Re: [qubes-users] MS Office 365 in Qubes
TLDR: installing O365 using CrossOver is a normal Linux thing and has nothing Qubes OS specific to it -- whatever works in a "normal" Linux will work on Qubes OS too; if done with a standard Debian/Fedora qube all Qubes OS features will work. experience running CrossOver in Qubes I don't have any experience running O365 in CrossOver, but have observed others doing so on "normal" Linux installs (Mint, Ubuntu etc). They appeared satisfied. Is it easy to get data in/out to other vms (via copy paste or file transfer)? It's a normal debian/fedora qube so all your Qubes features work. Wine/CrossOver is an emulation layer, which means there is no Windows clipboard but instead when the respective API gets invoked the contents lands in your linux clipboard (inside the qube). From there you use the normal shortcuts to transfer to/from dom0. Sending/Receiving files works as always. Your Windows C: drive lives under ~/.wine/drive_c or something similar. O365 is not and has never been my main concern, but I do have it installed in a Windows 10 qube. The reason I need Windows has more to do with proprietary automotive network analyzing tools for which I also need USB (that doesn't work with CrossOver). So it was never really a question for me. My point to the OP was merely that if O365 is the ONLY reason to run Windows, I'd go and download a free eval copy of CrossOver and try that first before attempting to install an entire Windows qube. Also because I suspect it'll be far lighter on resources and cheaper than buying a Windows license. I'd recommend the same to you. It won't cost you a thing. Wine is FOSS and CrossOver is a somewhat more polished commercial version of it with a free evaluation. The reason I recommend it is that I expect it to work a bit smoother than the vanilla Wine for the installation. Although the Wine has also a package called Winetricks ... you could give that a try too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bf3d88cd-45b3-dc01-ca91-19a5d3e673ce%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] MS Office 365 in Qubes
On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 10:33:31 AM UTC-4 sv...@svensemmler.org wrote: > > https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube > > But if Office 365 Suite are the only windows apps you need I'd go for > CrossOver. > I'm very curious about your experience running CrossOver in Qubes Sven. How stable and solid is it? How performant? Is it easy to get data in/out to other vms (via copy paste or file transfer)? My worry is that it would be too many layers: Qubes dom0 (Xen) -> AppVM (linux) -> CrossOver (Windows API translation) -> Office But it sounds like it works for you? In Qubes? I thought perhaps using a Win10 qube might be more direct and thus better, and also potentially more stable over a period of years (since you are not relying on Codeweavers to keep maintaining CrossOver by tracking the Win10 API): Qubes dom0 (Xen) -> AppVM (Win10) -> Office but this seems to be tricky for people and the current state of qubes tooling on Win10 not good. So CrossOver holds some interest to me. I have similar issues with LibreOffice - it is a wonderful and miraculous body of code but I have found it is not good for collaborating with Office users (in my case, track changes causing crashes on both sides after several rounds of document exchange in Word/LibreWriter). Thank you for any information -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/01f38e9e-199e-48de-90cf-0e2586c59d07n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [qubes-users] MS Office 365 in Qubes
On 5/13/21 10:08 AM, 'taran1s' via qubes-users wrote: I believe that I could possibly to get out with the MS Office 2019 instead of Office 365. Would this change the equation and make things easier? When using a Windows VM I don't think it really makes a difference. In both cases you need to be online at install time to get the license and can then work offline afterwards. In case of 2019 there might be an option to activate via phone if they haven't killed it already. When using CrossOver/Wine: 2019 ... 3/5 ... limited functionality [1] 365 ... 4/5 ... runs well [2] It's a Windows emulation on top of Linux. So you would install it in your normal Fedora or Debian AppVM and then run Office that way. That would make for perfect Qubes integration and lower resource usage. [1] https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/microsoft-office-2019 [2] https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/microsoft-office-365 -- public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/0x8F541FB6.asc fingerprint: D7CA F2DB 658D 89BC 08D6 A7AA DA6E 167B 8F54 1FB6 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/aede8e3f-4711-514e-9fb6-b3573e1eaa89%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] MS Office 365 in Qubes
Sven Semmler: need to use MS Office 365 Condolences. Thank you, taken sadly. workaround other than necessity to install whole Windows OS https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/microsoft-office-365 WIN7 or WIN10 [...] point me to a how to guide? https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube But if Office 365 Suite are the only windows apps you need I'd go for CrossOver. I believe that I could possibly to get out with the MS Office 2019 instead of Office 365. Would this change the equation and make things easier? -- Kind regards taran1s gpg: 12DDA1FE5FB39C110F3D1FD5A664B90BD3BE59B3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1119c0e0-cb0f-dcd3-c9b3-11e56b796a6d%40mailbox.org.
Re: [qubes-users] MS Office 365 in Qubes
need to use MS Office 365 Condolences. workaround other than necessity to install whole Windows OS https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/crossover/microsoft-office-365 WIN7 or WIN10 [...] point me to a how to guide? https://github.com/elliotkillick/qvm-create-windows-qube But if Office 365 Suite are the only windows apps you need I'd go for CrossOver. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/b7e2d24f-7fec-ac8f-ae1d-bee86063845c%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
