RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

2018-09-03 Thread andyheaton64 
Just trawling my memory bank as Q001 is a prototype. 
Is there any remarks I have written in the build manual from Lady Q about mods 
to the pedal box?
Does there happen to be any history that Rob at qoc can put his hands on or do 
you have a copy of the file ?
Where pressure has been put on the clutch, the Fulcrum arm to the gearbox 
release bearing isn't fractured is it? 
I am just wondering whether the pedal box needs moving away from the bulk head 
to give more clearance? Or would that have the opposite effect ?
Does the gear linkage need adjusting ?
Did both clutches look the same ?
I will trawl through the history files and see if I can find any info for you 
Chris 
P.s I can pop over Sunday afternoon when i finish work if your about ?
Regards Andy 



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 Original message From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners 
Group  Date: 03/09/2018  22:27  (GMT+00:00) To: 
quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed 
with a 2+2 clutch problem 
I bought/fitted a complete 3 part Valeo clutch kit. I have to admit I am close 
to taking thee engine/gearbox out again to investigate further. I may refit the 
old clutch kit to see if there is similar free movement. From: 
quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 22:11
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem That's 
a good question, that I don't know the answer to as I've got the pedal but 
haven't got around to fitting it! Did you buy your cluitch as a complete kit? 
It could be a mismatch on parts as Jim has alluded to.My clutch has a 
disengagement problem (having worked ok for some 20k miles) - I suspect the the 
'fingers' on the clutch plate have lost their strength. We had the same problem 
20 years ago on Ford Escort, and replacing the complete clutch cured it. We 
also had the same problem on a Fiat Grande Punto we bought from new, after only 
8k milesand it was replaced under warranty. Other clutches have lasted in 
excess of 100k miles. Anyway, on my Q I replaced the quadrant with a larger 
(55mm?) diameter one and then a new cable - I then looked at what was happening 
at the clutch lever end, and it became clear the quadrant or cable couldn't be 
the issue because when the pedal was fully depressed the clutch arm was only 
about 2mm from hitting the gearbox casing. I'll have to get around to changing 
the clutch, but must get the body painting finished (weather 
permitting).Martin- Original Message - From: 'Chris Fairlie' via 
Quantum Owners Group To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 
03, 2018 8:15 PMSubject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch 
problem Thanks Chris.  After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some 
sound deadening material from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. 
So I managed to get the pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on 
the bench, but wasn’t in the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 
88AB7L353AA made in 1995 so someone changed it out well after the car was 
built. Sill cannot understand why it won’t work now. Martin This is an 
interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific quadrant? 
Regards Chris  From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem Hi 
Chris,The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280It is possible to 
use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012Martin Scott- 
Original Message - From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group To: 
quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PMSubject: 
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem I’m pretty sure 
the recommended quadrant colour was white. Chris G From: 'Chris Fairlie' via 
Quantum Owners Group Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PMTo: 
quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed 
with a 2+2 clutch problem Thanks Jim Just had a look and there was a flattened 
vertical lin in the carpet behind the pedal, I removed the carpet and sound 
deadening behind it. I managed to lift the pedal and pull the cable out fully, 
but cannot get the pawl to engage with the quadrant.  Looks like I need to take 
the pedal box out to investigate further. Wasn’t there a recommendation to 
replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different one, perhaps Escort. I think there 
was a specific coloured Ford item, but I can’t remember the details. Chris 
From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with

Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

2018-09-03 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
Good question, ISTR that the clutch arm appeared to be against the bearing with 
cable etc connected, but if I grasped it I could move it the other way manually.
Martin
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 9:41 PM
  Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem


  Another question, is it normal that the clutch release arm has 25mm of free 
movement before the thrust bearing touches the back of the splines?

   

  From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
  Sent: 03 September 2018 20:16
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

   

  Thanks Chris. 

   

  After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening 
material from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to 
get the pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but 
wasn’t in the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 
1995 so someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot 
understand why it won’t work now.

   

  Martin

   

  This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

   

  Regards

   

  Chris 

   

  From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
  Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

   

  Hi Chris,

  The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

  It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

  Martin Scott

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind 
the pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to 
lift the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage 
with the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a 
different one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, 
but I can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person 
(this releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as 
it will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the 
ratchet reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced 
as a set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had 
too much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far 
enough for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

   

  I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather 
high and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. 
I bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

   

  I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my 
issues. Wrong!

   

  Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. 
The bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable 
and the quadrant is untouched.  

   

  Any ideas please?

   

  Thanks 

   

  Chris Fairlie

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

2018-09-03 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
That's a good question, that I don't know the answer to as I've got the pedal 
but haven't got around to fitting it! Did you buy your cluitch as a complete 
kit? It could be a mismatch on parts as Jim has alluded to.
My clutch has a disengagement problem (having worked ok for some 20k miles) - I 
suspect the the 'fingers' on the clutch plate have lost their strength. We had 
the same problem 20 years ago on Ford Escort, and replacing the complete clutch 
cured it. We also had the same problem on a Fiat Grande Punto we bought from 
new, after only 8k milesand it was replaced under warranty. Other clutches have 
lasted in excess of 100k miles. Anyway, on my Q I replaced the quadrant with a 
larger (55mm?) diameter one and then a new cable - I then looked at what was 
happening at the clutch lever end, and it became clear the quadrant or cable 
couldn't be the issue because when the pedal was fully depressed the clutch arm 
was only about 2mm from hitting the gearbox casing. I'll have to get around to 
changing the clutch, but must get the body painting finished (weather 
permitting).
Martin
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 8:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem


  Thanks Chris. 

   

  After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening 
material from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to 
get the pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but 
wasn’t in the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 
1995 so someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot 
understand why it won’t work now.

   

  Martin

   

  This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

   

  Regards

   

  Chris 

   

  From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
  Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

   

  Hi Chris,

  The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

  It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

  Martin Scott

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind 
the pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to 
lift the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage 
with the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a 
different one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, 
but I can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person 
(this releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as 
it will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the 
ratchet reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced 
as a set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had 
too much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far 
enough for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

   

  I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather 
high and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. 
I bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked

RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

2018-09-03 Thread 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
Another question, is it normal that the clutch release arm has 25mm of free 
movement before the thrust bearing touches the back of the splines?

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 03 September 2018 20:16
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Chris. 

 

After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening material 
from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to get the 
pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but wasn’t in 
the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 1995 so 
someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot understand why 
it won’t work now.

 

Martin

 

This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

 

Regards

 

Chris 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

Martin Scott

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

2018-09-03 Thread 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
Thanks Chris. 

 

After Jim’s post I removed a layer of carpet and some sound deadening material 
from behind the clutch pedal. That made no difference. So I managed to get the 
pedal box out tonight and the quadrant works fine on the bench, but wasn’t in 
the car. Is it a white 50mm quadrant part number 88AB7L353AA made in 1995 so 
someone changed it out well after the car was built. Sill cannot understand why 
it won’t work now.

 

Martin

 

This is an interesting thought, does the manual adjust pedal need a specific 
quadrant?

 

Regards

 

Chris 

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Susan and Martin Scott
Sent: 03 September 2018 16:28
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Hi Chris,

The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280

It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012

Martin Scott

- Original Message - 

From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
  

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

 

Chris G

 

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  

Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM

To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

2018-09-03 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
Hi Chris,
The complete clutch kit I used was part FINIS #5024280
It is possible to use a manual adjust clutch off an Escort part #1029012
Martin Scott
  - Original Message - 
  From: chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2018 3:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem


  I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

  Chris G

  From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

  Thanks Jim

   

  Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind 
the pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to 
lift the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage 
with the quadrant. 

   

  Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

   

  Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

   

  Chris

   

  From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Jim Hearne
  Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

   

  Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
  Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person 
(this releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as 
it will go in the engine bay.
  Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

  You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as 
a set it should be ok.

  I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

  Jim

  On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

 

I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather 
high and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. 
I bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

 

I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my 
issues. Wrong!

 

Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

 

Any ideas please?

 

Thanks 

 

Chris Fairlie

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

2018-09-03 Thread chris.quant via Quantum Owners Group 
I’m pretty sure the recommended quadrant colour was white.

Chris G

From: 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2018 9:44 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

Thanks Jim

 

Just had a look and there was a flattened vertical lin in the carpet behind the 
pedal, I removed the carpet and sound deadening behind it. I managed to lift 
the pedal and pull the cable out fully, but cannot get the pawl to engage with 
the quadrant. 

 

Looks like I need to take the pedal box out to investigate further.

 

Wasn’t there a recommendation to replace the Fiesta quadrant with a different 
one, perhaps Escort. I think there was a specific coloured Ford item, but I 
can’t remember the details.

 

Chris

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 02 September 2018 21:11
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Help needed with a 2+2 clutch problem

 

Did you reset the ratchet on the quadrant after you fitted the new clutch ?
Lift the pedal up against it's stop with a bit of wood or a second person (this 
releases the ratchet) and then pull the clutch cable inner out as far as it 
will go in the engine bay.
Release the pedal and then press it a few times, you should hear the ratchet 
reset.

You can't mix low lift and normal lift clutch parts but since you replaced as a 
set it should be ok.

I remember an issue with clutch ratchet not working correctly if you had too 
much carpet behind the pedal which meant it couldn't be pressed down far enough 
for the ratchet to be triggered.

Jim

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 7:49:05 PM UTC+1, Chris Fairlie wrote:

   

  I thought I had an issue with my 2+2 clutch as the bite point was rather high 
and it would start to slip as soon as I started to press the clutch pedal. I 
bit the bullet and took the engine out only to fine the clutch plate wasn’t 
very worn, but it looks like someone has been riding the clutch as the splines 
are badly scored by the thrust bearing and some blueing.  Not sure it is 
relevant, but the old clutch was a Motorcraft unit with the friction plate 
marked ‘Low Lift’ and a white quadrant adjuster fitted.

   

  I fitted brand new 3 part Valeo clutch kit hoping this would solve my issues. 
Wrong!

   

  Now the clutch cannot be fully disengaged so I cannot get it into gear. The 
bite point is about 10mm off the floor. I am using the same clutch cable and 
the quadrant is untouched.  

   

  Any ideas please?

   

  Thanks 

   

  Chris Fairlie

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