[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[John Woodward]

Russell,
I have emailed you 11 pages of info. that came with my 2+2, it's a
large file so may take some time to download.
John

On 9 Sep, 19:50, Bash  wrote:
> I had a Granada converted to LPG in the past and it was great, much
> better than the Diesel Mondeo I had after it.
>
> I was going to covert a 4x4 to gas and have even got the complete kit
> in the garage ready to fit (minus the carb ring) but got a Quantum 2+2
>
> Thought about converting my 2+2 to LPG but went for twin 40's for the
> hell of it :-)
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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Bash]

I had a Granada converted to LPG in the past and it was great, much
better than the Diesel Mondeo I had after it.


I was going to covert a 4x4 to gas and have even got the complete kit
in the garage ready to fit (minus the carb ring) but got a Quantum 2+2


Thought about converting my 2+2 to LPG but went for twin 40's for the
hell of it :-)


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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[John Woodward]

In my turbo  diesel 2+2 , the mk2 fiesta fuel tank does not have a
swirl pot, this was the diesel tank supplied to the orignal owner/
builder. The engine is a 1995 spec, again supplied by QSC it was "easy
to wire up as the wiring just plugged in" according to the original
owner, wiring was not his forte as I've found out over the years, but
the engine/glow plug wiring has been fine, I'm sure I have the wiring
diagram supplied by QSC, I'll look it out so I can scan it for you. My
2+2 has an mk 4 Escort RST radiator & intercooler. I agree with Jim
that a late MK3 Fiesta would be an ideal doner, thats what I would
look for if I was to convert my CVH enginrd Saloon ( which I decided
against), don't forget you will need a bigger battery ( or 2 on a
Saloon ?) a high output alternator especially if your fitting EPAS. It
may be worth contacting Andy Heaton as his Saloon is the sister car to
my 2+2.

John
On 9 Sep, 15:19, Jim Hearne  wrote:
> It must be able to flow enough, the outlet of the pipe is 8mm
> The question is has the injection pump got enough suction to pull the
> petrol out of the tank through the smaller pipe.
> The roller type pumps used don't suck very well.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Matthew Wastell wrote:
> > I wonder if the reduced pipes can flow enough petrol I assume probably  
> > yes for a standard zetec but I wonder for a turbo. Any ideas how to  
> > work that sort of thing out?
> > M
>
> > On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:33, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
> >> Yes, they did.
> >> Because the outlet will be 6 or 8mm the diesel injection pump uses
> >> rather than the 12or 14mm outlet the petrol injection pump needs for
> >> it's gravity feed.
> >> It might still work but nobody has tried.
>
> >> Jim
>
> >> Matthew Wastell wrote:
>
> >>> Did they make a mk2 diesel? If so why aren't we fitting that for fuel
> >>> injection conversions?
>
> >>> Matthew
>
> >>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:16, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>  I mentioned that in the other reply..
>
>  Jim
>
>  Matthew Wastell wrote:
>
> > Do diesels need some kind of swirl pot or change of fuel tank?
>
> > Matthew
>
> > On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Jim Hearne  > > wrote:
>
> >> I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few
> >> Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and  
> >> changed a
> >> gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
> >> The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical
> >> operation, neither had a ECU
> >> So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery
> >> feed plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
> >> The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to  
> >> connect
> >> into the Quantum loom.
> >> Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu
> >> loom are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should
> >> just
> >> come down to the same few wires.
> >> I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.
>
> >> I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can
> >> get
> >> a complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5
> >> gearbox  (which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom
> >> and all the other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might
> >> not get if you just bought an engine off ebay.
>
> >> You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with
> >> the
> >> Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses  
> >> (you
> >> can fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the Zetec.)
>
> >> Jim
>
> >> Russell Willcox wrote:
>
> >>> Thanks Jim,
> >>>  Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the
> >>> simpler the
> >>> better as this usually means lower repair costs and less
> >>> failures. I am
> >>> attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical
> >>> Editor of
> >>> Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at
> >>>http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/this is a free  
> >>> course
> >>> beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him  
> >>> know,
> >>> therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.
>
> >>>  All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable  
> >>> and
> >>> economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything
> >>> mechanical,
> >>> but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When
> >>> did
> >>> electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are
> >>> not
> >>> that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars
> >>> that will
> >>> beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal"
> >>> cars
> >>> hence changing the Q.
>
> >>> Russell
>
> >>> Jim Hearne wrote:
>
>  I believe part off the 

[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Jim Hearne]

It must be able to flow enough, the outlet of the pipe is 8mm
The question is has the injection pump got enough suction to pull the 
petrol out of the tank through the smaller pipe.
The roller type pumps used don't suck very well.

Jim


Matthew Wastell wrote:
> I wonder if the reduced pipes can flow enough petrol I assume probably  
> yes for a standard zetec but I wonder for a turbo. Any ideas how to  
> work that sort of thing out?
> M
>
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:33, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>   
>> Yes, they did.
>> Because the outlet will be 6 or 8mm the diesel injection pump uses
>> rather than the 12or 14mm outlet the petrol injection pump needs for
>> it's gravity feed.
>> It might still work but nobody has tried.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> Matthew Wastell wrote:
>> 
>>> Did they make a mk2 diesel? If so why aren't we fitting that for fuel
>>> injection conversions?
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:16, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 I mentioned that in the other reply..

 Jim

 Matthew Wastell wrote:

 
> Do diesels need some kind of swirl pot or change of fuel tank?
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Jim Hearne  > wrote:
>
>
>   
>> I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few
>> Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and  
>> changed a
>> gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
>> The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical
>> operation, neither had a ECU
>> So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery
>> feed plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
>> The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to  
>> connect
>> into the Quantum loom.
>> Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu
>> loom are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should
>> just
>> come down to the same few wires.
>> I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.
>>
>> I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can
>> get
>> a complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5
>> gearbox  (which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom
>> and all the other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might
>> not get if you just bought an engine off ebay.
>>
>> You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with
>> the
>> Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses  
>> (you
>> can fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the Zetec.)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Russell Willcox wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Thanks Jim,
>>>  Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the
>>> simpler the
>>> better as this usually means lower repair costs and less
>>> failures. I am
>>> attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical
>>> Editor of
>>> Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at
>>> http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free  
>>> course
>>> beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him  
>>> know,
>>> therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.
>>>
>>>  All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable  
>>> and
>>> economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything
>>> mechanical,
>>> but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When
>>> did
>>> electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are
>>> not
>>> that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars
>>> that will
>>> beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal"
>>> cars
>>> hence changing the Q.
>>>
>>> Russell
>>>
>>> Jim Hearne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement  
 needs
 cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the
 original.
 The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early
 diesel,
 they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer
 they are.
 But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they
 should be
 fairly simple to wire in.

 The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel
 pumps don't
 like sucking up air.

 The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally
 doesn't have
 an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad
 and
 intercooler from a Escort RST.

 Jim


 russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk 
 

[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Matthew Wastell]

I wonder if the reduced pipes can flow enough petrol I assume probably  
yes for a standard zetec but I wonder for a turbo. Any ideas how to  
work that sort of thing out?
M



On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:33, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> Yes, they did.
> Because the outlet will be 6 or 8mm the diesel injection pump uses
> rather than the 12or 14mm outlet the petrol injection pump needs for
> it's gravity feed.
> It might still work but nobody has tried.
>
> Jim
>
>
> Matthew Wastell wrote:
>> Did they make a mk2 diesel? If so why aren't we fitting that for fuel
>> injection conversions?
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:16, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I mentioned that in the other reply..
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Matthew Wastell wrote:
>>>
 Do diesels need some kind of swirl pot or change of fuel tank?

 Matthew



 On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Jim Hearne >>> > wrote:


> I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few
> Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and  
> changed a
> gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
> The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical
> operation, neither had a ECU
> So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery
> feed plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
> The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to  
> connect
> into the Quantum loom.
> Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu
> loom are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should
> just
> come down to the same few wires.
> I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.
>
> I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can
> get
> a complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5
> gearbox  (which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom
> and all the other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might
> not get if you just bought an engine off ebay.
>
> You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with
> the
> Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses  
> (you
> can fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the Zetec.)
>
> Jim
>
> Russell Willcox wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jim,
>>  Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the
>> simpler the
>> better as this usually means lower repair costs and less
>> failures. I am
>> attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical
>> Editor of
>> Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at
>> http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free  
>> course
>> beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him  
>> know,
>> therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.
>>
>>  All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable  
>> and
>> economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything
>> mechanical,
>> but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When
>> did
>> electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are
>> not
>> that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars
>> that will
>> beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal"
>> cars
>> hence changing the Q.
>>
>> Russell
>>
>> Jim Hearne wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement  
>>> needs
>>> cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the
>>> original.
>>> The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early
>>> diesel,
>>> they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer
>>> they are.
>>> But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they
>>> should be
>>> fairly simple to wire in.
>>>
>>> The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel
>>> pumps don't
>>> like sucking up air.
>>>
>>> The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally
>>> doesn't have
>>> an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad
>>> and
>>> intercooler from a Escort RST.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk 
>>> >>
 wrote:

>>>
 I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to
 convert
 the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group
 with
 regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go
 turbo or
 non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the
 CVH box
 will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same

[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Jim Hearne]

Yes, they did.
Because the outlet will be 6 or 8mm the diesel injection pump uses 
rather than the 12or 14mm outlet the petrol injection pump needs for 
it's gravity feed.
It might still work but nobody has tried.

Jim


Matthew Wastell wrote:
> Did they make a mk2 diesel? If so why aren't we fitting that for fuel  
> injection conversions?
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:16, Jim Hearne  wrote:
>
>   
>> I mentioned that in the other reply..
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Matthew Wastell wrote:
>> 
>>> Do diesels need some kind of swirl pot or change of fuel tank?
>>>
>>> Matthew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Jim Hearne >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few
 Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and changed a
 gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
 The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical
 operation, neither had a ECU
 So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery
 feed plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
 The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to connect
 into the Quantum loom.
 Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu
 loom are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should  
 just
 come down to the same few wires.
 I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.

 I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can  
 get
 a complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5
 gearbox  (which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom
 and all the other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might
 not get if you just bought an engine off ebay.

 You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with  
 the
 Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses (you
 can fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the Zetec.)

 Jim

 Russell Willcox wrote:
 
> Thanks Jim,
>   Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the  
> simpler the
> better as this usually means lower repair costs and less  
> failures. I am
> attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical  
> Editor of
> Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at
> http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free course
> beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him know,
> therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.
>
>   All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable and
> economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything  
> mechanical,
> but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When  
> did
> electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are  
> not
> that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars  
> that will
> beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal"  
> cars
> hence changing the Q.
>
> Russell
>
> Jim Hearne wrote:
>
>   
>> I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement needs
>> cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the  
>> original.
>> The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early  
>> diesel,
>> they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer  
>> they are.
>> But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they  
>> should be
>> fairly simple to wire in.
>>
>> The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel  
>> pumps don't
>> like sucking up air.
>>
>> The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally  
>> doesn't have
>> an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad  
>> and
>> intercooler from a Escort RST.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk 
>> > 
>>> wrote:
>>>   
>> 
>>> I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to  
>>> convert
>>> the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group  
>>> with
>>> regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go  
>>> turbo or
>>> non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the  
>>> CVH box
>>> will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same  
>>> box
>>> originally.
>>>
>>> I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
>>> engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.
>>>
>>> As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will  
>>> need a
>>> live feed from the ig

[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Matthew Wastell]

Did they make a mk2 diesel? If so why aren't we fitting that for fuel  
injection conversions?

Matthew



On 9 Sep 2009, at 13:16, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> I mentioned that in the other reply..
>
> Jim
>
> Matthew Wastell wrote:
>> Do diesels need some kind of swirl pot or change of fuel tank?
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Jim Hearne > > wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few
>>> Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and changed a
>>> gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
>>> The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical
>>> operation, neither had a ECU
>>> So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery
>>> feed plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
>>> The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to connect
>>> into the Quantum loom.
>>> Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu
>>> loom are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should  
>>> just
>>> come down to the same few wires.
>>> I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.
>>>
>>> I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can  
>>> get
>>> a complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5
>>> gearbox  (which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom
>>> and all the other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might
>>> not get if you just bought an engine off ebay.
>>>
>>> You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with  
>>> the
>>> Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses (you
>>> can fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the Zetec.)
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Russell Willcox wrote:
 Thanks Jim,
   Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the  
 simpler the
 better as this usually means lower repair costs and less  
 failures. I am
 attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical  
 Editor of
 Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at
 http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free course
 beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him know,
 therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.

   All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable and
 economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything  
 mechanical,
 but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When  
 did
 electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are  
 not
 that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars  
 that will
 beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal"  
 cars
 hence changing the Q.

 Russell

 Jim Hearne wrote:

> I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement needs
> cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the  
> original.
> The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early  
> diesel,
> they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer  
> they are.
> But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they  
> should be
> fairly simple to wire in.
>
> The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel  
> pumps don't
> like sucking up air.
>
> The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally  
> doesn't have
> an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad  
> and
> intercooler from a Escort RST.
>
> Jim
>
>
> russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk 
>  > wrote:
>
>
>> I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to  
>> convert
>> the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group  
>> with
>> regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go  
>> turbo or
>> non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the  
>> CVH box
>> will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same  
>> box
>> originally.
>>
>> I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
>> engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.
>>
>> As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will  
>> need a
>> live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs  
>> and a
>> similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.
>>
>> When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to  
>> go in
>> to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even  
>> write a
>> magazine article.
>>
>> Any information gratefully received.
>>
>> Russell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --- 
> --- 
> --

[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Jim Hearne]

I mentioned that in the other reply..

Jim

Matthew Wastell wrote:
> Do diesels need some kind of swirl pot or change of fuel tank?
>
> Matthew
>
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Jim Hearne  > wrote:
>
>> I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few 
>> Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and changed a 
>> gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
>> The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical 
>> operation, neither had a ECU
>> So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery 
>> feed plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
>> The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to connect 
>> into the Quantum loom.
>> Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu 
>> loom are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should just 
>> come down to the same few wires.
>> I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.
>>
>> I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can get 
>> a complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5 
>> gearbox  (which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom 
>> and all the other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might 
>> not get if you just bought an engine off ebay.
>>
>> You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with the 
>> Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses (you 
>> can fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the Zetec.)
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Russell Willcox wrote:
>>> Thanks Jim,
>>>Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the simpler the 
>>> better as this usually means lower repair costs and less failures. I am 
>>> attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical Editor of 
>>> Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at 
>>> http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free course 
>>> beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him know, 
>>> therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.
>>>
>>>All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable and 
>>> economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything mechanical, 
>>> but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When did 
>>> electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are not 
>>> that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars that will 
>>> beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal" cars 
>>> hence changing the Q.
>>>
>>> Russell
>>>
>>> Jim Hearne wrote:
>>>   
 I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement needs 
 cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the original.
 The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early diesel, 
 they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer they are.
 But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they should be 
 fairly simple to wire in.

 The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel pumps don't 
 like sucking up air.

 The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally doesn't have 
 an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad and 
 intercooler from a Escort RST.

 Jim


 russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk 
  wrote:
   
 
> I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to convert
> the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group with
> regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go turbo or
> non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH box
> will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
> originally.
>
> I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
> engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.
>
> As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
> live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs and a
> similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.
>
> When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to go in
> to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even write a
> magazine article.
>
> Any information gratefully received.
>
> Russell
> 
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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Matthew Wastell]

Do diesels need some kind of swirl pot or change of fuel tank?

Matthew



On 9 Sep 2009, at 08:29, Jim Hearne  wrote:

> I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few  
> Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and changed a  
> gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
> The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical  
> operation, neither had a ECU
> So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery  
> feed plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
> The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to connect  
> into the Quantum loom.
> Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu  
> loom are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should  
> just come down to the same few wires.
> I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.
>
> I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can  
> get a complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5  
> gearbox  (which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom  
> and all the other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might  
> not get if you just bought an engine off ebay.
>
> You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with  
> the Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses  
> (you can fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the  
> Zetec.)
>
> Jim
>
> Russell Willcox wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jim,
>>Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the  
>> simpler the
>> better as this usually means lower repair costs and less failures.  
>> I am
>> attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical  
>> Editor of
>> Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at
>> http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free course
>> beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him know,
>> therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.
>>
>>All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable and
>> economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything  
>> mechanical,
>> but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When did
>> electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are not
>> that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars that  
>> will
>> beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal"  
>> cars
>> hence changing the Q.
>>
>> Russell
>>
>> Jim Hearne wrote:
>>
>>> I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement needs
>>> cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the  
>>> original.
>>> The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early  
>>> diesel,
>>> they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer they  
>>> are.
>>> But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they  
>>> should be
>>> fairly simple to wire in.
>>>
>>> The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel pumps  
>>> don't
>>> like sucking up air.
>>>
>>> The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally doesn't  
>>> have
>>> an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad and
>>> intercooler from a Escort RST.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
>>>
>>>
 I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to  
 convert
 the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group  
 with
 regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go  
 turbo or
 non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH  
 box
 will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
 originally.

 I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
 engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.

 As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
 live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs  
 and a
 similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.

 When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to  
 go in
 to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even  
 write a
 magazine article.

 Any information gratefully received.

 Russell




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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Jim Hearne]

I'm not a diesel expert, i've just seen in the engine bay of a few
Diesel Q's, owned a Diesel Mk3 Fiesta for a year or so and changed a
gearbox in a Mk5 Diesel Escort Van.
The Fiesta and pretty sure the Escort were pretty much mechanical
operation, neither had a ECU
So the wiring is as you mentioned, an ignition feed and a battery feed
plus a little wiring for the glow plug warning light.
The engine wiring was a separate loom so wouldn't be hard to connect
into the Quantum loom.
Even if you went for a later engine with a ecu the engine and ecu loom
are likely to be separate from the main car loom and should just come
down to the same few wires.
I'm happy to advise on the electrics when the time comes.

I would think a late Mk3 Fiesta would be the best bet, if you can get a
complete accident damaged car then you get the stronger IB5 gearbox 
(which will still fit into your Quantum), the wiring loom and all the
other bits  and bobs that come in handy that you might not get if you
just bought an engine off ebay.

You will have to cut n shut the exhaust downpipe to match up with the
Saloon system and probably play round with the front rad hoses (you can
fit a Mk3 Fiesta rad in a saloon, mine has it with the Zetec.)

Jim

Russell Willcox wrote:

  Thanks Jim,
   Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the simpler the 
better as this usually means lower repair costs and less failures. I am 
attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical Editor of 
Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at 
http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free course 
beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him know, 
therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.

   All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable and 
economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything mechanical, 
but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When did 
electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are not 
that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars that will 
beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal" cars 
hence changing the Q.

Russell

Jim Hearne wrote:
  
  
I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement needs 
cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the original.
The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early diesel, 
they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer they are.
But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they should be 
fairly simple to wire in.

The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel pumps don't 
like sucking up air.

The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally doesn't have 
an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad and 
intercooler from a Escort RST.

Jim


russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
  


  I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to convert
the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group with
regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go turbo or
non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH box
will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
originally.

I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.

As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs and a
similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.

When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to go in
to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even write a
magazine article.

Any information gratefully received.

Russell

  

  



  



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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Russell Willcox]

Thanks Jim,
   Your input is always greatly received. I am going for the simpler the 
better as this usually means lower repair costs and less failures. I am 
attending a GRP course presented by John Dickens the Technical Editor of 
Complete Kitcar Magazine in South Shields, details at 
http://www.ecfibreglasssupplies.co.uk/store/ this is a free course 
beginning in early October, so if anybody wants to go let him know, 
therefore hopefully the GRP side will not be an issue.

   All I want is a car that I can use everyday, that is reliable and 
economical and does not rust. I am pretty good with anything mechanical, 
but electrics are my downfall, hence keeping things simple. When did 
electronics start to play a bigger part? Speed and 0-60 times are not 
that important, I have a motorbike and there are not many cars that will 
beat that in these stakes, however I do not like driving "normal" cars 
hence changing the Q.

Russell

Jim Hearne wrote:
> I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement needs 
> cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the original.
> The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early diesel, 
> they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer they are.
> But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they should be 
> fairly simple to wire in.
>
> The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel pumps don't 
> like sucking up air.
>
> The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally doesn't have 
> an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad and 
> intercooler from a Escort RST.
>
> Jim
>
>
> russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
>   
>> I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to convert
>> the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group with
>> regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go turbo or
>> non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH box
>> will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
>> originally.
>>
>> I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
>> engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.
>>
>> As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
>> live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs and a
>> similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.
>>
>> When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to go in
>> to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even write a
>> magazine article.
>>
>> Any information gratefully received.
>>
>> Russell
>> 
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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Jim Hearne]

I believe part off the drivers side engine bay reinforcement needs 
cutting away and a replacement created higher or lower than the original.
The electrics are pretty much as you suggest if you get a early diesel, 
they get increasingly more electronics (and power) the newer they are.
But until you get to ecus with the PATS anti theft system they should be 
fairly simple to wire in.

The Diesel fuel tank may have a swirl pot in as diesel fuel pumps don't 
like sucking up air.

The turbo diesel would certainly be recommend, it normally doesn't have 
an intercooler but is usually fitting in the Quantums with a rad and 
intercooler from a Escort RST.

Jim


russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
> I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to convert
> the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group with
> regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go turbo or
> non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH box
> will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
> originally.
>
> I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
> engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.
>
> As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
> live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs and a
> similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.
>
> When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to go in
> to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even write a
> magazine article.
>
> Any information gratefully received.
>
> Russell
> >
>
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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[Russell Willcox]

John,
Thanks for your reply it is the only one on the subject of diesel 
power so far. One thing of interest to me would be the connections to 
the car. As my car is currently XR2 based it has fuel supply/return, 
vacuum pipes going everywhere, choke cable, accelerator, plus of course 
the ignition system. I am guessing that diesel still has the 
supply/return for fuel, a power supply to the heater plugs and a cutoff 
to the fuel pump. I suppose what I am asking is if there is anything 
additional to what I already have.

Russell

John Woodward wrote:
> My Turbo Diesel 2+2 does approx 60 MPG on long runs, 57 MPG for normal
> short commuting runs & 54 MPG if really pushed hard, performance is OK
> but is not brilliant on acceleration (about equal to a Vauxhall Combo
> 1.3 cdti van), but once it's going its not too bad & cross country
> times are fine, the 1.8 non turbo is very slow in comparison ( I once
> had a Fiesta 1.8 van), the 2 Q owners I know  with non turbo diesels
> saloons, both reckon on 58/60 MPG, so I would advise the Turbo as it
> does not use any more fuel & gives a fair performance.
>
> I've no idea what mods have to be done to the engine bay, but I'm sure
> someone can help. If you need any images of the Turbo etc. just let me
> know.
>
> John
>
> On 7 Sep, 10:04, "darren siepka"  wrote:
>   
>> Cannot comment on the diesel side of things but you won't regret the
>> time taken to fit the EPAS system. I have the mgtf system in my coupe
>> and it is excellent. I have a switch to turn it off if I ever felt the
>> need(I don't think so some how!). TBH it is actually lighter than the
>> steering on my fathers 300 merc!!!
>> there are piccys in the files section of the google group
>>
>> Darren
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> russ...@quantum54.freeserve.co.uk
>> Sent: 06 September 2009 15:55
>> To: Quantum Owners Group
>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] To Turbo or not
>>
>> I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to convert
>> the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group with
>> regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go turbo or
>> non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH box
>> will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
>> originally.
>>
>> I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
>> engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.
>>
>> As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
>> live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs and a
>> similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.
>>
>> When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to go in
>> to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even write a
>> magazine article.
>>
>> Any information gratefully received.
>>
>> Russell
>>
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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[John Woodward]

My Turbo Diesel 2+2 does approx 60 MPG on long runs, 57 MPG for normal
short commuting runs & 54 MPG if really pushed hard, performance is OK
but is not brilliant on acceleration (about equal to a Vauxhall Combo
1.3 cdti van), but once it's going its not too bad & cross country
times are fine, the 1.8 non turbo is very slow in comparison ( I once
had a Fiesta 1.8 van), the 2 Q owners I know  with non turbo diesels
saloons, both reckon on 58/60 MPG, so I would advise the Turbo as it
does not use any more fuel & gives a fair performance.

I've no idea what mods have to be done to the engine bay, but I'm sure
someone can help. If you need any images of the Turbo etc. just let me
know.

John

On 7 Sep, 10:04, "darren siepka"  wrote:
> Cannot comment on the diesel side of things but you won't regret the
> time taken to fit the EPAS system. I have the mgtf system in my coupe
> and it is excellent. I have a switch to turn it off if I ever felt the
> need(I don't think so some how!). TBH it is actually lighter than the
> steering on my fathers 300 merc!!!
> there are piccys in the files section of the google group
>
> Darren
>
>
>
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> Subject: [Quantum Owners] To Turbo or not
>
> I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to convert
> the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group with
> regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go turbo or
> non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH box
> will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
> originally.
>
> I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
> engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.
>
> As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
> live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs and a
> similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.
>
> When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to go in
> to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even write a
> magazine article.
>
> Any information gratefully received.
>
> Russell
>
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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[darren siepka]

Cannot comment on the diesel side of things but you won't regret the
time taken to fit the EPAS system. I have the mgtf system in my coupe
and it is excellent. I have a switch to turn it off if I ever felt the
need(I don't think so some how!). TBH it is actually lighter than the
steering on my fathers 300 merc!!! 
there are piccys in the files section of the google group

Darren

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Sent: 06 September 2009 15:55
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] To Turbo or not


I have decided, as my daily driver does not have long left to convert
the coupe to diesel. I have read other information on the group with
regards to doing this but was wondering if it is better to go turbo or
non turbo. I am going to go the Endura route as I believe the CVH box
will go straight on if the engine I get does not have the same box
originally.

I read briefly about a slight modification being necessary in the
engine bay. Could somebody expand on this a little.

As the car is currently XR2 based I am guessing that I will need a
live feed from the ignition along with relay for the glowplugs and a
similar feed for the fuel pump shut off.

When I do this I also have an electric power steering column to go in
to make the car a bit easier to park, so hopefully I may even write a
magazine article.

Any information gratefully received.

Russell

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[Quantum Owners] Re: To Turbo or not

[MichaelHughes7A]

There have been quite a few diesels and a few less turbo diesels in Quantum 
 coupes and 2+2s
 
The 1.8 n/a diesel being larger than the 1.6 cvh needed to have part of the 
 engine compartment ground away to enable it to fit.
 
To my mind there is no contest between the turbo version and the n/a - the  
turbo gives a much better drive.
 
However it may be that cost and complexity are the foremost issues in which 
 case the naturally aspirated engine can deliver excellent fuel economy but 
the  driver might need more patience from time to time.
 
Diesels have more powerful starter motors and thus require bigger capacity  
batteries and you might need a more powerful alternator.  Turbochargers  
have long lives but they do wear over time so if you are buying second hand  
avoid those with unknown histories in favour of genuine low mileage or  
completely reconditioned units.
 
Although my experience of diesels extends over 20 years or so I must admit  
that I feel that there is still a good case to be made for using lpg  
instead.  Within the club there have been examples of lpg conversions on  
coupes, 
2+2's and an H4.  Worth thinking about before setting to work on a  diesel 
conversion.
 
Michael

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