Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars
Thanks for the ideas keep them coming please! I need to resolve this (as it's a pain to drive when it happens). Strangely on last year's trip to Stoneleigh it was ok for the first 45 minutes when most of the time stuck at 10mph in (unusually heavy for Norwich) traffic with the temp gauge hovering near red - it was only once I was moving faster (and temp gauge dropped) that it gave the issue. It doesn't seem to have any set pattern, other than on the way to Stoneleigh, but not on the way home! Martin Scott - Original Message - From: 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group To: Quantum Owners Group Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Hi If you still have the large 'pancake' filter, it could be vapour lock on the fuel line as it is quite a nice little heat trap. I have changed to an K filter, but I also wrapped the rubber hose in alumunium tape which seemed to help. Best regards James T Q2-002 www.bostin.photography -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars
Hi If you still have the large 'pancake' filter, it could be vapour lock on the fuel line as it is quite a nice little heat trap. I have changed to an K filter, but I also wrapped the rubber hose in alumunium tape which seemed to help. Best regards James T Q2-002 www.bostin.photography > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars
If it’s intermittent then it’s not very easy to test. You could remove the module from the distributor, clean and check the connections where it plugs into the distributor. The other thing you could try is to run the engine and warm up the module with a hot air gun as they usually fail when they get hot. Don’t get it too hot though, should be ok up to around 120oC Jim From: Susan and Martin Scott Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:10 AM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Ah -good thinking jim. Is there a way of testing the module? I'll have to investigate more. Regards, Martin - Original Message - From: Jim Hearne To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Hi Martin, If you got a shock from pulling off the shut off valve connection then that was because of the back emf voltage generated in the coil of the solenoid (basically the same principle as the igniton coil works on) when you removed the power. If you got a shock just jiggling it then it suggests there is a poor contact to the solenoid. I have had very intermittent cutting out caused by rust on the low voltage ignition coil terminals, especially if you still have the original rubber push on terminals instead of ring tags. But, failure of those ignition modules is quite common as well. Jim From: Susan and Martin Scott Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:44 PM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Thanks for that James. I'll keep your note in my "Quantum file" of emails. I think that's what I have (I'll have a look at the distributor) - I don't have an ECU (which was fitted to the earlier ones - I thought these were called EDIS, but I'm confident Jim has more knowledge). My first 'check item' will be the coil. When the car was running badly when I arrived at Stoneleigh, and seemed like fuel starvation, I checked the wire to the fuel shut off valve and received an HT 'jolt' of it, suggesting there was an internal short from HT to LT. Martin Scott - Original Message - From: Jim Hearne To: 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Thats the amplifier module from the later Mk2 Fiestas. I think (maybe not) that Martin is after the ecu from the earlier MK2, they don't use a amplifier on the distributor, it's inside the ECU Jim On 23/01/2019 21:58, 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group wrote: Hi again Martin I found this post from March 17 which was a copy from Nov 13... Wonders of the internet :) Hi I posted this back in Nov 2013 (glad the search facility works!). It may help with the ignition modules. Finally found the code for the ignition module - the pattern code is XEI9 (Xray, Echo, Indigo, Niner), a quick search shows several other codes - FORD 6153380, ROVER NJQ10001. FORD 6 153 380 FORD 6153380 FORD 84SF 12K05 7AA FORD 84SF 12K05 9AA FORD 84SF-12K057-AA FORD 84SF-12K059-AA LAND ROVER ERR5210 LAND ROVER STC1184 ROVER CDU4175 ROVER ERR 5210 I hope this helps. Best regards James T Q2-002 www.bostin.photography On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:54:23 UTC, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: Hi James, just out of curiosity was that the Ford EDIS module (rectangular box on earlier mr2 XR2?) Martin Scott -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars
Ah -good thinking jim. Is there a way of testing the module? I'll have to investigate more. Regards, Martin - Original Message - From: Jim Hearne To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Hi Martin, If you got a shock from pulling off the shut off valve connection then that was because of the back emf voltage generated in the coil of the solenoid (basically the same principle as the igniton coil works on) when you removed the power. If you got a shock just jiggling it then it suggests there is a poor contact to the solenoid. I have had very intermittent cutting out caused by rust on the low voltage ignition coil terminals, especially if you still have the original rubber push on terminals instead of ring tags. But, failure of those ignition modules is quite common as well. Jim From: Susan and Martin Scott Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:44 PM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Thanks for that James. I'll keep your note in my "Quantum file" of emails. I think that's what I have (I'll have a look at the distributor) - I don't have an ECU (which was fitted to the earlier ones - I thought these were called EDIS, but I'm confident Jim has more knowledge). My first 'check item' will be the coil. When the car was running badly when I arrived at Stoneleigh, and seemed like fuel starvation, I checked the wire to the fuel shut off valve and received an HT 'jolt' of it, suggesting there was an internal short from HT to LT. Martin Scott - Original Message - From: Jim Hearne To: 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Thats the amplifier module from the later Mk2 Fiestas. I think (maybe not) that Martin is after the ecu from the earlier MK2, they don't use a amplifier on the distributor, it's inside the ECU Jim On 23/01/2019 21:58, 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group wrote: Hi again Martin I found this post from March 17 which was a copy from Nov 13... Wonders of the internet :) Hi I posted this back in Nov 2013 (glad the search facility works!). It may help with the ignition modules. Finally found the code for the ignition module - the pattern code is XEI9 (Xray, Echo, Indigo, Niner), a quick search shows several other codes - FORD 6153380, ROVER NJQ10001. FORD 6 153 380 FORD 6153380 FORD 84SF 12K05 7AA FORD 84SF 12K05 9AA FORD 84SF-12K057-AA FORD 84SF-12K059-AA LAND ROVER ERR5210 LAND ROVER STC1184 ROVER CDU4175 ROVER ERR 5210 I hope this helps. Best regards James T Q2-002 www.bostin.photography On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:54:23 UTC, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: Hi James, just out of curiosity was that the Ford EDIS module (rectangular box on earlier mr2 XR2?) Martin Scott -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en
Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars
Hi Martin, If you got a shock from pulling off the shut off valve connection then that was because of the back emf voltage generated in the coil of the solenoid (basically the same principle as the igniton coil works on) when you removed the power. If you got a shock just jiggling it then it suggests there is a poor contact to the solenoid. I have had very intermittent cutting out caused by rust on the low voltage ignition coil terminals, especially if you still have the original rubber push on terminals instead of ring tags. But, failure of those ignition modules is quite common as well. Jim From: Susan and Martin Scott Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:44 PM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Thanks for that James. I'll keep your note in my "Quantum file" of emails. I think that's what I have (I'll have a look at the distributor) - I don't have an ECU (which was fitted to the earlier ones - I thought these were called EDIS, but I'm confident Jim has more knowledge). My first 'check item' will be the coil. When the car was running badly when I arrived at Stoneleigh, and seemed like fuel starvation, I checked the wire to the fuel shut off valve and received an HT 'jolt' of it, suggesting there was an internal short from HT to LT. Martin Scott - Original Message - From: Jim Hearne To: 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars Thats the amplifier module from the later Mk2 Fiestas. I think (maybe not) that Martin is after the ecu from the earlier MK2, they don't use a amplifier on the distributor, it's inside the ECU Jim On 23/01/2019 21:58, 'Jamest142' via Quantum Owners Group wrote: Hi again Martin I found this post from March 17 which was a copy from Nov 13... Wonders of the internet :) Hi I posted this back in Nov 2013 (glad the search facility works!). It may help with the ignition modules. Finally found the code for the ignition module - the pattern code is XEI9 (Xray, Echo, Indigo, Niner), a quick search shows several other codes - FORD 6153380, ROVER NJQ10001. FORD 6 153 380 FORD 6153380 FORD 84SF 12K05 7AA FORD 84SF 12K05 9AA FORD 84SF-12K057-AA FORD 84SF-12K059-AA LAND ROVER ERR5210 LAND ROVER STC1184 ROVER CDU4175 ROVER ERR 5210 I hope this helps. Best regards James T Q2-002 www.bostin.photography On Tuesday, 22 January 2019 19:54:23 UTC, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: Hi James, just out of curiosity was that the Ford EDIS module (rectangular box on earlier mr2 XR2?) Martin Scott -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions
