Re: [qubes-users] Re: USB Keyboard thoughts...
On Tuesday, 12 December 2017 16:24:16 CET cooloutac wrote: > well I'm no expert but with ps/2 keyboard it will be the only thing > attached, unlike usb which can have multiple devices on same controller, > spoofed as other devices. Is there a better option? The attack modes are two very different ones. Taiidan is thinking about someone coming in, installing a snooping device and waiting for you to type something critical. In contrary your ps2 solution is one which protects against people at any time entering your OS through compromised (usb) hardware. Either by giving you a pen, or entering the pen themselves. It seems that if you drop usb pens in the parking lot of a mall or company, you have a very very high chance some unsuspecting person will insert it in their machine. With the amount of bad USB drivers in the linux tree (not to mention in Windows) this is a worrying attack allowing the machine to be rooted without the attacker even being physically present. sys-usb limits this attack. > USB to ps/2 adapter works, i apologize if it is a too simple and > practical cheap solution. If you are oldschool you probably have some > laying around the house. I think thats a great solution for the more common attack. -- Tom Zander Blog: https://zander.github.io Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/2076848.empXumHRCm%40strawberry. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: USB Keyboard thoughts...
On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 11:09:24 PM UTC-5, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/04/2017 07:31 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > I use a usb to ps2 adapter for my keyboard. > I assume with the mistaken impression that PS/2 is more secure for some > reason - for the record it sends your keystrokes out on the ground wire. what? well I'm no expert but with ps/2 keyboard it will be the only thing attached, unlike usb which can have multiple devices on same controller, spoofed as other devices. Is there a better option? USB to ps/2 adapter works, i apologize if it is a too simple and practical cheap solution. If you are oldschool you probably have some laying around the house. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/66ba1747-3212-4001-8bf2-97eeae913644%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: USB Keyboard thoughts...
On 12/05/2017 05:09 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 12/04/2017 07:31 PM, cooloutac wrote: > >> I use a usb to ps2 adapter for my keyboard. > I assume with the mistaken impression that PS/2 is more secure for > some reason - for the record it sends your keystrokes out on the > ground wire. > Sends keystrokes out? To where? Inquiring minds request further information / references! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/15ea3f01-e90f-6db4-69e8-d4bd452a45ef%40fastmail.fm. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: USB Keyboard thoughts...
On 12/04/2017 07:31 PM, cooloutac wrote: I use a usb to ps2 adapter for my keyboard. I assume with the mistaken impression that PS/2 is more secure for some reason - for the record it sends your keystrokes out on the ground wire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/8f2ce442-a6d0-4100-b956-d24196455340%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: USB Keyboard thoughts...
W dniu niedziela, 3 grudnia 2017 06:29:51 UTC+1 użytkownik tai...@gmx.com napisał: > I would consider purchasing one of unicomps excellent mechanical > keyboards, they don't have re-writable firmware so a malicious computer > can't install a virus (unlike most keyboards) and they are also made in > america thus much more trustworthy. > > Truly a pleasure to type on, they are made with the original IBM Model M > tooling. Try Bathroom Epiphanies. These are replacement keyboard controllers for select mechanical keyboards. Fully open source, fully open hardware. Allow full control over the keyboard and the code that it runs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/df757748-f106-4c03-855b-2be873aeb294%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: USB Keyboard thoughts...
I would consider purchasing one of unicomps excellent mechanical keyboards, they don't have re-writable firmware so a malicious computer can't install a virus (unlike most keyboards) and they are also made in america thus much more trustworthy. Truly a pleasure to type on, they are made with the original IBM Model M tooling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a8c34cb4-2bba-020c-a581-233884374f91%40gmx.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
