Re: [qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 7:42:54 PM UTC+1, Chris Laprise wrote: > On 02/27/2018 12:42 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 6:08:57 PM UTC+1, awokd wrote: > >> On Tue, February 27, 2018 5:00 pm, Yuraeitha wrote: > >> > >>> I'm working on an update script btw, which might solve issues like these. > >> > >> I haven't tested it but I noticed there's a clean action, so you can do: > >> > >> sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=clean > >> > >> Not exactly sure what it does but it might simplify things if it works. > > > > Yes that is a good trick, but Marek recently told me not to use it though, > > from what I understand it's because it causes extra load on the server, > > which is bad if too many people does it. So the clean command is probably > > really good if only used sparingly once in a while. But maybe it could be > > used in the script with some kind of countdown, like for example if it only > > cleans once a month? But would that be useful though? > > > > I didn't mention or show the script to Marek, as it was only a few days > > afterwords I started working on it. But he did tell me to use --refresh > > instead when he saw I used the clean command. I found the --refresh flag in > > fedora template, but I couldn't get it to work in dom0. Though I found > > --check-only in the qubes-dom0-update manual, presumably it's the same as > > --refresh and only updates the metadata? Seemingly debian does it all > > automatically already too. uh, too many questions that needs sorted out. I > > definitely need these sorted out with a degree of certainty before I give > > this script to other people, I don't want to risk messing someone elses > > Qubes system up with it, that would suck. > > > > So maybe clean is not needed if metadata are cleaned? I believe the clean > > command works very well indeed, but from what I understood from Marek at > > the time, it might overdo it. > > > > I'll see if I can upload the script when I get home later today so you can > > see it (I'm on the road atm), I'll post a link here so it's easier to > > discuss any potential pitfalls in it. > > > > FWIW, I'm working on porting my updater to 4.0. The existing version > already uses "clean packages" and I may add --refresh (which has worked > for me) as well. > > -- > > Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net > https://github.com/tasket > https://twitter.com/ttaskett > PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 Neat! It's good to have better solutions around :) I just checked yours out by following your github link. Your Qubes updater is much more advanced than mine, I won't even pretend I can fully read it. My script is essentially just a compile of binary commands, so yours is definitely superior. Since I promised to upload it, I will still do so, though it's now probably better suited for learning/educational purposes instead, now when there are better options available :) https://github.com/Aekez/scripting-qubes/blob/master/check-Qubes-updates-by-metadata.sh As noted before, despite that the script works, it's still experimental/unfinished/untested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e170e4e9-68ff-4a74-ae64-7d51aa84f72b%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On 02/27/2018 12:42 PM, Yuraeitha wrote: On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 6:08:57 PM UTC+1, awokd wrote: On Tue, February 27, 2018 5:00 pm, Yuraeitha wrote: I'm working on an update script btw, which might solve issues like these. I haven't tested it but I noticed there's a clean action, so you can do: sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=clean Not exactly sure what it does but it might simplify things if it works. Yes that is a good trick, but Marek recently told me not to use it though, from what I understand it's because it causes extra load on the server, which is bad if too many people does it. So the clean command is probably really good if only used sparingly once in a while. But maybe it could be used in the script with some kind of countdown, like for example if it only cleans once a month? But would that be useful though? I didn't mention or show the script to Marek, as it was only a few days afterwords I started working on it. But he did tell me to use --refresh instead when he saw I used the clean command. I found the --refresh flag in fedora template, but I couldn't get it to work in dom0. Though I found --check-only in the qubes-dom0-update manual, presumably it's the same as --refresh and only updates the metadata? Seemingly debian does it all automatically already too. uh, too many questions that needs sorted out. I definitely need these sorted out with a degree of certainty before I give this script to other people, I don't want to risk messing someone elses Qubes system up with it, that would suck. So maybe clean is not needed if metadata are cleaned? I believe the clean command works very well indeed, but from what I understood from Marek at the time, it might overdo it. I'll see if I can upload the script when I get home later today so you can see it (I'm on the road atm), I'll post a link here so it's easier to discuss any potential pitfalls in it. FWIW, I'm working on porting my updater to 4.0. The existing version already uses "clean packages" and I may add --refresh (which has worked for me) as well. -- Chris Laprise, tas...@posteo.net https://github.com/tasket https://twitter.com/ttaskett PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB 4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0ce5177c-d61a-975e-a95d-7bcbb78e4f44%40posteo.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 6:08:57 PM UTC+1, awokd wrote: > On Tue, February 27, 2018 5:00 pm, Yuraeitha wrote: > > > I'm working on an update script btw, which might solve issues like these. > > I haven't tested it but I noticed there's a clean action, so you can do: > > sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=clean > > Not exactly sure what it does but it might simplify things if it works. Yes that is a good trick, but Marek recently told me not to use it though, from what I understand it's because it causes extra load on the server, which is bad if too many people does it. So the clean command is probably really good if only used sparingly once in a while. But maybe it could be used in the script with some kind of countdown, like for example if it only cleans once a month? But would that be useful though? I didn't mention or show the script to Marek, as it was only a few days afterwords I started working on it. But he did tell me to use --refresh instead when he saw I used the clean command. I found the --refresh flag in fedora template, but I couldn't get it to work in dom0. Though I found --check-only in the qubes-dom0-update manual, presumably it's the same as --refresh and only updates the metadata? Seemingly debian does it all automatically already too. uh, too many questions that needs sorted out. I definitely need these sorted out with a degree of certainty before I give this script to other people, I don't want to risk messing someone elses Qubes system up with it, that would suck. So maybe clean is not needed if metadata are cleaned? I believe the clean command works very well indeed, but from what I understood from Marek at the time, it might overdo it. I'll see if I can upload the script when I get home later today so you can see it (I'm on the road atm), I'll post a link here so it's easier to discuss any potential pitfalls in it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/fb69d45e-6574-4ec8-ae1c-91d2cdff6fed%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Tue, February 27, 2018 5:00 pm, Yuraeitha wrote: > I'm working on an update script btw, which might solve issues like these. I haven't tested it but I noticed there's a clean action, so you can do: sudo qubes-dom0-update --action=clean Not exactly sure what it does but it might simplify things if it works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/6d1032049a8aeee762f1da9391c5df76.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 5:28:01 PM UTC+1, Alex Dubois wrote: > On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:13:43 UTC, Yuraeitha wrote: > > On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:45:45 PM UTC+1, Alex Dubois wrote: > > > On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:34:00 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > > > On Friday, 12 February 2016 22:08:05 UTC, m.3.7.31.127...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > I accidentally ran qubes-dom0-update qubes*testing and qubes > > > > > downloaded testing packages. I didn't install them, and I don't want > > > > > to. However, the packages are still cached and I have no way to > > > > > update qubes now without installing the testing packages. > > > > > > > > > > How can I clear the package cache? > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I had the exact problem in this thread. I wanted to check if my > > > > qubes-dom0-update was broken or not. so enabled testing, which > > > > downloaded packages, I let it finished but then did not install. > > > > > > > > Searched the past threads and found this one. > > > > > > > > Applied the --clean option > > > > Which seem to have done some things as I had now 5 packages that it > > > > wanted to install. > > > > Which seems to confirm that qubes-dom0-update was stuck, also I am not > > > > sure (or maybe these 5 packages were release during my experiment on > > > > the current repo). > > > > > > > > Is there a way in github to see the list of packages and the associated > > > > commits for each repo? > > > > > > Sorry it was 8 packages. > > > > > > I have cleared both rpm and repodata, and with the clean option was > > > offered to install these 8 packages. which I did. > > > > Have you cleaned your templates too to keep them up-to-date and in sync > > with dom0? > > Good heads-up. Just did, and there was also 25 packages (6 of which on > qubes-vm-r4.0-current). > > I am not going to speculate at this point if Qubes OS team released some > updates this afternoon or not. Good you got it in sync :) I'm working on an update script btw, which might solve issues like these. But while the script works pretty smoothly (by all looks of it, it works in, at least in controlled conditions), I still need to sort out reliability questions and redundancy mechanics, as well as appeal and looks. Also need critical eyes to spot dangerous dragons in the script (mistakes that I made). It's kind of a simple script though, but I'm not an expert, so who knows if I messed something up. If these remaining issues can be worked out, then I'll share it on my github page. I also got exams irl atm though, so I might not work so fast on this, plus my lack of scripting skills slows me down too. Hopefully it will work though, my goal is to make updating possible for people who have no background in Linux/Qubes, like for example to the QubesTV project I'm trying to get going. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7b9dc93a-ad6a-4ecf-93e0-356e17606f3c%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:13:43 UTC, Yuraeitha wrote: > On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:45:45 PM UTC+1, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:34:00 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > > On Friday, 12 February 2016 22:08:05 UTC, m.3.7.31.127...@gmail.com > > > wrote: > > > > I accidentally ran qubes-dom0-update qubes*testing and qubes downloaded > > > > testing packages. I didn't install them, and I don't want to. However, > > > > the packages are still cached and I have no way to update qubes now > > > > without installing the testing packages. > > > > > > > > How can I clear the package cache? > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I had the exact problem in this thread. I wanted to check if my > > > qubes-dom0-update was broken or not. so enabled testing, which downloaded > > > packages, I let it finished but then did not install. > > > > > > Searched the past threads and found this one. > > > > > > Applied the --clean option > > > Which seem to have done some things as I had now 5 packages that it > > > wanted to install. > > > Which seems to confirm that qubes-dom0-update was stuck, also I am not > > > sure (or maybe these 5 packages were release during my experiment on the > > > current repo). > > > > > > Is there a way in github to see the list of packages and the associated > > > commits for each repo? > > > > Sorry it was 8 packages. > > > > I have cleared both rpm and repodata, and with the clean option was offered > > to install these 8 packages. which I did. > > Have you cleaned your templates too to keep them up-to-date and in sync with > dom0? Good heads-up. Just did, and there was also 25 packages (6 of which on qubes-vm-r4.0-current). I am not going to speculate at this point if Qubes OS team released some updates this afternoon or not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20cc5724-956e-41cd-bd5b-e60d1107254e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Tuesday, February 27, 2018 at 4:45:45 PM UTC+1, Alex Dubois wrote: > On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:34:00 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > > On Friday, 12 February 2016 22:08:05 UTC, m.3.7.31.127...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I accidentally ran qubes-dom0-update qubes*testing and qubes downloaded > > > testing packages. I didn't install them, and I don't want to. However, > > > the packages are still cached and I have no way to update qubes now > > > without installing the testing packages. > > > > > > How can I clear the package cache? > > > > Hi, > > > > I had the exact problem in this thread. I wanted to check if my > > qubes-dom0-update was broken or not. so enabled testing, which downloaded > > packages, I let it finished but then did not install. > > > > Searched the past threads and found this one. > > > > Applied the --clean option > > Which seem to have done some things as I had now 5 packages that it wanted > > to install. > > Which seems to confirm that qubes-dom0-update was stuck, also I am not sure > > (or maybe these 5 packages were release during my experiment on the current > > repo). > > > > Is there a way in github to see the list of packages and the associated > > commits for each repo? > > Sorry it was 8 packages. > > I have cleared both rpm and repodata, and with the clean option was offered > to install these 8 packages. which I did. Have you cleaned your templates too to keep them up-to-date and in sync with dom0? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ec36080b-5eab-4c1d-949a-f41f6213c9be%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Tuesday, 27 February 2018 15:34:00 UTC, Alex Dubois wrote: > On Friday, 12 February 2016 22:08:05 UTC, m.3.7.31.127...@gmail.com wrote: > > I accidentally ran qubes-dom0-update qubes*testing and qubes downloaded > > testing packages. I didn't install them, and I don't want to. However, the > > packages are still cached and I have no way to update qubes now without > > installing the testing packages. > > > > How can I clear the package cache? > > Hi, > > I had the exact problem in this thread. I wanted to check if my > qubes-dom0-update was broken or not. so enabled testing, which downloaded > packages, I let it finished but then did not install. > > Searched the past threads and found this one. > > Applied the --clean option > Which seem to have done some things as I had now 5 packages that it wanted to > install. > Which seems to confirm that qubes-dom0-update was stuck, also I am not sure > (or maybe these 5 packages were release during my experiment on the current > repo). > > Is there a way in github to see the list of packages and the associated > commits for each repo? Sorry it was 8 packages. I have cleared both rpm and repodata, and with the clean option was offered to install these 8 packages. which I did. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/881cf787-4f3e-44de-8ca9-bc11f77ce0f9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Clearing qubes-dom0-cached packages
On Friday, 12 February 2016 22:08:05 UTC, m.3.7.31.127...@gmail.com wrote: > I accidentally ran qubes-dom0-update qubes*testing and qubes downloaded > testing packages. I didn't install them, and I don't want to. However, the > packages are still cached and I have no way to update qubes now without > installing the testing packages. > > How can I clear the package cache? Hi, I had the exact problem in this thread. I wanted to check if my qubes-dom0-update was broken or not. so enabled testing, which downloaded packages, I let it finished but then did not install. Searched the past threads and found this one. Applied the --clean option Which seem to have done some things as I had now 5 packages that it wanted to install. Which seems to confirm that qubes-dom0-update was stuck, also I am not sure (or maybe these 5 packages were release during my experiment on the current repo). Is there a way in github to see the list of packages and the associated commits for each repo? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7d0ba026-99cb-46fd-81d8-460602b6ffb1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
