Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-02 Thread charly LEMMINKÄINEN
Le samedi 2 décembre 2017 00:07:44 UTC+1, charly LEMMINKÄINEN a écrit :
> Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 21:33:52 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> > W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 19:34:14 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
> > napisał:
> > > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 18:53:50 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> > > > W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly 
> > > > LEMMINKÄINEN napisał:
> > > > > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > > > > > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes 
> > > > > > > r3.2
> > > > > > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM 
> > > > > > > but for
> > > > > > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > > > > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the 
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > base.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in 
> > > > > audio would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you 
> > > > > can listen to a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the 
> > > > > same time listen to a podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb 
> > > > > headset
> > > > > So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset 
> > > > > as the built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes 
> > > > > doesn't allow it? Or Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe 
> > > > > my headset is just not properly recognized?
> > > > 
> > > > Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a 
> > > > specific qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to 
> > > > move audio backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.
> > > 
> > > so you're telling me that your headset is in usb and it's working ? 
> > > Because mine doesn't work, so are you sure that it is supposed to work 
> > > system-wide? 
> > > I understand that it would be more secure to have contained the audio to 
> > > one vm but right now it's not my purpose.
> > 
> > It is working in a specific vm if I assign it to the vm via qvm-usb. Was 
> > working systemwide when I had USB controllers in dom0
> 
> okey so it's mine then which is not recognized or something. Which one do you 
> use ? Should I wait for a kernel update?

ok apparently I had a problem with my headset but it's now available across the 
whole system

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-01 Thread charly LEMMINKÄINEN
Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 21:33:52 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 19:34:14 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
> napisał:
> > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 18:53:50 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> > > W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly 
> > > LEMMINKÄINEN napisał:
> > > > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > > > > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes 
> > > > > > r3.2
> > > > > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM 
> > > > > > but for
> > > > > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > > > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the 
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > base.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> > > > 
> > > > Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in 
> > > > audio would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you 
> > > > can listen to a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same 
> > > > time listen to a podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb 
> > > > headset
> > > > So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as 
> > > > the built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't 
> > > > allow it? Or Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset 
> > > > is just not properly recognized?
> > > 
> > > Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a 
> > > specific qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to 
> > > move audio backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.
> > 
> > so you're telling me that your headset is in usb and it's working ? Because 
> > mine doesn't work, so are you sure that it is supposed to work system-wide? 
> > I understand that it would be more secure to have contained the audio to 
> > one vm but right now it's not my purpose.
> 
> It is working in a specific vm if I assign it to the vm via qvm-usb. Was 
> working systemwide when I had USB controllers in dom0

okey so it's mine then which is not recognized or something. Which one do you 
use ? Should I wait for a kernel update? 

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-01 Thread Yethal
W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 19:34:14 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
napisał:
> Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 18:53:50 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> > W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
> > napisał:
> > > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > > > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2
> > > > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but 
> > > > > for
> > > > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the 
> > > > > system
> > > > > base.
> > > > 
> > > > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> > > 
> > > Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in audio 
> > > would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you can 
> > > listen to a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same time 
> > > listen to a podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb headset
> > > So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as 
> > > the built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't 
> > > allow it? Or Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset 
> > > is just not properly recognized?
> > 
> > Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a 
> > specific qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to 
> > move audio backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.
> 
> so you're telling me that your headset is in usb and it's working ? Because 
> mine doesn't work, so are you sure that it is supposed to work system-wide? 
> I understand that it would be more secure to have contained the audio to one 
> vm but right now it's not my purpose.

It is working in a specific vm if I assign it to the vm via qvm-usb. Was 
working systemwide when I had USB controllers in dom0

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-01 Thread charly LEMMINKÄINEN
Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 18:53:50 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
> napisał:
> > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > > >
> > > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2
> > > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but 
> > > > for
> > > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system
> > > > base.
> > > 
> > > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> > 
> > Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in audio 
> > would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you can listen 
> > to a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same time listen to 
> > a podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb headset
> > So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as the 
> > built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't allow it? 
> > Or Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset is just not 
> > properly recognized?
> 
> Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a 
> specific qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to move 
> audio backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.

so you're telling me that your headset is in usb and it's working ? Because 
mine doesn't work, so are you sure that it is supposed to work system-wide? 
I understand that it would be more secure to have contained the audio to one vm 
but right now it's not my purpose.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-01 Thread Yethal
W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
napisał:
> Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > >
> > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2
> > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but for
> > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system
> > > base.
> > 
> > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> 
> Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in audio 
> would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you can listen to 
> a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same time listen to a 
> podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb headset
> So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as the 
> built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't allow it? Or 
> Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset is just not 
> properly recognized?

Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a specific 
qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to move audio 
backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-01 Thread charly LEMMINKÄINEN
Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> >
> > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2
> > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but for
> > general purpose across the whole system?
> > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system
> > base.
> 
> Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?

Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in audio would 
be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you can listen to a 
youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same time listen to a podcast 
or a video in another vm, and not a usb headset
So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as the 
built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't allow it? Or 
Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset is just not properly 
recognized? 

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-01 Thread awokd
On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
>
> sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2
> does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but for
> general purpose across the whole system?
> pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system
> base.

Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

2017-12-01 Thread charly LEMMINKÄINEN

sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2 does 
even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but for general 
purpose across the whole system? 
pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system base.

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