RE: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-26 Thread 'Chris Fairlie' via Quantum Owners Group 
Genuine Mk3 Fiesta 3 door electric window mechanisms are getting hard to find. 
I managed to modify KA Mk 1 (1996 to 2008) using the later factor method of 
shortening the track and adding a short spacer. I have sent an article to be 
published in the next Quantum Mechanics Magazine. The big plusses here are the 
KA mechanisms are readily available at £20 each, they use exactly the same 
connectors as Fiesta Mk3 and best of all they use the same track profile. The 
only small issues are the top mounting is different and the motor mounts nearer 
to the track, but issues can be overcome.

 

I am happy to help or share more details if required.

 

Regards

 

Chris Fairlie

 

From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com [mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Hearne
Sent: 25 October 2018 11:37
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

 

Yes, there was, you could buy it to fit yourself.

I bought one.

It still used the manual lifter and a remote motor with a cable driven gearbox 
that fitted over the manual winder instead of the handle.

 

Jim



On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:12:02 AM UTC+1, Susan and Martin Scott 
wrote:

It seems there was a (maybe dealer fitted)?  kit which replaced the manual 
handle with a motor on the door card! 

I found it on a Fiesta forum on the 'net.

Martin

- Original Message - 

From: Jim Hearne <mailto:j...@quantums.info>  

To: Quantum Owners Group <mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

 

There wasn't a MK2 fiesta part with electric windows, these are Mk3 parts 
incorrectly listed. 

 

I've posted several replies to this thread via email but none of them make it 
to the group.

Anybody else getting this ?

 

This reply i've done on the web site.

 

Jim



On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:01:52 AM UTC+1, paulk wrote: 

I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of the 
rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on the 
bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129 the 
rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up and 
bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline with the 
cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window mechanism as 
I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one with electric 
windows.  

 

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews, mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

HI Steve, 

 

I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?

 

ATB

 

Derek

 





On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

Derek,

I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the QSC 
recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, so 
welding parts wouldn't have been expected.

 

I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.

 

Regards,

Steve

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On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Dear All, 

 

To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649>
 &_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

 

This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal rail.  
It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and fit the 
socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm shortening to fit 
the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 

 

As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the usual 
way when built?  

 

I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one end 
shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  

 

ATB

 

Derek

 

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-25 Thread Derek Clews 
Hi,

Yes, remember that first try at mod'ing, now.  Whoever welded the ford item did 
a great job of getting the angles right.  The ford item may not be Mk2, 
probably not.  I said it was in the coupe, not in a Mk2.  The aftermarket one 
is advertised as fitting the Mk2 doors.  And is a suitable for Q mod’ing.

ATB

Derek


> On 25 Oct 2018, at 11:01, kynastonp  wrote:
> 
> I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of 
> the rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on 
> the bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129 
> the rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up 
> and bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline with 
> the cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window 
> mechanism as I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one with 
> electric windows.  
> 
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews,  > wrote:
> HI Steve,
> 
> I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?
> 
> ATB
> 
> Derek
> 
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
>> mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Derek,
>> I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the QSC 
>> recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, 
>> so welding parts wouldn't have been expected.
>> 
>> I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>> --
>> h4-turbo.co.uk 
>> quantumowners.club 
>> 
>> On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:
>>> 
>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal 
>>> rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and 
>>> fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm 
>>> shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 
>>> 
>>> As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
>>> being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
>>> shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the 
>>> usual way when built?  
>>> 
>>> I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one 
>>> end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  
>>> 
>>> ATB
>>> 
>>> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-25 Thread kynastonp . 
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From: quantumowners@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Jim Hearne 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:06:30 AM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

There wasn't a MK2 fiesta part with electric windows, these are Mk3 parts 
incorrectly listed.

I've posted several replies to this thread via email but none of them make it 
to the group.
Anybody else getting this ?

This reply i've done on the web site.

Jim


On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:01:52 AM UTC+1, paulk wrote:
I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of the 
rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on the 
bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129 the 
rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up and 
bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline with the 
cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window mechanism as 
I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one with electric 
windows.

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews, 
mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
HI Steve,

I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?

ATB

Derek


On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
mailto:quantumowners@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Derek,
I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the QSC 
recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, so 
welding parts wouldn't have been expected.

I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.

Regards,
Steve
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quantumowners.club<http://quantumowners.club>


On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews 
mailto:derekcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear All,

To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649>

This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal rail.  
It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and fit the 
socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm shortening to fit 
the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting.

As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the usual 
way when built?

I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one end 
shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.

ATB

Derek

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-25 Thread Jim Hearne 
Yes, there was, you could buy it to fit yourself.
I bought one.
It still used the manual lifter and a remote motor with a cable driven 
gearbox that fitted over the manual winder instead of the handle.

Jim


On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:12:02 AM UTC+1, Susan and Martin Scott 
wrote:
>
> It seems there was a (maybe dealer fitted)?  kit which replaced the manual 
> handle with a motor on the door card! 
> I found it on a Fiesta forum on the 'net.
> Martin
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Jim Hearne  
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group  
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator
>
> There wasn't a MK2 fiesta part with electric windows, these are Mk3 parts 
> incorrectly listed. 
>
> I've posted several replies to this thread via email but none of them make 
> it to the group.
> Anybody else getting this ?
>
> This reply i've done on the web site.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:01:52 AM UTC+1, paulk wrote: 
>>
>> I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so 
>> of the rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed 
>> on the bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 
>> q2129 the rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece 
>> moved up and bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed 
>> inline with the cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 
>> window mechanism as I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw 
>> one with electric windows.  
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>>
>>> HI Steve, 
>>>
>>> I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?
>>>
>>> ATB
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <
>>> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Derek,
>>> I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the 
>>> QSC recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special 
>>> tools, so welding parts wouldn't have been expected.
>>>
>>> I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Steve
>>> --
>>> h4-turbo.co.uk
>>> quantumowners.club
>>>
>>> On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All, 
>>>>
>>>> To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>>>>  
>>>> <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649>
>>>>
>>>> This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the 
>>>> metal rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the 
>>>> plug. 
>>>> (and fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm 
>>>> shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 
>>>>
>>>> As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 
>>>> 20mm by being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and 
>>>> ground to shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was 
>>>> this the usual way when built?  
>>>>
>>>> I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut 
>>>> one end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  
>>>>
>>>> ATB
>>>>
>>>> Derek
>>>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-25 Thread Susan and Martin Scott 
It seems there was a (maybe dealer fitted)?  kit which replaced the manual 
handle with a motor on the door card! 
I found it on a Fiesta forum on the 'net.
Martin
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Hearne 
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator


  There wasn't a MK2 fiesta part with electric windows, these are Mk3 parts 
incorrectly listed.


  I've posted several replies to this thread via email but none of them make it 
to the group.
  Anybody else getting this ?


  This reply i've done on the web site.


  Jim


  On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:01:52 AM UTC+1, paulk wrote:
I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of 
the rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on the 
bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129 the 
rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up and 
bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline with the 
cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window mechanism as 
I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one with electric 
windows.  


On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews,  wrote:

  HI Steve,


  I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?


  ATB


  Derek




On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
 wrote:


Derek,
I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the 
QSC recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, 
so welding parts wouldn't have been expected.


I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.


Regards,
Steve
--
h4-turbo.co.uk
quantumowners.club


On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews  wrote:

  Dear All,


  To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:


  
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649


  This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the 
metal rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. 
(and fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm 
shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 


  As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 
20mm by being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground 
to shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the 
usual way when built?  


  I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you 
cut one end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  


  ATB


  Derek


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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-25 Thread Jim Hearne 
There wasn't a MK2 fiesta part with electric windows, these are Mk3 parts 
incorrectly listed.

I've posted several replies to this thread via email but none of them make 
it to the group.
Anybody else getting this ?

This reply i've done on the web site.

Jim


On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 11:01:52 AM UTC+1, paulk wrote:
>
> I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so 
> of the rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed 
> on the bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 
> q2129 the rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece 
> moved up and bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed 
> inline with the cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 
> window mechanism as I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw 
> one with electric windows.  
>
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews,  wrote:
>
>> HI Steve,
>>
>> I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?
>>
>> ATB
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>> On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <
>> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Derek,
>> I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the 
>> QSC recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special 
>> tools, so welding parts wouldn't have been expected.
>>
>> I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Steve
>> --
>> h4-turbo.co.uk
>> quantumowners.club
>>
>> On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>> This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal 
>>> rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and 
>>> fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm 
>>> shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 
>>>
>>> As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm 
>>> by being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground 
>>> to shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the 
>>> usual way when built?  
>>>
>>> I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut 
>>> one end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  
>>>
>>> ATB
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-25 Thread kynastonp 
I built saloon 103 and the method used was to bend the bottom inch or so of
the rail towards the center of the car ,but this meant the cable rubbed on
the bottom of the rail and eventually wore through and jammed. On 2+2 q2129
the rivet holding the nylon part of the rail was removed the piece moved up
and bolted onto the rail ,a metal slotted spacer was then placed inline
with the cable outer. It is interesting that you found a fiesta MK2 window
mechanism as I worked for ford at the time of the MK2 and never saw one
with electric windows.

On Thu, 25 Oct 2018, 10:18 Derek Clews,  wrote:

> HI Steve,
>
> I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?
>
> ATB
>
> Derek
>
>
> On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <
> quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Derek,
> I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the
> QSC recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special
> tools, so welding parts wouldn't have been expected.
>
> I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
>
> Regards,
> Steve
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> On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews  wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>> 
>>
>> This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal
>> rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and
>> fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm
>> shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting.
>>
>> As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm
>> by being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground
>> to shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the
>> usual way when built?
>>
>> I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut
>> one end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.
>>
>> ATB
>>
>> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-25 Thread Derek Clews 
HI Steve,

I agree.  Unless early window parts were factory exchange, perhaps?

ATB

Derek


> On 25 Oct 2018, at 00:13, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 
>  wrote:
> 
> Derek,
> I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the QSC 
> recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, so 
> welding parts wouldn't have been expected.
> 
> I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
> 
> Regards,
> Steve
> --
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> quantumowners.club
> 
> On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews  wrote:
> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal 
>> rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and 
>> fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm 
>> shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 
>> 
>> As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
>> being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
>> shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the 
>> usual way when built?  
>> 
>> I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one 
>> end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  
>> 
>> ATB
>> 
>> Derek
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-24 Thread 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group 

Derek,
I'd assume the method of shortening as per your 2+2 would have been the QSC 
recommended way. The cars were designed to be built without special tools, 
so welding parts wouldn't have been expected.


I might be wrong, so feel free to correct me.

Regards,
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On 24 October 2018 23:32:23 Derek Clews  wrote:

Dear All,

To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal 
rail.  It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and 
fit the socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm 
shortening to fit the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting.


As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the 
usual way when built?


I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one 
end shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.


ATB

Derek

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[Quantum Owners] Electric window regulator

2018-10-24 Thread Derek Clews 
Dear All,

To those interested.  The following Aftermarket part:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-Mk2-1-0-Electric-Window-Regulator-Right-1989-TLB-Mechanism-Lifter/232462190335?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
 


This is modifiable.  The two ends are plastic and clipped onto the metal rail.  
It comes with a plug and wire tails so you can renew the plug. (and fit the 
socket of the new motor, of course)  It seems to need 20 mm shortening to fit 
the Coupe door, so a 20mm spacer fitting. 

As an aside, my Coupe ford regulator seems to have been cut down by 20mm by 
being cut in the middle of the rail and welded back together and ground to 
shape. This brings the mounting brackets closer together.  Was this the usual 
way when built?  

I built my 2 + 2 new and it needs more shortening but basically you cut one end 
shorter.  Mounting brackets stay in the same position.  

ATB

Derek

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