Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
Barry Rowlingson wrote: Would something like q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c]: be useful to anyone else? Just thought I'd ask before I dive into internals or wrap the q function for myself. yes, it would be very useful to me. vQ __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
On 05/06/2009 7:53 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: When I quit R, it says: q() Save workspace image? [y/n/c]: and since I've probably got 3 R sessions running in however many different directories and I might have jumped around with setwd() , I forget exactly where R wants to save its workspace image. So could q() be changed to say what file it is going to save to before it does? Currently I have to hit 'c', then do getcwd(), then quit again. Would something like q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c]: be useful to anyone else? Just thought I'd ask before I dive into internals or wrap the q function for myself. That sounds like a great suggestion. I might word it as Save workspace to /home/me/workspace/.RData? [y/n/c] If people are working deep in a directory tree, the path might end up too long; you might want to think about limiting it (e.g. by leaving off the root). Duncan Murdoch __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
[Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
When I quit R, it says: q() Save workspace image? [y/n/c]: and since I've probably got 3 R sessions running in however many different directories and I might have jumped around with setwd() , I forget exactly where R wants to save its workspace image. So could q() be changed to say what file it is going to save to before it does? Currently I have to hit 'c', then do getcwd(), then quit again. Would something like q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c]: be useful to anyone else? Just thought I'd ask before I dive into internals or wrap the q function for myself. Barry __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
I guess that having something like this q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c/e]: where e means Editing the path should be clear enought, isn't it? Best, Mathieu Le vendredi 05 juin 2009 à 14:36 +0200, Wacek Kusnierczyk a écrit : Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 05/06/2009 7:53 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: When I quit R, it says: q() Save workspace image? [y/n/c]: and since I've probably got 3 R sessions running in however many different directories and I might have jumped around with setwd() , I forget exactly where R wants to save its workspace image. So could q() be changed to say what file it is going to save to before it does? Currently I have to hit 'c', then do getcwd(), then quit again. Would something like q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c]: be useful to anyone else? Just thought I'd ask before I dive into internals or wrap the q function for myself. That sounds like a great suggestion. I might word it as Save workspace to /home/me/workspace/.RData? [y/n/c] but then what would happen if you choose 'n'? i'd expect a prompt for another path -- and i'd suspect this is what others would expect, too. with the message as barry suggests, exiting without saving is the most natural thing, which is what happens in the current implementation. if you insist on your version, it would be better, i think, to change the behaviour, too. vQ __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel -- Institute of Mathematics Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne STAT-IMA-FSB-EPFL, Station 8 CH-1015 Lausanne Switzerland http://stat.epfl.ch/ Tel: + 41 (0)21 693 7907 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
Mathieu Ribatet wrote: I guess that having something like this q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c/e]: where e means Editing the path should be clear enought, isn't it? good idea; maybe 'o' for 'other path'; or 'a' for 'alternative path'; or 'd' for 'different path'; or 'm' for 'modify path'; or 'p' for 'path'; or... ? vQ __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
I think e is better than others. Ronggui 2009/6/5 Wacek Kusnierczyk waclaw.marcin.kusnierc...@idi.ntnu.no: Mathieu Ribatet wrote: I guess that having something like this q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c/e]: where e means Editing the path should be clear enought, isn't it? good idea; maybe 'o' for 'other path'; or 'a' for 'alternative path'; or 'd' for 'different path'; or 'm' for 'modify path'; or 'p' for 'path'; or... ? vQ __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel -- HUANG Ronggui, Wincent PhD Candidate Dept of Public and Social Administration City University of Hong Kong Home page: http://asrr.r-forge.r-project.org/rghuang.html __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Mathieu Ribatetmathieu.riba...@epfl.ch wrote: I guess that having something like this q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c/e]: where e means Editing the path should be clear enought, isn't it? 'e' might be thought to mean 'exit' in English, which makes me think we also need to make sure this can all be translated. Maybe 'p' for path? Or 'e' for 'elsewhere'? This is getting tricky :) I think I'd rather leave off the 'e' option for simplicity - if the user wants to save elsewhere they can hit 'c' and do save() or setcwd() themselves, I'm not sure we need to put extra functionality into the q function. Barry __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
On 6/5/2009 9:46 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Mathieu Ribatetmathieu.riba...@epfl.ch wrote: I guess that having something like this q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c/e]: where e means Editing the path should be clear enought, isn't it? 'e' might be thought to mean 'exit' in English, which makes me think we also need to make sure this can all be translated. Maybe 'p' for path? Or 'e' for 'elsewhere'? This is getting tricky :) I think I'd rather leave off the 'e' option for simplicity - if the user wants to save elsewhere they can hit 'c' and do save() or setcwd() themselves, I'm not sure we need to put extra functionality into the q function. An alternative to think about is to report where the file was saved, rather than tease the user by suggesting s/he has a choice. This is a bit harder in the GUIs, but would be very easy in a console, just print the path after quitting: Save workspace image? [y/n/c]: y Image saved to /home/me/workspace/.RData In the Windows GUI you could pop up a dialog box to say this, with a checkbox saying don't show me this next time. Duncan Murdoch __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Wacek Kusnierczykwaclaw.marcin.kusnierc...@idi.ntnu.no wrote: Mathieu Ribatet wrote: I guess that having something like this q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c/e]: where e means Editing the path should be clear enought, isn't it? good idea; maybe 'o' for 'other path'; or 'a' for 'alternative path'; or 'd' for 'different path'; or 'm' for 'modify path'; or 'p' for 'path'; or... ? or perhaps clearer: Save workspace to /home/me/workspace/.RData? [ y(es) / (n(o) / c(ancel) / o(ther) ]: __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
Any change here is not so simple to implement as to propose: this is not something in the R engine, but part of the clean-up action in the front end. That means that there are at least 3 versions to handle in the standard front ends (and that for R.app is not in the main source tarball). And at least two of them is offered for translation so there are many copies. Then there are other front-ends such as JGR and RKward I hope people proposing this will offer complete patches. On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 6/5/2009 9:46 AM, Barry Rowlingson wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Mathieu Ribatetmathieu.riba...@epfl.ch wrote: I guess that having something like this q() Save workspace image (/home/me/workspace/.RData)? [y/n/c/e]: where e means Editing the path should be clear enought, isn't it? 'e' might be thought to mean 'exit' in English, which makes me think we also need to make sure this can all be translated. Maybe 'p' for path? Or 'e' for 'elsewhere'? This is getting tricky :) I think I'd rather leave off the 'e' option for simplicity - if the user wants to save elsewhere they can hit 'c' and do save() or setcwd() themselves, I'm not sure we need to put extra functionality into the q function. An alternative to think about is to report where the file was saved, rather than tease the user by suggesting s/he has a choice. This is a bit harder in the GUIs, but would be very easy in a console, just print the path after quitting: Save workspace image? [y/n/c]: y Image saved to /home/me/workspace/.RData In the Windows GUI you could pop up a dialog box to say this, with a checkbox saying don't show me this next time. Duncan Murdoch __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel -- Brian D. Ripley, rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UKFax: +44 1865 272595 __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Gabor Grothendieckggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: Save workspace to /home/me/workspace/.RData? [ y(es) / (n(o) / c(ancel) / o(ther) ]: Quitting emacs produces this: Save file /foo/bar/baz.qux? (y, n, !, ., q, C-r, d or C-h) I'm not sure what any other than the first two do. I don't think I've ever used them. Plus there's no mention of the option I usually do when I hit save accidentally, which is C-g (the emacs generic 'panic' button). I don't think I'd want R's quit function to be so verbose. Barry __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
Re: [Rd] Show location of workspace image on quit?
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Barry Rowlingsonb.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Gabor Grothendieckggrothendi...@gmail.com wrote: Save workspace to /home/me/workspace/.RData? [ y(es) / (n(o) / c(ancel) / o(ther) ]: Quitting emacs produces this: Save file /foo/bar/baz.qux? (y, n, !, ., q, C-r, d or C-h) I'm not sure what any other than the first two do. I don't think I've ever used them. Plus there's no mention of the option I usually do when I hit save accidentally, which is C-g (the emacs generic 'panic' button). I don't think I'd want R's quit function to be so verbose. The problem isn't really verbosity --- the problem is that one has no idea what the options all mean. __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel
