[qubes-users] Re: Dell XPS 9560 4k resolution issues

2017-07-01 Thread randy
On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 12:02:46 PM UTC+2, David Nogueira wrote:
> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 10:37:58 AM UTC+1, randy march wrote:
> > I have the same notebook like you.
> > I simply go to system tools - display and change resolution to 1920x1080.
> > 
> > But I would like to have a 4k resolution with scaled everything...
> > 
> > how can you do this?
> > 
> > 
> > will qubes 4.0 solve this issue?
> 
> Hi Randy,
> 
> I only have one resolution showing, and that is what I am trying to change. 
> Does your brightness control work?
> 
> What versions of Qubes do you have? and which kernel? Also which kernel 
> options?
> 
> I believe I read somewhere HiDPI will be better supported in 4.0
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> David

my brightness control and everything else works.
I installed the latest version of qubes with the standard configuration.

the only think I changed was the wlan card cause the broadcom wlan card does 
not work with qubes.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread yreb-qusw

On 07/01/2017 02:46 PM, Unman wrote:

On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:49:59PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:

On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote:

Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong -
Windows wont boot and you will see an error message.
From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2.
In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be
referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2.
Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if
the first fails, reboot and choose the second.




I'd be happy to  if I had a clue  what that means   like  what ?



menuentry "Windows" {
 insmod part_msdos
 insmod ntldr
 insmod ntfs
 ntldr (hd0,msdos1)/bootmgr
}


menuentry "Windows" {
 insmod part_msdos
 insmod ntldr
 insmod ntfs
 ntldr (hd1,1)/bootmgr
}



Again, lets say it might be hd0  it might be hd1  , it might be partition
msdos1 msdos2   or ? should it just be labeled  1  or  2

then I would put in 4 entries or reboot and just keep guessing on the format



No need to guess:
grub references disks numbering from 0
grub references partitions numbering from 1

So the first partition on the first disk would be hd0,msdos1. (also
hd0,1 - doesn't matter)
The third partition on a second disk would be hd1,msdos3

So now you can create two menu entries, one for each partition: Give them
different names - like this -  menuentry "Windows msdos1"





PS:  What is supposed to happen ?  Where and When am I to make the choice to
boot the win10  vs Qubes .


When you start the machine you will see the grub menu - It should
contain a menu (obviously) with entries for Qubes, and the two entries
you have just created.
You can press up and down keys to move up and down the entries -
Pressing enter will try to boot with the highlighted entry.
(There are instructions under the menu)



And when one does :

sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

Should one be seeing something lie  'found windows .img" image  or  does 
it matter ?


I'm seeing nothing when I run grub2-mkconfig  and also nothing

with any of my entries  at boot  using  both  suggested  versions  of 
the 'entry/stanza's'   in /etc/grub.d/40_custom



I'm sort of doubting its supposed to be  /etc/grub.d/40_custom,   with 
the  comma  at the end, and the docs  have a typo ?


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Re: [qubes-users] Help :: Disposable VMs start without a NetVM (can't use DVMs currently )

2017-07-01 Thread Unman
On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 01:08:44AM +0200, 'P R' via qubes-users wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have spend several hours to built new Template VMs from scratch (more
> precise: the fedora-24-minimal templates).
> 
> Now I have the problem, that my new disposable VMs all start without an
> attaches Net-VM.
> 
> sys-usb, sys-firewall, sys-net are now all based on the fedora-24-minimal
> template, with some additional packages, as suggested in the documentation.
> 
> I have also built a new dvm which is based on the fedora-24 template:
> 
> My default fedora-24 template is named "my-fedora-24-apps" and is a Template
> VM without a NetVM attached.
> 
> I created a new dvm in dom0:
> 
> [user@dom0 ~] qvm-create-default-dvm my-fedora-24-apps
> 
> In preferences of the new dvm template which is named
> "my-fedora-24-apps-dvm" I have attached  the firewall Proxy VM as NetVM.
> 
> But when I launch a program in the disposable VM there is no Net-VM
> attached.
> I have also set the "NetVM for DispVM" unter "Other" in the "Advanced"
> Settings Tab of Qubes Manager for the dvm template to sys-firewall.
> 
> Still all my disposable AppVM start with an empty NetVM.
> If I edit a disposable App VM and add the sys-firewall as NetVM, everything
> works fine.
> 
> 
> QUESTION:
> Where and how am I supposed to set the correct information which NetVM
> should be used for my DVMs?
> 
> - P R

The "netVM for dispVM" entry sets the netVM for disposableVMs started
from that qube.

You haven't said HOW you are "launching a program".
If you start it from the Qubes Menu then it will (should) honour the
setting for the dvmTemplate, and so in your case start a disposableVM
attached to the firewall.
If you are starting a disposableVM from a qube (by e.g "open in
disposable VM") then THAT disposableVM will be connected to whatever the
entry for "NetVM for dispVM" says for that qube.

I find it easier to check from dom0 terminal, using qvm-prefs ,
and to set the relevant values using 'qvm-prefs  -s dispvm_netvm '

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Best Laptop For Qubes

2017-07-01 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 2:19:53 AM UTC-4, tai...@gmx.com wrote:
> On 06/28/2017 09:57 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 2:39:19 PM UTC-4, tai...@gmx.com wrote:
> >> On 06/27/2017 10:20 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> >>
> >>> its common sense to me man. Server boards are designed for servers.  I 
> >>> gave some tips on how to get something compatible which I think is 
> >>> priority.  Another one is to research the board on linux forums and see 
> >>> if its used alot or not or if it has problems.
> >> "Designed for servers" The IC's are identical to their desktop
> >> counterparts, just with different features burned in.
> >>
> >> I want you to explain to me what makes a desktop board and CPU different
> >> from a "server" board and CPU, real technical differences not marketing.
> >>>Its like wanting to use centos as a gaming os.  is it possible?  
> >>> probably, anything is possible,  but is it practical?
> >> CentOS and fedora are literally the same thing, what do you think makes
> >> them different?
> >>> But Jean brings up good points whats "best" is subjective.
> >>>
> >>>But I have to say talking someone out of buying Purism that supports 
> >>> Qubes and free hardware like you want, calling it overpriced, and then 
> >>> recommending expensive as hell server boards and 100 dollar keyboards as 
> >>> a little strange.  I mean you balked first.
> >>>
> >> For the last time, purism is NOT free hardware.
> >> Whats free about it? Why don't you explain that to me.
> >>
> >> I paid $500 total for my setup including the $300 motherboard and I have
> >> actual free firmware, $80 more gets me a great keyboard that lasts 30
> >> years - compared to that a 2K quanta rebrand is simply overpriced.
> > i only saw it for 475 just the motherboard alone, and I presum 
> > compatibility problems with it just cause its not a popular board.  100% 
> > libre is nice and all but so is being part of society lol.   can you link 
> > me cheaper deals? lol  100 dollars for that keyboard.
> The KCMA-D8 MSRP is $315, and the KGPE-D16 is $415 (available on newegg) 
> - I can't understand as to why you want to convince people to buy a 2K 
> laptop but $500 for a legitimately free system is considered too much money.
> Boards don't have "compatibility issues", chipsets do.. The firmware 
> configures reference tables like SRAT/SLIT/IRVS etc but it shouldn't be 
> present or doing anything once you're in an OS. The chipset in that is 
> physically identical to the one in an AM3+ board you've probably had at 
> some point so it is quite popular. Irregardless I have tested it and it 
> works great.
> 
> AMD has released a decent amount of documentation on their pre-2013 
> systems, and it is enough to make firmware ports - they have also 
> donated time and resources to the coreboot project which makes them a 
> company worthy of respect - we can only hope they continue with that for 
> zen.
> 
> The average keyboard costs $30 but it only lasts 3 years or less if like 
> to eat/drink at your desk, and $80 is actually a pretty good deal for 
> what it is - most mechanical keyboards are $200+. once you type on one 
> you can't go back.

sure 500 dollars would be a great deal for a whole system, but you are just 
talking about the motherboard and keyboard for 500.  seems expensive, 
especially since you complain about the price of purism.

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[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread cooloutac
On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 2:07:51 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote:
> On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> > so you would put hd0,X  X= 1 2  or 3 etc...  you said it was 200mb right so 
> > just look for something around that in kb's.  probably the smallest 
> > partition it should say file type too no?  ntfs.
> >
> 
> In general,  what would happen  if I guessed wrong  with the   1, 2,  3 
> etc
> 
> 
> It should be file type NTFS  not ext3 ??

windows is ntfs.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread Unman
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:49:59PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:
> On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote:
> > Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong -
> > Windows wont boot and you will see an error message.
> > From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2.
> > In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be
> > referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2.
> > Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if
> > the first fails, reboot and choose the second.
> 
> 
> 
> I'd be happy to  if I had a clue  what that means   like  what ?
> 
> 
> 
> menuentry "Windows" {
>  insmod part_msdos
>  insmod ntldr
>  insmod ntfs
>  ntldr (hd0,msdos1)/bootmgr
> }
> 
> 
> menuentry "Windows" {
>  insmod part_msdos
>  insmod ntldr
>  insmod ntfs
>  ntldr (hd1,1)/bootmgr
> }
> 
> 
> 
> Again, lets say it might be hd0  it might be hd1  , it might be partition
> msdos1 msdos2   or ? should it just be labeled  1  or  2
> 
> then I would put in 4 entries or reboot and just keep guessing on the format
> 

No need to guess:
grub references disks numbering from 0
grub references partitions numbering from 1

So the first partition on the first disk would be hd0,msdos1. (also
hd0,1 - doesn't matter)
The third partition on a second disk would be hd1,msdos3

So now you can create two menu entries, one for each partition: Give them
different names - like this -  menuentry "Windows msdos1" 

> 
> 
> 
> PS:  What is supposed to happen ?  Where and When am I to make the choice to
> boot the win10  vs Qubes .

When you start the machine you will see the grub menu - It should
contain a menu (obviously) with entries for Qubes, and the two entries
you have just created.
You can press up and down keys to move up and down the entries -
Pressing enter will try to boot with the highlighted entry.
(There are instructions under the menu)

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[qubes-users] HCL - Dell Inspiron 1546

2017-07-01 Thread Boris Yost
No fiddling.  USBs work; Sleep works.  Intel wireless modem.  It is just
slow because it is 4GB, 2 cores.  Only supports 2 user VMs plus the system
ones.  Limited by the lack of virtualization tech.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread Unman
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:33:31PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:
> On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:05:36AM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:
> > > On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> > > > so you would put hd0,X  X= 1 2  or 3 etc...  you said it was 200mb 
> > > > right so just look for something around that in kb's.  probably the 
> > > > smallest partition it should say file type too no?  ntfs.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > actualy this is from the qubes doc's  not me
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr
> > > 
> > > In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM
> > > RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size
> > > --
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr   ?
> > > 
> > > or
> > > 
> > > ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr  ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I would think it would be  the 1st partitions when it comes to booting.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Is it possible my boot partition for win10   got  overwritten  when
> > > installing  Qubes somehow ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Maybe I should give up  ,  as  by the slow/no responses,  it seems there 
> > > is
> > > no way to get support for this
> > > 
> > 
> > As far as I can see a number of people have tried to help you here
> > You should read the guidelines at www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists and
> > be patient.
> > Also, a two minute search on the net would bring you to guides that
> > would enable you to learn something about grub and maybe solve the problem 
> > for
> > yourself.
> > 
> > On the specific points:
> > I doubt that your Win10 boot partition got overwritten , unless you
> > asked the installer to do so.
> > It is possible to run Windows without a SYSTEM partition, particularly if
> > installed in BIOS mode - it is, however, not standard.
> > fdisk -l shows you which partition has been marked as bootable - this
> > need not be the partition you want. It need not be the first partition.
> > Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong -
> > Windows wont boot and you will see an error message.
> > From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2.
> > In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be
> > referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2.
> > Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if
> > the first fails, reboot and choose the second.
> > 
> > Incidentally, its relatively simple to enable legacy boot on InsydeH20 -
> > again, a simple search would show you how.
> > Unless someone did this for you it's most likely that you are in UEFI
> > mode. You can check this in Linux by looking at the output from dmesg,
> > and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi'
> > Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you
> > booted UEFI.
> > The partition layout you have described doesn't seem to be standard for
> > Windows under UEFI.
> > 
> > It isn't clear if you read the documentation before installing Qubes, or
> > if you have a back up or cloned disk. If you didn't I would do it now
> > before trying anything else. You can attach the NTFS partitions to a qube
> > and copy the data off, or clone the whole partition.
> > 
> > Good luck.
> > 
> I appreciate your  replies,  I'm not a sysadmin,  enabled  legacy boot , i
> only vaguely understand  that that is requird for Qubes, anyway, i've got
> qubes installed,  it's just acting  different  than on my desktop version
> is,
> 
> I don't expect any replies, just hoping for more than 1 or 2  , hence I
> asked about the IRC,  but I'm guessing that isn't well attended  also
> 
> forgive me , for asking , it really isn't "a two minute" search it is that
> Grub and such are complicated for  non sysadmin  people
> 
> 
> just for the record, I would think Qubes might like to have  normal non
> sysadmin  people  able to use the OS,  so my questions to the list, my serve
> those people,
> 
> The format of post and wait days or never for a reply  may  not be ideal
> for anything  complicated  IMHO
> 
> anyway, thanks for listening
> 

Actually, normal, non sysadmin people CAN use the OS for the  most part
- the installation process can be problematic and even seasoned users can
find multiboot setups difficult. I would never recommend that - perhaps
the "multiboot" page should carry that warning.


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[qubes-users] Help :: Disposable VMs start without a NetVM (can't use DVMs currently )

2017-07-01 Thread 'P R' via qubes-users

Hello,

I have spend several hours to built new Template VMs from scratch (more 
precise: the fedora-24-minimal templates).


Now I have the problem, that my new disposable VMs all start without an 
attaches Net-VM.


sys-usb, sys-firewall, sys-net are now all based on the 
fedora-24-minimal template, with some additional packages, as suggested 
in the documentation.


I have also built a new dvm which is based on the fedora-24 template:

My default fedora-24 template is named "my-fedora-24-apps" and is a 
Template VM without a NetVM attached.


I created a new dvm in dom0:

[user@dom0 ~] qvm-create-default-dvm my-fedora-24-apps

In preferences of the new dvm template which is named 
"my-fedora-24-apps-dvm" I have attached  the firewall Proxy VM as NetVM.


But when I launch a program in the disposable VM there is no Net-VM 
attached.
I have also set the "NetVM for DispVM" unter "Other" in the "Advanced" 
Settings Tab of Qubes Manager for the dvm template to sys-firewall.


Still all my disposable AppVM start with an empty NetVM.
If I edit a disposable App VM and add the sys-firewall as NetVM, 
everything works fine.



QUESTION:
Where and how am I supposed to set the correct information which NetVM 
should be used for my DVMs?


- P R

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread yreb-qusw

On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote:

Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong -
Windows wont boot and you will see an error message.
From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2.
In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be
referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2.
Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if
the first fails, reboot and choose the second.



again fwiw this is what the
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/
says:

-
In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM 
RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size


Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom,

menuentry "Windows" {
 insmod part_msdos
 insmod ntldr
 insmod ntfs
 ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr
}

(Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.)

Then update the grub config:

sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

There is no need to reinstall grub itself.

If the above stanza does not work, you may try this one (at your own 
risk!) instead:


menuentry "Windows" {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ntfs
set root='(hd0,msdosX)'
chainloader +1
}

(Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.)
--



see the part  "at your own risk!" ..hence, I'm cautious

as for "making two entries"


I'd be happy to  if I had a clue  what that means   like  what ?



menuentry "Windows" {
 insmod part_msdos
 insmod ntldr
 insmod ntfs
 ntldr (hd0,msdos1)/bootmgr
}


menuentry "Windows" {
 insmod part_msdos
 insmod ntldr
 insmod ntfs
 ntldr (hd1,1)/bootmgr
}



Again, lets say it might be hd0  it might be hd1  , it might be 
partition msdos1 msdos2   or ? should it just be labeled  1  or  2


then I would put in 4 entries or reboot and just keep guessing on the format




PS:  What is supposed to happen ?  Where and When am I to make the 
choice to boot the win10  vs Qubes .





I have been waiting over a week,  I don't 'expect' an answer  I am 
already  trying  different   stanza entries  so far  no   success


PPS: I've "cc'd the list"

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread yreb-qusw

On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote:

and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi'
Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you
booted UEFI.



fwiw, neither of these indicates  EFI  boot

so, are you saying Legacy boot  might fix something ?

frankly, I am not even sure what behaviour to expect,  if I did get 
grub2  with the right boot partition 



Would I see something when I boot in Grub  that gives me a choice to 
boot win10  or  Qubes,  is there a choice that pops up in Grub


or ?


I'm sure this all makes sense to long term linux sysadmins...


eg I also noticed  with I do  qvm-shutdown --all  it seems to shutdown 
dom0  and freeze the computer


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread yreb-qusw

On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote:

On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:05:36AM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:

On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote:

so you would put hd0,X  X= 1 2  or 3 etc...  you said it was 200mb right so 
just look for something around that in kb's.  probably the smallest partition 
it should say file type too no?  ntfs.



actualy this is from the qubes doc's  not me


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Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr

In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM
RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size
--


ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr   ?

or

ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr  ?


I would think it would be  the 1st partitions when it comes to booting.


Is it possible my boot partition for win10   got  overwritten  when
installing  Qubes somehow ?



Maybe I should give up  ,  as  by the slow/no responses,  it seems there is
no way to get support for this



As far as I can see a number of people have tried to help you here
You should read the guidelines at www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists and
be patient.
Also, a two minute search on the net would bring you to guides that
would enable you to learn something about grub and maybe solve the problem for
yourself.

On the specific points:
I doubt that your Win10 boot partition got overwritten , unless you
asked the installer to do so.
It is possible to run Windows without a SYSTEM partition, particularly if
installed in BIOS mode - it is, however, not standard.
fdisk -l shows you which partition has been marked as bootable - this
need not be the partition you want. It need not be the first partition.
Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong -
Windows wont boot and you will see an error message.
From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2.
In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be
referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2.
Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if
the first fails, reboot and choose the second.

Incidentally, its relatively simple to enable legacy boot on InsydeH20 -
again, a simple search would show you how.
Unless someone did this for you it's most likely that you are in UEFI
mode. You can check this in Linux by looking at the output from dmesg,
and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi'
Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you
booted UEFI.
The partition layout you have described doesn't seem to be standard for
Windows under UEFI.

It isn't clear if you read the documentation before installing Qubes, or
if you have a back up or cloned disk. If you didn't I would do it now
before trying anything else. You can attach the NTFS partitions to a qube
and copy the data off, or clone the whole partition.

Good luck.

I appreciate your  replies,  I'm not a sysadmin,  enabled  legacy boot , 
i only vaguely understand  that that is requird for Qubes, anyway, i've 
got qubes installed,  it's just acting  different  than on my desktop 
version is,


I don't expect any replies, just hoping for more than 1 or 2  , hence I 
asked about the IRC,  but I'm guessing that isn't well attended  also


forgive me , for asking , it really isn't "a two minute" search it is 
that Grub and such are complicated for  non sysadmin  people



just for the record, I would think Qubes might like to have  normal non 
sysadmin  people  able to use the OS,  so my questions to the list, my 
serve those people,


The format of post and wait days or never for a reply  may  not be ideal 
 for anything  complicated  IMHO


anyway, thanks for listening

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread Unman
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:05:36AM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote:
> On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote:
> > so you would put hd0,X  X= 1 2  or 3 etc...  you said it was 200mb right so 
> > just look for something around that in kb's.  probably the smallest 
> > partition it should say file type too no?  ntfs.
> > 
> 
> actualy this is from the qubes doc's  not me
> 
> 
> --
> Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr
> 
> In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM
> RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size
> --
> 
> 
> ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr   ?
> 
> or
> 
> ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr  ?
> 
> 
> I would think it would be  the 1st partitions when it comes to booting.
> 
> 
> Is it possible my boot partition for win10   got  overwritten  when
> installing  Qubes somehow ?
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe I should give up  ,  as  by the slow/no responses,  it seems there is
> no way to get support for this
> 

As far as I can see a number of people have tried to help you here
You should read the guidelines at www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists and
be patient.
Also, a two minute search on the net would bring you to guides that
would enable you to learn something about grub and maybe solve the problem for
yourself.

On the specific points:
I doubt that your Win10 boot partition got overwritten , unless you
asked the installer to do so.
It is possible to run Windows without a SYSTEM partition, particularly if
installed in BIOS mode - it is, however, not standard.
fdisk -l shows you which partition has been marked as bootable - this
need not be the partition you want. It need not be the first partition.
Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong -
Windows wont boot and you will see an error message.
>From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2.
In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be
referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2.
Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if
the first fails, reboot and choose the second.

Incidentally, its relatively simple to enable legacy boot on InsydeH20 -
again, a simple search would show you how.
Unless someone did this for you it's most likely that you are in UEFI
mode. You can check this in Linux by looking at the output from dmesg,
and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi'
Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you
booted UEFI.
The partition layout you have described doesn't seem to be standard for
Windows under UEFI.

It isn't clear if you read the documentation before installing Qubes, or
if you have a back up or cloned disk. If you didn't I would do it now
before trying anything else. You can attach the NTFS partitions to a qube
and copy the data off, or clone the whole partition. 

Good luck.

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[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread yreb-qusw

On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote:

so you would put hd0,X  X= 1 2  or 3 etc...  you said it was 200mb right so 
just look for something around that in kb's.  probably the smallest partition 
it should say file type too no?  ntfs.


actually in the docs maybe instead they should recommmend

sudo fdisk -l

cause that Does show the boot partition /dev/sda2

however I'm left still not knowing how to write the 'stanza'


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menuentry "Windows" {
 insmod part_msdos
 insmod ntldr
 insmod ntfs
 ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr
}

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eg   in my case ?

ntldr (hd1,2)/bootmgr   ?  or

ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr


etc




sigh

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[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem

2017-07-01 Thread yreb-qusw

On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote:

so you would put hd0,X  X= 1 2  or 3 etc...  you said it was 200mb right so 
just look for something around that in kb's.  probably the smallest partition 
it should say file type too no?  ntfs.



actualy this is from the qubes doc's  not me


--
Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr

In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM
RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size
--


ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr   ?

or

ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr  ?


I would think it would be  the 1st partitions when it comes to booting.


Is it possible my boot partition for win10   got  overwritten  when 
installing  Qubes somehow ?




Maybe I should give up  ,  as  by the slow/no responses,  it seems there 
is no way to get support for this



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Re: [qubes-users] Terrible audio quality in one VM

2017-07-01 Thread Chris Laprise

On 07/01/2017 12:35 PM, Andrew Morgan wrote:

I've had this problem for a while now, but so far haven't been able to
pinpoint the cause.

I have many VMs based on fedora-25 (this has been an issue since f23),
but one of them always has very low-quality/scratchy bass in it.
Unfortunately that happens to be the VM I do all my web-browsing in,
making listening any music online a sub-par experience.

I also have a VM specifically for watching media based on the same
template, that has absolutely no problems with audio quality.

There's no different between the different VMs in pavucontrol.

Anyone have any idea on what may be causing this?

Andrew Morgan


I would guess its a pulse audio setting in your home folder. Easy way 
out may be to simply copy your data files over to a new appVM.


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Re: [qubes-users] Rules for when "Update VM" is an active menu item

2017-07-01 Thread Chris Laprise

On 07/01/2017 01:33 PM, motech man wrote:

On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 5:37:53 AM UTC-5, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 06/29/2017 01:13 PM, motech man wrote:

I updated the fedora 23 template with changes to the hosts /etc/file,
and I noticed that all other VMs that used that template had the
update flag set. That makes perfect sense.

So when I was done I shutdown the template VM and now the Update VM
item is grayed out in the dom0 menu. Restarting the fedora 23
template or any of the VMs that use it in any order or combination
does not allow me to update the VMs that use that template.

I made sure all VMs that use that template were shutdown. In fact the
only VM running is dom0.

What is the correct procedure for updating the hosts file for all VMs
dependent on fedora 23 (what is the rule for when the 'Update VM'
menu is active)?



You perform updates on templates themselves, not on the VMs which use them.

The indicator you're referring to as "update flag" simply shows that the
VM's template has been changed in some way. Shutting down the template
and re-starting the derivative VM is how you make the update take effect
in the VM.

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I am aware of the template / AppVM relationship. However simply restarting the 
AppVM to obtain the updated hosts file does not work. I also mentioned an odd 
symptom associated with changing the hosts file in a subsequent post. Niether 
are explained by your reply, but thx for it anyway.



"...now the Update VM item is grayed out in the dom0 menu."

This reference to 'menu' gave me the impression you were trying to 
perform normal OS updates, but for the appVMs directly.


Re: hosts file, here was some discussion:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/xy2eYiZHvW4

FWIW, Fedora 23 is outdated and something may not be working quite 
right. I tried modifying hosts in a Debian 9 template and the change did 
propagate to the derivative VMs.


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Re: [qubes-users] Rules for when "Update VM" is an active menu item

2017-07-01 Thread Unman
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:33:01AM -0700, motech man wrote:
> On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 5:37:53 AM UTC-5, Chris Laprise wrote:
> > On 06/29/2017 01:13 PM, motech man wrote:
> > > I updated the fedora 23 template with changes to the hosts /etc/file,
> > > and I noticed that all other VMs that used that template had the
> > > update flag set. That makes perfect sense.
> > >
> > > So when I was done I shutdown the template VM and now the Update VM
> > > item is grayed out in the dom0 menu. Restarting the fedora 23
> > > template or any of the VMs that use it in any order or combination
> > > does not allow me to update the VMs that use that template.
> > >
> > > I made sure all VMs that use that template were shutdown. In fact the
> > > only VM running is dom0.
> > >
> > > What is the correct procedure for updating the hosts file for all VMs
> > > dependent on fedora 23 (what is the rule for when the 'Update VM'
> > > menu is active)?
> > >
> 
> I am aware of the template / AppVM relationship. However simply restarting 
> the AppVM to obtain the updated hosts file does not work. I also mentioned an 
> odd symptom associated with changing the hosts file in a subsequent post. 
> Niether are explained by your reply, but thx for it anyway.
> 

I don't have a fedora 23, but I have tested 24, and assorted Debian
templates, and all of them work as expected.

So I would say that the "correct procedure" is to do what you have done.

This doesn't explain why it does not work for you or why you get the
"censored" output - I'm assuming here that those are ACTUAL x
characters.
What package versions are you using?
Are you using a default template with no other changes?

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Re: [qubes-users] Rules for when "Update VM" is an active menu item

2017-07-01 Thread motech man
On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 5:37:53 AM UTC-5, Chris Laprise wrote:
> On 06/29/2017 01:13 PM, motech man wrote:
> > I updated the fedora 23 template with changes to the hosts /etc/file,
> > and I noticed that all other VMs that used that template had the
> > update flag set. That makes perfect sense.
> >
> > So when I was done I shutdown the template VM and now the Update VM
> > item is grayed out in the dom0 menu. Restarting the fedora 23
> > template or any of the VMs that use it in any order or combination
> > does not allow me to update the VMs that use that template.
> >
> > I made sure all VMs that use that template were shutdown. In fact the
> > only VM running is dom0.
> >
> > What is the correct procedure for updating the hosts file for all VMs
> > dependent on fedora 23 (what is the rule for when the 'Update VM'
> > menu is active)?
> >
> 
> You perform updates on templates themselves, not on the VMs which use them.
> 
> The indicator you're referring to as "update flag" simply shows that the
> VM's template has been changed in some way. Shutting down the template 
> and re-starting the derivative VM is how you make the update take effect 
> in the VM.
> 
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I am aware of the template / AppVM relationship. However simply restarting the 
AppVM to obtain the updated hosts file does not work. I also mentioned an odd 
symptom associated with changing the hosts file in a subsequent post. Niether 
are explained by your reply, but thx for it anyway.

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[qubes-users] Terrible audio quality in one VM

2017-07-01 Thread Andrew Morgan
I've had this problem for a while now, but so far haven't been able to
pinpoint the cause.

I have many VMs based on fedora-25 (this has been an issue since f23),
but one of them always has very low-quality/scratchy bass in it.
Unfortunately that happens to be the VM I do all my web-browsing in,
making listening any music online a sub-par experience.

I also have a VM specifically for watching media based on the same
template, that has absolutely no problems with audio quality.

There's no different between the different VMs in pavucontrol.

Anyone have any idea on what may be causing this?

Andrew Morgan

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[qubes-users] Re: How to enlarge the size of hvm?

2017-07-01 Thread jakis250g
Yes I got my windows hvm to full-size with the Windows tools. Now I'm trying to 
see if I change the one for Kali at all instead of such a small screen.  

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[qubes-users] Re: NO SOUND after debian 9 (stretch) upgrade + workaround

2017-07-01 Thread moein7tl
I have same problem. Thanks for you solution.

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Re: [qubes-users] Rules for when "Update VM" is an active menu item

2017-07-01 Thread Chris Laprise

On 06/29/2017 01:13 PM, motech man wrote:

I updated the fedora 23 template with changes to the hosts /etc/file,
and I noticed that all other VMs that used that template had the
update flag set. That makes perfect sense.

So when I was done I shutdown the template VM and now the Update VM
item is grayed out in the dom0 menu. Restarting the fedora 23
template or any of the VMs that use it in any order or combination
does not allow me to update the VMs that use that template.

I made sure all VMs that use that template were shutdown. In fact the
only VM running is dom0.

What is the correct procedure for updating the hosts file for all VMs
dependent on fedora 23 (what is the rule for when the 'Update VM'
menu is active)?



You perform updates on templates themselves, not on the VMs which use them.

The indicator you're referring to as "update flag" simply shows that the
VM's template has been changed in some way. Shutting down the template 
and re-starting the derivative VM is how you make the update take effect 
in the VM.


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[qubes-users] Re: How to enlarge the size of hvm?

2017-07-01 Thread 0spinboson
On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:13:40 AM UTC+2, jaki...@gmail.com wrote:
> Guess I didn't make myself clear. I meant the size of the display itself not 
> the size of storage. 
> 
> In Qubes manager I only see the disk storage, and memory CPU. I'm not seeing 
> any settings in relation to the display. 
> 
> Inside the vm in display settings my resolution is at max option of 1024x68.

I see. No, that is something that just follows from the screen size for me 
(with seamless mode disabled). E.g. when I tell it to use the left side of the 
screen, the Qubes Video Driver changes the resolution on the fly. Did you 
install the Qubes Windows tools?

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[qubes-users] Re: How to enlarge the size of hvm?

2017-07-01 Thread jakis250g
Guess I didn't make myself clear. I meant the size of the display itself not 
the size of storage. 

In Qubes manager I only see the disk storage, and memory CPU. I'm not seeing 
any settings in relation to the display. 

Inside the vm in display settings my resolution is at max option of 1024x68.

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