Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 4:55:54 PM UTC+1, unman wrote: > > > It would be helpful to know which packages you installed. > When I do this I install the minimum set of packages needed. > Fortunately, you do have a clone to fall back on. > I wasn't able to figure out yet what the minimum set of packages is. The description of the individual packages is quite minimalistic and I haven't yet found any information about what packages are required for what functionality. I already started building my work environment in a template based VM and I don't plan to invest more time into integrating my old VM. Thanks for your support anyway. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/43be09ad-f7f5-458c-a822-f6cf0893a73d%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 02:52:03AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 10:45:48 AM UTC+1, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 4:11:56 PM UTC+1, unman wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:20:31AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > If you are using Debian 10, you can add the repository to the qube, > >> > > update, and then select the qubes packages that you want. I suggest > >> > > using aptitude, as it should make the process somewhat clearer. > >> > > > >> > > You can get the repository details from > >> > > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list > >> > > on any of your debian-10 based qubes. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, that was the info I was looking for. > >> > > >> > > >> > > There is *every* chance that you may bork your qube playing about > >> with > >> > > packages, so I suggest you take a clone before you start, so you > >> always > >> > > have a clean qube to fall back on. > >> > > > >> > > I can recreate it from the original VM again anyway, but I found the > >> clone > >> > feature handy already. > >> > Thanks for the suggestion. > >> > > >> > >> Suggest you dont use any of the global packages like "recommended" - > >> pick and choose from the base packages instead. > >> At minimum you should have copy/paste working. > >> > > > > I tried that now but run into problems. > > > > When I run an application from the dom0 menu, the window shows only weird > > patterns that change when I resize the window > > like if the wrong driver for a graphics adapter were used. > > > > When I start the VM the Debian boot screen with the console output about > > the boot progress is shown, > > but when it's done booting this window disappears. > > > > Is there a way to prevent this window from disappearing? > > > > > Ok, I found that one. > "Run in debug mode" does that. I thought I already tried that before. > Also qvm-start-gui --force-stubdomain showed that window. > > X isn't started in that window anymore and it shows only the output from > the boot progress, so this doesn't help. > It would be helpful to know which packages you installed. When I do this I install the minimum set of packages needed. Fortunately, you do have a clone to fall back on. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200205155546.GA20520%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 10:45:48 AM UTC+1, Günter Zöchbauer wrote: > > On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 4:11:56 PM UTC+1, unman wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:20:31AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > If you are using Debian 10, you can add the repository to the qube, >> > > update, and then select the qubes packages that you want. I suggest >> > > using aptitude, as it should make the process somewhat clearer. >> > > >> > > You can get the repository details from >> > > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list >> > > on any of your debian-10 based qubes. >> > > >> > > >> > Thanks, that was the info I was looking for. >> > >> > >> > > There is *every* chance that you may bork your qube playing about >> with >> > > packages, so I suggest you take a clone before you start, so you >> always >> > > have a clean qube to fall back on. >> > > >> > > I can recreate it from the original VM again anyway, but I found the >> clone >> > feature handy already. >> > Thanks for the suggestion. >> > >> >> Suggest you dont use any of the global packages like "recommended" - >> pick and choose from the base packages instead. >> At minimum you should have copy/paste working. >> > > I tried that now but run into problems. > > When I run an application from the dom0 menu, the window shows only weird > patterns that change when I resize the window > like if the wrong driver for a graphics adapter were used. > > When I start the VM the Debian boot screen with the console output about > the boot progress is shown, > but when it's done booting this window disappears. > > Is there a way to prevent this window from disappearing? > > Ok, I found that one. "Run in debug mode" does that. I thought I already tried that before. Also qvm-start-gui --force-stubdomain showed that window. X isn't started in that window anymore and it shows only the output from the boot progress, so this doesn't help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e91b61dd-17ab-4b57-a285-c69a424c0656%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 4:11:56 PM UTC+1, unman wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:20:31AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If you are using Debian 10, you can add the repository to the qube, > > > update, and then select the qubes packages that you want. I suggest > > > using aptitude, as it should make the process somewhat clearer. > > > > > > You can get the repository details from > > > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list > > > on any of your debian-10 based qubes. > > > > > > > > Thanks, that was the info I was looking for. > > > > > > > There is *every* chance that you may bork your qube playing about with > > > packages, so I suggest you take a clone before you start, so you > always > > > have a clean qube to fall back on. > > > > > > I can recreate it from the original VM again anyway, but I found the > clone > > feature handy already. > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > > > Suggest you dont use any of the global packages like "recommended" - > pick and choose from the base packages instead. > At minimum you should have copy/paste working. > I tried that now but run into problems. When I run an application from the dom0 menu, the window shows only weird patterns that change when I resize the window like if the wrong driver for a graphics adapter were used. When I start the VM the Debian boot screen with the console output about the boot progress is shown, but when it's done booting this window disappears. Is there a way to prevent this window from disappearing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2c9d8aa8-cb5e-4fd8-bae6-160883ae8b7b%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 1:06:37 PM UTC+1, unman wrote: > > Please try not to top-post - scroll to the bottom of the message you are > replying to before starting typing. > > If you are using Debian 10, you can add the repository to the qube, > update, and then select the qubes packages that you want. I suggest > using aptitude, as it should make the process somewhat clearer. > > You can get the repository details from > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list > on any of your debian-10 based qubes. > > There is *every* chance that you may bork your qube playing about with > packages, so I suggest you take a clone before you start, so you always > have a clean qube to fall back on. > > unman > For others who might stumble upon this post I found https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4212#issuecomment-420254317 very helpful for getting the qubes debian repo added. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3aec9687-2038-4445-8d82-50be4e5af3b1%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 04:20:31AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > > > > > > > If you are using Debian 10, you can add the repository to the qube, > > update, and then select the qubes packages that you want. I suggest > > using aptitude, as it should make the process somewhat clearer. > > > > You can get the repository details from > > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list > > on any of your debian-10 based qubes. > > > > > Thanks, that was the info I was looking for. > > > > There is *every* chance that you may bork your qube playing about with > > packages, so I suggest you take a clone before you start, so you always > > have a clean qube to fall back on. > > > > I can recreate it from the original VM again anyway, but I found the clone > feature handy already. > Thanks for the suggestion. > Suggest you dont use any of the global packages like "recommended" - pick and choose from the base packages instead. At minimum you should have copy/paste working. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200131151151.GA25243%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
> > > If you are using Debian 10, you can add the repository to the qube, > update, and then select the qubes packages that you want. I suggest > using aptitude, as it should make the process somewhat clearer. > > You can get the repository details from > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list > on any of your debian-10 based qubes. > > Thanks, that was the info I was looking for. > There is *every* chance that you may bork your qube playing about with > packages, so I suggest you take a clone before you start, so you always > have a clean qube to fall back on. > > I can recreate it from the original VM again anyway, but I found the clone feature handy already. Thanks for the suggestion. > unman > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2a4a750b-69cb-48bd-8dd0-2255b86c9ff2%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 03:40:31AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > Thanks a lot! > > The suggested changes broke X11, > but after removing the changes, the KDE display settings suddenly showed > resolutions up to Full-HD which is alread a huge improvement. > > When I tried to get higher I run into the same issue as > https://tutel.me/c/unix/questions/505863/qubesos+install+qubes+support+tools+in+hvm+to+fix+screen+resolution+and+copy+paste > > I have yet to try installing Qubes tools. > Do you mean https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/minimal/#debian? > > Guest OS is Debian 10. > > Please try not to top-post - scroll to the bottom of the message you are replying to before starting typing. If you are using Debian 10, you can add the repository to the qube, update, and then select the qubes packages that you want. I suggest using aptitude, as it should make the process somewhat clearer. You can get the repository details from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/qubes-r4.list on any of your debian-10 based qubes. There is *every* chance that you may bork your qube playing about with packages, so I suggest you take a clone before you start, so you always have a clean qube to fall back on. unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200131120633.GA24385%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
Thanks a lot! The suggested changes broke X11, but after removing the changes, the KDE display settings suddenly showed resolutions up to Full-HD which is alread a huge improvement. When I tried to get higher I run into the same issue as https://tutel.me/c/unix/questions/505863/qubesos+install+qubes+support+tools+in+hvm+to+fix+screen+resolution+and+copy+paste I have yet to try installing Qubes tools. Do you mean https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/minimal/#debian? Guest OS is Debian 10. On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 11:25:07 AM UTC+1, unman wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:37:04AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I used to work in a VirtualBox VM. > > Now I got a new machine and on that occasion I started fresh with with > > Qubes OS (like it so far). > > > > I want to keep using the existing Virtualbox VM in Qubes. > > Perhaps I'll start with a new Qubes VM from scratch later if that > provides > > any benefits, > > but for now I just want to be productive again. > > > > I was able to migrate the VM and have it running in Qubes already, but > only > > the full desktop in a single host window. That's fine for now, but > > > > the max guest resolution I'm able to configure is 1920x1080 on a 4k > > host. > > > > Is there a way to fix that? > > > > Is there a way to make > > > > - copy-paste between other AppVMs and this VM work? > > - running individual apps in their own host windows work (like in other > > Qubes VMs) without creating the VM from scratch? > > > > Art there other things to consider? > > > > Thanks! > > > What is the guest OS? > Did you read this page for Linux? > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/linux-hvm-tips > > Installing Qubes tools in to a HVM will work in some cases. Ubuntu works > fine for copy/paste, for example. > > What you have now is an HVM. You *might* be able to install relevant > Qubes tools and run it is seamless mode. Depends on what OS. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6cc226d8-22c9-4fa6-be5c-9afc76815350%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:37:04AM -0800, G??nter Z??chbauer wrote: > Hi, > > I used to work in a VirtualBox VM. > Now I got a new machine and on that occasion I started fresh with with > Qubes OS (like it so far). > > I want to keep using the existing Virtualbox VM in Qubes. > Perhaps I'll start with a new Qubes VM from scratch later if that provides > any benefits, > but for now I just want to be productive again. > > I was able to migrate the VM and have it running in Qubes already, but only > the full desktop in a single host window. That's fine for now, but > > the max guest resolution I'm able to configure is 1920x1080 on a 4k > host. > > Is there a way to fix that? > > Is there a way to make > > - copy-paste between other AppVMs and this VM work? > - running individual apps in their own host windows work (like in other > Qubes VMs) without creating the VM from scratch? > > Art there other things to consider? > > Thanks! > What is the guest OS? Did you read this page for Linux? https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/linux-hvm-tips Installing Qubes tools in to a HVM will work in some cases. Ubuntu works fine for copy/paste, for example. What you have now is an HVM. You *might* be able to install relevant Qubes tools and run it is seamless mode. Depends on what OS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20200130102503.GA18502%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
[qubes-users] Integrate existing VirtualBox VM into Qubes
Hi, I used to work in a VirtualBox VM. Now I got a new machine and on that occasion I started fresh with with Qubes OS (like it so far). I want to keep using the existing Virtualbox VM in Qubes. Perhaps I'll start with a new Qubes VM from scratch later if that provides any benefits, but for now I just want to be productive again. I was able to migrate the VM and have it running in Qubes already, but only the full desktop in a single host window. That's fine for now, but the max guest resolution I'm able to configure is 1920x1080 on a 4k host. Is there a way to fix that? Is there a way to make - copy-paste between other AppVMs and this VM work? - running individual apps in their own host windows work (like in other Qubes VMs) without creating the VM from scratch? Art there other things to consider? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/154c273b-f86a-4960-9ce8-4c230083e07e%40googlegroups.com.
