Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sunday, 02.10.2016 at 06:10 -0700, Drew White wrote: > > [...] > > > > You see the difference? Your follow-up reply was inappropriate. It > > didn't actually explain what you wanted, it didn't help them to help > > you, and it led to this ridiculous thread. > > > > Hope this helps, genuinely. > > My reply made them use their brain to try to find the reason why, or > else to ASK the reason why IF they couldn't figure it out. Yours just > provided them information that made them not need to think or > anything. I appreciate the positive sentiment of your message, Drew, but this sentence stood out and is worthy of note. If you're posting to a discussion group where you want help, you should make it as *easy as possible* for someone to answer your question. It is a *good* thing to provide information to people so that they "[do] not need to think or anything"! You should not demand or expect that people go out of their way to figure out what you mean, when it is simpler for you to explain it as part of your enquiry. Don't make your questions to discussion groups intentionally unclear, Drew! In short, always err on the side of "too much information" rather than too little. Cheers, Dave. - -- Dave Ewart da...@sungate.co.uk, http://twitter.com/DaveEwart All email from me is digitally signed, http://www.sungate.co.uk/ GPG key updated Jan 2013 see http://www.sungate.co.uk/gpg Fingerprint: CF3A 93EF 01E6 16C5 AE7A 1D27 45E1 E473 378B B197 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJX8hE2AAoJEEXh5HM3i7GXVZIf/0TeT2zgKOAFSiBzuh2vEkvM 0ZRPGmsuzou2s0dkPg+VKnali91G4IBU9PxwDqtYperroY0ysNXWun+lf+bOqCpP CmFal+jqWIBMQi4QeCf+EpISXETp2Z6gKbkmv/UwZUxpi42wu6lxD41YJt5tKps9 M+Tb0qc4Urjo1yznZgcc+K8fDxEro7yV4exbzPTWaybXYYtGLkHQ14djPnO7YWBV YaAfSCZfZo1UU5faXV1KQdE3fLQeA7LWbSFUCHCJltmeJL46tT9UqijTz+MxNvb/ 52FfwblbrAlQk3La8bkupQZUQzKfyK/VijTXvN9xYyyeOZ0e/bLxnAPA3tt8UCnP ywfPOTgZWqShp/oqNeGL4Stgp1IgcquQnUknhPbkLUlU/uTD7t4PX2GYvM/QSbLf 9Hn7TOC9k+LHc5/9GWBsadpZNYzxrlMWmbI2rZhyVh/js5TzrUR+ehZq4wsDuUCS jUiQnNIl05AfLtD4kHUvV+RpwiZB774VlA09qr3Uucp5QDa6GBtrZpZzNYz821wV eos//U9kCLYlikWvKrMCNVrP+Kr2WYP6iFZWuCzmNbzYBmARjQFAVIflHxglNNqH hGWuej7ztrOWScnfxmV4XCN6Io84iGnt8ysJqV7qHXgtNw08e2+Zb/IAwLpDn5eC Sz7D9IjhJ3bUP40oxWpo8aZO9Hv5DUXSXu1f/QPDaWjKoPeSDCubOdEixHhMXzpY HypyEStwMTXXNHkHHWDjTDcG2SDNKfHXjqfHRSj0N+JLaIPh//fz5zvSQNI0IqLN me7LB5qqL/9bMEc3cZo1B0XalkagG0Ew1CTlDc8Q7RnecMMXE/8sKz2t9pW7jrdn KNcRd1/tVs07mG4qDrONzw5BBEHI/fuTNfrz1AfgNV+axGRGgqLENruSdTHizZWy bocUjs1xHUfFRyLswWyIFGmEOa6fTbgQ9dyAK4TBs2dlck14Q7gDZtAuQwVH8LwR /vlWw2+xj/RE4oqmVofaVydl/rs1moho9/x/7AWFgfdWyIH/Q7yzZwvo71oHoPgz +xjwvG8qzTIhcBkaAABNitI97RzWT2IUaUu0YPB3YCLrcZIx9Pl/qCfc8qGS3tuI g/8LYsj3y7YI+I3UaZOF0sAxCCAVlZFXfYnYuE8YGMFVI9XoKJ+rTlRBUe0h4ReV gwGfEJo4N/V7sx9FjifwzpIOhHrMIrfEAhJqgdhxOWTzZbQZb1w6gERF5f8sErw8 f/EnN9xFuX8E9aKDFTjSPnlXkeJJRnGd1BIv3YbGtacgD1HgSm/5gjfUx9Ypfz1q cXF+Mp1DHzoxCf4FhDj2Ve62ZwUJNOLlTYegKlsP2OFhfmmup3Qd6COjV9gRA8Y= =t5uU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20161003080511.GK11916%40sungate.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thursday, 29.09.2016 at 18:01 -0700, Drew White wrote: > On Thursday, 29 September 2016 17:41:23 UTC+10, Dave Ewart wrote: > > There is no commonly-accepted definition of 'version' with regard to > > Windows, only "64-bit v 32-bit" and the Edition. > > > > If you have some unusual definition of 'version' then you should explain > > what that definition is. Shouting at people - expecting them to > > understand you - won't help. > > By version I mean VERSION. > Because there are many versions. > You could have 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04 (as example of version numbers) > You can even turn on the display of the version number in Windows. > > My version number is currently Version 6.1.7601 for my Windows 7 Guest. > > > You need to *ask a better question* rather than insulting the person > > answering. > > In future, please know what you are talking about before you try to > defame someone who asks the correct question. As I said previously, the version of Windows is not usually discussed (since it just depends on which updates have been installed) and you would have got a better answer the first time if you'd included - for example - "My version number is currently Version 6.1.7601 for my Windows 7 Guest" in your original question. That better question would have got you a better answer. Serious advice: whether you intend it or not, Drew, a large number of your posts come across to many people here as impolite, aggressive & demanding. This is not generally the case with other posters. The fact that many people feel the same about your posts should tell you something. For example, here's how your current question could have been asked in a better way. === THE RIGHT WAY === > > > Does QWT require any specific version of Windows 7? > > > > That's covered here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-tools-3/ > > Ah, sorry, you misunderstand me: I meant version as in 'Windows 7 > version 6.1.7601', not the Edition. Are there any specific > requirements relating to that? > > ... Whereas your discussion went like this === THE WRONG WAY === > > > Does QWT require any specific version of Windows 7? > > > > That's covered here: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-tools-3/ > > Doesn't even BEGIN to answer the question. You see the difference? Your follow-up reply was inappropriate. It didn't actually explain what you wanted, it didn't help them to help you, and it led to this ridiculous thread. Hope this helps, genuinely. Dave. - -- Dave Ewart da...@sungate.co.uk, http://twitter.com/DaveEwart All email from me is digitally signed, http://www.sungate.co.uk/ GPG key updated Jan 2013 see http://www.sungate.co.uk/gpg Fingerprint: CF3A 93EF 01E6 16C5 AE7A 1D27 45E1 E473 378B B197 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJX7iOSAAoJEEXh5HM3i7GXqtwf/0MdTiDTmOPsT9GkXCGWNltW LwMC3vigJ3FT+TFZ537SR2icK0hEA91G5+TkDCclX+Hp8jEVVGAdT7F+ya0oth8q F55lHOV3GKboUBhHdGi/wXe40VWCZoSfTyo5IOOzTTwK2vUmZ2eDx1V8JwhGkzFi hw6Z4eoqFAC9Ms70rh5USFsztM70uUMfb79EqvhoWZagyb8UYPb1ZFnWKTceV8FG 9esfsEutZNNJAu8UnPBis77vAv8F5C+Oj9DGeHOfW/qg2e/tbJ0qnLQXqwBfLNib mluPRlbG7nBJthCHS9iKborakxFJPcdb8q4TGgdfllidWce0PCk293C9vd28fKht HDhcAxsYGswWjIUidDbG+yfGR8FBUJNqgPqFGOoATObD6qFAFlA1crJVtLVrGimp mG1Aq5KHop8SzUVc3bXblPFMjDpU8H/YDeOCxAv4mhYNNDkzBUJUZadbqq21gtGz PFj4kyJec7lCRBkhHviVrEYLKhnA+nUEd2tHIZydEn6Ir1LLYf2J6cSCGFXQp0w2 KESPSYndjTPHMLhQEbReBfI8h1MyVAZWLgIMqXLlNxqqNXqTztqEyuKsg8yfjmu2 edbH0V8JWKu1Q+JbJ2GHIUhCaY+Yais0yc/QLusGFqSIYcRM14TGyRdletuZCK8Q 7lUL+3h4F7wLAENDF9oAjrzp3mkQlW75XAJpN8fG27IJl/xaD9Z3mQAkYSsaDq7e ckG5z3SCFqnpfBG6gvxIzrGHWZSCSUq/g31GJNVdD8eLlEDG7k1hFDZ4r6Du7UdA JanwIMQVLrDahEzWYR/04VH9EYBmtP/z2yZaCJ9x9Bl4AfnN/X61+SHUx8yGeBBB 5AR7LyeTHvQt1cze3IKJa8FSsh6oiFZZfUn2w1EumhOqHur0mmgxbbr8SpdAzMrk ihc1k67h78T0Aip4Mz1OejxNroYnMlcIUCAOieArIcRIMXrC9VMn1WA5IB1QaQgV AElqjK2qDDA4MOn8Q8mhDSTj3WKvf/g2NpEzkjVld15xnzox1q4Ze02N2t2CyFwS ScR9VHBdeVPDWGB/1TpE2CGFMzk4Z1trpNBSSxr9fD0fsgdOMqG1bym4PGLyPL4+ GrkKuuzj4eZUCCjHkxvdWZTWZhxkJU6zcGH75+QRcmokAC0DEOxmzhJ9hoGffTqd XCwzPcDA9SI0eUW8wxnA229LMClfX4znL6yyJxV/zjbq+pG0pxT8uaG5JZXXjwxU wK/hDSD9rSRfmjFqFt23Vwu13E88swAjAYYgC0F2JJXyiZmf9WYAn2iN+ESrBFDl AnIAxUwgbypFgXS0SBXM6iAoIF9UfW2X8m1gvFI/f3qoaj5mOSPJi43iKOaybIw= =1kvL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160930083427.GI11916%40sungate.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wednesday, 28.09.2016 at 17:53 -0700, Drew White wrote: > > > > > I would like to know from a dev what the requirements are for > > > > > Qubes Windows Tools (QWT). > > > > > > > > > > All O/S reference are known to be x86_64. > > > > > > > > > > Does QWT require any specific version of Windows 7? Or will > > > > > they work with all versions of Windows 7? > > > > covered here: all. > > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-tools-3/ > > > > > > Doesn't even BEGIN to answer the question. > > > > It *completely* answers your question. In the first line: "Only > > 64-bit Windows 7 (any edition) is supported". So you need Windows 7 > > 64-bit, but the edition doesn't matter (e.g. Home, Enterprise, > > whatever). > > I said VERSION, not EDITION. There is no commonly-accepted definition of 'version' with regard to Windows, only "64-bit v 32-bit" and the Edition. If you have some unusual definition of 'version' then you should explain what that definition is. Shouting at people - expecting them to understand you - won't help. You need to *ask a better question* rather than insulting the person answering. (etc.) Dave. - -- Dave Ewart da...@sungate.co.uk, http://twitter.com/DaveEwart All email from me is digitally signed, http://www.sungate.co.uk/ GPG key updated Jan 2013 see http://www.sungate.co.uk/gpg Fingerprint: CF3A 93EF 01E6 16C5 AE7A 1D27 45E1 E473 378B B197 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJX7MWfAAoJEEXh5HM3i7GXeB4f/itgGRCw3e3xf0hkNrGOeG/+ lAOPwNYDixac/FfvyHohV8QmJj7g9i+mRiBvtoIDsBQB8t+b8tzHQQHWm27xKFM0 l4Oa10sGA2AOr/q8+NBHfweGwkG0aKdmstpBpAl6vMWnKkHFGSYdi5/eF4NFSzgF VQDoSbjYviYbA7Kb8ua6XB1zZABXJL7yg4FZOORiu6rvyBIn7Z31cksK+ZIU2+jk ufn4apr6obbzRaOeNAjRbQhy0/yxKS5VDNgRdWjSdG7juRMZZg8xZsEIPQcwK5qi yS3TK7yfjXETqnhxJpWu9RCxPLEKtPAbWjFZNJWfljSsC8VBrbCgvgZT4ybVTZ1d 5GHBCv8uWNQNzztle+l729aXPs+dXw7WcoqSmB1OBLYcw0R7JeEctoDFPm7a3DhA kYlyyulmDio+UzATuy87zxw8RwN3nDThCU18xFeu3Fvh/jlId1KBnrIs+sKsyuaM LmlRw6ZFd0ledMq7Jt65mau3t28guYQIaRAvVBk76zygScAYIkcPbPqmTcyajM84 eLEexGDs6gycKQcNI6cxtv36+agttWu0vxi+Cm3Bzd362L1lo5gBMbmMCtPJH81e bDAFJv5L64QXgu4hhCpQHPAOVbNzEgAUJK9MUCEa39fQ/U0lFj/JBL2/besnlE/q WZheK88ptV4JHeeoxu9DG3uyvWhNnvn6ImpmaANQHV/z5l7N1QNBS2dzj05wI9up /Dvtq9wjs9iBEpeMb5k4Yh9Dc6rocmFrpDNm84v1QVYY9tE+LRd0pa/l14bq1gXP 8yXD6as95pefVK31rJOHV8M+g0a+RGbyN/otEoTR7Z2wJ7dtlxn2vTRzVLgHlb3J wma/8dRQCAKSz00bzg+iVSf9JY2RTv0NQd8Hp6L804wHzfNPNnM6QBXSe1V4xkZl yGOO0d5VUr0Ul8tqvftlzUSj5QiWOmdwvGEh9sSFTcJoM8xUpSiCKSE/oJ/QUIXw +r4DDoEE9GwMUTmRzX1qarKyPAbi1R6eouLz34CRYMuNyITRsojQxVBEieoqp0Zz UCB1iry0eQB22tTVjJ9si5jxgcautoiSqb+ZjcRX3HSe1k3SWRhhevrGffDQmvGN 2k7FzGLZ86ryz2sxjhFlfZpr3LRNZjJfGaMSJxJ/iCULhBEx0Y8u2Z4/QKrbnNzw To+hVGKgrokiV6LMZfHVlUlZ1XIE1DxYbSBR4ZrueFzPIhq4MdZz+i8ZSF/V75BW VsCHh+/qi+6rqMjXGeh+EL7KCVplHszCwBVcsw8Ov05EH5frxmPd8w3DS8vmJGpL no5iOxqvpwFEv5O7XDUniR7juedac08DFnaX/OeFHdtTDgXyHojI2QtzLNt2fXk= =Jflh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160929074120.GH11916%40sungate.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes Windows Tools
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wednesday, 28.09.2016 at 01:06 -0700, Drew White wrote: > On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:47:01 UTC+10, Foppe de Haan wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 8:20:29 AM UTC+2, Drew White > > wrote: > > > Hi Devs, > > > > > > I would like to know from a dev what the requirements are for > > > Qubes Windows Tools (QWT). > > > > > > All O/S reference are known to be x86_64. > > > > > > Does QWT require any specific version of Windows 7? Or will they > > > work with all versions of Windows 7? > > covered here: all. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-tools-3/ > > Doesn't even BEGIN to answer the question. It *completely* answers your question. In the first line: "Only 64-bit Windows 7 (any edition) is supported". So you need Windows 7 64-bit, but the edition doesn't matter (e.g. Home, Enterprise, whatever). > > > Why does QWT require TESTSIGNING to be turned on? Is that because > > > Win7 requires things to be signed? > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-appvms/ "Before proceeding with > > the installation we need to disable Windows mechanism that allows > > only signed drivers to be installed, because currently (beta > > releases) the drivers we provide as part of the Windows Tools are > > not digitally signed with a publicly recognizable certificate." > > Still doesn't answer that question either. > > I said "hi devs" because I needed someone with the knowledge of WHY, > not just an end user reason, but a dev description that is technical. Again, that really *does* answer your question. Windows 7 requires drivers to be signed by a recognised certificate. The Qubes Tools drivers are *not* signed by a recognised certificate, so to make them work one needs to toggle the TESTSIGNING flag so that Windows 7 no longer cares about their certificates. > [...] > > So please, refrain from answering my questions with details that don't > answer anything. If the website had the information, I would not be > asking. It sounds like the web site *does* include the information, you failed to find it (or didn't look), someone answered by pointing you at the right information and you merely insulted them in reply. Glad to see you're still trolling here, Drew... :-/ Dave. - -- Dave Ewart da...@sungate.co.uk, http://twitter.com/DaveEwart All email from me is digitally signed, http://www.sungate.co.uk/ GPG key updated Jan 2013 see http://www.sungate.co.uk/gpg Fingerprint: CF3A 93EF 01E6 16C5 AE7A 1D27 45E1 E473 378B B197 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJX64BSAAoJEEXh5HM3i7GXZrcgAKCm0rkZmJetbLUo1GNscebW CWVyUvUkgSLuzuTdgBJu015S/BwydQgZfd5Dl4LvK4HYFMl4SO7p1vrkchFPcwv4 4+656TVEATRCY2XQS90w8DZwQMoiqLCoaudPjyK6MJxk+zLIdW04lmgz9E2jVZ7Z GpxpQ6QPlXAZsvOQJH7LMQMgsr0QeC67XGbW2QGQx79ZXUaijB5jY6KUaqoMNolM 0QEzQVa3EEW3araIsOnPp8DHs1d1W+3/4LdmMC7hTQXtMoK+PNsrp/Nlnb1CA4oo NRzCFCZSS/OQuCHhRbTcB/nUNMZbswFjDgNHxxEJIVwcEk2CBmKlHo+/GUKzxI7a S/BwpoFLaCvTfLeTo46N1L8GLrilZFlF1l+BC21Nv02lHVuD7ehnL4sQFAfCfzS6 kb9LNtqOXS1+9PoojJZ/MMnXuuxlG2FzpjcUzaI6c4OeMMznSI7vowYrRUTOEEqE 5uUYyW8yULJXkdhm7DOBjSJH+WQOveJxCXKNlDWvmsK8lz3DDGYHn8VWCO1qOefg PQS7HIV4O9rQ9aenyZ+GuHBKmJ/Y2RKmLlYKblp3hInf2tMcwfxdoFf1YWhqYyaV nPOSTldaq7vXgufPF/xM/YMHaTBCXuqpjKp+2AtaD4PCG4HUgqd3OZS0dgIvtoed 0gd82v486DTGYxtTyKJoJGB0sCDsKvu1OcDFrN7R59u5q8Ey0PuGHZmiccwYzPeS 1OfdxWIkF6cc6ZZVsZ6iE18UB/3H/Z4s9QEuG6iwMPQGTjC/gGJOS75P5ZhqemrX zYLZzsti+0gPRMwG9llYtsnqPA42w7isMR+VhbIxheu5sCYGSYhvsuQVnoQqR1ez 8G8WTnRKR2LAhg2RFLPn4B7K7ZkpHEi3e4+BOJpw8tE+d/8dFMISbk8976iYrcAD kMbbFoniOnXjllypiTTGgPMDyRPuwEiH3Co3HfxVwPRBLu96wFSE6CWIJLEaEKHx Cjg4EK9LQt3/qbe6sLehHlR2KeK8nb9TYCPEl0u8hedj9Y32twFzEQ3hOhi508+K Dub7RNQPZr79IdxFXtakywkPXTJxey9ouZn5QGjyPlTw4hI1NYN5USTeP0oOredL +SLCFo0cq8PjuSA/R+7hhqyQbMaFqDwEoMdRizwTbRvtGq8hQvWe3aunBiBTxLvp PJHwam2BIXyGNqTIIM5Y3CRAEp0OIfumSi13Ul4l1FeKl6M6wXlrWa0bSNhobys7 l6qKFlfFkR08zT461UdfPY1iMQv2CIRG+9/xgEO43F/pRHvfw1eUkp6yDTL58Y37 SUzE07cJxUePTOag1x3z4Lin90dlUHdRdywDzfyOmcMpbCISkK4KmjFw1a+/RWI= =MArm -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160928083323.GG11916%40sungate.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Does QubesOs does not source ~/.profile on purpose?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sunday, 18.09.2016 at 11:26 -0700, Connor Page wrote: > technically the user "user" is not logged in so the profile files are > not sourced. use .bashrc if you want to modify terminal sessions. If you want something common to all your terminals, regardless of VM, you can add a file to /etc/profile.d which includes all your common content (e.g. aliases) I use /etc/profile.d/mystuff.sh alias h=history ... [I suppose that, by modifying the template in this manner, you might be making your system more unique and therefore more identifiable if there's a compromise. Not an issue for me, but may be a concern for some.] Dave. - -- Dave Ewart da...@sungate.co.uk, http://twitter.com/DaveEwart All email from me is digitally signed, http://www.sungate.co.uk/ GPG key updated Jan 2013 see http://www.sungate.co.uk/gpg Fingerprint: CF3A 93EF 01E6 16C5 AE7A 1D27 45E1 E473 378B B197 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJX359fAAoJEEXh5HM3i7GX5zUf/011o9WGYzxRgw6xX+hf26ds r10DXjR2yGk1BzSqf5HFlJv8u+nj6T6SFE2CMo+oAKYJ7Qv7sh3h100UDrOKkViO +YgKtWzH9djWl1kEp8SQQTg2T1gBB8hBG5SK58jTnFJB3C33jrwNp1a5K5SHxtv+ CkIHakp/93SQCht+MRZJiCTxMHIXTczpgJgh/uBiHtvkpjxjsfhkanMtfq7Q73Fv ofKVI0epGeO98ey7IMhi+9MwjDXRDQ491CLZnvpYCvXpg3X4qIR9JP/qnaKl2vbe zsadpmHWNf/4Tg68GtvPAzzmhj+qPhC8qHv3N2FmOK0yxnjjdP3JyKaeZamaNlkH kPxP1qWQanRR6PHxykc77hI7oYn5Uz62wWlSUVoS2zQSMjfWGkrGWqMsDQEgzQby tdqn/HO0KB6p7I46BJS35wJU0HY3zQQttDIiZEbMEkYcgRwvryuK1jstHavKmx5s GuwxagZIPTR5F4vakNkYV1dOn+xXgDnL5F0DyUx4JtEoPmMgcloeHRwLuo1KcO5o F5ctjCjC60UXfFA54TkJ2KyojgkuDiagnA0/Yv/gRSF047bgYQFHxXoiyFCrWeAd MuY+WJwd789LiKrwOfzo21zUzi165v6yN3pPlhS24RKsNFFBoQTWBGun/rmNR1BB 7k82Ol0IMAgIEZT3v6kP0p9mRSS/dQxwQYrWh+vg8zBhHxI9QCHiEVqgWIMyNPAC HsXKRNRUcCvpaYeNhhUxGDrTAQWU4/Dm/JlhAWKJoKp3NuJ7RTf6u7e/fIqAlTzg a4OKZdan0YjKP7j9943TpaJYLiKwZ8jStPGZH3PGLZccPIA03cmGKiKrvqOUerUt BkOGPMZywm7UAvdRuy9CnTraljeJqkilqOvfomaXdfVHPXL1/gD2XyRowwGbgqJO jMj93tFpH4raf9dOr77T5I0+6mZkaVHr/UYrvCKxkxASAgZNWG/ZkT3/UP37jnX5 NkP3vZ5TjsZgt0RBs6E6Cwi9rdctgsLipYKMT38pXlFlqI7nkifuKg2FdYbm65bE PgkjteoXxhC2su20ggx7MH8Mz1q9RErGpumz0LKOJK6P/9sWNa0k45fffGfSN/KM oybkKH5FoPNk8kOYqVXevgMjPNUbckGFeRNQi9FCn9xBDDlKt8RWylSJD50Kr531 g+V/m0Zce/6Ums2hg7JQ05JuMcevi//NsFeAn5S2kYJWumtYHLQngVHRDRBcCSC8 qV94+UgzidWG94QANrwaZpCWadZQHlidOOooCqZOhC83Q6uKSiDEMfv94eIw+R47 kTCbzvcSlTuLNQj1bflrbWI93auhSIea7iTk/uAW40z61yUJTomOw7/W/eHgg6E= =N1ZM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160919081840.GF11916%40sungate.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes OS 3.0 reaches EOL on 2016-09-09
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Saturday, 03.09.2016 at 19:50 +0200, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 06:40:46PM +0100, Dave Ewart wrote: > > On Friday, 02.09.2016 at 12:17 -0700, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > > > > As a reminder, Qubes OS 3.0 reaches EOL on 2016-09-09. If you're a > > > current 3.0 user, we strongly urge you to upgrade to a newer > > > release before 2016-09-09. You can read the full announcement > > > here: > > > > > > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/09/02/qubes-os-3-0-eol-on-2016-09-09/ > > > > > > Please feel free to use this thread to discuss the announcement. > > > > I've got 3.0 and therefore need to upgrade. > > > > I note that 3.2 is not quite final release: I'd prefer not to > > install 3.1 only to consider 3.2 almost immediately afterwards. > > > > Given the EOL for Qubes 3.0, is the recommended "upgrade to a newer > > release before 2016-09-09" really recommending the 3.2 release > > candidate? > > Unless some major bug will be found in R3.2-rc3 (which is unlikely), > the final R3.2 will be exactly the same as R3.2-rc3. So, yes - > upgrading to R3.2-rc3 seems as a reasonable step. Thanks, that does indeed seem reasonable given the maturity of the 3.2 release candidate. Cheers :-) Dave. - -- Dave Ewart da...@sungate.co.uk, http://twitter.com/DaveEwart All email from me is digitally signed, http://www.sungate.co.uk/ GPG key updated Jan 2013 see http://www.sungate.co.uk/gpg Fingerprint: CF3A 93EF 01E6 16C5 AE7A 1D27 45E1 E473 378B B197 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJXyzGwAAoJEEXh5HM3i7GXqsAgAIE5RGLRoyA9236JuYdel2ex OqRaKeH+Y36jCmnoxrGNZFyNfVmb8vNsjFRznYb5V37Hr0TVyJ+HIDcOzDmUqTnY tl3AjOWmLqUPLuIXOzMt7lBCbNAVHlr7rQHx6N42cw/kRpiQOXBDlG6K5pEswIkl oe/jVx8LkxQaqDsbR9NDsulmyHtpopUCvK1yFEPGFgqcaBm5T3aizollDf6BweEq +2CYtQ9BvSoyJhBZMMtbz/fsVnY9YNBnl2kRlRU5DxErVfYh+2cdtXJL8PU4RJo0 GPYH25sLbrsKBOc3FH2t6ki8+TaN5WEmvKPoFdHDYVi2M06j8yM4c6SDOZzlLBFY WqhAPYzKxYNYIZtPlShnlaQyvfPexsjtUyp+W7bZ6/cMwTkHU4rBXiXF+7pieMyW N2htKEOmEYN3bIMs5WJwcSKqBX00ccb5Wjgng709k+DTttsNMqHKkJb/nv/D+Qn4 qulLUWmFyo6AHXYRjbHkkr+nftISxv5ePsPBSHSPaVSDoSyLqiMZPiQ4/uLXO0gn SdGt4QEqw/9SJvyt6lMHcw7YKtwe2xCq5u7F4+S3FiJP6zeYMjw+yt0t7573As5j 8gOwJY2IKsAxiN+EADjOUEQlJPb1t5wY1y4Ym0WBMgnSzZIwsYNof8M4B/VbLcWq sbF6Pqztzp54PWCz1Pkg71Pwl/rZ0a7Vj3Am6KUcBfklL13K1fTVGBOZnztFg6Y2 en67q00j8emZiMShdgGuOXlj84qcf7mVSZjmf974bi5UFMREkei0lzSwhy6w8h75 0ljD11OV35ogl2SEh7CboiGrB6lIfrEDFkOMI+9QDa9MBNEY1DKP2YM0gcrDvCiW DcMDmi/iUBraX6Ar21l2OPG3uPeWqpOJ/JIjM7gQ1hJNX2ZlPYTlImHJPL6mp+HG gknDCiardkTZT5bpWzxnN00RdOTaJyptAnWBgSiIC1kzMruYoBycQZGCylRujKYC 89IHcEDWKgXgwAZXi1PdxQPGyvNiOa0TTISqDAbNHxUke5ev2de2q9/4bsqJDPTg cmPAYXRdkLheyikMMOzYwhArJ1WCa4JgGvBhE9IMy3G5tYTYI/wUtriyfT/3novv JnyTVWwju42tfuw4qN993kriQf4uPQKQZTQye9S8c/ovdqzbUFkGSrDxGf1P6O8s /S1kIUfLr2f4tyNcdHZMtUtQNeOgXfHqPqnIXnqOBisjkgJarRjnQTJss6n/MD8v XuXo20DH2IwpgZ+XZWUnfEbslVavjpMV0WoNVpX6Xrl5nJZ1pY+r7VyZ+QwiEf1i kA9Q2NQqsRggEqDS5AAtKQvbsTW1W9tkqB8Uqc1C3cVJYNAgmfCJuLcoI1O6woA= =BqLT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160903202521.GC11916%40sungate.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Announcement: Qubes OS 3.0 reaches EOL on 2016-09-09
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Friday, 02.09.2016 at 12:17 -0700, Andrew David Wong wrote: > As a reminder, Qubes OS 3.0 reaches EOL on 2016-09-09. If you're a > current 3.0 user, we strongly urge you to upgrade to a newer release > before 2016-09-09. You can read the full announcement here: > > https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/09/02/qubes-os-3-0-eol-on-2016-09-09/ > > Please feel free to use this thread to discuss the announcement. I've got 3.0 and therefore need to upgrade. I note that 3.2 is not quite final release: I'd prefer not to install 3.1 only to consider 3.2 almost immediately afterwards. Given the EOL for Qubes 3.0, is the recommended "upgrade to a newer release before 2016-09-09" really recommending the 3.2 release candidate? Cheers, Dave. - -- Dave Ewart da...@sungate.co.uk, http://twitter.com/DaveEwart All email from me is digitally signed, http://www.sungate.co.uk/ GPG key updated Jan 2013 see http://www.sungate.co.uk/gpg Fingerprint: CF3A 93EF 01E6 16C5 AE7A 1D27 45E1 E473 378B B197 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCgAGBQJXywsdAAoJEEXh5HM3i7GXn6gf/A0xE+HqCq2yU5fYCJLPs9SG N3iqpcwxS/dskSpefzrheYS5brycZX0DOxi7DsuVGOTIVCTRllu75V0nZurBcBwD GGmeUGa/DVY3Ae/4E0hSup49mwF7FIEYixAmRcw23XIOkwEhlHFoJjMmpdKapsbj DR7eojm3Pnihf4NNAJG9o/3oqUc43SZJ4idH/Iq6g8zvFMwd72aVL7abQC16I2tC rG1ptUijrA8SQ+PrY2eSRJNtWC1PctGZTUo8WI77aBmxSJ7PILOY6E0bbntbKSMF /VDxYaBh1KUZ0QnB2gpdYay/SA54+b4+stZXsHcrjFFJzWII3sGaUQq0ZmCjH+by u1anMNNepT06GfeFRp3pzzWfZWKredJECHss3x3ZNzIY0mSBVie6QetQZ5NkH7C6 xA7tt/m8JKHGmzs1JIN5ot6vfy3nguKWz5r/h3U1gKsckuKBw3U3GY+jHIPxXEjF mN1aPQZM7OHFhZTAZ36DirFbLGjS1JG0GMUuP9ZiLm107z57cpHZU6batXWdntww qM6uKm0JOTqVTTdX7ssvjKfaP6pOobX+UpxdB/8eqJfK6tfumQhaHVuLtT4ooeb1 OSF8K8gWfsF2nTLXA7HfjAn1CRwhYOro7D6XNaxRbpOf9GVoCuD5VImuaxDmRblE TwyO3dFAbTjclSRIzNIEcG//Fum8lqOZnPYzNrv7r0FGXGESFc1/AHjT555DXM4O knmyLiFRyZQ0LeE75zJlTaSc4/b04sqEZ6O9ygL9Uzw7fd7yzpVy4y/04rxkfDnY btOfb26j9KljGtrTf+Ma1s/BYMQEYp8e0VbwBKmBTWlFcC7pGf7NwE7aFMafEaQ0 MLGFa9w+zof5GFfdbt5DhA5vKFy4l7BjLBhf5aBtm5F0F5OlYvGiRI7wAZw51l0j W+OcgubmiQ2shBTbLu/ftmFS+aSqYveaGSIfywkfllOMj3gFlLQzgNrRdL9ODevZ f0o6SM2tPvHQG5dq3ZQo/3pJ/iaUS61rbTMpGYYDnxGyr/syKrMwaxvT4ke56F3y M79tuTpKTN6iUHQAdJQ1//12zC8BN/gntga1ud6o3cXNfpcz8lv4VvaUuOtOnBjW mikF3/pxuTh2zw04Nbrzi/OY1eakNeUbree9mWsBw9L694dmbTv/dYjenoEyFX0s GrQzUKI5uBZu+MsC0RmclFW5XC6hQfYWcCt6nvfam3/wbPwMVHEZH7j5qiL6eYsF mhmeFto/M5Ur6Y5CONZu51ogXL+FuxO7xhWKc9bjU8NBTi7zwL48oxLUZoVv9Gjv 1rorEBSK6EIy5dYySXrqiErxZLCAAOeEvo567rzFDCJoQCxXpn+TLb+HRxUfKio= =saKC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20160903174046.GB11916%40sungate.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
