[R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Hello r-help, I am quite new to R. I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows 10. On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error message: Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") : [tcl] invalid command name "configure". The lead-up to this was: * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find. * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install * Opened the .exe file as Administrator * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator * Updated all packages * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed * Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu * I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn’t open properly (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn’t close properly either. The error message as above showed in the console. I haven’t posted to the list before and would be very grateful for help. Thank you. Joyaa [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Dear Joyaa, I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my package library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival packages. I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the default MDI for Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your problem. I used the 0-Cloud mirror, both for R 3.2.2 and for packages. I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works perfectly fine for me. You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you can add? Best, John - John Fox, Professor McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8S 4M4 web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares [jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Hello r-help, I am quite new to R. I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows 10. On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error message: Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") : [tcl] invalid command name "configure". The lead-up to this was: * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find. * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install * Opened the .exe file as Administrator * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator * Updated all packages * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed * Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu * I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn’t open properly (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn’t close properly either. The error message as above showed in the console. I haven’t posted to the list before and would be very grateful for help. Thank you. Joyaa [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Dear Joyaa, > -Original Message- > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM > To: Fox, John > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows > 10 > > Dear John, Dear List, > > Thank you for responding. Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and > reinstalling > again. Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the package > library? You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as administrator and that you took all defaults. In that case, the installed packages will be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the SDI rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties. > > I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the whole > things > as Administrator rather than a User. For the mirror, my first two install > attempts > were via a mirror in Germany. My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge, UK. > > Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in it > worked fine. If you said that before, I missed it. > I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed > the programs for the night. The next day, when I tried to reload the plugin > from > R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting for > "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly. Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. My guess is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved workspace is in the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and try again. If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr menus (or if closing R directly, don't save the workspace). I hope this helps, John - John Fox, Professor McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8S 4M4 Web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox > > My thanks to you and the list for your time. Joyaa (Gold Coast, Queensland, > Australia) > > -Original Message- > From: Fox, John > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM > To: Joyaa Antares > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows > 10 > > Dear Joyaa, > > I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my package > library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival > packages. > I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the default > MDI for > Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your problem. I used > the 0- > Cloud mirror, both for R > 3.2.2 and for packages. > > I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works perfectly > fine > for me. > > You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you can > add? > > Best, > John > > - > John Fox, Professor > McMaster University > Hamilton, Ontario > Canada L8S 4M4 > web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox > > > ________________ > From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares > [jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM > To: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 > > Hello r-help, > > I am quite new to R. I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows > 10. > > On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error > message: > > Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") : > [tcl] invalid command name "configure". > > The lead-up to this was: > > * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find. > * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install > * Opened the .exe file as Administrator > * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator > * Updated all packages > * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival > * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console > * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed > * Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu > * I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn't open properly > (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn't close > properly > either. The error message as above showed in the console. > > I haven't posted to the list before and would be very grate
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Dear John, Dear List, Thank you for responding. Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and reinstalling again. Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the package library? I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the whole things as Administrator rather than a User. For the mirror, my first two install attempts were via a mirror in Germany. My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge, UK. Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in it worked fine. I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed the programs for the night. The next day, when I tried to reload the plugin from R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting for "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly. My thanks to you and the list for your time. Joyaa (Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia) -Original Message- From: Fox, John Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM To: Joyaa Antares Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Dear Joyaa, I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my package library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival packages. I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the default MDI for Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your problem. I used the 0-Cloud mirror, both for R 3.2.2 and for packages. I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works perfectly fine for me. You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you can add? Best, John - John Fox, Professor McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8S 4M4 web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares [jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Hello r-help, I am quite new to R. I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows 10. On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error message: Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") : [tcl] invalid command name "configure". The lead-up to this was: * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find. * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install * Opened the .exe file as Administrator * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator * Updated all packages * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed * Loaded RcmdrPlugin.survival from the Tools menu * I was asked to restart R commander, and when I tried it didn’t open properly (showing only File/Edit/Data in the menu bar), and this wouldn’t close properly either. The error message as above showed in the console. I haven’t posted to the list before and would be very grateful for help. Thank you. Joyaa [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. = __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Dear John, Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save the workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the right thing to do. Clearly not!So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output, workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this. Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa -Original Message- From: Fox, John Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM To: Joyaa Antares Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Dear Joyaa, -Original Message- From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM To: Fox, John Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Dear John, Dear List, Thank you for responding. Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and reinstalling again. Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the package library? You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as administrator and that you took all defaults. In that case, the installed packages will be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the SDI rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties. I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the whole things as Administrator rather than a User. For the mirror, my first two install attempts were via a mirror in Germany. My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge, UK. Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in it worked fine. If you said that before, I missed it. I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed the programs for the night. The next day, when I tried to reload the plugin from R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting for "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly. Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. My guess is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved workspace is in the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and try again. If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr menus (or if closing R directly, don't save the workspace). I hope this helps, John - John Fox, Professor McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8S 4M4 Web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox My thanks to you and the list for your time. Joyaa (Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia) -Original Message- From: Fox, John Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:29 AM To: Joyaa Antares Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Dear Joyaa, I too run R 3.2.2 on a Windows 10 system. I uninstalled R, deleted my package library, and then reinstalled R and the Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival packages. I took all defaults, except that I selected the SDI rather than the default MDI for Rgui, but I seriously doubt that this is the source of your problem. I used the 0- Cloud mirror, both for R 3.2.2 and for packages. I'm afraid that I can't duplicate your problem -- everything works perfectly fine for me. You provided a reasonable amount of detail, but is there anything else you can add? Best, John - John Fox, Professor McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario Canada L8S 4M4 web: socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox From: R-help [r-help-boun...@r-project.org] on behalf of Joyaa Antares [jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] Sent: September 3, 2015 8:31 AM To: r-help@r-project.org Subject: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Hello r-help, I am quite new to R. I downloaded R 3.2.2 for Windows to use with Windows 10. On attempting to load the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in I got this error message: Error in structure(.External(.C_dotTclObjv, objv), class = "tclObj") : [tcl] invalid command name "configure". The lead-up to this was: * I uninstalled R 3.2.2 and deleted all R files I could find. * Downloaded R 3.2.2 to do a fresh install * Opened the .exe file as Administrator * Ran 64-bit R as Administrator * Updated all packages * Installed Rcmdr and RcmdrPlugin.survival * Ran Rcmdr using library(Rcmdr) from the console * This required an install of a host of packages, which I installed * Load
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 21:07:19 +1000 "Joyaa Antares" wrote: > Dear John, > > Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did > save the workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a > newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace > intuitively seemed the right thing to do. Clearly not!So now, > before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script > file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding > #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output, > workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I > would be grateful for guidance on this. > > Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa > A potentially useful piece of advise is to avoid using MSWord as a text editor. I don't use Rcmdr, but text files, particularly CSVs are extremely useful in R as data files. Scripts should be pure text as well. Word demands that you keep this in mind at all times. It won't default to a simple text mode. You can use notepad, which MS provides as a stopgap, though I would recommend a more capable programmer's text editor such as Notepad++, a very useful GPL-licensed text editor for Windows, which can be downloaded for free. JWDougherty __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
This is a major point... do not make the mistake that you can "get by" using MSWord as a text editor because it actively changes your code in ways that make sense in a word processor but change code in ways that corrupt it. --- Jeff NewmillerThe . . Go Live... DCN:Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/BatteriesO.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...1k --- Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. On September 4, 2015 7:09:29 AM PDT, jwd wrote: >On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 21:07:19 +1000 >"Joyaa Antares" wrote: > >> Dear John, >> >> Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did >> save the workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a >> newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace >> intuitively seemed the right thing to do. Clearly not!So now, >> before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script >> file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding >> #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output, >> workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I >> would be grateful for guidance on this. >> >> Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa >> >A potentially useful piece of advise is to avoid using MSWord as a text >editor. I don't use Rcmdr, but text files, particularly CSVs are >extremely useful in R as data files. Scripts should be pure text as >well. Word demands that you keep this in mind at all times. It won't >default to a simple text mode. You can use notepad, which MS provides >as a stopgap, though I would recommend a more capable programmer's text >editor such as Notepad++, a very useful GPL-licensed text editor for >Windows, which can be downloaded for free. > >JWDougherty > >__ >R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help >PLEASE do read the posting guide >http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html >and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Dear Joyaa, > -Original Message- > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM > To: Fox, John > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > Windows 10 > > Dear John, > > Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save > the > workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a newbie, being > part > way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the > right > thing to do. Clearly not! It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See Section 6.5. I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing work -- but it my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new users of R, whether or not they're using the R Commander. > So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I > copied > and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few > comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving > R's > script, output, workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable > practice. > If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this. You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script tab has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts, and it offers to save the script when you exit. You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr into Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr Markdown tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The Rcmdr includes an editor for R Markdown documents. See Sections 6.1 and 6.2 of the manual. Best, John > > Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa > > -Original Message----- > From: Fox, John > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM > To: Joyaa Antares > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > Windows > 10 > > Dear Joyaa, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > > Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM > > To: Fox, John > > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > Windows 10 > > > > Dear John, Dear List, > > > > Thank you for responding. Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and > > reinstalling > > again. Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the > package > > library? > > You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as > administrator > and that you took all defaults. In that case, the installed packages > will > be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library > directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do > recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the > SDI > rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties. > > > > > I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the > whole > > things > > as Administrator rather than a User. For the mirror, my first two > install > > attempts > > were via a mirror in Germany. My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge, > UK. > > > > Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival > plug-in > > it > > worked fine. > > If you said that before, I missed it. > > > I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed > > the programs for the night. The next day, when I tried to reload the > > plugin from > > R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting > for > > "Yes", this is when R Commander does not open properly. > > Here's my hypothesis: When you "closed" R, you saved the R workspace. My > guess is that this is the source of your problem. If so, the saved > workspace > is in the file .RData in your home directory; delete it and try again. > > If this works, in future, exit from the Rcmdr and R via the Rcmdr menus > (or > if closing R directly, don't save the workspace). > > I hope this helps, > John > > ----- > John Fox, Professor > McMaster University > Hamilton, Ontario > Can
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Dear Joyaa, > -Original Message- > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > Sent: September 5, 2015 2:07 AM > To: Fox, John > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows > 10 > > Dear John, > > You mention, "the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R > Commander")". > > Apologies for my dumbness, but the manual I did read - and found helpful - > before posting is clearly a different one. A 43 page pdf with no section > numbers nor any reference to the Workspace. (Package ‘Rcmdr’August 19, > 2015 Version 2.2-0Date 2015-08-14Title R Commander // snip > //... Author John Fox [aut, cre], Milan Bouchet-Valat [aut], . // > snip //"). I'm at a loss to explain why your copy of the manual has no section numbers, particularly since the version and date you cite are correct; as I've just confirmed, the PDF manual distributed with version 2.2-0 of the Rcmdr does indeed have section numbers, starting with "1 Introduction" near the top of the first page. In case it's somehow ambiguous, this is section 1. I'll send you a copy of the PDF separately, so as not to waste bandwidth on the r-help list. > > Since the Help page you refer to doesn't seem to be here I'm sorry, but I don't recall referring to a help page and I don't see a reference to a help page in this thread. Can you remind me what I apparently said? Best, John > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help or here > http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/, I would be very grateful for an extra > direction > and apologise for getting a bit lost amongst all the possibilities. > > Kind regards, Joyaa (feeling like a fish in a new ocean). > > > -Original Message- > From: Fox, John > Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 2:07 AM > To: Joyaa Antares > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows > 10 > > Dear Joyaa, > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM > > To: Fox, John > > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > Windows 10 > > > > Dear John, > > > > Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save > > the > > workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a newbie, being > > part > > way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the > > right > > thing to do. Clearly not! > > It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr manual > (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See Section 6.5. > > I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R > Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing work -- > but it > my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new users of R, > whether or not they're using the R Commander. > > > So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's > > script file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with > > preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, > > output, workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable practice. > > If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this. > > You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a > programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular > programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script > tab > has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts, and > it offers > to save the script when you exit. > > You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr > into Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr > Markdown tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The > Rcmdr includes an editor for R Markdown documents. See Sections 6.1 and 6.2 > of the manual. > > Best, > John > > > > > Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Fox, John > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM > > To: Joyaa Antares > > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > > Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > > Windows > > 10 > > > > Dear Joyaa, > > > > > -Orig
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Dear John, You mention, "the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander")". Apologies for my dumbness, but the manual I did read - and found helpful - before posting is clearly a different one. A 43 page pdf with no section numbers nor any reference to the Workspace. (Package ‘Rcmdr’August 19, 2015 Version 2.2-0Date 2015-08-14Title R Commander // snip //... Author John Fox [aut, cre], Milan Bouchet-Valat [aut], . // snip //"). Since the Help page you refer to doesn't seem to be here https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help or here http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/, I would be very grateful for an extra direction and apologise for getting a bit lost amongst all the possibilities. Kind regards, Joyaa (feeling like a fish in a new ocean). -Original Message- From: Fox, John Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 2:07 AM To: Joyaa Antares Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Dear Joyaa, -Original Message- From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 7:07 AM To: Fox, John Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Dear John, Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save the workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the right thing to do. Clearly not! It wouldn't have seemed the correct thing to do had you read the Rcmdr manual (accessible via "Help > Introduction to the R Commander"). See Section 6.5. I understand why saving the workspace was made the default on exiting the R Console -- after all, it can help users to avoid inadvertently losing work -- but it my experience it is a frequent source of confusion among new users of R, whether or not they're using the R Commander. So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output, workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this. You've already received good advice from others about *not* using Word as a programming editor. I think that it's safe to say that the most popular programming editor for R (and for good reason) is RStudio. The Rcmdr script tab has basic editing capabilities, including saving and opening R scripts, and it offers to save the script when you exit. You can, however, paste input and output, including graphs, from the Rcmdr into Word to create a report. It would be better, however, to use the Rcmdr Markdown tab to create reports in the form of HTML, PDF, or Word files. The Rcmdr includes an editor for R Markdown documents. See Sections 6.1 and 6.2 of the manual. Best, John Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa -Original Message- From: Fox, John Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 1:24 PM To: Joyaa Antares Cc: r-help@r-project.org Subject: RE: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 Dear Joyaa, > -Original Message- > From: Joyaa Antares [mailto:jo...@goldcoastosteopathy.com.au] > Sent: September 3, 2015 9:37 PM > To: Fox, John > Cc: r-help@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with > Windows 10 > > Dear John, Dear List, > > Thank you for responding. Like you, I have tried uninstalling R and > reinstalling > again. Question 1: having uninstalled R, how do you delete the package > library? You say below that you installed R packages when R was run as administrator and that you took all defaults. In that case, the installed packages will be in C:\Program Files\R\R-3.2.2\library . Just delete the library directory, which will still be there after R 3.2.2 is uninstalled. I do recommend, by the way, that, for using the Rcmdr, you install R with the SDI rather than the default MDI, but that doesn't explain your difficulties. > > I have used defaults throughout the process, except for running the whole > things > as Administrator rather than a User. For the mirror, my first two install > attempts > were via a mirror in Germany. My 3rd and 4th attempts via Cambridge, UK. > > Perhaps importantly: the first time I ran the RcmdrPlugin.survival plug-in > it > worked fine. If you said that before, I missed it. > I got half way through the exercise I was attempting, then closed > the programs for the night. The next day, when I tried to reload the > plugin from > R Commander, the plugin asked me to restart R Commander, but on opting for > "Yes&qu
Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10
Der JWD, Dear Jeff Newmiller, Many thanks for your useful advice. JWD - I have notepad++ and I don't know why I didn't think of that! Having said that, I will take a look at RStudio that John mentions too. Thanks again. Much appreciated. Joyaa -Original Message- From: jwd Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 12:09 AM To: r-help@r-project.org Cc: Joyaa Antares Subject: Re: [R] Unable to run RcmdrPlugin.survival using 3.2.2 with Windows 10 On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 21:07:19 +1000 "Joyaa Antares" wrote: Dear John, Very many thanks. Your hypothesis was completely correct - I did save the workspace, and this is what created the problem. As a newbie, being part way through an "exercise", saving my workspace intuitively seemed the right thing to do. Clearly not!So now, before I closed R and Rcmdr, I copied and pasted from Rcmdr's script file into a MS Word document, added a few comments (with preceding #), and then closed without otherwise saving R's script, output, workspace or markdown. I hope this is reasonable practice. If not, I would be grateful for guidance on this. Once again, very many thanks. Joyaa A potentially useful piece of advise is to avoid using MSWord as a text editor. I don't use Rcmdr, but text files, particularly CSVs are extremely useful in R as data files. Scripts should be pure text as well. Word demands that you keep this in mind at all times. It won't default to a simple text mode. You can use notepad, which MS provides as a stopgap, though I would recommend a more capable programmer's text editor such as Notepad++, a very useful GPL-licensed text editor for Windows, which can be downloaded for free. JWDougherty __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.