[Quantum Owners] Re: Engine problems/radiator

[Tom]

just a thought but did you clean out the holes for the head bolts well
as if there is water of any debris in them then the head bolts bottom
out and the head gasket goes again.

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[Quantum Owners] Xtreme Window Wipers

[Tom]

hi, i'm building an Xtreme at the moment and i'm sure i've seen other
Xtremes around with chrome or stainless steel wipers on instead of the
sierra ones and was just wondering if anyone knew where to get them
from? thanks. Tom.

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Re: [Quantum Owners] rear brake

[tom]

I have the rear discs as well, and in combo with the HiSpec monster kit on the 
front feel that the braking is improved. I don't have a vacuum assist on mine, 
so it's fairly heavy, but the pedal feel is good.
The only negative I can give is that I find the rear discs chirp as they go 
round.


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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] rear brake

I agree, it is pretty much for aesthetics, but I disagree that rear disks will 
lessen the breaking performance. 
No, you don't need to change the rear axel. There are other ways to do it (a 
quick google will tell you more) but I have fiesta centre conversion plates, 
these require mk3 fiesta solid front disks, Granada callipers, escort handbrake 
cable (iirc) and standard mk2 fiesta drums turned down to fit inside the new 
disks.
Problem I have found is finding the rear callipers in good condition, they all 
seem heavily pitted on the handbrake pivot. This allows leaking. I have however 
found a company which can supply a replacement (big redd eBay), but I would 
advise buying professionally refurbished ones unless you are competent in such 
matters. For information, I have left the brake bias as standard and I don't 
get any locking up of the rear and the mot guy is more than happy.
I will add at this point that I don't drive particularly hard and have not done 
track days so more research may be necessary if hard braking etc is going to be 
the norm.
Most people report the larger mondeo servo has made far more positive 
difference than anything.
Hope this is of some help.

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> On 11 Jun 2014, at 20:00, "Susan and Martin Scott" 
>  wrote:
> 
> No you are correct - Absolute waste of time/effort/money, and will probably 
> end up with an inferior braking system (certainly on the handbrake).
> If you have a rear engined car, and are using it on the track, then maybe
> Kish - It will probably affect (adversely) that new insurance you have as 
> well.
> Martin
>  
>  
> - Original Message -
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> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 5:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] rear brake
> 
> I am sure I have heard people who have done this say it is not worth the 
> effort as there is not a lot of weight at the back end, unless it is purely 
> an aesthetic requirement. Come on somebody back me up or am I losing my mind?
> 
> Russell
>> On 11/06/2014 16:40, Kish Patel wrote:
>> hi all
>> 
>> can any one help ?
>> 
>> want to put disk brakes on the rear of my 2+2 (presently has drum ones)
>> do I need to replace axel etc. ??
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Re: [Quantum Owners] rear brake

[tom]

Handbrake is actually much better - and why would it effect insurance??

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No you are correct - Absolute waste of time/effort/money, and will probably end 
up with an inferior braking system (certainly on the handbrake).
If you have a rear engined car, and are using it on the track, then maybe
Kish - It will probably affect (adversely) that new insurance you have as well.
Martin


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  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] rear brake


  I am sure I have heard people who have done this say it is not worth the 
effort as there is not a lot of weight at the back end, unless it is purely an 
aesthetic requirement. Come on somebody back me up or am I losing my mind?

  Russell

  On 11/06/2014 16:40, Kish Patel wrote:

hi all


can any one help ?


want to put disk brakes on the rear of my 2+2 (presently has drum ones)
do I need to replace axel etc. ??
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Re: [Quantum Owners] power streeing on 2+2

[tom]

Sounds interesting.  I've got the Corsa column for mine. 

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] power streeing on 2+2

 just put power steering in my quantum 2+2 

 
used a Hyundai Amica steering rack
with an Astra mk5 electric pump 
if any one interested in doing this project please contact me on
kish :  07851577384
email: *kish@mabltd* 
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion

[TOM WALKER]

re:swirl pots
On my diesel SEAT I have a fuel filter / swirl pot.  As a service
item, it costs £13 and as far as I can tell has the required ins and
outs.  Is there any reason this couldn't be used as a swirl pot for a
petrol injection setup?

Tom

On 8 June 2011 09:47, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> I hope you have a fuel filter on the inlet to the HP fuel pump, especially
> if the tank is a bit rusty.
>
> Jim
>
>
> From: Mark Miles
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 9:27 AM
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion
> I have an external swirl pot, the problem I have is finding somewhere to fit
> it. It is quite large, probably about 2 litres capacity and I have a very
> limited amount of space to fit it. So far on this conversion I have run into
> the following problems:
> Wrong ECU- the one that came with the engine was a PATS ecu with no key. -
> Additional cost £50+postage on Ebay
> Brake upgrade  - ordered on ebay, still hasn't shown up despite only being 9
> miles away. 10 days and counting.
> Fuel lines - Having fitted a pump near the fuel tank I find on powering it
> up that the original fuel lines were ok for suction on the old engine
> mounted fuel pump but with positive pressure they leaked just about
> everywhere. Extra cost (though probably a good investment) £25 for new fuel
> line.
> High pressure fuel pump. Once the fuel lines were sorted and we got fuel to
> the new pump we find that it leaks fuel from the housing. Still waiting to
> hear back from the vendor.. Ebay again. Replacement cost £40 for a used saab
> part.
> I have also found that the fuel tank is quite rusty and appears to be
> seeping fuel. I am thinking about fitting a racing fuel cell instead of
> replacing the fiesta tank.
> Coolant hoses. I found that my local motor factors were less than helpful
> with trying to find hoses to fit. In the end some kind soul wrecked an
> escort GTI so my local scrappy provided me with hoses that work. I don't
> know if they are a regular failure but 11 suitably engined cars in the yard
> had all had the bottom rad hose removed and two others were holed.
> Everything is now done except the brake upgrade, Hopefully she will roar
> tonight once the fuel pump is fitted.
> Mark
>
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>
> 
> From: hansdefauwes 
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 7 June, 2011 23:46:34
> Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion
>
> Over here a 1.4 injection tank only costs 84 euro  excl. shipping. - 79
> pounds
> In the Uk - ebay they are about 135 pounds incl shipping in the UK.
>
> I spoke with the owner.
> If we order several he was willing to give QSC owners a good price . . .
> We even could get them zink plated.
>
> I know that Rolf (saloon & 2+2), 1 for my 2+2 and an other Dutch 2+2 are
> interested.
>
> Could be interesting for UK QSC owners - I will visit Eddy late summer  . .
> .
>
> Hans
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Matthew Wastell
> To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Cc: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Zetec conversion
>
> Demon tweaks sell external swirl pots. They were around £100 iirc. Money
> well spent compared to messing with a tank IMHO.
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
> On 1 Jun 2011, at 09:10, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:
>
> I found my Zetec saloon exhaust a bit too noisy with just one large silencer
> at the rear of the system (though it is a stainless Magnex system), and
> acquired a 4-2-1 downpipe with a small silencer on it where the cat would be
> which will hopefully help.
>
>
>
> Was the old engine (a 1.4 CVH wasnt't it) fuel injected ?
>
> If not then there won't be a lift pump in the tank.
>
> If you try running the high pressure pump directly from the fuel tank you
> will suffer fuel starvation on corners and roundabouts when the fuel level
> gets below half a tank or so.
>
>
>
> You either need to change the tank for an injection one with an internal
> swirl pot or fit an external swirl pot with a low pressure feed pump and a
> high pressure fuel pump.
>
> If you feed the fuel return from the engine back into the swirl pot then it
> won't matter that the high pressure pump is a lot higher flow than the low
> pressure pump.
>
> There is a school of thought though that it's better to feed the engine
> return into the fuel tank to keep the fuel cooler as you aren't recycling
> the excess fuel between the engine

Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble

[TOM WALKER]

Make sure it's a fairly big resistor and you can get the heat out of there -
39ohms will pull about 4watts.



On 29 June 2011 16:45, Mark Miles  wrote:

>   To get around that issue with your charge circuit you just need to
> connect a 39ohm resistor in parallel with the charge warning led. That will
> approximate the resistance of the bulb (about 38ohms). You should then find
> that the alternator gets sufficient seed voltage to operate as it would with
> the bulb but will retain the functionality of the charge warning light.
>
> *Mark Miles*
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> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Wed, 29 June, 2011 16:13:07
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>
> Agreed, i wouldn't leave it permanently connected.
> It would be better to connect it to an ignition circuit if you have to.
>
> I've always found that even without the warning light connected there is
> enough residual magnetism in the alternator for it to self excite about
> about 3000rpm and then work fine after that.
> My 2+2 does that because i changed the warning light to an LED but it's not
> really a problem.
>
> Maybe not the case on a brand new alternator though.
>
> Jim
>
>
>  *From:* Mark Miles 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:05 PM
> *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>
>  Good point.. I would still use caution. Also leaving it connected when
> the alternator is not turning causes the coils to heat up as well as being a
> constant drain on the battery. On a new alternator the heating is unlikely
> to do any damage but on a well used one it could accelerate failure.
>
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> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Wed, 29 June, 2011 15:40:12
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>
> I was worried about that as well initially.
> But, the alternator must be outputting the battery voltage on that pin when
> it's running to put the alternator warning light out.
> There can't be any volts dropped across the bulb or the bulb would glow.
>
> Jim
>
>
>  *From:* Mark Miles 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:34 PM
> *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>
>  I would be a little concerned at connecting the alternator to the +side
> of the battery. The seed current for the alternator starts as 12v BUT the
> bulb acts as a resistor which drops the voltage to a much lower value. My
> concern would be damaging the exciter coils in the alternator.
>
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> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
> *Sent:* Wed, 29 June, 2011 8:30:43
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>
> Bit of a giveaway, that...
>
> Apropos of which: a common complaint on our Fiat forum: "I've replaced
> the dash lights with LEDs and now it won't charge..."
>
> Neil
>
> On Jun 28, 10:17 pm, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> > He did say the wire wasn't connected...
> >
> > Jim
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[Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance

[Tom Walker]

Does anybody know the full/empty resistances of the XR2 fuel level sender?

After 5 years of collecting dust, I'm finally playing around with changing
my dials.

 

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance

[TOM WALKER]

Thanks for that Martin - looks like I will be converting that like Jim is.
My VDO expects 10ohm empty and 180ohm full.

Jim - I would be very interested in getting some litre by litre values as
that was going to be my next step too (although I was going to do a couple
of litres at a time).



On 30 June 2011 22:42, Susan and Martin Scott <
susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:

> **
> Hi Tom
>
> Empty 247.5 - 253 Ohms
> Full 18.4 - 19.7 Ohms
>
> Hope that helps, Martin
>
>  - Original Message -
> *From:* Tom Walker 
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:17 PM
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>
>  Does anybody know the full/empty resistances of the XR2 fuel level
> sender?
>
> After 5 years of collecting dust, I’m finally playing around with changing
> my dials.
>
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> Tom
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance

[TOM WALKER]

Due to filling my diesel tin-top to the brim with unleaded (DOH!) I have 50
litres of unleaded in the garage, so if I get a minute over this weekend I
will do the measurement.
A quiet day at work this morning means I have designed the circuit - I've
even put in some feedback which allows me to squash and pull the curve if
the ohms/litre is not a linear scale.

btw.  a 2011 Passat CC diesel will actually run on unleaded - but not very
nicely (I got it 9 miles home).  It smelt very bad and got awfully hot.
Good job I only have to keep my company cars for 6 months - some poor soul
will buy that off a VW forecourt as "nearly new".

On 1 July 2011 11:23, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> **
> Sounds similar to mine, needs inverting for a start.
>
> I need to round up enough jerry cans to fill with fuel to fill the tank.
> I had though of doing it on the car in a petrol station at a quiet time but
> they might get a bit funny about that i guess.
>
> Or, i could just use water and try and factor in the difference in the
> sender resistance caused by the water, about 20 ohms on the empty reading.
>
> Hmm, another project to do.
>
> Jim
>
>  *From:* TOM WALKER 
> *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2011 9:29 AM
>  *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>
>   Thanks for that Martin - looks like I will be converting that like Jim
> is.  My VDO expects 10ohm empty and 180ohm full.
>
> Jim - I would be very interested in getting some litre by litre values as
> that was going to be my next step too (although I was going to do a couple
> of litres at a time).
>
>
>
> On 30 June 2011 22:42, Susan and Martin Scott <
> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hi Tom
>>
>> Empty 247.5 - 253 Ohms
>> Full 18.4 - 19.7 Ohms
>>
>> Hope that helps, Martin
>>
>>  - Original Message -
>> *From:* Tom Walker 
>> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:17 PM
>> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>>
>>  Does anybody know the full/empty resistances of the XR2 fuel level
>> sender?
>>
>> After 5 years of collecting dust, I’m finally playing around with changing
>> my dials.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance

[TOM WALKER]

Ohms of the tank sender from 19 (full) to 250 (empty)
This gives a linear voltage at the top of R5 (simple voltage divider) - and
the circuit inverts and offsets this to the red curve at the output of the
opamp.  My fuel gauge (VDO Vision) is actually current driven (hence
expecting a specific resistance) and I found that at 180ohm the voltage was
about 4V - again, this would need trimming for a specific instrument.
Choice of opamp is fairly important as you need a R-R output capability or
it simple levels off at the empty end and you would never display empty on
the gauge.

On 6 July 2011 14:01, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> **
> Hi Tom,
> Thanks for that.
> On the qauge plot graph, what is tank value ?, it's from 0 to 250
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
>  *From:* TOM WALKER 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:39 AM
>   *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>
> I did it analogue.  I've attached a couple of PDFs showing the cct and the
> output plot (do attachments work on this group?).  I will need to tweak the
> resistor values once I've done my measurements.  I didn't get a chance this
> weekend as I spent all weekend pulling the dashboard out of my SEAT to get
> at the air-con evaporator, only to discover that the expansion valve is on
> the engine side of the bulkhead.  Bloomin thing still doesn't work and has
> foxed the "expert" from Jack-Frost too.  Anyway...
>
> The diodes and resistors in the box at the bottom are for bending the curve
> if the requirement is non linear and can be removed - although they effect
> the gain so R2, R6 and R7 would need to be changed to compensate.
> Some caps should be added on feedback to give a low pass as well - but the
> basic concept is there.
>
> On 1 July 2011 12:09, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Oops.
>>
>> Have you done circuit with a micro or purely analog ?
>> Could i have a look at the circuit, just out of curiosity, i've done mine
>> with a PIC micro but then i'm much happier with digital rather than analog
>> electronics.
>> You are probably right about not needing every litre, probably every 5
>> would be fine but it's always nice having more data than you need.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>  *From:* TOM WALKER 
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2011 11:36 AM
>>   *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>>
>> Due to filling my diesel tin-top to the brim with unleaded (DOH!) I have
>> 50 litres of unleaded in the garage, so if I get a minute over this weekend
>> I will do the measurement.
>> A quiet day at work this morning means I have designed the circuit - I've
>> even put in some feedback which allows me to squash and pull the curve if
>> the ohms/litre is not a linear scale.
>>
>> btw.  a 2011 Passat CC diesel will actually run on unleaded - but not very
>> nicely (I got it 9 miles home).  It smelt very bad and got awfully hot.
>> Good job I only have to keep my company cars for 6 months - some poor soul
>> will buy that off a VW forecourt as "nearly new".
>>
>> On 1 July 2011 11:23, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Sounds similar to mine, needs inverting for a start.
>>>
>>> I need to round up enough jerry cans to fill with fuel to fill the tank.
>>> I had though of doing it on the car in a petrol station at a quiet time
>>> but they might get a bit funny about that i guess.
>>>
>>> Or, i could just use water and try and factor in the difference in the
>>> sender resistance caused by the water, about 20 ohms on the empty reading.
>>>
>>> Hmm, another project to do.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>  *From:* TOM WALKER 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2011 9:29 AM
>>>  *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>>>
>>>   Thanks for that Martin - looks like I will be converting that like Jim
>>> is.  My VDO expects 10ohm empty and 180ohm full.
>>>
>>> Jim - I would be very interested in getting some litre by litre values as
>>> that was going to be my next step too (although I was going to do a couple
>>> of litres at a time).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 June 2011 22:42, Susan and Martin Scott <
>>> susanandmar...@corringham99.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>> Hi Tom
>>>>
>>>> Empty 247.5 - 253 Ohms
>>>> Full 18.4 - 19.7 Ohms
>>

Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance

[TOM WALKER]

That's what I'm hoping to compensate for with the fudging resistors.  I'll
know more when I do the measuring.



On 6 July 2011 14:17, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> **
> Doh, sorry, should have guessed that.
> So, you've not taken into account that the tank isn't the same shape all
> the way up ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
>  *From:* TOM WALKER 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:10 PM
>   *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>
> Ohms of the tank sender from 19 (full) to 250 (empty)
> This gives a linear voltage at the top of R5 (simple voltage divider) - and
> the circuit inverts and offsets this to the red curve at the output of the
> opamp.  My fuel gauge (VDO Vision) is actually current driven (hence
> expecting a specific resistance) and I found that at 180ohm the voltage was
> about 4V - again, this would need trimming for a specific instrument.
> Choice of opamp is fairly important as you need a R-R output capability or
> it simple levels off at the empty end and you would never display empty on
> the gauge.
>
> On 6 July 2011 14:01, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>> **
>> Hi Tom,
>> Thanks for that.
>> On the qauge plot graph, what is tank value ?, it's from 0 to 250
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>  *From:* TOM WALKER 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:39 AM
>>   *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>>
>> I did it analogue.  I've attached a couple of PDFs showing the cct and the
>> output plot (do attachments work on this group?).  I will need to tweak the
>> resistor values once I've done my measurements.  I didn't get a chance this
>> weekend as I spent all weekend pulling the dashboard out of my SEAT to get
>> at the air-con evaporator, only to discover that the expansion valve is on
>> the engine side of the bulkhead.  Bloomin thing still doesn't work and has
>> foxed the "expert" from Jack-Frost too.  Anyway...
>>
>> The diodes and resistors in the box at the bottom are for bending the
>> curve if the requirement is non linear and can be removed - although they
>> effect the gain so R2, R6 and R7 would need to be changed to compensate.
>> Some caps should be added on feedback to give a low pass as well - but the
>> basic concept is there.
>>
>> On 1 July 2011 12:09, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Oops.
>>>
>>> Have you done circuit with a micro or purely analog ?
>>> Could i have a look at the circuit, just out of curiosity, i've done mine
>>> with a PIC micro but then i'm much happier with digital rather than analog
>>> electronics.
>>> You are probably right about not needing every litre, probably every 5
>>> would be fine but it's always nice having more data than you need.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* TOM WALKER 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 01, 2011 11:36 AM
>>>   *To:* quantumown...@googlegroups..com 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel resistance
>>>
>>> Due to filling my diesel tin-top to the brim with unleaded (DOH!) I have
>>> 50 litres of unleaded in the garage, so if I get a minute over this weekend
>>> I will do the measurement.
>>> A quiet day at work this morning means I have designed the circuit - I've
>>> even put in some feedback which allows me to squash and pull the curve if
>>> the ohms/litre is not a linear scale.
>>>
>>> btw.  a 2011 Passat CC diesel will actually run on unleaded - but not
>>> very nicely (I got it 9 miles home).  It smelt very bad and got awfully
>>> hot.  Good job I only have to keep my company cars for 6 months - some poor
>>> soul will buy that off a VW forecourt as "nearly new".
>>>
>>> On 1 July 2011 11:23, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>> Sounds similar to mine, needs inverting for a start.
>>>>
>>>> I need to round up enough jerry cans to fill with fuel to fill the tank.
>>>> I had though of doing it on the car in a petrol station at a quiet time
>>>> but they might get a bit funny about that i guess.
>>>>
>>>> Or, i could just use water and try and factor in the difference in the
>>>> sender resistance caused by the water, about 20 ohms on the empty reading.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, another project to do.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>

Re: [Quantum Owners] Quantum selling prices.

[TOM WALKER]

It amuses me when there are that many spelling & grammar mistakes in a
listing and then they say "but i am a perfectionist".

Car looks reasonably tidy on the outside (apart from the rubber glove
hanging from the indicator).

On 26 July 2011 08:57, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> **
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190558354877
>
> Ah, thats why most Quantums don't sell for much, we aren't putting black
> tape on the fog lights !
>
> [image: Winking smile emoticon]
>
> Jim
>
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[Quantum Owners] Old magazines

[Tom Walker]

I'm having a clear-out and have unearthed a few old copies of Quantum
Mechanics, which will go in the recycling unless somebody out there wants
them.
I've got issues 20 (July 1996) through to 35, 40, then 42 through to 49
which brings us up to September 2004.

I'll give it a couple of days, but for the price of the postage they're up
for grabs.

Cheers,
Tom

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Old magazines

[Tom Walker]

You are the first - pm me with your address and I'll work out the postage.

Tom dot bloke at virgin.net


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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of jin
Sent: 15 January 2012 16:39
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Old magazines

id love them if nobody has got in before me?

On Jan 15, 4:23 pm, "Tom Walker"  wrote:
> I'm having a clear-out and have unearthed a few old copies of Quantum
> Mechanics, which will go in the recycling unless somebody out there wants
> them.
> I've got issues 20 (July 1996) through to 35, 40, then 42 through to 49
> which brings us up to September 2004.
>
> I'll give it a couple of days, but for the price of the postage they're up
> for grabs.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom

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RE: [Quantum Owners] dashboard for 2+2

[Tom Walker]

Every winter I remove my dashboard to replace it with a home-made job,
including all the VDO dials and switches I've acquired over the last 10
years.  Then every Easter I put it back in again and say "next year" to
myself.  I've even got myself a spare iPad now to do nav and media.

 

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: 26 February 2012 22:45
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] dashboard for 2+2

 

Has anyone removed the Fiesta dashboard on a 2+2 and replaced it with a flat
one, similar to Jaguar, Lotus, Triumph Stag, Cobra, etc? I think the cockpit
might look nicer with Smiths instruments and 'proper' switches.

Mike

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Instrument Cluster wanted

[TOM WALKER]

They are actually quite easy to service.  Mine was doing exactly this, so
it came apart and went back together again after a bit of a clean and
re-lubricate.  I remember having to put in some washers to keep the tension
on the odometer, and it was quite fiddly, but it did work in the end (after
2 or 3 efforts).
The bonus is that while apart you can set the odometer to something more
suitable - I reset mine to 0, so now after ~15 years of motoring I've done
just over 4500.
Alternatively, you could just disconnect the odometer, but I'm not sure
what the legalities of this are.

On 19 March 2012 10:12, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> Which car have you got ?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On 18/03/2012 22:53, judder wrote:
>
>> My Speedo has developed a fault in which the needle bounces about and
>> makes a loud clicking noise. I think it is related to the odometer not
>> turning. Does anyone have one for sale ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen
>>
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Instrument Cluster wanted

[TOM WALKER]

It's exactly the problem I had.  It was a while ago now, so I can't
remember the details, but it did involve fully dismantling the odo down to
component parts and reassembling with a washer at one end.  I think it was
one of the drums catching on the bracket and so the washer was to space it
back out.  Probably because over the years of heat cycling and a bit of
abrasive wear there's just that bit too much slop in it.



On 19 March 2012 21:52, judder  wrote:

> It's a 2+2 on an F plate. I't quite frustrating, as I've nearly got it to
> work - can get the disc to turn by hand a few turns then it goes tight,
> causing the click and bounce.
>
> Stephen
>
> On Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:53:09 PM UTC, judder wrote:
>>
>> My Speedo has developed a fault in which the needle bounces about and
>> makes a loud clicking noise. I think it is related to the odometer not
>> turning. Does anyone have one for sale ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen
>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Stainless Steel Fuel tanks

[TOM WALKER]

I'd be interested if the price is sensible.  Swirl pot is a must, and as
for the fuel sender, if it could accept the VDO sender that would be great.



On 21 March 2012 13:42, Derek Clews  wrote:

> Thanks Bill,
>
> I'll put you on the list.
>
> Derek
>
>  On 20 Mar 2012, at 20:50, Bill Jackson wrote:
>
>   Hi Derek, as, since the weekend, the proud owner of 2 Q'san H4 and
> a saloon...definitely interested in a stainless tank for the saloon, with
> built in swirl pot please, as I want to upgrade to an EFi engine when the
> time comes...either a CVH or Zetec...undecided as yet.
> Bill Jackson
>
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> *To:* Quantum Owners Club 
> *Sent:* Monday, 19 March 2012, 17:27
> *Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Stainless Steel Fuel tanks
>
> Dear All,
>
> I am still researching the stainless steel fuel tank fabrication.  The
> local guys can definitely make them and I need to provide an old tank as a
> pattern then they can be done within a couple of weeks.  I can do that but
> wanted to tap the club collective brain for info.  We have a 2+2 & a Coupe
> Mark 2.  I have only played with the 2+2 tank so far.  It has a standard
> XR2 1989 type fuel tank.  I assume the coupe tank is the same (i.e. a
> standard Fiesta XR2 tank)  Is it?  I know that some of the other fiesta
> tanks look the same initially but have the connections in different places
> so are not interchangeable.
>
> Also I assume that a built in swirl-pot would be welcomed by all
> regardless of the engine in your car. Is that so?
>
> Anyone got experience with a suitable after market fuel contents sender?
> I think mine has died and this is a good time to fit a new one.
>
> I will try and get some price info in a few weeks but I do know that they
> will be cheaper in larger numbers.  Eddie may want a few but if you are
> interested say this year please think about it and maybe we can put in a
> decent size order to everyone's advantage.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Insurance time

[TOM WALKER]

I insured with FJ this year for £156 - and I'm not a member of the club.
Go figure??



On 12 June 2012 12:15, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> Actually, £246.98 is the FJ club price this year, it's gone up a lot.
> I've not renewed mine with yet as getting quotes from other places.
> I'll try your place, like you, i don't need any of the extras that FJ
> include.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>
> -Original Message- From: reckless_b
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:11 PM
> To: Quantum Owners Group
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Insurance time
>
>
> Hi folks, its insurance renewal time again and as usual FJ's quote
> does not take into account membership, coming in at £246.98.
> I gave the insurerers of my rickman a call before commiting myself to
> FJ again, lucky I did really as there quote was £90, fully comp but
> without all the extras that FJ include, although I haven't used any of
> the extras in the last 5 years I've also set a milage of 5000 but I
> only use the car six months anyway.
> If anyone is interested the company I used was   2gether financial
> phone 01945 465508.
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[Quantum Owners] Squeaky discs

[TOM WALKER]

Last summer I finally did the full rear-disc conversion using the Fiesta
Centre kit and clappers from a Ford Grandad.
All works fine, as in the car passed the MOT and slows down when I press
the middle pedal.
However, they squeak when no brake pressure is applied - like a
chirp-chirp-chirp at roadspeed which is very noticable with the roof down
when passing a wall or other structure which reflects the sound back.  If I
apply a click or two of handbrake, or just ride the brake gently then the
chirping stops, but obviously this isn't a particularly efficient way of
getting about.
Any ideas as to what to do?  I'm guessing I need to take up some slack
somewhere with a spring or something, but I'm not sure where to start.
Maybe it's something that will go away eventually as the discs bed in
better (only 200 miles this year - thanks British Summer)?

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Squeaky discs

[TOM WALKER]

The kit always felt a bit too expensive, so I spent ages contemplating
making by own brackets.  Eventually though, lazyness prevailed.  It's not
bad, in that you get nicely machined brackets, wheel bearings, modified hub
and a handbrake cable.
I got some calipers off ebay (actually ended up with 3 pairs due to some
rather over zealous bidding).  Cleaned them up and installed a full service
kit, new seals and all that.
Actually installing them was surprisingly easy, probably about an hour a
side - plus the same again for making up the brake hoses with lots of bends.

The kit doesn't come with any fixings, but rumaging through the parts bins
at work rustled up a good selection.

I can't say they've made a significant difference to stopping power - I was
hoping they would help balance the front (HiSpec 330mm) to rear ratio and
reduce the required foot pressure.  I don't have a vacuum assist, but have
a twin master adjustable brake box instead.
My reason for change was 80% cosmetic and 19% "why not?" and 1% for
practical technical reasons.




On 9 July 2012 11:14, Matthew Wastell  wrote:

>  I can't offer any real advise except to think the pads are dragging on
> the discs.
>
> However I am really interested to know the overall outcome, costs and if
> the kit is still available.
>
> I've never been overly happy with the brakes and I think overall feel will
> be better with rear discs even if stopping power does not change so much
> (certainly changing other rear drummed vehicles has made a noticeable
> difference)
>
> Good luck
>
>
> On 9 Jul 2012, at 11:08, TOM WALKER  wrote:
>
>Last summer I finally did the full rear-disc conversion using the
> Fiesta Centre kit and clappers from a Ford Grandad.
> All works fine, as in the car passed the MOT and slows down when I press
> the middle pedal.
> However, they squeak when no brake pressure is applied - like a
> chirp-chirp-chirp at roadspeed which is very noticable with the roof down
> when passing a wall or other structure which reflects the sound back.  If I
> apply a click or two of handbrake, or just ride the brake gently then the
> chirping stops, but obviously this isn't a particularly efficient way of
> getting about.
> Any ideas as to what to do?  I'm guessing I need to take up some slack
> somewhere with a spring or something, but I'm not sure where to start.
> Maybe it's something that will go away eventually as the discs bed in
> better (only 200 miles this year - thanks British Summer)?
>
>
>
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[Quantum Owners] Re: Fwd: Hello friend.

[TOM WALKER]

I guess your job is going well. I just wanted to tell you to a superb
job opp in locality.
We have had many of our members take this opportunity & I have heard
some perfect stories.

The local newspaper has an article featuring one of our clients, Kelly
Richards. It will also give you all the important information you need
to get started.
The article is at http://oakridgeunited.org/deviceargue/Colin_Cook71/
and I guess the story will be featured on the homepage until tomorrow.

Fond regards,

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RE: [Quantum Owners] Fuel gauge & sender

[Tom Walker]

Isn't the fiesta tank a side mounted sender?


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On Behalf Of Derek Clews
Sent: 05 August 2012 19:19
To: Quantum Owners Club
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel gauge & sender

I have a solution this time, not a  question.

I found a sender on ETB gauges that covers the 260 to 20 Ohms range.  It
goes well with the ETB gauge of course, but it will drive the Fiesta Mk2
gauge.  It gives a full max & min although it is not linear in between.
That means the gauge indicates lower that the actual tank contents for much
of the range with a quick fall initially.  So it's on the safe side.  But
it's great to have a working gauge again that will keep me out of trouble
and the price is right at £20.  Better than ebay for an old Mk 2 sender.

http://etbinstruments.com/Sensors_ancillaries.htm

Derek

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Question For The Electronics Whizzkids

[TOM WALKER]

I used a pair of 555 timers to create pulses for my central locking
depending on the status of the alarm.  It sounds like you are trying to do
the opposite to get a steady-state, which you could do with a bi-stable (JK
flip-flop).  You don't really need a relay to power an LED, they only need
a few mA - just do it direct from a transistor output.  It is possible to
get bistable relays, but they're not cheap and it's a bit hammer to nut for
what you need.
With either solution (relay or JK) you run the risk of getting out of sync
where you end up with the flashing LED flashing when the alarm is off and
not when it's on.  Have you thought about just connecting it up so it's
always on?  If you mount it out of line of sight when driving it wouldn't
be a problem??
I'm curious as to whether Jim's solution would work (if I understood him
correctly), because the switched ignition line when off isn't actually a
return path (gnd) it's more just a lack of voltage.  There may be enough
leakage current to go between 12V and the switched ignition to ignite an
LED but it's not a "circuit".



On 3 September 2012 23:06, Andy Cowley (Q2-379)
wrote:

> Cheers Jim.
>
> Forgot to mention that it's an aftermarket central locking kit, not a Ford
> one.
>
> Also what I was wondering was, is there a relay that could have a
> permanent live feed going into it and connections from the central locking
> wiring, so that when the momentary signal is sent from the control box it
> would switch the relay "on" or "off" & power would come from the relay to
> the LED or not depending on the position of the switch inside the relay.
>
> Hope this explains what it is I am trying to achieve but being a bear of
> simple brain I don't always make myself clear.
>
> If no such relay is available then I'll wire it in like you suggested.
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Monday, September 3, 2012 9:04:03 PM UTC+1, Andy Cowley (Q2-379) wrote:
>>
>> My 2+2 has central locking fitted (no alarm) & doesn't have a warning
>> LED.
>>
>> I've got a flashing LED that I was going to wire in so that it came on
>> when the ignition was switched off, but am wondering whether I could
>> connect it to the wiring via a switching relay so that it came on when the
>> car was locked & went off when it was unlocked.
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Andy
>>
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[Quantum Owners] Re: The QOC tour of Wales.

[H4 Tom]

Me and my girlfriend mite come down for the day to join all you, abit to 
expensive for us ( I have an engine upgrade to pay for) many H4's going?

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[Quantum Owners] Springs

[Tom Walker]

Sorry for another thread on springs.

I'm still after some replacement front springs, am I right in thinking MK1
and MK2 are the same?  And are the Diesel ones the same as the XR2?

 

T

 


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[Quantum Owners] Re: OT a bit: Photo driving license

[Tom Walker]

I heard about this on the radio recently, but to qualify Jim’s statement the
man from the DVLA stated that nobody has yet been fined for not updating
their license.

 

 

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Sent: 02 December 2008 12:37
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: OT a bit: Photo driving license

 

The expiry date is written on the front, Item 4b on mine, but thanks for
reminding me as I had totally forgotten.

 

Hamish

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] OT a bit: Photo driving license

 



Have you got a photo driving license ?
It seems they expire after 10 years (item 4b on the front is the expiry 
data) and lots of people are getting fined a £1000 for driving without a 
license this year as it's 10 years since they first came out.
 
Jim



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[Quantum Owners] Re: HID headlight kit

[Tom Walker]

I love typos like this (from further down that link)...

The pumps will suit customers who traditionally have used the small
rectangular-type, but have found them either too noisy or too reliable.

Too reliable??



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Subject: [Quantum Owners] HID headlight kit


Interseting article in Totalkitcar on line news section today about
HID headlight kits. May be of interest, especially for us that still
have original XR2 lights.

http://www.totalkitcar.com/news.php

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[Quantum Owners] Re: HID headlight kit

[Tom Walker]

Rather than painting the pods - why not line them with tin-foil and see what
the beam pattern does.  If it's messed up, take it out - if it's better,
make it permanent.

w.r.t HID lamps, all the cars I've had with HID lamps have also had
auto-levelling, which I assume is a requirement to stop Joe-public from
setting them too high.


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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: HID headlight kit


If you want to save some pennies then I found that 80/100watt bulbs make all
the difference.  Technically cannot be used on any car before 1987 I think,
however we gave them a good test having friends drive in front at different
distances and also oncoming and no one said they were any brighter than a
regular modern car and certainly not dazzling.

I think the saloon lights might be closer to the edge of the bonnet, so less
tunnel vision effect.

I did wonder what the effect of painting the inside of the pods with some
reflective paint would be, but thought it might mess up the beam patterns -
anyone else considered it?

Matthew



 

> -Original Message-
> From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Woodward
> Sent: 11 January 2009 11:37
> To: Quantum Owners Group
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: HID headlight kit
> 
> Found this kit on EBay for £68 delivered. Item no. 
> 190279422025 If anybody fits a kit I would be interested in 
> the results as the dipped beam on the 2+2 is rubbish, but  
> curiously slightly better on the Saloon.
> John
> 
> On 10 Jan, 14:49, "Robert Craig"  wrote:
> > Well spotted. Although as kit car drivers we don't like 
> things to be 
> > too reliable - we like having to fix things.
> >
> >  LOL
> >
> > Bob Craig (Q2-267)
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Tom Walker" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:50 AM
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: HID headlight kit
> >
> > I love typos like this (from further down that link)...
> >
> > The pumps will suit customers who traditionally have used the small 
> > rectangular-type, but have found them either too noisy or 
> too reliable.
> >
> > Too reliable??
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> > [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Bob Craig
> > Sent: 09 January 2009 20:05
> > To: Quantum Owners Group
> > Subject: [Quantum Owners] HID headlight kit
> >
> > Interseting article in Totalkitcar on line news section today about 
> > HID headlight kits. May be of interest, especially for us 
> that still 
> > have original XR2 lights.
> >
> > http://www.totalkitcar.com/news.php
> >
> > Bob Craig (Q2-267)- Hide quoted text -
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[Quantum Owners] Re: HID headlight kit

[Tom Walker]

It's for when you load your boot with a few too many bodies and your lights
are pointing skywards.

My Vectra with HID had a little pot on the rear suspension and when you
first turned the lights on they would go through an initialisation sequence
where they went all the way to the bottom then came back up again to the
correct level.  Whether this was necessary or just done cos it looked cool,
I don't know.
My Alhambra with HID doesn't do it so visibly, and I haven't been underneath
it to see how it knows whether it is level - but most likely the same idea. 
I'll have to check how the Bentleys at work do it.

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: HID headlight kit


> [mailto:quantumown...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Walker

> w.r.t HID lamps, all the cars I've had with HID lamps have 
> also had auto-levelling, which I assume is a requirement to 
> stop Joe-public from setting them too high.

Now there is a good idea - I asked 3 or 4 people I know what a certain dial
on the dash board was (the headlight level dial) and they had no idea what
it was for or when to use it!

Matthew




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[Quantum Owners] Re: DCNF or DCOE

[Tom Walker]

I've got DCOE  40s on mine.

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_SAqJjZEhjRjWg6TyEAdLg?feat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/BOUyV8DI_QTPm4t2ph89uA?feat=directlink

 

 

They do fit, but it's a squeeze.  Quantum put on a special back rail on the
sub-frame for me, I used the shortest manifold I could find (using the
single piece gaskets rather than the 3 piece type) and I tilted the engine
forward 10mm.  Oh, and short trumpets too.

 

 

Tom

 

 

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On Behalf Of Russell Willcox
Sent: 21 February 2009 18:38
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: DCNF or DCOE

 

Mat,
DCNF's are downdraught and DCOE are sidedraught. This means that on the
DCNF the air filters are on the top where as the DCOE have the airfilters at
the back.
The DCNF's are better on the quantum for clearance reasons. Attached are
some pictures of the DCNF's on my car which I am probably going to be
selling shortly if you are interested.

Russell

Bash wrote: 

 
Hi all from a new member.
 
I have a 2+2 which is used dailey as my only car and have started to
modify.
 
So far it's just got a magnex full system and DFT carb with K&N but
now it's time for more.
 
A ported and polished head is on the way and I will be looking for a
nice cam to fill it.
 
The only problem is not knowing which way to go with carbs. Has anyone
on here fitted twin DCOE or DCNF setups as i'm not sure of clearances
and advantages for the two types. Any pics and comments would be
greatly appreciated.
 
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[Quantum Owners] Rear disk conversion brackets

[Tom Walker]

Hi All,
I'm having some brackets made up to allow Granada/Sierra rear disk calipers to be attached to the Fiesta hubs (as per the Fiesta-Centre kit).  If I only get a couple made they are about 70 quid each - however this goes down to 30 each for 10 (5 pairs).
So... would any of you kids be interested in clubbing together to get a few at the lower price?  The logic being that the FC kit cost 250 plus delivery, and essentially just consists of these brackets plus some machined hubs.  For me, if I can get the brackets for £60 it's more wife-friendly.
Tom
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[Quantum Owners] Re: Rear disk conversion brackets

[Tom Walker]

I don't know what technique they are using (I leave that decision up to the 
metal-monkeys) as I've just provided them with my igs file.  I got a quote from 
6 companies, ranging from about 70q ea up to a silly 220ea for 2 off, and 30 to 
something high when at 10off.  I even tried a bunch in China who weren't as 
cheap as their sales pitch would imply as they are obviously paying their child 
labour too much.


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Sent: 24 June 2009 15:22
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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: Rear disk conversion brackets


Are they being laser or waterjet cut ?
Still sounds a bit expensive for that, did you try more than one company ?

Jim


Tom Walker wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm having some brackets made up to allow Granada/Sierra rear disk 
> calipers to be attached to the Fiesta hubs (as per the Fiesta-Centre 
> kit).  If I only get a couple made they are about 70 quid each - 
> however this goes down to 30 each for 10 (5 pairs).
>
> So... would any of you kids be interested in clubbing together to get 
> a few at the lower price?  The logic being that the FC kit cost 250 
> plus delivery, and essentially just consists of these brackets plus 
> some machined hubs.  For me, if I can get the brackets for 60 it's 
> more wife-friendly.
>
> Tom
>
>
> >




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[Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Gearbox

[Tom Walker]

I got 9.1mpg in a Flying Spur on a blast across Germany last week.  You get 
very used to forecourts driving a Bentley.



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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Gearbox


I got 100mpg this weekend in mrs w's golf over 40 odd miles :-)  hard  
work but fun challenge!

Matthew

On 10 Aug 2009, at 07:50, Tony Pottrell  wrote:

> Although I'm "not a child of the 60's" I do the same with the Q and  
> the
> Focus.  Some fun facts to irk/annoy:
>
> The Focus and the Q have similar 1.8 Zetec engines.
>
> The Q will return 35/50 MPG, the Focus 30/32 MPG
> The Q will go from Stansted to Leeds and back on a tank, the Focus  
> needs
> a tank and a half (34L / 40L tanks respectively)
> The Q costs me 195 to tax for a year, the Focus 140
> The Q costs me 175 to insure for a year, the Focus 380.  Both with
> Footman James, with 10 years no claims
>
>
> barnacle wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> I know because I'm always curious about consumption, and I'm also a
>> Yorkshireman with short arms and deep pockets. The price of petrol
>> annoys me immensely even though in real terms it's cheaper now than  
>> in
>> the seventies - hell I can remember my father getting peeved when it
>> went up to three and sevenpence a gallon. I've never seen a reason  
>> why
>> a quickish car should necessarily be thirsty, and I always note the
>> consumption at each tank - mentally, not an actual note, though. I
>> *always* brim the tank and reset the odometer, and being a child of
>> the sixties I can do the necessary division in my head.
>>
>> The car consistently returns 36-38 on the commute which is from J8 M1
>> to London W12 - so half the distance on the motorway and half on  
>> urban
>> roads with all the stopping and starting that entails. On a longer
>> journey - round the M25/M2 or up to Yorkshire or Scotland, it returns
>> 45mpg. I rarely exceed 80mph, I rarely boot it, and I calibrate my
>> speedo with satnav units; it's within 2mph. I assume the odometer to
>> be correct since it indicates the same 46 miles to work as a Fiat
>> Coupe and a Seat Cupra.
>>
>> I do note that the original mileage claims for the xr2 were 45mpg at
>> 75mph...
>>
>> Being an official 'old fart' engineer, I consider a vehicle which  
>> will
>> not return 30mpg in general usage broken and in need of fixing! (Or
>> alternatively, not suitable for general use.)
>>
>> (For the record, the Fiat Coupe (2000cc N/A) does 31/32 on the work
>> run and 35 on a long motorway and has never been below 27 including a
>> top speed autobahn test and a 'how far can I legally go in an hour'
>> test. The Cupra (1.8 turbo, 180bhp) does 34 or so on the commute and
>> 35-39 on the cruise; it's very sensitive to the cruise control  
>> between
>> 75 and 80. It's also sensitive to how it's driven, of course.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> On Aug 4, 11:36 pm, michaelhughe...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> In a message dated 04/08/2009 18:31:45 GMT Daylight Time,
>>>
>>> nailed.barna...@gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> I get  45mpg cruising
>>> on the motorway at approximately legal  speeds.
>>>
>>> How do you know?
>>>
>>> I'm not being funny about this, especially since fuel economy is  
>>> now much
>>> more of an issue than it was when I started motoring when low 20's  
>>> fuel
>>> consumption was quite common in family cars.
>>>
>>> Detailed records of fuel purchases over a considerable time and  
>>> distance,
>>> or expensive metering systems, would seem to be needed to get  
>>> reasonably
>>> accurate results - at least so far as overall average economy is  
>>> concerned.
>>> Test  meters are the only means of comparing consumption in  
>>> various conditions
>>> and the  effect of variables like temperature, humidity, wind,  
>>> load, etc
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> BTW I hope no one out there thinks that to establish the range of  
>>> a vehicle
>>> all you have to do is to top it up and then drive it until the  
>>> fuel gauge
>>> shows  half empty - and then double the recorded miles.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> >



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Re: [Quantum Owners] Fun in the Snow.

[TOM WALKER]

I borrowed the 4.2 V8 Audi Q7 (talking of school-run 4x4s) to get home
Tuesday because I wouldn't have made it in my Cupra (240hp and front wheel
drive don't work on snow).
As a review, I have to say that the Q7 Quattro sysem is fairly poor -
although 4 wheel sideways drifting is good fun, and when it does get a bit
hairy you just have to lift off and let the electronics sort you out.  Turn
the radio off and listen to all the buzzing, clicking and rumbling of the
ESP and ABS - it's music to an engineer's ears.

2010/1/7 Jim Hearne 

> Too true.
>
> They should be asking all the school run 4x4 drivers why they weren't able
> to get there kids to school. (Apart from the fact all the schools were
> closed).
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Tony Vincent wrote:
>
>> That does sound fun.
>>
>> But to be fair, Jim, many 4x4 owners don't actually know how to engage 4x4
>> mode.
>>
>> Even if they get the right switch/gearlever, many forget to lock the
>> manual freewheeling hubs.
>>
>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: OT: Diesel EGR valve

[TOM WALKER]

Funnily enough it was actually running OK, albeit that it was very
occasionally dropping into limp-home mode.  Still getting 50mpg if I
tickled it.  I was getting an underpressure DTC, so I was expecting a
coked up turbo, but not this stuff in the inlet manifold.
Anybody got any ideas about "nasty chemicals" as I've soaked it in
petrol and attacked it with a toothbrush, but it would be nice to get
it really clean?


On 16 June 2010 09:48, Ian H (S3-023)  wrote:
> oo that's nasty - I had the one off my tcdi mondeo a few weeks
> back. 100,000 miles and it was pristine compared to that one but still
> in need of a clean.
>
> However, mine is knackered, there is wear on the shaft and so it
> sticks causing hiccups at around 2000 rpm.
>
> Ian
>
> On Jun 16, 9:08 am, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>> Nothing that some nice dangerous solvent wouldn't shift.
>> Except you probably can't buy nice dangerous solvent now and will have
>> to spend hours scrubbing it with something environmentally friendly.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On 16/06/2010 08:54, TomBloke wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I know it's a bit off-topic, but thought you fellow petrol-heads would
>> > be amused by the small build up of oily gunk in my tin-top's EGR
>> > valve...
>>
>> >http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/U0zcK2--P26McCuPNagplw?feat=di...
>>
>> > (did that link work?)
>>
>> > http://lh3.ggpht.com/_e5pTU0mLq88/
>> > TBfqazXEjdI/Fqg/ZVz9VjaLhbM/s144/IMG_2007.JPG" />> > tr>Fromhttp://picasaweb.google.co.uk/tw.bloke/
>> > 10_06_15AlhambraTurbo?feat=embedwebsite">10_06_15 Alhambra Turbo> > td>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: OT: Diesel EGR valve

[TOM WALKER]

Yes - and if it doesn't clean up, that's exactly what I will be doing.


On 16 June 2010 09:50, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> Isn't this something you can take off and bypass like you can on petrol
> engines ?
>
> Jim
>
>
> On 16/06/2010 09:48, Ian H (S3-023) wrote:
>>
>> oo that's nasty - I had the one off my tcdi mondeo a few weeks
>> back. 100,000 miles and it was pristine compared to that one but still
>> in need of a clean.
>>
>> However, mine is knackered, there is wear on the shaft and so it
>> sticks causing hiccups at around 2000 rpm.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Jun 16, 9:08 am, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Nothing that some nice dangerous solvent wouldn't shift.
>>> Except you probably can't buy nice dangerous solvent now and will have
>>> to spend hours scrubbing it with something environmentally friendly.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On 16/06/2010 08:54, TomBloke wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

 I know it's a bit off-topic, but thought you fellow petrol-heads would
 be amused by the small build up of oily gunk in my tin-top's EGR
 valve...

>>>
>>>

 http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/U0zcK2--P26McCuPNagplw?feat=di...

>>>
>>>

 (did that link work?)

>>>
>>>

 http://lh3.ggpht.com/_e5pTU0mLq88/
 TBfqazXEjdI/Fqg/ZVz9VjaLhbM/s144/IMG_2007.JPG" / tr>Fromhttp://picasaweb.google.co.uk/tw.bloke/
 10_06_15AlhambraTurbo?feat=embedwebsite">10_06_15 Alhambra Turbo>>> td>

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: OT: Diesel EGR valve

[TOM WALKER]

It's even easier than that as it is vacuum operated, so just two pipes
to pull off.  However, why cart around 2kg of stainless steel for no
reason?  If it gets bypassed, it's going in the bin.


On 16 June 2010 10:35,   wrote:
> After having had my Focus serviced I have twice been charged for a
> replacement wire to the EGR valve. If it is operated electrically can you
> just break the circuit rather than remove and by pass the valve?
>
> Michael
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RE: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternative 2+2

[Tom Walker]

I've got the Quaiffe (sp?) in mine.  Occasionally makes an odd squeaky noise
if you really boot it in a corner, and I can't say I suffer too much torque
steer, so maybe it does work.



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On Behalf Of Jim Wall
Sent: 07 January 2011 20:07
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternative 2+2

  Wrt. Torque Steer - has anybody tried a Quaiffe?  I've heard 
marvellous things, but mostly off their promotional material!

I used to find getting any power down on anything but dry roads very 
problematic with my old Vulcan 1.6 (on Pirelli P6000s which could also 
be the problem I guess) and once I get the 2.0 in I was thinking an LSD 
might solve that so I've looked at Quaifes on paper as well as a route 
that might deal with more power in the longer run (my aim is a normally 
aspirated 150 - 160 but I know I might be optimistic!).  If anyone has 
views I'd appreciate comment!



On 07/01/2011 15:03, Matthew Wastell wrote:
> It's really a shame there is no easy solution (especially with a zetec
which means the 8v stuff would not fit). Would make the car much more
drivable.
>
> I didn't have any problem with torque steer with the standard engines.
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2011, at 13:30, RichD  wrote:
>
>> The earlier Mk2 1.3 CVH cars also used the equal length drive shaft
>> setup, but as far as I can remember from my donor car it appeared to
>> be to give space for the extra front silencer, that the XR2 didn't
>> have. The inner Lobro joint on my donor was damaged, and even back in
>> 1994 when I built my car the joint was very difficult to find. I
>> eventually found one from a Mk1 Fiesta, possibly a supersport, but it
>> was later suggested that the Sierra joints were actually the same.
>>
>> I believe the joint between the fixed centre shaft and the diff
>> coupling used to fail, so I think Stourbridge Quantum used to weld the
>> shaft to the coupling. The bearing carrier also used to crack. My car
>> never suffered with torque steer, but that may be due to the useless
>> CVH, even the +1mm bored1.6 version I had in the end not having enough
>> power to cause it.
>>
>> I sold my car in 1998. According to DVLA it's still registered and on
>> the road. It was a dark BRG gel coat, with Rover 200 electric/heated
>> mirrors and fabric trimmed alloy door cappings (that Quantum took
>> moulds off for the ones they sold), and had when sold a mk2 hardtop
>> that I added extra rear quarter-light windows into. The chassis number
>> was '81 - anyone on here got it?
>>
>> Rich.
>>
>> On Jan 7, 8:34 am, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>>I don't find the torque steer a problem and my 2+2 has similar power
>>> to Matthews.
>>> The only real difference between our suspension setups is that mine is
>>> running equal length driveshafts.
>>> I think that helps a lot with torque steer compared to the usual one
>>> long and one short driveshaft.
>>>
>>> With the equal length system there is a intermediate driveshaft running
>>> across behind the engine with the CV joint on the end of that.
>>> Unfortunately there isn't an easy combination of bits that does this on
>>> a 2+2, i used a combination of a Puma intemediate driveshaft, a custom
>>> mounting bracket, Mk2 Fiesta driveshafts with Mk3 Fiesta joints and new
>>> circlip grooves cut into the shafts to mate the 2.
>>>
>>> On my Saloon with the Zetec engine i also fitted equal length shafts but
>>> as that was only a standard 1.8 Zetec i used the equal length driveshaft
>>> parts that came on the the early 1.4 CVH Mk2 Fiesta.
>>> They wouldn't take a lot of power i don't think though.
>>> For some reason they didn't use the equal length driveshafts on the
>>> XR2's and the 1.4 parts are rather rare.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> On 06/01/2011 23:05, jon jackson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Oh so I thought it was me cos sometimes I go to overtake and nearly
 hit the car I am overtaking as the 2+2 tries to go where it wants! My
 wife has used the Sprint on track days for years, however I will not
 let her use the Quantum due to its character, I do like it though and
 am amazed at how good it is as an all round car.
 Matthew you asked what I did in F1 and the answer is that  virtually
 all the bits I make are alloy on a CNC mill and I have no idea what
 they do or where they go, a couple of years ago I made lots of Red
 Bull stuff and when I saw the cars at Goodwood I could not see even
 one piece that I made, however they won and now I am making loads of
 bits for that German fella that has been champ many
 times..so perhaps he might again!
 I will have to improve my driving skills to get the best out of my 2+2.
 There are many idiots who own Civic type R's and that means that there
 are
 going to be loads of crashed ones.
 Rear engined Type R 2+2 RWD I think as it comes with a nice power
>>>

Re: [Quantum Owners] engine required!

[Tom Walker]

I will be swapping out my 2.0 ZVH (lots of mods) at some point, but probably 
not till next spring.  Is this in your timeframe?

--BB

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] engine required!

Hi,

Has anyone got a cvh engine they no longer want / need? Mine went bang last 
week. Ideally, I'd like to put in something with a bit more get up and go  than 
the existing 1.6 cvh I currently have, maybe a turbo or a bigger capacity cvh. 

Unfortunately, without performing major surgery on the engine frame, I think 
cvh is my only option.

Cheers,

Keith

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Re: [Quantum Owners] engine required!

[Tom Walker]

I had the top rail made thinner to cope with DCOEs but that is the only change.
Yes something more powerful and difficult is the plan...

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] engine required!

Cheers Jim
On 24 Jul 2013 20:03, "Jim Hearne"  wrote:

> The ZVH is a Zetec block with a CVH head.
>
> Have a look at www.quantums.info/zvh.htm
>
> It should fit pretty much anywhere a CVH does, it certainly fits in a 2+2
> CVH spaceframe.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> On 24/07/2013 19:52, Keith Joseph wrote:
>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> I've resigned myself to the fact that my car is going to be off the road
>> for quite some time as I'm probably going to redo it all - I was going to
>> start with the engine but I guess I could do that bit last.
>>
>> 2.0 ZVH sounds very interesting - Do you happen to know if it will fit
>> with the standard cvh frame or will I need to cut and modify it? I don't
>> know much about the ZVH so any information would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Where about's in the country are you, and what are you changing it out
>> for? Something more powerful?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> On 16/07/2013 13:57, Tom Walker wrote:
>>
>>> I will be swapping out my 2.0 ZVH (lots of mods) at some point, but
>>> probably not till next spring.  Is this in your timeframe?
>>>
>>> --BB
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Keith Joseph 
>>> Sender: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 02:19:39
>>> To: >
>>> Reply-To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] engine required!
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Has anyone got a cvh engine they no longer want / need? Mine went bang
>>> last week. Ideally, I'd like to put in something with a bit more get up and
>>> go  than the existing 1.6 cvh I currently have, maybe a turbo or a bigger
>>> capacity cvh.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, without performing major surgery on the engine frame, I
>>> think cvh is my only option.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>
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[Quantum Owners] Fuel tank levels

[Tom Walker]

Hi all,
I've recently had my 2+2 tank out to fit a new level sender for my VDO gauges.
In calibrating the level, I noticed with 35 litres in the tank the fluid sits 
just level with the bottom of the filler hole, meaning there is a fair bit of 
"air" still left in the tank (about 10cm).  Is it normal to have an air space 
at the top of a fuel tank?

Also, the rubber ring which seals the filler pipe to the tank is hard (26 years 
old!) so was wondering if any of you bright sparks knew of any "gunk" which is 
fuel safe which I could use to seal it?
If not, is this seal still available new, or an alternative?

Cheers, Tom

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank levels

[Tom Walker]

Mine has the sender on the top and came from an 87 XR2 so I guess 40 litres is 
the rated capacity. This would put the level above the bottom edge of this seal 
and therefore it will need to be a seal and not just a hard "plastic" locating 
ring.  Looks like the hunt is on for a Viton part or some military grade 
bathroom sealant.

If the original early seals are rubber, designed for 1990's fuel, then I guess 
we all could be facing issues with this part even if you aren't messing about 
with the tank like I have.

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank levels

If the tank is the later one with the sender in the top then it should take 
40 litres.
The earlier non xr2 one with the side sender is 34 Litre.

Those seals are very hard to find, especially as there are 2 different sizes 
depending if you have a metal or plastic filler pipe.
Ford only i think, and probably obsolete.
There is a early tank NOS one on Ebay at the moment.

Jim



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Walker
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 8:51 AM
To: Quantum owners
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Fuel tank levels

Hi all,
I've recently had my 2+2 tank out to fit a new level sender for my VDO 
gauges.
In calibrating the level, I noticed with 35 litres in the tank the fluid 
sits just level with the bottom of the filler hole, meaning there is a fair 
bit of "air" still left in the tank (about 10cm).  Is it normal to have an 
air space at the top of a fuel tank?

Also, the rubber ring which seals the filler pipe to the tank is hard (26 
years old!) so was wondering if any of you bright sparks knew of any "gunk" 
which is fuel safe which I could use to seal it?
If not, is this seal still available new, or an alternative?

Cheers, Tom

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Lowering springs for my 2+2.

[Tom Walker]

I played around with lowered and uprated springs on mine (16" wheels) and
ended up going back to standard xr2 on the front and standard fiesta on the
back, but on the back i cut out half a turn to lower it a small amount.

You could probably lower the front in the same way, but be careful as it is
a lot more difficult to put the spring back together again if you take too
much off. ;-)



On 29 Mar 2017 9:52 pm, "calum mcpherson"  wrote:

> I've recently changed my wheels 15" with 195-50-15 tyres to the correct
> set up 14" with 185-55-14, and my 2+2 looks like a Land Rover.
> I was going to change springs anyway, but now have brought this job
> forward as not looking as I want.
> I understand that the manual states 'Quantum red springs' for front and
> Fiesta mk2 1100 springs for rear, however when looking at lowering springs,
> most seem to be a standardised Fiesta mk2 set up , most covering full range
> excluding XR2 
>
> Anyone got any experience with lowering springs , any recommendations
> would be great .
>
> Car has std. XR2 engine set-up, thanks.
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Tom Walker]

TSW stealth?

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 12:30 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with
> me!  I have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used
> fairly regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I
> beginning to give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft
> oil seal, cam belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and
> reattachment of pipes under the car.
> I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car when I got it
> (really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing.  I have
> seen other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I cannot
> find out where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on the
> rim is KBA 44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful.
> I am wondering if this is an old Ford wheel.
> I have long suffered wheel wobble at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told
> me they couldn't balance the wheels, which I thought strange.  Perhaps they
> didn't like my haircut. I am considering spending a load of cash I haven't
> got on new wheels and tyres that I might not need. I am lucky to have
> access to the motor vehicle workshops at the college I work at and was
> given a very quick lesson in wheel balancing yesterday (10/07).  Suffice to
> say and miraculously, no wobbles. I can even get the car on a rolling
> roadnow  to tune it up - without the car jumping off which happened before.
> So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct
> centre cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might
> be able to get some?
>
> Thanks.
> Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Tom Walker]

I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc,
with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist
unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and
rear disc conversion.
However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since
fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour
yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...


On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single piston
> calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot system, I
> can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force. I purged
> all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled everything.
> I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just looking at
> options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking horse poo
> these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather have a more
> performance focused set up.
> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
> standard servo and master cylinder.
>
>
> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>
> Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake master cylinder conversions

[Tom Walker]

16" (205/40 16)


On Mon, 1 Apr 2019, 19:48 'Robert Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> That's a very large disc size for a Quantum. What size wheels are you
> using?
>
> Bob
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 1 Apr 2019, at 08:26, Tom Walker  wrote:
>
> I fitted a similar thing from Rally Design meant for a MK1 escort iirc,
> with an adjuster for front/rear bias. And I've got a remote vacuum assist
> unit (Austin something) driving my 305mm front hispec "monster" discs and
> rear disc conversion.
> However, due to various family issues, I've not driven the car since
> fitting the vacuum assist (4 years now) so I can't attest to it's behaviour
> yet. Maybe this summer (wistfully pondering)...
>
>
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019, 17:39 'Bob Craig' via Quantum Owners Group, <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> After upgrading my already upgraded 2+2 brakes from Cosworth single
>> piston calipers and huge discs to a much lighter Hispec billet 4 pot
>> system, I can't get a decent brake pedal and have next to no braking force.
>> I purged all the old brake fluid and refilled with dot5.1, pressure bled
>> everything. I'm thinking that my master cylinder may be faulty and just
>> looking at options. I know the later type cylinder is a bit like rocking
>> horse poo these days and if going to the extent of changing, I'd rather
>> have a more performance focused set up.
>> Has anyone fitted the Burton Power bias assembly. It does away with the
>> standard servo and master cylinder.
>>
>>
>> https://www.burtonpower.com/adjustable-bias-brake-assy-ford-fiesta-mk1-mk2-mk3-brk061.html
>>
>> Bob
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Brakes, jumping to conclusions and maths

[Tom Walker]

Are you sure about the maths there? With the 4-pots you've got a total
3060mm2 of cylinder per wheel (regardless of which side of the disk they
are on) vs 1810mm2 for the original calipers - which is about 40% more
piston per wheel.  So for a given pressure of fluid pushed (N/mm2) from the
master cylinder, the slaves will exert 40% more pressure (F2=F1xA2/A1) but
your foot will have to move 40% further (F1d1=F2d2).

If you can live with the pedal travel, then for the same leg work you will
be applying 40% more pressure to the disks.   Add to this the fact that
with the four pots you have that pressure over a slightly larger pad area,
and of more significance at a greater distance from the axis giving greater
braking torque - the braking efficiency increase will be more than the
simple 40% calculation.

If you fit a bigger master cylinder (for argument's sake let's say you find
a cylinder which is 40% bigger) then you will negate the need to push the
pedal so far, but at the expense of physical effort as the pedal pressure
will need to be higher.

As it happens I've got the HiSpec 4-pots on my 2+2 but with 305mm rotors
(you need 16" wheels).  On the back it's the Fiesta Centre rear-disk
conversion (I think they are Escort disks with a Granada caliper, but I may
be wrong). Under the foot it's got an adjustable front/rear brake bias
pedal box with 0.75" pistons for both front and back and most recently,
about 4 years ago, I fitted a remote vacuum assistance unit (designed for
Robin Reliants - I think?!?) but to be honest for various family reasons,
I've not driven it yet, so I can't tell whether it's brilliant or a
death-trap. I can tell you it's really really really dusty.

Tom


On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 09:37, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> I’m afraid it looks like my calculations disappeared in one of my PC
> upgrades.
>
> I know on my final setup i drilled a new hole in the brake pedal further
> up from the existing XR2 one.
> I think that was to give me more pressure in the brake system at the
> expense of a bit more brake travel.
>
> As Bill says, you need to upgrade or replace all the bushes and pins in
> the linkage.
> You can also make sure that the pushrod in the servo is adjusted correctly
> so that there is no play between it and the piston in the master cylinder.
> Most people don’t know that is adjustable.
> Be careful though, the pistons in the master cylinder have to return to
> the full idle position to allow any pressure in the system to fully
> disappear when you release the pedal.
> If you leave pressure on the pistons in the master cylinder via the servo
> then when the brakes get hot the expanding brake fluid has no where to go
> and gradually holds the brakes on, BTDT
>
> Jim
>
>
> *From:* russ price
> *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2020 9:18 AM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Brakes, jumping to conclusions and maths
>
> Thanks Bill your reply certainly does help. I have fitted braided braided
> lines but the linkage could do with a bit work. So all i need to do now is
> find a servo + mastercylinder the same dimensions or as close to the Fiesta
> items as possible, there is plenty of room and fabrication of the servo
> tower/bracket if it needs changing should not be problematic. That is of
> course unless someone has a mk2 servo they want to sell.
>
> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 8:36:46 AM UTC+1, Bill Allison wrote:
>>
>> Hi Russ
>>
>> I hope these comments will be useful:
>>
>> Your standard setup: Caliper piston area
>> 2 x 1810mm2 = 3620mm2
>>
>> Hi-Spec setup: Pair of twin piston calipers (a pair of opposing pistons
>> exerts the same clamping force as a sliding caliper with a single piston)
>> 4 x 765mm2 = 3060mm2
>>
>> Difference = (3620-3060)/3620 = 85%
>>
>> So on the face of it you need a 15% smaller (area-wise) than standard
>> master cylinder to get the same braking effort, BUT, you need also to take
>> account of the increase in leverage due to the larger discs: 265/225 (the
>> effective diameters) implies a 17.5% increase (area-wise) in m/cyl size.
>>
>> The two as near as dammit cancel out, so you actually need to not change
>> master cylinder size!
>>
>> I have not incorporated rear slave cylinder size in the calcs because the
>> rear pressure limiting valve takes them out of the equation at quite low
>> pedal pressures.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>>
>> Regarding pedal feel, it's pretty much essential to replace the rubber
>> flexible hoses front and rear with braided teflon lines, I found also that
>> pedal feel can be further transformed by removing play at every point in
>&g

Re: [Quantum Owners] Brakes, jumping to conclusions and maths

[Tom Walker]

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here - I thought by 'reply all' it went 
to the group.  I'll try again - apologies if I've done it again.

I was querying Bills calculations above (or below - I don't know) because 
even though the pistons are opposed you still need to use the full volume 
of the slave cylinders.

Tom


On Monday, 27 July 2020 15:21:27 UTC+1, Jim Hearne wrote:
>
> Hi Toms,
> Whose maths are you querying ?
>
> Jim 
>  
> *From:* Tom Walker 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2020 3:12 PM
> *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Brakes, jumping to conclusions and maths
>  
> Are you sure about the maths there? With the 4-pots you've got a total 
> 3060mm2 of cylinder per wheel (regardless of which side of the disk they 
> are on) vs 1810mm2 for the original calipers - which is about 40% more 
> piston per wheel.  So for a given pressure of fluid pushed (N/mm2) from the 
> master cylinder, the slaves will exert 40% more pressure (F2=F1xA2/A1) but 
> your foot will have to move 40% further (F1d1=F2d2). 
>  
> If you can live with the pedal travel, then for the same leg work you will 
> be applying 40% more pressure to the disks.   Add to this the fact that 
> with the four pots you have that pressure over a slightly larger pad area, 
> and of more significance at a greater distance from the axis giving greater 
> braking torque - the braking efficiency increase will be more than the 
> simple 40% calculation.
>  
> If you fit a bigger master cylinder (for argument's sake let's say you 
> find a cylinder which is 40% bigger) then you will negate the need to push 
> the pedal so far, but at the expense of physical effort as the pedal 
> pressure will need to be higher.
>  
> As it happens I've got the HiSpec 4-pots on my 2+2 but with 305mm rotors 
> (you need 16" wheels).  On the back it's the Fiesta Centre rear-disk 
> conversion (I think they are Escort disks with a Granada caliper, but I may 
> be wrong). Under the foot it's got an adjustable front/rear brake bias 
> pedal box with 0.75" pistons for both front and back and most recently, 
> about 4 years ago, I fitted a remote vacuum assistance unit (designed for 
> Robin Reliants - I think?!?) but to be honest for various family reasons, 
> I've not driven it yet, so I can't tell whether it's brilliant or a 
> death-trap. I can tell you it's really really really dusty.
>  
> Tom
>  
>  
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 09:37, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>> I’m afraid it looks like my calculations disappeared in one of my PC 
>> upgrades.
>>  
>> I know on my final setup i drilled a new hole in the brake pedal further 
>> up from the existing XR2 one.
>> I think that was to give me more pressure in the brake system at the 
>> expense of a bit more brake travel.
>>  
>> As Bill says, you need to upgrade or replace all the bushes and pins in 
>> the linkage.
>> You can also make sure that the pushrod in the servo is adjusted 
>> correctly so that there is no play between it and the piston in the master 
>> cylinder.
>> Most people don’t know that is adjustable.
>> Be careful though, the pistons in the master cylinder have to return to 
>> the full idle position to allow any pressure in the system to fully 
>> disappear when you release the pedal.
>> If you leave pressure on the pistons in the master cylinder via the servo 
>> then when the brakes get hot the expanding brake fluid has no where to go 
>> and gradually holds the brakes on, BTDT
>>  
>> Jim
>>  
>>  
>> *From:* russ price 
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 27, 2020 9:18 AM
>> *To:* Quantum Owners Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Brakes, jumping to conclusions and maths
>>  
>> Thanks Bill your reply certainly does help. I have fitted braided braided 
>> lines but the linkage could do with a bit work. So all i need to do now is 
>> find a servo + mastercylinder the same dimensions or as close to the Fiesta 
>> items as possible, there is plenty of room and fabrication of the servo 
>> tower/bracket if it needs changing should not be problematic. That is of 
>> course unless someone has a mk2 servo they want to sell.
>>
>> On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 8:36:46 AM UTC+1, Bill Allison wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hi Russ
>>>  
>>> I hope these comments will be useful:
>>>  
>>> Your standard setup: Caliper piston area 
>>> 2 x 1810mm2 = 3620mm2
>>>
>>> Hi-Spec setup: Pair of twin piston calipers (a pair of opposing pistons 
>>> exerts the same clampin

Re: [Quantum Owners] How many?

[Tom Walker (Blackberry)]

282 here

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From: "bobbycrai...@tiscali.co.uk" 
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 07:31:11 
To: 
Reply-To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] How many?

Mine is 267 built in '96, so their should be a good few more after 
that. 

Bob Craig (Q2-267)

>Original Message
>From: jon.jacks...@ntlworld.com
>Date: 27/09/2011 23:49 
>To: 
>Subj: [Quantum Owners] How many?
>
>I am curious, how many 2+2's were built and how many survive?
>Have any had accidents?
>The reason I ask is that I have just read about the Minari kit car 
and how it sold 130 examples.

>The 2+2 was cited as its nemesis.

>Cheers Jon 

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Re: [Quantum Owners] My Mystery CVH

[Tom Walker (Blackberry)]

I'll second that. They worked on my zvh and made a real hash of it.  I could 
not recommend them less.

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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] My Mystery CVH

It sounds like it could be a specialised engineering engine. Quantum used them 
as a supplier for a while. I had one from them as well as the worst customer 
service I've ever had from a company. 

The engine needed a rebuild after 30k miles!

Matthew





On 7 Jan 2012, at 12:30, "Susan and Martin Scott" 
 wrote:

> Dave,
>   I have a Ford Technical Data book which may give some answers if you can 
> tell me the engine number. According to the book, for CVH is should be either 
> on one of 2 flat areas on the top of the block on the exhaust side either 
> near the front or back, or stamped into the front of the block near where the 
> alternator tensioner bracket fits.
> Martin
> - Original Message - From: "Dave the Subbie" 
> 
> To: "Quantum Owners Group" 
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 12:36 PM
> Subject: [Quantum Owners] My Mystery CVH
> 
> 
> Morning All,
> 
> Just taken the head off the CVH from my latest acquisition and the
> mystery deepens. As you will recall, the previous owner thought it was
> a 2.0 and knew it had some fancy bits fitted, but wasn't sure of the
> details. Well, I had to have a look didn't I...?
> 
> Bore is 83mm, Stroke is 88mm, which, I believe, is the same as the
> 1905cc American engine. However, it has the 81SM6090 Head (with the
> Cross-Hatching that is supposedly so desirable), and the block seems
> to be the 1.6 height, not the 1.8, as the 1.6 cam belt cover fits,
> which it doesn't on the Sierra block. "E8EE", "AA" and "9E25" are cast
> into the block.
> 
> Pistons are 'Hemi' type, with large cutouts cast in them for valves
> "3019P", "9-6" and "0.75mm" marked in the crowns. The head appears to
> have 43mm inlet valves fitted. Haven't taken the valves out, so can't
> accurately measure them, but they aren't 42 (standard) or 45mm. Might
> be 42.6 or might be 43.5. Ports look to have been modified, and the
> cam is a Piper BP285.
> 
> Was running a Weber DFT carb and a 4-2-1 manifold into a standard
> exhaust. Unfortunately, I never actually drove the thing as it was out
> of MoT. Was misfiring badly, but turned out to have a u/s plug lead
> and a cracked coil terminal, so that should be easy to fix.
> 
> Anyway, I'm interested to hear any ideas as to the origin of the
> engine, as I'm going to need some spares for it. At a minimum, I need
> a head gasket set and stretch bolts. Plan at the moment is a de-coke
> and re-assembly, ready to go into the 2+2, either using the Weber, or
> a set of R6 bike carbs that came with it.
> 
> So, if any of you can provide any information, based on the above,
> I'll be very grateful.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave.
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