Re: [qubes-users] Installation fails in many different ways

2020-01-01 Thread fiftyfourthparallel
awokd,

It was Nvidia--adding "nouveau.modeset=0" to BOOTX64.cfg did the trick.

Thank you!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/955d5e5d-ee2b-4df6-aa80-8ad599b7c1f1%40googlegroups.com.


Re: [qubes-users] Installation fails in many different ways

2020-01-01 Thread fiftyfourthparallel
It was Nvidia--adding "nouveau.modeset=0" did the trick. 

Thank you!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7b576d6b-fb4f-49bf-ad0a-0eb7c56e122c%40googlegroups.com.


[qubes-users] Installation fails in many different ways

2020-01-01 Thread trueriver
I have found problems with touchpad during installs of Qubes on various laptops 
and when installing R 4.0, R 4.0.1 and R 4.0.2rc3. I will be posting soon my 
guess about why this happens. But the first thing to say is I don't think this 
is hardware specific so please don't regret buying that shiny new kit.

But in the meantime here's the workaround that worked for me this week to 
install R 4.0.2rc3 on an Asus laptop.

Don't try to use the trackpad or the touch sensitive screen during install. 
Instead use a USB plug in mouse, have it already plugged in at boot up.

With the installed system you may occasionally get similar symptoms but they 
are transient, going away as soon as Dom0* has done whatever was keeping it 
busy. Unlike the experience with the installer, the system is usable 98% of the 
time, and the trackpad drop outs are an occasional brief irritant rather than a 
show stopper. They can be fixed too (look out for my upcoming post here, 
perhaps today, certainly this week)

((* Dom0 is a special virtual machine that is central to many of the Qubes 
specific security features. Under current versions of Qubes it also looks after 
the screen, keyboard and mouse. In very non technical terms it sometimes needs 
to focus on the security or the background stuff about configuring Xen at the 
expense of the mouse. That's especially the case when it's installing a new 
system. Plans are in place to move these things out of Dom0, but that's a work 
in progress and doesn't help us right now)).

Let me know how you get on using a USB mouse, please. 

And come back if you find occasional returns of this effect on the installed 
system. In my opinion, on my laptops, it's fixable so is worth persevering. My 
strong hunch is that it will work even better on your kit.

And when Qubes works it's great. Welcome, and I hope we can encourage you to 
stay :)

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/28b8a92a-3164-453f-87c5-e6c324f524d5%40googlegroups.com.


Re: [qubes-users] Installation fails in many different ways

2019-12-31 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
fiftyfourthparal...@gmail.com:
> Happy new year, fellow Qubers!

And you.

> Using 4.0.2-rc3, I managed to get all the way to actual installation after 
> battling several major issues (like m.2 not appearing), but it seems like 
> I've hit a brick wall. Installation freezes/fails during installation, but 
> where and how varied among all attempts. 

> *Attempt 4: *Quickly set passwords. Kept wiggling cursor to find out when 
> it freezes. Observed increasing cursor lag starting at 804/1025. Cursor and 
> pinwheel freezes at 808/1025. Dead keyboard. Dead installation. Hurt 
> feelings. Hard liquor. Hard reset.

Second to last is often a good idea, but can on occasion lead to more
problems.

Don't have a definitive answer, but try disabling Speedstep in UEFI
config power save options, and/or disable power saving or making it more
backwards compatible. Also heard of Nvidia cards causing similar
behavior, so disable.


-- 
- don't top post
Mailing list etiquette:
- trim quoted reply to only relevant portions
- when possible, copy and paste text instead of screenshots

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/aa8919c3-4e98-7f0c-3ea8-3bad129124f4%40danwin1210.me.


[qubes-users] Installation fails in many different ways

2019-12-31 Thread fiftyfourthparallel
Happy new year, fellow Qubers!

Well, I'm not really a Quber --not yet-- but maybe you can help me join 
your ranks.

I went out and bought a Dell Inspiron 5593 --a shiny new laptop with an 
i7-1065G7*-- for the express purpose of installing Qubes on it, but found 
out during BIOS setup that the CPU simply doesn't support legacy boot. This 
may or may not be relevant to my problem installing via USB:

Using 4.0.2-rc3, I managed to get all the way to actual installation after 
battling several major issues (like m.2 not appearing), but it seems like 
I've hit a brick wall. Installation freezes/fails during installation, but 
where and how varied among all attempts. 

*Attempt 1: *Slowly set a root password and username during installation. 
Cursor freezes during the end of setting these, but the keyboard stayed 
alive. Tabbed and entered my way back out, only to be greeted with a prompt 
saying that the installation encountered a fatal error: "DNF error: Error 
unpacking rpm package webkitgtk4.2.18.3-1.fc25.X86_64". (9xx/1025, I 
think). Keyboard still useable. Hard reset.

*Attempt 2:* Quickly set passwords. Cursor still alive when done. 7xx/1025, 
cursor freezes, but keyboard remained alive. Kept tabbing to verify that 
keyboard was still alive. 9xx/1025, installation stalls but the pinwheel 
(?) kept spinning and keyboard was still alive. Waited twenty minutes--no 
joy. Hard reset.

*Attempt 3:* Didn't set any passwords as an experiment. Walked away, and 
came back to a completely frozen installation. (Early installation; no 
number). Hard reset.

*Attempt 4: *Quickly set passwords. Kept wiggling cursor to find out when 
it freezes. Observed increasing cursor lag starting at 804/1025. Cursor and 
pinwheel freezes at 808/1025. Dead keyboard. Dead installation. Hurt 
feelings. Hard liquor. Hard reset.

*Attempt 5:* Didn't set any passwords. Cursor lag 815/1025. Cursor frozen 
at 834/1025. A wild fatal error appeared: "DNF error: Error unpacking rpm 
package kbg-2.0.3-3.fc24.x86_64". Keyboard alive.

*Attempt 6:* Booted from the ANACONDA partition. Quickly set passwords. 
Cursor lag at 826/1025. Cursor frozen at 830/1025, pinwheel spinning. A 
wild fatal error appeared: "DNF error: Error unpacking rpm package 
mesa-dri-drivers-17.05-3.fc25.x86_64". Keyboard alive. Pride, barely.


Not sure what's going on here or how to resolve this, so I'd appreciate any 
ideas.



**Since I wanted hardware-level Spectre mitigation*

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"qubes-users" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/94e988dd-c0e3-4370-b644-e38b74e3e8ba%40googlegroups.com.