Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-05 Thread Joyaa Antares 

Dear John,

You mention, "the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R 
Commander")".


Apologies for my dumbness, but the manual I did read - and found helpful - 
before posting is clearly a different one.   A 43 page pdf  with no section 
numbers nor any reference to the Workspace.   (Package ‘Rcmdr’August 19, 
2015 Version 2.2-0Date 2015-08-14Title R Commander //  snip 
//...   Author John Fox [aut, cre], Milan Bouchet-Valat [aut],  . // 
snip //").


Since the Help page you refer to doesn't seem to be here 
https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help  or here 
http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/,  I would be very grateful for an extra 
direction and apologise for getting a bit lost amongst all the 
possibilities.


Kind regards, Joyaa  (feeling like a fish in a new ocean).


-Original Message- 
From: Fox, John

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 2:07 AM
To: Joyaa Antares
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 
10


Dear Joyaa,


-Original Message-
From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM
To: Fox, John
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
Windows 10

Dear John,

Very many thanks.  Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save
the
workspace, and this is what created the problem.   As a newbie, being
part
way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the
right
thing to do.   Clearly not!


It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr 
manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See 
Section 6.5.


I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R 
Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing 
work -- but it my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new 
users of R, whether or not they're using the R Commander.



So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I
copied
and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few
comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving
R's
script, output, workspace or markdown.  I hope this is reasonable
practice.
If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this.


You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a 
programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular 
programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script 
tab has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts, 
and it offers to save the script when you exit.


You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr 
into Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr 
Markdown tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The 
Rcmdr includes an editor for R Markdown documents.  See Sections 6.1 and 6.2 
of the manual.


Best,
John



Once again, very many thanks.  Joyaa

-Original Message-
From: Fox, John
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM
To: Joyaa Antares
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
Windows
10

Dear Joyaa,

> -Original Message-
> From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM
> To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca>
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> Windows 10
>
> Dear John, Dear List,
>
> Thank you for responding.  Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and
> reinstalling
> again.  Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the
package
> library?

You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as
administrator
and that you took all defaults. In that case,  the installed packages
will
be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library
directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do
recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the
SDI
rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties.

>
> I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the
whole
> things
> as Administrator rather than a User.  For the mirror, my first two
install
> attempts
> were via a mirror in Germany.  My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge,
UK.
>
> Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival
plug-in
> it
> worked fine.

If you said that before, I missed it.

> I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed
> the programs for the night.  The next day, when I tried to reload the
> plugin from
> R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting
for
> "Yes", this is w

Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-05 Thread Joyaa Antares 

Der JWD, Dear Jeff Newmiller,

Many thanks for your useful advice. JWD - I have notepad++ and I don't 
know why I didn't think of that! Having said that, I will take a look at 
RStudio that John mentions too.


Thanks again.  Much appreciated.  Joyaa

-Original Message- 
From: jwd

Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 12:09 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Cc: Joyaa Antares
Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 
10


On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 21:07:19 +1000
"Joyaa Antares" <jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au> wrote:


Dear John,

Very many thanks.  Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did
save the workspace, and this is what created the problem.   As a
newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace
intuitively seemed the right thing to do.   Clearly not!So now,
before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script
file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding
#), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output,
workspace or markdown.  I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I
would be grateful for guidance on this.

Once again, very many thanks.  Joyaa


A potentially useful piece of advise is to avoid using MSWord as a text
editor.  I don't use Rcmdr, but text files, particularly CSVs are
extremely useful in R as data files.  Scripts should be pure text as
well.  Word demands that you keep this in mind at all times.  It won't
default to a simple text mode.  You can use notepad, which MS provides
as a stopgap, though I would recommend a more capable programmer's text
editor such as Notepad++, a very useful GPL-licensed text editor for
Windows, which can be downloaded for free.

JWDougherty

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Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-05 Thread Fox, John 
Dear Joyaa,

> -Original Message-
> From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> Sent: September 5, 2015 2:07 AM
> To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca>
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 
> 10
> 
> Dear John,
> 
> You mention, "the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R
> Commander")".
> 
> Apologies for my dumbness, but the manual I did read - and found helpful -
> before posting is clearly a different one.   A 43 page pdf  with no section
> numbers nor any reference to the Workspace.   (Package ‘Rcmdr’August 19,
> 2015 Version 2.2-0Date 2015-08-14Title R Commander //  snip
> //...   Author John Fox [aut, cre], Milan Bouchet-Valat [aut],  . //
> snip //").

I'm at a loss to explain why your copy of the manual has no section numbers, 
particularly since the version and date you cite are correct; as I've just 
confirmed, the PDF manual distributed with version 2.2-0 of the Rcmdr does 
indeed have section numbers, starting with "1 Introduction" near the top of the 
first page. In case it's somehow ambiguous, this is section 1. I'll send you a 
copy of the PDF separately, so as not to waste bandwidth on the r-help list.

> 
> Since the Help page you refer to doesn't seem to be here

I'm sorry, but I don't recall referring to a help page and I don't see a 
reference to a help page in this thread. Can you remind me what I apparently 
said?

Best,
 John

> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help  or here
> http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/,  I would be very grateful for an extra 
> direction
> and apologise for getting a bit lost amongst all the possibilities.
> 
> Kind regards, Joyaa  (feeling like a fish in a new ocean).
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Fox, John
> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 2:07 AM
> To: Joyaa Antares
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows
> 10
> 
> Dear Joyaa,
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM
> > To: Fox, John
> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> > Windows 10
> >
> > Dear John,
> >
> > Very many thanks.  Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save
> > the
> > workspace, and this is what created the problem.   As a newbie, being
> > part
> > way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the
> > right
> > thing to do.   Clearly not!
> 
> It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr manual
> (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See Section 6.5.
> 
> I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R
> Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing work -- 
> but it
> my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new users of R,
> whether or not they're using the R Commander.
> 
> > So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's
> > script file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with
> > preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script,
> > output, workspace or markdown.  I hope this is reasonable practice.
> > If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this.
> 
> You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a
> programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular
> programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script 
> tab
> has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts, and 
> it offers
> to save the script when you exit.
> 
> You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr
> into Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr
> Markdown tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The
> Rcmdr includes an editor for R Markdown documents.  See Sections 6.1 and 6.2
> of the manual.
> 
> Best,
> John
> 
> >
> > Once again, very many thanks.  Joyaa
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fox, John
> > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM
> > To: Joyaa Antares
> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> > Windows
> > 10
> >
> > Dear Joyaa,
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Joyaa

Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-04 Thread Jeff Newmiller 
This is a major point... do not make the mistake that you can "get by" using 
MSWord as a text editor because it actively changes your code in ways that make 
sense in a word processor but change code in ways that corrupt it.
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On September 4, 2015 7:09:29 AM PDT, jwd  wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 21:07:19 +1000
>"Joyaa Antares"  wrote:
>
>> Dear John,
>> 
>> Very many thanks.  Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did
>> save the workspace, and this is what created the problem.   As a
>> newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace
>> intuitively seemed the right thing to do.   Clearly not!So now,
>> before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script
>> file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding
>> #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output,
>> workspace or markdown.  I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I
>> would be grateful for guidance on this.
>> 
>> Once again, very many thanks.  Joyaa
>> 
>A potentially useful piece of advise is to avoid using MSWord as a text
>editor.  I don't use Rcmdr, but text files, particularly CSVs are
>extremely useful in R as data files.  Scripts should be pure text as
>well.  Word demands that you keep this in mind at all times.  It won't
>default to a simple text mode.  You can use notepad, which MS provides
>as a stopgap, though I would recommend a more capable programmer's text
>editor such as Notepad++, a very useful GPL-licensed text editor for
>Windows, which can be downloaded for free.
>
>JWDougherty
>
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>and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.

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Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-04 Thread jwd 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 21:07:19 +1000
"Joyaa Antares"  wrote:

> Dear John,
> 
> Very many thanks.  Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did
> save the workspace, and this is what created the problem.   As a
> newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace
> intuitively seemed the right thing to do.   Clearly not!So now,
> before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script
> file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding
> #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output,
> workspace or markdown.  I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I
> would be grateful for guidance on this.
> 
> Once again, very many thanks.  Joyaa
> 
A potentially useful piece of advise is to avoid using MSWord as a text
editor.  I don't use Rcmdr, but text files, particularly CSVs are
extremely useful in R as data files.  Scripts should be pure text as
well.  Word demands that you keep this in mind at all times.  It won't
default to a simple text mode.  You can use notepad, which MS provides
as a stopgap, though I would recommend a more capable programmer's text
editor such as Notepad++, a very useful GPL-licensed text editor for
Windows, which can be downloaded for free.

JWDougherty

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Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-04 Thread Joyaa Antares 

Dear John,

Very many thanks.  Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save the 
workspace, and this is what created the problem.   As a newbie, being part 
way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the right 
thing to do.   Clearly not!So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied 
and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few 
comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's 
script, output, workspace or markdown.  I hope this is reasonable practice. 
If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this.


Once again, very many thanks.  Joyaa

-Original Message- 
From: Fox, John

Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM
To: Joyaa Antares
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 
10


Dear Joyaa,


-Original Message-
From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM
To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca>
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with 
Windows 10


Dear John, Dear List,

Thank you for responding.  Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and 
reinstalling
again.  Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the package 
library?


You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as administrator 
and that you took all defaults. In that case,  the installed packages will 
be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library 
directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do 
recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the SDI 
rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties.




I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the whole 
things
as Administrator rather than a User.  For the mirror, my first two install 
attempts

were via a mirror in Germany.  My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge, UK.

Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in 
it

worked fine.


If you said that before, I missed it.


I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed
the programs for the night.  The next day, when I tried to reload the 
plugin from

R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting for
"Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly.


Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. My 
guess is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved workspace 
is in the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and try again.


If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr menus (or 
if closing R directly, don't save the workspace).


I hope this helps,
John

-
John Fox, Professor
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
Web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox




My thanks to you and the list for your time.  Joyaa (Gold Coast, 
Queensland,

Australia)

-Original Message-
From: Fox, John
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM
To: Joyaa Antares
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with 
Windows

10

Dear Joyaa,

I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my 
package
library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival 
packages.
I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the 
default MDI for
Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your problem. I 
used the 0-

Cloud mirror, both for R
3.2.2 and for packages.

I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works 
perfectly fine

for me.

You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you 
can

add?

Best,
John

-
John Fox, Professor
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox



From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares
[jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 
10


Hello r-help,

I am quite new to R.  I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows
10.

On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error
message:

Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
  [tcl] invalid command name "configure".

The lead-up to this was:

* I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find.
* Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install
* Opened the .exe file as Administrator
* Ran 64-bit R as Administrator
* Updated all packages
* Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival
* Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console
* This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed
* Loaded RcmdrPlugin

Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-04 Thread Fox, John 
Dear Joyaa,

> -Original Message-
> From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM
> To: Fox, John
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> Windows 10
> 
> Dear John,
> 
> Very many thanks.  Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save
> the
> workspace, and this is what created the problem.   As a newbie, being
> part
> way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the
> right
> thing to do.   Clearly not!

It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr manual 
(accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See Section 6.5.

I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R 
Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing work -- 
but it my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new users of R, 
whether or not they're using the R Commander.

> So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I
> copied
> and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few
> comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving
> R's
> script, output, workspace or markdown.  I hope this is reasonable
> practice.
> If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this.

You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a 
programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular 
programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script tab 
has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts, and it 
offers to save the script when you exit.

You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr into 
Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr Markdown 
tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The Rcmdr 
includes an editor for R Markdown documents.  See Sections 6.1 and 6.2 of the 
manual.

Best,
 John

> 
> Once again, very many thanks.  Joyaa
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Fox, John
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM
> To: Joyaa Antares
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> Windows
> 10
> 
> Dear Joyaa,
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> > Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM
> > To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca>
> > Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with
> > Windows 10
> >
> > Dear John, Dear List,
> >
> > Thank you for responding.  Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and
> > reinstalling
> > again.  Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the
> package
> > library?
> 
> You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as
> administrator
> and that you took all defaults. In that case,  the installed packages
> will
> be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library
> directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do
> recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the
> SDI
> rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties.
> 
> >
> > I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the
> whole
> > things
> > as Administrator rather than a User.  For the mirror, my first two
> install
> > attempts
> > were via a mirror in Germany.  My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge,
> UK.
> >
> > Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival
> plug-in
> > it
> > worked fine.
> 
> If you said that before, I missed it.
> 
> > I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed
> > the programs for the night.  The next day, when I tried to reload the
> > plugin from
> > R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting
> for
> > "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly.
> 
> Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. My
> guess is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved
> workspace
> is in the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and try again.
> 
> If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr menus
> (or
> if closing R directly, don't save the workspace).
> 
> I hope this helps,
> John
> 
> -----
> John Fox, Professor
> McMaster University
> Hamilton, Ontario
> Canada L8S 4M4
> Web: socse

[R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-03 Thread Joyaa Antares 
Hello r-help,

I am quite new to R.  I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows 10.  
 

On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error message:

Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") : 
  [tcl] invalid command name "configure".

The lead-up to this was:

* I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find.
* Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install
* Opened the .exe file as Administrator
* Ran 64-bit R as Administrator
* Updated all packages 
* Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival
* Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console
* This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed
* Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu
* I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn’t open properly 
(showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn’t close properly 
either.  The error message as above showed in the console.

I haven’t posted to the list before and would be very grateful for help.  Thank 
you.   Joyaa
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Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-03 Thread Fox, John 
Dear Joyaa,

I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my package 
library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival 
packages. I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the 
default MDI for Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your 
problem. I used the 0-Cloud mirror, both for R 3.2.2 and for packages.

I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works perfectly 
fine for me.

You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you can 
add?

Best,
 John

-
John Fox, Professor
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox



From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares 
[jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

Hello r-help,

I am quite new to R.  I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows 10.

On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error message:

Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
  [tcl] invalid command name "configure".

The lead-up to this was:

* I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find.
* Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install
* Opened the .exe file as Administrator
* Ran 64-bit R as Administrator
* Updated all packages
* Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival
* Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console
* This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed
* Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu
* I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn’t open properly 
(showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn’t close properly 
either.  The error message as above showed in the console.

I haven’t posted to the list before and would be very grateful for help.  Thank 
you.   Joyaa
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Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-03 Thread Fox, John 
Dear Joyaa,

> -Original Message-
> From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM
> To: Fox, John <j...@mcmaster.ca>
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 
> 10
> 
> Dear John, Dear List,
> 
> Thank you for responding.  Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and 
> reinstalling
> again.  Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the package 
> library?

You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as administrator and 
that you took all defaults. In that case,  the installed packages will be in 
C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library directory, which 
will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do recommend, by the way, 
that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the SDI rather than the default 
MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties.

> 
> I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the whole 
> things
> as Administrator rather than a User.  For the mirror, my first two install 
> attempts
> were via a mirror in Germany.  My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge, UK.
> 
> Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in it
> worked fine.  

If you said that before, I missed it. 

> I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed
> the programs for the night.  The next day, when I tried to reload the plugin 
> from
> R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting for
> "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly.

Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. My guess 
is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved workspace is in 
the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and try again.

If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr menus (or if 
closing R directly, don't save the workspace).

I hope this helps,
 John

-
John Fox, Professor
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
Web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox


> 
> My thanks to you and the list for your time.  Joyaa (Gold Coast, Queensland,
> Australia)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Fox, John
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM
> To: Joyaa Antares
> Cc: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows
> 10
> 
> Dear Joyaa,
> 
> I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my package
> library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival 
> packages.
> I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the default 
> MDI for
> Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your problem. I used 
> the 0-
> Cloud mirror, both for R
> 3.2.2 and for packages.
> 
> I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works perfectly 
> fine
> for me.
> 
> You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you can
> add?
> 
> Best,
> John
> 
> -
> John Fox, Professor
> McMaster University
> Hamilton, Ontario
> Canada L8S 4M4
> web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox
> 
> 
> ________
> From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares
> [jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]
> Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM
> To: r-help@r-project.org
> Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
> 
> Hello r-help,
> 
> I am quite new to R.  I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows
> 10.
> 
> On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error
> message:
> 
> Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
>   [tcl] invalid command name "configure".
> 
> The lead-up to this was:
> 
> * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find.
> * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install
> * Opened the .exe file as Administrator
> * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator
> * Updated all packages
> * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival
> * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console
> * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed
> * Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu
> * I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn't open properly
> (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn't close 
> properly
> either.  The error message as above showed in the console.
> 
> I haven't posted to the list before and would be very grateful for help.
> Thank you.   Jo

Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

2015-09-03 Thread Joyaa Antares 

Dear John, Dear List,

Thank you for responding.  Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and 
reinstalling again.  Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the 
package library?


I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the whole 
things as Administrator rather than a User.  For the mirror, my first two 
install attempts were via a mirror in Germany.  My 3rd and 4th attempts via 
Cambridge, UK.


Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in 
it worked fine.  I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then 
closed the programs for the night.  The next day, when I tried to reload the 
plugin from R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on 
opting for "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly.


My thanks to you and the list for your time.  Joyaa (Gold Coast, Queensland, 
Australia)


-Original Message- 
From: Fox, John

Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM
To: Joyaa Antares
Cc: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 
10


Dear Joyaa,

I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my 
package library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and 
RcmdrPlugin.survival packages. I took all defaults, except that I selected 
the SDI rather than the default MDI for Rgui, but I seriously doubt that 
this is the source of your problem. I used the 0-Cloud mirror, both for R 
3.2.2 and for packages.


I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works perfectly 
fine for me.


You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you 
can add?


Best,
John

-
John Fox, Professor
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
Canada L8S 4M4
web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox



From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares 
[jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au]

Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM
To: r-help@r-project.org
Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10

Hello r-help,

I am quite new to R.  I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows 
10.


On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error 
message:


Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") :
 [tcl] invalid command name "configure".

The lead-up to this was:

* I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find.
* Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install
* Opened the .exe file as Administrator
* Ran 64-bit R as Administrator
* Updated all packages
* Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival
* Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console
* This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed
* Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu
* I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn’t open 
properly (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn’t 
close properly either.  The error message as above showed in the console.


I haven’t posted to the list before and would be very grateful for help. 
Thank you.   Joyaa

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