Re: [qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
On 02/11/2017 08:35 AM, adonis28...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 2:35:15 AM UTC-5, pixel fairy wrote: On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:03:47 PM UTC-8, adoni...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, thanks for the responses, I will have a look at it. What I need in this case in particular requires VBox, it is Genymotion, an Android emulator. this might help. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-devel/5thjxcHcMFw/YQfiTZ4qDwAJ heres a quick guide to stand alone vms, https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/hvm/ H.. so Windows and then try to emulate android... I may give it a go, although I'd rather have a Linux VM with VBox in it Windows? no that's just the guide obviously you can use linux. I can't see any reason as to why virt wouldn't work on a HVM assuming the correct cpu flags are passed through. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/410ce310-2b09-8a37-6eae-0e3ad8054df3%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 2:35:15 AM UTC-5, pixel fairy wrote: > On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:03:47 PM UTC-8, adoni...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi guys, thanks for the responses, I will have a look at it. > > > > What I need in this case in particular requires VBox, it is Genymotion, an > > Android emulator. > > this might help. > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-devel/5thjxcHcMFw/YQfiTZ4qDwAJ > > heres a quick guide to stand alone vms, https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/hvm/ H.. so Windows and then try to emulate android... I may give it a go, although I'd rather have a Linux VM with VBox in it -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e66d5b3e-80e1-48b7-904b-4bbf94eadce2%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:03:47 PM UTC-8, adoni...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi guys, thanks for the responses, I will have a look at it. > > What I need in this case in particular requires VBox, it is Genymotion, an > Android emulator. this might help. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-devel/5thjxcHcMFw/YQfiTZ4qDwAJ heres a quick guide to stand alone vms, https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/hvm/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1a2aea13-0c01-4898-9b92-289df92c6ea9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-02-10 19:16, pixel fairy wrote: > On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:40:36 PM UTC-8, > adoni...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> Is it possible to install let's say Virtual Box inside a Qube? >> I've done some reading and all people seem to say is that it >> should be possible, but nothing conclusive. > > this should be a faq somewhere, it keeps getting brought up. > Hard to do an FAQ on this, because there are so many ways to try to do nested virtualization, and they don't all turn out the same way. But feel free to submit a PR if you like. :) > xen supports nested virtualization, see here: > https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Nested_Virtualization_in_Xen > > but, this is disabled in qubes because of the large attack surface > it introduces. containers, like docker and lxc, are possible, as > is emulation like running qemu without kvm extensions or virtualbox > with 32bit guests with acceleration turned off. > > you could make your own qubes build with it on. look for marmarek > in qubes-devel for threads on that. > - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYnrz4AAoJENtN07w5UDAwx/4P/RCSlPYYoov49xv2kVGhZy+7 CeQnNzwnsAOungeiWcT9aAUJDHI9zESIhSFpDWPwU6ypEGk52g9pYnEW4xjKjB5N asdJXwzlYmm9DrC1FI6uFJ8JSaO5tXZZ6ufKnhqUlVAyEk1+HR+vmxs32DdlagJP 4pufFe5W/mz5Bjj6q5V5uo/S6ZMy1c3qgJkhfs3D5l1qmkQIv1ZFlS0OE998ujSY CVqEgS7I2ul4d2Ut0LfsgdnicnHAwt3C+3xjJdOLc+an1hfTdOVyKiyyhqCN75q9 99uIKerPo77ujEyAgVWitownTql73VbGWALP+45ZmdiUM8HoGEvdUcSRB78o1vwv 9rknrPg+HaqAEUhcTny4x38H/N38oVjPEMIV0XJhK+c8lWALGwHFrzj0pV5rlVXu YWaPm2FoRLjdehBZQ6je5WCFe6AzgrAJAO3Shh43Y+hD9qZMtfWpevTjCik6/mCy kbLLG7nC3nKu3szos2kNi4XbKhVmel9jYfLUz54hzGALn8h1K2uMYqEWMBBeVyMn 3GTeuceg0E4P0TRiq6cEFJvHcW9RslTmmPbDiMHOXlm6oO3O+N5rk9iRToKqfux/ Q4nWDm97o5VeZ5o7I+bMtJokklSU8vnBHoNvOrQShDQtsgJ6oIDJT8k+LaaYah9m 0mTxw6U6Erm7M87vLQbY =4B/O -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/434dbcda-dd36-6d4a-0766-7083c65b1a6c%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
Hi guys, thanks for the responses, I will have a look at it. What I need in this case in particular requires VBox, it is Genymotion, an Android emulator. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/127a63ae-9649-4816-89db-4c8be54a8e81%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:40:36 PM UTC-8, adoni...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi guys, > > Is it possible to install let's say Virtual Box inside a Qube? I've done some > reading and all people seem to say is that it should be possible, but nothing > conclusive. this should be a faq somewhere, it keeps getting brought up. xen supports nested virtualization, see here: https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Nested_Virtualization_in_Xen but, this is disabled in qubes because of the large attack surface it introduces. containers, like docker and lxc, are possible, as is emulation like running qemu without kvm extensions or virtualbox with 32bit guests with acceleration turned off. you could make your own qubes build with it on. look for marmarek in qubes-devel for threads on that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c62e6814-7a52-4d66-9f5b-c5fbd6fe467d%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:40:36 PM UTC-8, adoni...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi guys, > > Is it possible to install let's say Virtual Box inside a Qube? I've done some > reading and all people seem to say is that it should be possible, but nothing > conclusive. VirtualBox definitely did not work for me, but I only tried it once and mostly out of curiosity. I can't remember the error... something about being unable to load a kernel module maybe? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b1a6f506-5eb3-47ad-98e9-5f7297d78f15%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Nested virtualization
Yeah, currently I'm using LXC Containers inside AppVMs. What do you need exactly? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/aa7a4a1c-0a99-4783-a94d-af04c645e698%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
