe 
only on turbos though). On 'my' turbo Zetec I ran the breathers through a small 
air compressor line catch tank thingy and it caught every drop - I was actually 
surprised that it worked so well.

Question is - why do you want to join them anyway?

M

On 5 Mar 2016, at 20:01, Steve Kod? 
> wrote:


Thanks Ian.

I was having computer issues in the garage so wasn't able to properly research. 
 Now I've sat down with a beer seen that as you've said the original thought 
would build pressure, so need to add a vent to atmosphere into the system.

Need a couple more bits then hopefully this will be a TKC mag feature .

Regards,
Steve
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On 5 March 2016 5:33:40 pm Ian Harrison 
> wrote:

As long as you are venting to atmosphere somewhere so you don't build pressure, 
I'd have thought you'd be ok.

Through the cam breather?

On Saturday, 5 March 2016, Steve Kod? 
> wrote:
Anyone see issues if I was to connect the sump breather into the crankcase 
breather?

Regards,
Steve
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Black Top Zetec Breathing

2016-03-05 Thread Steve Kodź 

Thanks Ian.

I was having computer issues in the garage so wasn't able to properly 
research.  Now I've sat down with a beer seen that as you've said the 
original thought would build pressure, so need to add a vent to atmosphere 
into the system.


Need a couple more bits then hopefully this will be a TKC mag feature .

Regards,
Steve
--
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quantumowners.co.uk



On 5 March 2016 5:33:40 pm Ian Harrison  wrote:


As long as you are venting to atmosphere somewhere so you don't build
pressure, I'd have thought you'd be ok.

Through the cam breather?

On Saturday, 5 March 2016, Steve Kodź  wrote:


Anyone see issues if I was to connect the sump breather into the crankcase
breather?

Regards,
Steve
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quantumowners.co.uk


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Black Top Zetec Breathing

2016-03-05 Thread Ian Harrison 
As long as you are venting to atmosphere somewhere so you don't build
pressure, I'd have thought you'd be ok.

Through the cam breather?

On Saturday, 5 March 2016, Steve Kodź  wrote:

> Anyone see issues if I was to connect the sump breather into the crankcase
> breather?
>
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> Steve
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> quantumowners.co.uk
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