Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools

[Drew White]

On Thursday, 29 September 2016 19:40:12 UTC+10, Achim Patzner  wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 September 2016 04:05:41 UTC+10, Achim Patzner  wrote:
> >> Which part of "we don't provide signed drivers so if you want to run
> >> them you have to turn that requirement off" needs a developer to make
> >> you understand it and what kind of LART do you expect said developer to
> >> use for beating some sense into you? It's clear, it's precise and unless
> >> you need a translation into another language there is not much anyone
> >> could do for you. Please keep the developers doing something more
> >> important than correcting your refusal to accept facts.
> > but I wanted a technical explanation
> 
> No, you -- being a non-paying end-user; I've yet to see any worthwhile
> contribution from you -- _demanded_ (in a quite untoward manner an
> explanation from a "developer". Sorry. I guess even if said developer
> tried explaininig to you why he does not apply for a valid code
> signature certificate you would continue ranting.
> 

Well, how am I to make a worthwhile contribution when there are so many bugs 
and I provide details to get them fixed but they are ignored because everyone 
causes them to get lost in an array of insults towards me and bad information 
thrown around confusing my good data in the mix?

> What about remoiving Qubes and install a nice Ubuntu or Mint on your
> machine and be happy about your life?
> 

No thanks, I don't use end-user only operating systems.


> > As I said in a recent post, which may be worth you reading that sentence 
> > that also relates here.
> 
> None of your posts have ever been worth reading so please forgive the
> ret of the world not having read most of them.

Maybe they weren't worth reading because your IQ is too low to understand them?
Or maybe the fact is that you read people attacking me for no reason, and you 
take heir side because you don't want to be the odd one out even though I'm 
right, and taking a stand, and providing good information and asking the right 
questions and being misunderstood, and none but the devs actually understand 
most of the time?

There are a few in the users forum here that do understand and actually try to 
help after actually reading the questions and information. Most people skim 
over it and interpret what isn't meant to be interpreted, and thus come out 
with thoughts and details that are completely the opposite of what I was 
saying/asking.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools

[Drew White]

On Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:03:45 UTC+10, entr0py  wrote:

> It gives me no pleasure (well...) to gang up on a guy who obviously doesn't 
> have the slightest notion of what it means to possess even a modicum of 
> social grace. But in the absence of a downvote button, how else do you voice 
> your disapproval of a community member that is as ignorant as he is arrogant 
> and who repeatedly insults fellow users that try to help? 

Well, I did not intentionally insult the person who first answered my questions 
at the start of my response. 
All he did was give me links that I had already read, that are the first things 
I go to before I speak here.

My entire post was directed at devs, so posted towards the devs, but posted 
here in users to allow others with the knowledge to provide an answer as well 
if they had the answer.

 
> [BTW, it's all Marek's fault for having the extraordinary patience to indulge 
> this buffoon with a straight face.]
> 

Marek's one of the very few people that have ever taken the time to actually 
read what I write and give me a solid answer to what I ask.
I have great respect for that man.






> 
> You should have stuck to Edition and just said, "Thanks for the answer", 
> because now you look like a bigger idiot than when you began. A Windows 
> version/build/release is just a collection of installed updates. That means 
> that whatever version you install changes the moment you update it. Did you 
> expect the devs to test every possible combination of Windows updates? Or to 
> test a buggy old release?
>  

IF you had READ what I wrote, you would have seen me say that I did appreciate 
it. Maybe you missed that bit?

Well, you do know what the version is. At least you can tell the difference 
between version and edition. That puts you one step higher than most of the 
other people here.

I do not expect them to have done that, but if they said it needs at least 
version 1.6.7601, then I would have said "ok thanks", or else they could have 
said they need version X of this and Y of that and A of the other... And listed 
that they need specific things for the tools to work correctly.





> 
> Perfectly. Drew, thank you for refining your initial question to make it more 
> "technical". 
> Because now, the answer is... 
> EXACTLY THE SAME as the one Foppe gave you at the outset. 

Nope, that is not the answer, and doesn't answer the question.
If it does and I have misunderstood, then please, explain.



> 
> My bad, here's the technical version coming from an end-user: RTFM. (The 
> answer starts with R- and ends with -PM.) I know it's hard to believe but, 
> #IAmNotADev.
> 

You may not be a dev, but you have the technical knowledge to know more than 
the end-users that don't know enough to answer the question(s)


> Oh, you wanted a specific answer... Well, if you're performing a Gaussian 
> Blur on a 16 megapixel photo of Donald Trump eating a Taco using Photoshop, 
> then you need 3,824,110,293 bytes of RAM and 2 cores. On the other hand, if 
> you're playing Minesweeper while eating a taco yourself, then the requirement 
> changes to 2,015,289,787 bytes of RAM and 1.42 cores.
> 
> And now... in the #DevFetish + #LeaveMarekAlone category:

That doesn't answer my question. That isn't Qubes Windows Tools, that's 
different applications.

Here I was thinking you had brains and you were even starting to gain my 
respect, but now you say this and become so stupid I have to say, you are just 
trolling me, and you have entered into the realm of Jeremy Rand, the person on 
this forum that blocked me because I was right and he was wrong and he keeps 
trying to make me look bad and say bad things just to defame me and troll me. 
Which I was sick of, so I made him block me, so, now, please, do the same thing.






> 
> You're too modest. You make people's heads explode with your mastery of 
> complex subjects - for fun!
No, not at all, it just turns out that way sometimes.


> Just including some highlights so Jeremy doesn't feel like he's missing out.
lol, you provide stuff for the troll?

> And a rhetorical question: What happens if /dev/null overflows?
That's just like "How much food do I have to eat before I am full?"


> [I don't usually sign my posts, but this one...]





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[qubes-users] Issues with Qubes 3.2 interface

[katerimmel]

Hello
After upgrading to 3.2 I noticed some features that I don't like.

1)I want to select the VPNs that I saved in network manager but the
windows where there is the list go out of screen and I don't see them

2)Message like (when VPN connect, when start a VM..) appear only one time,
then disappear

3)Every time that start a VM shows up this message: Error starting VM
.: integer division or modulo by zero (the VM works the same)

Regards

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[qubes-users] Failed to add USB controller to App VM

[neilhardley]

I am using Qubes 3.2 rc2

I need to use an external USB WiFI device.

I was told in a previous thread that I need to attach the entire USB 
controller, rather than just using qvm-usb -a

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/qubes-users/o8zUPDdA0Vs/8LkwfalPCAAJ;context-place=topic/qubes-users/o8zUPDdA0Vs

However, when I do this, I get the following error message:

"

Error starting VM 'anon-whonix': internal error: Unable to reset PCI device 
:00:14.0: no FLR, PM reset or bus reset available

"

What is the solution here..? I'm adding a USB controller to anon-whonix. Thanks.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 3.2 has been released!

[raahelps]

when doing in place upgrade from 3.1,  

I get failed: xen-runtime.x86_64 2001:4.6.1-20fc23

Also qubes-core-dom0 is 3.2.10 not 3.2.3  even after --clean option.

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Re: [qubes-users] sys-firewall no longer works after creating new Net VM

[Andrew David Wong]

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On 2016-09-29 11:00, neilhard...@gmail.com wrote:
> I created a new Net VM, in order to use Debian, and it works fine.
> 
> But now I want to revert back to sys-net.
> 
> The problem is that my sys-firewall no longer works.
> 
> How do I get sys-firewall to work again?
> 
> It starts up fine, but simply doesn't work. Other App VMs are not getting 
> data through it.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Double check the firewall settings for the AppVMs you're testing. They may be 
set to deny all network traffic.

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Re: [qubes-users] Set different NetVM for dom0

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On 2016-09-29 10:58, neilhard...@gmail.com wrote:
> How do I change the NetVM used by dom0..?
> 
> I have sys-firewall as does everyone.
> 
> But I actually set up a new NetVM a while back, and sys-firewall no longer 
> works for me.
> 
> Call it "NetVM2".
> 
> So I want to set the NetVM used by dom0 to "NetVM2", or whatever replace 
> "NetVM2" with the name of the NetVM.
> 
> Thanks.
> 

When you say "the NetVM used by dom0," do you mean the UpdateVM (the VM that 
downloads updates for dom0)?

Since dom0 has no networking, it doesn't really "have a NetVM."

You can change the UpdateVM in Qubes Manager: System -> Global settings -> 
UpdateVM

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Re: [qubes-users] Available memory

[yaqu]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 08:06:43 -0700 (PDT), raahe...@gmail.com wrote:

> ah yes xlinfo, i learned of this command when trying to find a way to
> show how much memory the system recognizes installed.

BTW you could also use dmidecode (in dom0):
$ sudo dmidecode|grep 'Range Size'

> In 3.0 all memory was loaded by dom0.  So I would just watch the
> qubes-manager and make sure missing memory from dom0 matched up to
> total of the vms.  But since 3.1 though dom0 is limited to 4gb so
> accounting for all the memory manually that way is not possible
> anymore.

If you need it, you can switch it back by removing dom0_mem parameters
from /etc/default/grub, rebuilding grub config:

$ sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.conf

and rebooting.

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[qubes-users] work for 20$

[neznaika]

I'm lost SO MANY time.. I'm tired from this  .. I need someone who can 
help me to install proprietary driver Nvidia+bumblebee. I have 20$.
facebook.com/rat.white.927

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[qubes-users] sys-firewall no longer works after creating new Net VM

[neilhardley]

I created a new Net VM, in order to use Debian, and it works fine.

But now I want to revert back to sys-net.

The problem is that my sys-firewall no longer works.

How do I get sys-firewall to work again?

It starts up fine, but simply doesn't work. Other App VMs are not getting data 
through it.

Thanks.

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[qubes-users] Set different NetVM for dom0

[neilhardley]

How do I change the NetVM used by dom0..?

I have sys-firewall as does everyone.

But I actually set up a new NetVM a while back, and sys-firewall no longer 
works for me.

Call it "NetVM2".

So I want to set the NetVM used by dom0 to "NetVM2", or whatever replace 
"NetVM2" with the name of the NetVM.

Thanks.

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Re: [qubes-users] Available memory

[raahelps]

ah yes xlinfo, i learned of this command when trying to find a way to show how 
much memory the system recognizes installed.

Its still confusing to me to figure  exactly how much ram i have available to 
use for vms. or if all memory is being given back when shutting things down.

In 3.0 all memory was loaded by dom0.  So I would just watch the qubes-manager 
and make sure missing memory from dom0 matched up to total of the vms.  But 
since 3.1 though dom0 is limited to 4gb so accounting for all the memory 
manually that way is not possible anymore.

I figure I need at least 1700mbs for dom0 before things start crashing and I 
just consider my available memory w/e is extra in dom0.

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Re: [qubes-users] Available memory

[raahelps]

On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:06:43 AM UTC-4, raah...@gmail.com wrote:
> ah yes xlinfo, i learned of this command when trying to find a way to show 
> how much memory the system recognizes installed.
> 
> Its still confusing to me to figure  exactly how much ram i have available to 
> use for vms. or if all memory is being given back when shutting things down.
> 
> In 3.0 all memory was loaded by dom0.  So I would just watch the 
> qubes-manager and make sure missing memory from dom0 matched up to total of 
> the vms.  But since 3.1 though dom0 is limited to 4gb so accounting for all 
> the memory manually that way is not possible anymore.
> 
> I figure I need at least 1700mbs for dom0 before things start crashing and I 
> just consider my available memory w/e is extra in dom0.

this because I don't have alot of ram and never have more then 4 available 
anyways.

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[qubes-users] Minor problems switching from KDE4 to Xfce

[Robert Mittendorf]

Hey there.

We have some issues using the new Xfce interface compared to KDE4. But 
most of us would actually prefer using Xfce for its simplicity.


1) "System Tools" includes some in-AppVM applications (I have a lot of 
shortcuts there, other coworkers  also have such entries, but only a few 
of them)


2) How can volume be controlled on a per-VM/Qube level as in KDE?

3) Is it possible to color the background of taskbar-items with the 
AppVM's color?


4) Can taskbar-items be grouped by AppVM ?

Most probably somebody already found out how to solve this, as Xfce is 
the new default DE?!



regards,

Robert Mittendorf

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 3.2 has been released!

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On 2016-09-29 06:42, Robert Mittendorf wrote:
> Nice!
> Btw: You did not update the "Download & Install" Button on the main page.
> 

Updated. Thanks!

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes OS 3.2 has been released!

[Robert Mittendorf]

Nice!
Btw: You did not update the "Download & Install" Button on the main page.


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Re: [qubes-users] backup

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On 2016-09-28 00:32, Gabriel wrote:
> On 2016-09-27 06:59, 'Gabriel' via qubes-users wrote:
>> 2. I tried running qvm-backup from the command line, which ran fine, no 
>> permission problems on the same HDD. However, the template VMs are not 
>> included by default and I saw no command-line option to automatically 
>> achieve this. Am I missing something here?
>>
> 
>> The RPM-managed TemplateVMs should normally not be backed up. Instead, you 
>> should clone them (if you can spare the drive space), make your 
>> customizations, then back up the clones.
> Does this imply the AppVMs should be based upon the cloned VMs?
> 

Correct.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Thunderbird: "Open link in DispVM"

[Robert Mittendorf]

It seems like this issue was fixed in current 3.2 testing build. I can 
open more than 1 url at a time from Thunderbird now.


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Outdated documentation

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On 2016-09-29 06:21, Jon Solworth wrote:
> Another documentation issue:
> 
> On the qubes i3 page, https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/i3/
> the Configuration at the bottom of the page is unnecessary.
> i3-settings-qubes package does those steps automatically.
> 
> Suggestion is to get rid of that section altogether.
> 

Updated. Thanks.

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[qubes-users] Re: Outdated documentation

[Jon Solworth]

Another documentation issue:

On the qubes i3 page, https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/i3/
the Configuration at the bottom of the page is unnecessary.
i3-settings-qubes package does those steps automatically.

Suggestion is to get rid of that section altogether.

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[qubes-users] qvm-usb UI

[Achim Patzner]

Hi!


Maybe it's just me but I would expect the qvm-usb command to list the
USB devices of this command... sub-optimal (see
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/usb/ or try it yourself). Is there a good
reason why dom0 isn't getting (and showing) the full output of lsusb (of
the USB qube) but to display lines like

|sys-usb:2-4 04ca:300d 04ca_300d instead? As I've got a number of very
exotic things on my hubs I'd rather like to see something that tells me
what it is instead of providing vendor and product IDs. And as I'm sure
I didn't invent the wheel myself I'm feeling confident that Marek had a
good reason not to add that little bit of usability to the tool so what
is the hidden cost of asking the sources of the USB devices for the
output of lsusb and displaying it in dom0 (which is what I'm really
curious about)? Achim |

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[qubes-users] Qubes OS 3.2 has been released!

[Joanna Rutkowska]

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Hello,

We have just released Qubes OS 3.2:
https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/09/29/qubes-32/

Enjoy!
joanna.
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools

[Achim Patzner]

Am 29.09.2016 um 09:41 schrieb Dave Ewart:
> If you have some unusual definition of 'version' then you should explain
> what that definition is.  Shouting at people - expecting them to
> understand you - won't help.

Didn't someone read you some classics when you were a child?

Carrol, Lewis, "Through The Looking-Glass":

'Some people,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking away from her as usual, 'have
no more sense than a baby!'
[...]
'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't  till I tell
you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it
means just what I choose it to mean  neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many
different things.'
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master, that's all.'

> You need to *ask a better question* rather than insulting the person
> answering.

"All the King's horses and all the King's men..."

Could we agree on not feeding the troll (excuse me, egg) any more? It's
like mud wrestling with a pig; the animal will like it and all you will
ever get is dirty. Treat it like the tree having a dog urinating on its
roots: Grow from it and just wait; the dog will die a lot earlier than
you so the problem will solve itself sooner or later.


Achim


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[qubes-users] 3.2rc3 install on btrfs

[johnyjukya]

Finally got around to doing a fresh install of Qubes 3.2rc3 on a btrfs root.

It's quite wonderful, being able to clone a template or an AppVM
instantly, taking no additional disk space except for changes.

However, after the initial install, I had sys-net, sys-firewall and had to
create them manually.  Wasn't a particularly big deal, but could stump or
turn off a newbie.

Also, none of the appmenu shortcuts from the debian, fedora, whonix
templates showed up, until I manually forced it from dom0.

I didn't see anything obvious in the anaconda or qubes logs.

Any suggestions of where I might look for what went wrong?  At what point
in the install should sys-net/sys-firewall and the syncing of appmenu
shortcuts have taken place?

Thanks

JJ

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools

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On Wednesday, 28.09.2016 at 17:53 -0700, Drew White wrote:

> > > > > I would like to know from a dev what the requirements are for
> > > > > Qubes Windows Tools (QWT).
> > > > > 
> > > > > All O/S reference are known to be x86_64.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does QWT require any specific version of Windows 7?  Or will
> > > > > they work with all versions of Windows 7?
> > > > covered here: all.
> > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-tools-3/
> > > 
> > > Doesn't even BEGIN to answer the question.
> > 
> > It *completely* answers your question.  In the first line: "Only
> > 64-bit Windows 7 (any edition) is supported".  So you need Windows 7
> > 64-bit, but the edition doesn't matter (e.g. Home, Enterprise,
> > whatever).
> 
> I said VERSION, not EDITION.

There is no commonly-accepted definition of 'version' with regard to
Windows, only "64-bit v 32-bit" and the Edition.

If you have some unusual definition of 'version' then you should explain
what that definition is.  Shouting at people - expecting them to
understand you - won't help.

You need to *ask a better question* rather than insulting the person
answering.

(etc.)

Dave.

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Re: [qubes-users] Available memory

[York Keyser]

Hi,

I'm answering my question by myself because I think I found a solution 
for my question. The command "xl info" show at least the virtual memory, 
but I think it would be a nice thing at the Qubes VM Manager to show the 
hardware info global wide ;)


Regards York


On 09/28/2016 06:06 PM, York Keyser wrote:


Hi group,

I have a short, maybe stupid question, where or how can I see the 
available memory. Not the memory of each VM I need to know how much 
memory is availably global wide. (Short-term and Long-term memory)


Regards York

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