Re: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness

2012-10-18 Thread Jim Hearne

First thing, do the Hazards work correctly when the indicators don't.
Press the hazard switch on/off a dozen times and then try the indicators, 
the connections for the indicators go through the hazard switch.


Jim


-Original Message- 
From: MatthewG

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:13 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness

Hi all,

My Q has recently developed an odd fault where the indicator doesn't
do anything for the first ten miles of a journey. The stalk still
works to control full beam but the indicators don't respond to it
until the engine is completely warmed up. I'm therefore guessing that
perhaps something somewhere is responding to heat and comes back to
life once it's warm. I don't yet know if it's a fault with the stalk
or something else. I'm not in the same league of troubleshooting
experts as the rest of you so I thought it sensible to ask here if
anyone else has experienced this before I start taking things apart.
Any advice gratefully received.

Matthew
Q2-275

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness

2012-10-18 Thread Chris Young
good point - on mine the hazard switch has gone a bit dodgy and has to
be held  down a couple mm left the hazards not on and the indicators
not working either.

if the hazards don't work I would hazard, hey hey,  a guess that the
relay may be bust - I believe they contain a bimetallic strip of sorts
which uses heat to create the flash.

cheers

Chris

On 18 October 2012 13:28, Jim Hearne j...@quantums.info wrote:
 First thing, do the Hazards work correctly when the indicators don't.
 Press the hazard switch on/off a dozen times and then try the indicators,
 the connections for the indicators go through the hazard switch.

 Jim


 -Original Message- From: MatthewG
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:13 PM
 To: Quantum Owners Group
 Subject: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness


 Hi all,

 My Q has recently developed an odd fault where the indicator doesn't
 do anything for the first ten miles of a journey. The stalk still
 works to control full beam but the indicators don't respond to it
 until the engine is completely warmed up. I'm therefore guessing that
 perhaps something somewhere is responding to heat and comes back to
 life once it's warm. I don't yet know if it's a fault with the stalk
 or something else. I'm not in the same league of troubleshooting
 experts as the rest of you so I thought it sensible to ask here if
 anyone else has experienced this before I start taking things apart.
 Any advice gratefully received.

 Matthew
 Q2-275

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness

2012-10-18 Thread Chris Young
to be clear

the hazard switch has to be held down.

if it is up even 1 or 2  mm leaves both the hazard off and the
indicators not working.

on mine the plastic where there is a little metal hook has worn so it
lets the switch raise up a mm. I have to wedge it down with a bit of
matchstick.



On 18 October 2012 13:52, Chris Young chris.young...@gmail.com wrote:
 good point - on mine the hazard switch has gone a bit dodgy and has to
 be held  down a couple mm left the hazards not on and the indicators
 not working either.

 if the hazards don't work I would hazard, hey hey,  a guess that the
 relay may be bust - I believe they contain a bimetallic strip of sorts
 which uses heat to create the flash.

 cheers

 Chris

 On 18 October 2012 13:28, Jim Hearne j...@quantums.info wrote:
 First thing, do the Hazards work correctly when the indicators don't.
 Press the hazard switch on/off a dozen times and then try the indicators,
 the connections for the indicators go through the hazard switch.

 Jim


 -Original Message- From: MatthewG
 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:13 PM
 To: Quantum Owners Group
 Subject: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness


 Hi all,

 My Q has recently developed an odd fault where the indicator doesn't
 do anything for the first ten miles of a journey. The stalk still
 works to control full beam but the indicators don't respond to it
 until the engine is completely warmed up. I'm therefore guessing that
 perhaps something somewhere is responding to heat and comes back to
 life once it's warm. I don't yet know if it's a fault with the stalk
 or something else. I'm not in the same league of troubleshooting
 experts as the rest of you so I thought it sensible to ask here if
 anyone else has experienced this before I start taking things apart.
 Any advice gratefully received.

 Matthew
 Q2-275

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Re: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness

2012-10-18 Thread Matthew Wastell
My guess, either the flasher relay or stalk. 

The hazards may use the same relay so check the hazards at cold. If they work 
then it's at least not the relay and I'd then check inductor stalk by shorting 
the need connections. If the hazards dont work I would change the relay / check 
the contacts for corrosion. The relays are in the footwell so get a nice blast 
of heat from the cabin heater. 

Someone will be along shortly to say there are two relays so my test won't work 
;-)

M





On 18 Oct 2012, at 13:13, MatthewG mgas...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 My Q has recently developed an odd fault where the indicator doesn't
 do anything for the first ten miles of a journey. The stalk still
 works to control full beam but the indicators don't respond to it
 until the engine is completely warmed up. I'm therefore guessing that
 perhaps something somewhere is responding to heat and comes back to
 life once it's warm. I don't yet know if it's a fault with the stalk
 or something else. I'm not in the same league of troubleshooting
 experts as the rest of you so I thought it sensible to ask here if
 anyone else has experienced this before I start taking things apart.
 Any advice gratefully received.
 
 Matthew
 Q2-275
 
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Indicator oddness

2012-10-18 Thread Matthew Wastell
And of course check hazard switch as indicators route through there normally. 

On 18 Oct 2012, at 14:06, Matthew Wastell matt...@wastell.eu wrote:

 My guess, either the flasher relay or stalk. 
 
 The hazards may use the same relay so check the hazards at cold. If they work 
 then it's at least not the relay and I'd then check inductor stalk by 
 shorting the need connections. If the hazards dont work I would change the 
 relay / check the contacts for corrosion. The relays are in the footwell so 
 get a nice blast of heat from the cabin heater. 
 
 Someone will be along shortly to say there are two relays so my test won't 
 work ;-)
 
 M
 
 
 
 
 
 On 18 Oct 2012, at 13:13, MatthewG mgas...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 My Q has recently developed an odd fault where the indicator doesn't
 do anything for the first ten miles of a journey. The stalk still
 works to control full beam but the indicators don't respond to it
 until the engine is completely warmed up. I'm therefore guessing that
 perhaps something somewhere is responding to heat and comes back to
 life once it's warm. I don't yet know if it's a fault with the stalk
 or something else. I'm not in the same league of troubleshooting
 experts as the rest of you so I thought it sensible to ask here if
 anyone else has experienced this before I start taking things apart.
 Any advice gratefully received.
 
 Matthew
 Q2-275
 
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