Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor

2017-03-28 Thread Jim Hearne 
If the engine has a distributor it won’t have a crankshaft position sensor, 
they are only used on cars with distributorless ignition.
I’ve had random cutting out on a couple of 80’s Fords caused by rust on the 
ignition coil low voltage connections.
Ford used push on connectors onto the threaded steel plated studs, the studs 
rust and cause a poor connection.

Jim



From: 'Michael Hughes' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:53 AM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor
As I expect you have been told already the connection to the crankshaft 
position sensor  is also a potential trouble spot.

Michael



-Original Message-
From: Susan and Martin Scott 
To: quantumowners 
Sent: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 9:05
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor


Unless you can see anything obviouse (eg black 'tracking' or burn out contact 
on cap) it's probably the black unit on the side, in which case it's possibly 
cheaper (just as easy?) to get one of those and fit to the part you have.
Martin
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  From: QM editor 
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 11:12 PM
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor

  Thanks everyone, and specially Chris. I'm familiar with the spring clips and 
had not seen a pair of screws to hold the cap before - so mine with the screws 
must be Lucas. Are they completely interchangeable? There seem to be many types 
available on the usual websites but as soon as I try to specify the exact one I 
can't find one like that. 

  Does anyone know if they are all more or less the same and it doesn't matter 
which one you use, so long as it has the same fitting? Does a recon one come 
with an oil seal? Presumably a new one does? I have till the end of next month 
to get this car going, I don't want to go to Stoneleigh in my tin top Suzuki!

  Thanks again, Mike


  On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 11:02:56 AM UTC, QM editor wrote: 
My 2+2 has a 1.6 CVH engine from an XR2. Intermittently it will stop and 
usually start again running normally. A bit annoying! I've been told by a Ford 
trained mechanic that the distributor in the Fiesta was unreliable and there 
were many failures even in cars less than three years old. Does anyone know of 
this? From one website I discovered that the correct distributor is a Bosch 
type 0 237 521 019 but I can't find one of those. The Haines manual says Bosch 
or Lucas but gives no part number.. Nearest I found was type 0 237 601 001, 
Ford part number 84SF 12100 FA. 

Has anyone had a distributor problem with this engine, and what type did 
they use to replace it? It might be that the two types I've mentioned are 
effectively identical or there might be sufficient difference that while the 
one I can find will physically fit it won't work properly or even at all! 
Advice please so I can get going again!

Many thanks, Mike
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor

2017-03-28 Thread russell 

I've had a similar fault on my saloon with the car cutting out twice when 
pulling away at a roundabout. The first time I accidentally fixed it when 
making sure 
everything was tight, no fuel leaks etc, the second time I realised it was the 
ignition lead from coil to distributor had pulled out slightly due to the lead 
being a little 
short and a bit of movement in the engine mountings. In true DIY fashion it 
hasn't been fixed as now I know what it is and just push it back in.

Regards, Russell 

> Message Received: Mar 28 2017, 10:55 AM
> From: "'Michael Hughes' via Quantum Owners Group" 
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor
> 
> The fault might simply be that the lead into the top of the distributor cap 
> is working itself loose. Using a company car I had the embarrassing experience
> of calling the company workshop staff out on a 30 mile return trip at 10.30 
> p.m. as I was returning from a meeting in the Midlands. The engine had cut 
> out and I 
had coasted to a halt at a dangerous point where the road passed an airfield.
> 
> 
> The fitter arrived sometime around 11.15 p.m. opened the bonnet, pushed down 
> on the lead in the socket on the top of the distributor and said, 'Now try 
> it', it 
started and ran faultlessly all the way back to the Ford Research and 
Engineering Centre where the car, and I, were based.
> 
> 
> As I expect you have been told already the connection to the crankshaft 
> position sensor is also a potential trouble spot.
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Susan and Martin Scott 
> To: quantumowners 
> Sent: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 9:05
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor
> 
> 
> 
> Unless you can see anything obviouse (eg black 'tracking' or burn out contact 
> on cap) it's probably the black unit on the side, in which case it's possibly 
> cheaper 
(just as easy?) to get one of those and fit to the part you have.
> Martin
> 
> - Original Message - 
> 
> From: QM editor 
> 
> To: Quantum Owners Group 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 11:12 PM
> 
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks everyone, and specially Chris. I'm familiar with the spring clips and 
> had not seen a pair of screws to hold the cap before - so mine with the 
> screws 
must be Lucas. Are they completely interchangeable? There seem to be many types 
available on the usual websites but as soon as I try to specify the exact 
one I can't find one like that. 
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone know if they are all more or less the same and it doesn't matter 
> which one you use, so long as it has the same fitting? Does a recon one come 
with an oil seal? Presumably a new one does? I have till the end of next month 
to get this car going, I don't want to go to Stoneleigh in my tin top Suzuki!
> 
> Thanks again, Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 11:02:56 AM UTC, QM editor wrote: 
> 
> My 2+2 has a 1.6 CVH engine from an XR2. Intermittently it will stop and 
> usually start again running normally. A bit annoying! I've been told by a 
> Ford 
trained mechanic that the distributor in the Fiesta was unreliable and there 
were many failures even in cars less than three years old. Does anyone know of 
this? From one website I discovered that the correct distributor is a Bosch 
type 0 237 521 019 but I can't find one of those. The Haines manual says Bosch 
or Lucas but gives no part number.. Nearest I found was type 0 237 601 001, 
Ford part number 84SF 12100 FA. 
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone had a distributor problem with this engine, and what type did they 
> use to replace it? It might be that the two types I've mentioned are 
effectively identical or there might be sufficient difference that while the 
one I can find will physically fit it won't work properly or even at all! 
Advice please so I 
can get going again!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Many thanks, Mike
> 
> 
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor

2017-03-28 Thread 'Michael Hughes' via Quantum Owners Group 
The fault might simply be that the lead into the top of the distributor cap is 
working itself loose.  Using a company car I had the embarrassing experience
of calling the company workshop staff out on a 30 mile return trip at 10.30 
p.m. as I was returning from a meeting in the Midlands. The engine had cut out 
and I had coasted to a halt at a dangerous point where the road passed an 
airfield.


The fitter arrived sometime around 11.15 p.m. opened the bonnet, pushed down on 
the lead in the socket on the top of the distributor and said, 'Now try it', it 
started and ran faultlessly all the way back to the Ford Research and 
Engineering Centre where the car, and I, were based.


As I expect you have been told already the connection to the crankshaft 
position sensor  is also a potential trouble spot.


Michael



-Original Message-
From: Susan and Martin Scott 
To: quantumowners 
Sent: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 9:05
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 distributor



Unless you can see anything obviouse (eg black 'tracking' or burn out contact 
on cap) it's probably the black unit on the side, in which case it's possibly 
cheaper (just as easy?) to get one of those and fit to the part you have.
Martin
  
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From:   QM editor 
  
To: Quantum Owners Group 
  
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 11:12   PM
  
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2   distributor
  


  
Thanks everyone, and specially Chris. I'm familiar with the   spring clips and 
had not seen a pair of screws to hold the cap before - so   mine with the 
screws must be Lucas. Are they completely interchangeable? There   seem to be 
many types available on the usual websites but as soon as I try to   specify 
the exact one I can't find one like that.  


  
Does anyone know if they are all more or less the same and it doesn't   matter 
which one you use, so long as it has the same fitting? Does a recon one   come 
with an oil seal? Presumably a new one does? I have till the end of next   
month to get this car going, I don't want to go to Stoneleigh in my tin top   
Suzuki!

Thanks again, Mike
  


On Saturday, March 25, 2017 at 11:02:56 AM UTC, QM editor wrote:  

My 2+2 has a 1.6 CVH engine from an XR2. Intermittently it will stop and 
usually start again running normally. A bit annoying! I've been told by a 
Ford trained mechanic that the distributor in the Fiesta was unreliable and 
there were many failures even in cars less than three years old. Does 
anyone know of this? From one website I discovered that the correct 
distributor is a Bosch type 0 237 521 019 but I can't find one of those. 
The Haines manual says Bosch or Lucas but gives no part number.. Nearest I 
found was type 0 237 601 001, Ford part number 84SF 12100 FA.



Has anyone had a distributor problem with this engine, and what type did 
they use to replace it? It might be that the two types I've mentioned are 
effectively identical or there might be sufficient difference that while 
the one I can find will physically fit it won't work properly or even at 
all! Advice please so I can get going again!




Many thanks, Mike


  
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