Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi or Interrupt Remapping
On 02/05/2018 05:20 PM, brendan.h...@gmail.com wrote: PS - The W520 also is the last W5xx to support a nice Thinkpad keyboard. :) I too recommend the W520 if you want a mobile workstation style laptop, with coreboot you can also buy and install a quad core ivy bridge CPU. The G505S however is more secure due to not having ME/PSP, but the build quality isn't as good and there is no dock/2nd battery option. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d591a67e-361b-f974-caf1-2b233af825de%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi or Interrupt Remapping
On Mon, February 5, 2018 9:39 pm, Utility Panel wrote: > Ah. I hadn't considered the Coreboot option. My understanding is that the > chipset is at fault. > > The only documentation I've found was forwarded to me from another user > on this list. It explains a solution that Zen recommended for this > particular hardware problem; but as far as I can tell, the best-available > fix is still not capable of resolving the issue sufficiently for Qubes > 4.0: > > > https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX136517 Unfortunately, I think you're right. Intel chipset issue- "recommended workaround of Intel for the errata is to disable the Interrupt remapping feature itself". Good work, Intel! Don't think Coreboot would help there. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b9b4781bb4e05db8d867e0695d99b842.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi or Interrupt Remapping
On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 4:33:57 PM UTC-5, awokd wrote: > On Mon, February 5, 2018 9:20 pm, Utility Panel wrote: > > On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 4:12:50 PM UTC-5, Rusty Bird wrote: > > >>> Can anyone tell me what I might expect without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi and > >>> Interrupt Remapping? > > > > > > > Anyone interested in a pair of lightly used HP Z800 server work stations? > > Great machines. Cannot run Qubes 4.0 correctly. > > Is the CPU in those not capable of it, or is it a manufacturer BIOS issue? > If the latter, you might check to see if you can Coreboot it. Sometimes > that can fix these issues too. Ah. I hadn't considered the Coreboot option. My understanding is that the chipset is at fault. The only documentation I've found was forwarded to me from another user on this list. It explains a solution that Zen recommended for this particular hardware problem; but as far as I can tell, the best-available fix is still not capable of resolving the issue sufficiently for Qubes 4.0: https://support.citrix.com/article/CTX136517 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/03b397c8-c259-404f-9e0c-087bf5ce7e84%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi or Interrupt Remapping
On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 4:12:50 PM UTC-5, Rusty Bird wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Utility Panel: > > Can anyone tell me what I might expect without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi and > > Interrupt Remapping? > > https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#can-i-install-qubes-4x-on-a-system-without-vt-x-or-vt-d > > Rusty > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJaeMi+XxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w > ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4NEI1OUJDRkM2MkIxMjlGRTFCMDZEMDQ0 > NjlENzhGNDdBQUYyQURGAAoJEEadePR6ryrfeb4P/R7K8LDbdSkKYs+B1uLbNTyz > 2YwohgIu89FSCM/wq8yamJ9OnQFLRlhM7yGhcjsqMaPiBCS0BOdlR463kTn6tWHy > 893xxeor7h96XymKsrFr/7OP61zDsnO/4wp7LE7bynDxBgRc1RjR3KjZ48a1HOz5 > TxWDliJlxHq+5Bk9XwOCDO1eTFUyfuZ5opWGqL3+4c9ZV52nk4aEYkizHxFFiWA5 > WZlZN/O6HHepNkqtH+nNYV8BjRsueBzI8WaqO/R3adfppufrCaQHIndqeQYl06JL > KPZ87ANXHLoojNG4vomxRrAnSVB9Ho0yj4EWTU7UMzX/0UCfJrZp7wssIGDGjKbm > una0PQbOJckOcwGQoq9YClVgSQPCFADgnuj9fn9nwmJKLJZvL+dczGjPDw15vXDQ > NzjVLcwo+755tLC+zJ6bXoPS4O4yDEAcmj+EolnGGxHidOSXZoRBvWQT0OH4/0ku > wLSnEIZDg4PEmcsgwfxwtF90inlA/n2tJwQkL839nWAJvTnrza3rBAwn7hCIAwjq > qpLewtLTH87/d0GErjtRTmMLOw4vCmlh/bsDGLKtdrT2R0hD6jhem5wt+dSvrjaV > jWXfB64Jz/0IuWjoEOez2yW8z4ALfv4856dvAXXBjaXS6IBK7cf2Rr8Reu76MmOs > zkUB451uJxd4oUQntu2P > =/p4t > -END PGP SIGNATURE- Oh, darn. Worst case scenario. Anyone interested in a pair of lightly used HP Z800 server work stations? Great machines. Cannot run Qubes 4.0 correctly. -sigh- Thanks for the link, Rusty. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/67ec2832-59de-43dd-9e0b-91c58d94d37c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi or Interrupt Remapping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Utility Panel: > Can anyone tell me what I might expect without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi and > Interrupt Remapping? https://www.qubes-os.org/faq/#can-i-install-qubes-4x-on-a-system-without-vt-x-or-vt-d Rusty -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJaeMi+XxSAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ4NEI1OUJDRkM2MkIxMjlGRTFCMDZEMDQ0 NjlENzhGNDdBQUYyQURGAAoJEEadePR6ryrfeb4P/R7K8LDbdSkKYs+B1uLbNTyz 2YwohgIu89FSCM/wq8yamJ9OnQFLRlhM7yGhcjsqMaPiBCS0BOdlR463kTn6tWHy 893xxeor7h96XymKsrFr/7OP61zDsnO/4wp7LE7bynDxBgRc1RjR3KjZ48a1HOz5 TxWDliJlxHq+5Bk9XwOCDO1eTFUyfuZ5opWGqL3+4c9ZV52nk4aEYkizHxFFiWA5 WZlZN/O6HHepNkqtH+nNYV8BjRsueBzI8WaqO/R3adfppufrCaQHIndqeQYl06JL KPZ87ANXHLoojNG4vomxRrAnSVB9Ho0yj4EWTU7UMzX/0UCfJrZp7wssIGDGjKbm una0PQbOJckOcwGQoq9YClVgSQPCFADgnuj9fn9nwmJKLJZvL+dczGjPDw15vXDQ NzjVLcwo+755tLC+zJ6bXoPS4O4yDEAcmj+EolnGGxHidOSXZoRBvWQT0OH4/0ku wLSnEIZDg4PEmcsgwfxwtF90inlA/n2tJwQkL839nWAJvTnrza3rBAwn7hCIAwjq qpLewtLTH87/d0GErjtRTmMLOw4vCmlh/bsDGLKtdrT2R0hD6jhem5wt+dSvrjaV jWXfB64Jz/0IuWjoEOez2yW8z4ALfv4856dvAXXBjaXS6IBK7cf2Rr8Reu76MmOs zkUB451uJxd4oUQntu2P =/p4t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20180205211230.GA1841%40mutt. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi or Interrupt Remapping
I installed Qubes 4.0-rc4 on a machine with hardware that cannot support the following two features IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi Interrupt Remapping The installation went fine. I simply continued installing after the error message appeared just after the installation ISO completed its hardware check. After installation, I was able to boot up to the desktop without any errors. I didn't do much additional testing because I thought that there might be a way to configure the BIOS on my machine to support the missing features; but alas, there is no such way. Consequently, if I ever want to run 4.0, I am left with the following two choices: A) Install 4.0 on this machine and live without the missing features. B) Get a new computer that supports the missing features. I prefer option A. Can anyone tell me what I might expect without IOMMU/VT-d/AMD-Vi and Interrupt Remapping? I've heard that PCI passthrough won't work, but I could live without it. What other problems might I encounter? Will 4.0 work without those features, or must I get a new machine to run 4.0? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/00a7afc5-1b59-4079-bc4e-d8a6096c5d19%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
