[Quantum Owners] Re: Young driver interested in kit cars
> > Hi Martin > I'm probably wading in here a bit late... I had a 2+2 for a while and have just bought a H4. I was desperate to get my hands on any sort of classic car with a soft top and honestly I don't think there is anything out there that even comes close to touching a quantum in terms of value for money, nothing. You can get a sort of ok Mini or Morris Minor for about 4k, a good MK1 mx5 will cost you at least 3k these days, its a no brainer in my opinion. The biggest plus is also the biggest negative - that they're hand built. So everyone is different and each have their own quirks, but the plus side is that they are generally very easy to work on. If it helps - my experience is as follows: 1) First Quantum was a Yellow 2+2 based on a 1984 XR2. Paid £2100, from what I now know is a dodgy dodgy car salesman. Looked immaculate, but wasnt. Ended up rewiring, replacing carb, manifold, rear suspension, completely replacing pop up headlights, new dashboard, new choke, new tie rods and a rack replacement. All of these I did with no experience using a Haynes manual and google. But the biggest challenge was indeed finding parts. I did find you can get creative and substitute various bits and pieces but ended up paying over £1800 to get it up to scratch. 2) Second was a H4 bought about 6 weeks ago. Paid £1200. Mechanically sound but needs lots of adjusting and updating including a complete interior replacement. But drives fine, although needs new rear shocks. Leaks like a sieve. But a unique targa convertible that'll hit 60 in under 10 seconds for £1200 and looks totally unique??! fahgeddabout it!! I guess the point is that no two are the same - but they're quite straightforward to work on and I've found the forum absolutely invaluable for support. Within a week of joining somebody hand drew a complete wiring diagram for the headlights and emailed it over to me. And they are nearly always cheap to repair; my steering rack for the 2+2 was something like £18 new! And the dashboard was about £20 from ebay. Its all part of the fun! People have recently really switched on to classic fords and you'd be surprised how many parts there are out there. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
It's certainly strange - still looking on the bright side, at least they seem to fail in the open mode, rather than the closed! Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Forum" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Club" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
- Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Forum" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott wrote: I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. Martin - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" To: "Quantum Owners Club" Cc: "Derek Clews" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Thanks All, As thermostats are very basic engineering I wonder what the failure is? Possibly just poor quality material in the manufacture? I did boil up the old one in a pan in the classic way and checked its movement. It did move fully but at a lower temperature than it should, it was not seized or stuck open all the time. I notice the Coupe one is getting a bit lazy now..! Derek > On 26 Jan 2019, at 23:34, Susan and Martin Scott > wrote: > > I've had similar experience with genuine Ford thermostats and pattern ones. > Quinton Hazell parts are a lottery now it seems, as QH went into liquidation > several years ago and (as I understand it) the various 'sectors' were sold to > the highest bidders, so the brand means very little now. Also in the belief > that QH was a quality item (it used to be) I bought some track control arms > for the Rickman (Escort mk2 parts) One lasted about 2k miles until the rubber > bush was kaput (I replaced that part) and then the ball joint had excessive > play (it really was bad!) in a further 1.5k miles, so just 3.5k total miles! > In contrast the other side (which I 'bought' attached to the car) had play > (but a lot less) and had done over 40 miles in my ownership, so maybe many > more. I replaced with 'First Line' parts, which were the only ones available > to me - we'll see how they last. The guy at my MOTstation said it's not > uncommon for new parts to fail very quickly. > Martin > > > > - Original Message - From: "Derek Clews" > To: "Quantum Owners Club" > Cc: "Derek Clews" > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 10:11 AM > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat > > > Dear All, > > Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the > previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just > opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. > Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my > previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH > engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with > another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On > Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your > experience they last longer? > > On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does > push you to renew the coolant! > > Derek > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" > basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in > the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged > to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this > or related message(s). > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" > basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in > the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged > to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this > or related message(s). > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are
RE: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Same overhere. During freezing winter I put a piece of cardboard in front. Hans -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: "Jim Hearne" Verzonden: 27-1-2019 10:29 Aan: "quantumowners@googlegroups.com" Onderwerp: Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat Yes, i found the same thing, CVH's seem to get through thermostats for some reason. As one stage i was replacing them about once a year. Genuine Ford of pattern parts, didn't seem to make a difference. Jim On 26/01/2019 10:11, Derek Clews wrote: > Dear All, > > Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the > previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just > opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. > Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From > my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford > CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced > with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK > brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, > is it your experience they last longer? > > On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does > push you to renew the coolant! > > Derek > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] Thermostat
Yes, i found the same thing, CVH's seem to get through thermostats for some reason. As one stage i was replacing them about once a year. Genuine Ford of pattern parts, didn't seem to make a difference. Jim On 26/01/2019 10:11, Derek Clews wrote: Dear All, Just replaced my engine coolant thermostat on the 2+2 and noticed the previous one was only in the car for 16,000 miles. (but 6 years) It just opened at a cooler and cooler temperature until I felt I needed to change it. Of course the new one is fine and helps the car warm up much quicker. From my previous experience thermostats seem to be a short lived item in the Ford CVH engines compared to others. This was a Q one (QTH105K) and replaced with another I already had on the shelf. I had thought they were an OK brand. On Amazon someone is selling a ‘Ford’ item. If it is genuine Ford, is it your experience they last longer? On the other hand if you need to replace the thermostat frequently it does push you to renew the coolant! Derek -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
