Re: [ntp:questions] Some issues about NTP ( Server 2008R2)

2014-06-04 Thread hschulla
Hi!
With the above mentioned Setting ntpq works!

C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\binntpq -p
 remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==
*toa1.bkh.at .GPS.1 u   38   64   170.514   -0.909   0.977
 toa2.bkh.at .GPS.1 u   41   64   170.015   -0.768   0.977
 ip146255057034. 91.189.94.4  3 u   40   64   17   14.074   -3.193  22.992
 boxi.trexler.at 193.171.23.163   2 u   39   64   17   14.490   43.767   1.913
 manage.mediainv 193.171.23.163   2 u   38   64   17   13.4280.971   5.573
 ntp1.sil.at 86.59.80.170 3 u   38   64   17   14.1872.870  58.004

C:\Program Files (x86)\NTP\bin

Let's wait 

Hartmut

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Re: [ntp:questions] Some issues about NTP ( Server 2008R2)

2014-06-04 Thread hschulla
Hi!
Not working again.
Actual polling rate: 256.
The internal system clock (windows time UTC) was only one time altered between 
16:00 and 21:00:

Die Systemzeit wurde von 2014-06-04T14:12:55.993298900Z in 
2014-06-04T14:12:55.82900Z geändert.

Änderungsgrund: Die Uhrzeit wurde von einer Anwendung oder von einer 
Systemkomponente geändert..

Hartmut

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Re: [ntp:questions] Some issues about NTP ( Server 2008R2)

2014-06-04 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
hschu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not working again.

Offhand you likely have a perception problem.

What makes you think its not working?

ntpq -clpe -clas -crv

In ntpq,
 Does the peers have e.g. a server with a * in front of it,
  are there maybe others with + in front of them,
  is the reach for those servers e.g. 377;
  reasonable delays, offsets, jitters?

 Does an association have e.g. reach yes for a condition sys.peer
  and last event sys_peer, and likely other candidates reachable?

 Does your client's variables have e.g. sync_ntp, leap 00,
  a stratum lower than 16,


 Actual polling rate: 256.

The polls should get longer, and shorter based on what ntp needs;
 they get longer as the systems frequency is stabilized,
  or shorter if ntp thinks it needs shorter polls,
   based on the data it has (I think mostly dispersion of a server),
and the adjustments its recently / currently making.


 The internal system clock (windows time UTC) was only one time altered
  between 16:00 and 21:00:

 Die Systemzeit wurde von 2014-06-04T14:12:55.993298900Z in 
 2014-06-04T14:12:55.82900Z geändert.
 Änderungsgrund: Die Uhrzeit wurde von einer Anwendung oder von einer 
 Systemkomponente geändert..

https://translate.google.com/#de/en/
 The system time was 2014-06-04T14: 12:55.993298900 Z 2014-06-04T14: 
 12:55.82900 Z changed.
 Reason for change: The time has been changed by an application or a system 
 component ..

Whats that from?

NTP only sets the date / time once, rarely steps the time,
 and normally makes small changes to the frequency.




http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp.html
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/brief/arch/arch.pdf e.g. pg 23 
Clock discipline algorithm
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/brief/flow/ntp4.pdf
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/brief/clock/clock.pdf
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/brief/precise/precise.pdf
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/database/brief/algor/algor.pdf
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/warp.html
http://www.ntp.org/ntpfaq/NTP-s-algo.htm

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Re: [ntp:questions] Some issues about NTP ( Server 2008R2)

2014-06-04 Thread Maarten Wiltink
hschu...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:c7ea1a65-eb51-4708-98cb-5aa0d4b31...@googlegroups.com...

 Not working again.
 Actual polling rate: 256.

 The internal system clock (windows time UTC) was only one time altered
 between 16:00 and 21:00:

You keep repeating that. If any of your associations has a '*' in front
of it, NTP is working and the offset to that server should be low. That
should tell you that your clock is running very close to 'real' time.

NTP does _not_ work by setting your clock to a different time, over and
over. It works by making your clock run faster or slower, as required.
If this works, you see a lot of nothing happening.

Groetjes,
Maarten Wiltink


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Re: [ntp:questions] Some issues about NTP ( Server 2008R2)

2014-06-04 Thread David Lord

hschu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi!
Not working again.
Actual polling rate: 256.
The internal system clock (windows time UTC) was only one time altered between 
16:00 and 21:00:


As has been already mentioned ntpd needs write access
to some of its files.

Can you confirm that it has, particularly ntpd.drift
(whatever is default or has been cofigured).


David



Die Systemzeit wurde von 2014-06-04T14:12:55.993298900Z in 
2014-06-04T14:12:55.82900Z geändert.

Änderungsgrund: Die Uhrzeit wurde von einer Anwendung oder von einer 
Systemkomponente geändert..

Hartmut


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Re: [ntp:questions] Some issues about NTP ( Server 2008R2)

2014-06-04 Thread hschulla
Hi!

ntp.drift is configured and the actual value is 8.898.

Hartmut

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Re: [ntp:questions] Some issues about NTP ( Server 2008R2)

2014-06-04 Thread David Lord

hschu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi!

ntp.drift is configured and the actual value is 8.898.

Hartmut



How do you know that ntpd isn't running?

If 'ntpq -p' is still working then so is ntpd.

If you are wanting ntpd to behave same as windows time then
you'd better forget about running ntpd and then you'll be
happy (but your time probably won't be as good as from ntpd).


David


Not from a windows system:

$ ntpq -crv -p
associd=0 status=011d leap_none, sync_pps, 1 event, kern,
version=ntpd 4.2.7p444@1.2483-o Thu May 22 09:51:04 UTC 2014 (1),
processor=i386, system=NetBSD/6.1_STABLE, leap=00, stratum=1,
precision=-18, rootdelay=0.000, rootdisp=400.150, refid=PPSb,
reftime=d73a384b.914e86bc  Thu, Jun  5 2014  0:28:59.567,
clock=d73a3856.6f6569fc  Thu, Jun  5 2014  0:29:10.435, peer=31562,
tc=4, mintc=3, offset=-0.000312, frequency=-35.047,
sys_jitter=0.003815, clk_jitter=0.001, clk_wander=0.002

remoterefidst t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter

*GPS_NMEA(2)  .GPSb.7 l   44   64  3770.000   -1.416  12.035
oPPS(2)   .PPSb.0 l   11   16  3770.0000.000   0.004
 me6000g.home xxx.xxx   2 u   19   64  3770.4700.185   0.560
+ns0.lordynet xxx.xxx   3 u   53   64  3772.0600.737   0.594
+ns1.lordynet xxx.xxx   3 u   45   64  3770.5480.151   0.586
+ns3.lordynet xxx.xxx   3 u   34   64  3770.5120.233   0.565
+ntp2.xxx xxx.xxx   2 u  232  256  377   22.3172.002   0.473

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