Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
On 27 December 2012 08:46, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Ben - hmm I think I will use a midi/csv utility http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/midicsv/ and see how that goes. Another Hi Greg, Yes you are right, It is for wav analysis but as Ben suggests. Conversion should not be difficult. Also I think it must be 'trivial' to translate that Perl script's (package) to R, if you are really after pure R solution. (I think having something native to read midi will be beneficial to community) option is http://playitbyr.org/index.html and output to Csound and from It is interesting. Can you do some meaningful data exploration with playitbyr or is it pure fun? there to midi. PlayitbyR and into Csound might be something that suits your If you are going to use external program to convert that maybe you can use wav files after all, hence the tuneR. Best, -m __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
On 27 December 2012 08:46, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Ben - hmm I think I will use a midi/csv utility http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/midicsv/ and see how that goes. Another Hi Greg, Yes you are right, It is for wav analysis but as Ben suggests. Conversion should not be difficult. Also I think it must be 'trivial' to translate that Perl script's (package) to R, if you are really after pure R solution. option is http://playitbyr.org/index.html and output to Csound and from It is interesting. Can you do some meaningful data exploration with playitbyr or is it pure fun? there to midi. PlayitbyR and into Csound might be something that suits your If you are going to use external program to convert that maybe you can use wav files after all, hence the tuneR. Best, -m __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
thanks again Mehmet - the midicsv utility is in C (of which I am ignorant). I will have a look at that to see if I can write a native R version. It only has to do midi_in and midi_out, the rest can be left up to R. That will take me ages, but I can just use the utility externally for the moment Greg On 27 December 2012 23:39, Suzen, Mehmet msu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 December 2012 08:46, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Ben - hmm I think I will use a midi/csv utility http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/midicsv/ and see how that goes. Another Hi Greg, Yes you are right, It is for wav analysis but as Ben suggests. Conversion should not be difficult. Also I think it must be 'trivial' to translate that Perl script's (package) to R, if you are really after pure R solution. (I think having something native to read midi will be beneficial to community) option is http://playitbyr.org/index.html and output to Csound and from It is interesting. Can you do some meaningful data exploration with playitbyr or is it pure fun? there to midi. PlayitbyR and into Csound might be something that suits your If you are going to use external program to convert that maybe you can use wav files after all, hence the tuneR. Best, -m [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
On 12-12-27 03:04 PM, Greg Hooper wrote: thanks again Mehmet - the midicsv utility is in C (of which I am ignorant). I will have a look at that to see if I can write a native R version. It only has to do midi_in and midi_out, the rest can be left up to R. That will take me ages, but I can just use the utility externally for the moment Greg I wouldn't bother to try to write a native R version. Since getting R to talk to compiled C code, is pretty easy, if I wanted to integrate it more closely into R I would take the C code and figure out how I could integrate it into an R package as compiled code with a thin R wrapper around it. Since the code license is public domain, you could even redistribute the package freely. But if it's just for personal use, and you don't need it to be incredibly slick, using it externally (via system()) seems perfectly sensible. On 27 December 2012 23:39, Suzen, Mehmet msu...@gmail.com mailto:msu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 December 2012 08:46, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com mailto:gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Ben - hmm I think I will use a midi/csv utility http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/midicsv/ and see how that goes. Another Hi Greg, Yes you are right, It is for wav analysis but as Ben suggests. Conversion should not be difficult. Also I think it must be 'trivial' to translate that Perl script's (package) to R, if you are really after pure R solution. (I think having something native to read midi will be beneficial to community) option is http://playitbyr.org/index.html and output to Csound and from It is interesting. Can you do some meaningful data exploration with playitbyr or is it pure fun? there to midi. PlayitbyR and into Csound might be something that suits your If you are going to use external program to convert that maybe you can use wav files after all, hence the tuneR. Best, -m __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
thanks Ben - that sounds a lot more efficient On 28 December 2012 06:23, Ben Bolker bbol...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-12-27 03:04 PM, Greg Hooper wrote: thanks again Mehmet - the midicsv utility is in C (of which I am ignorant). I will have a look at that to see if I can write a native R version. It only has to do midi_in and midi_out, the rest can be left up to R. That will take me ages, but I can just use the utility externally for the moment Greg I wouldn't bother to try to write a native R version. Since getting R to talk to compiled C code, is pretty easy, if I wanted to integrate it more closely into R I would take the C code and figure out how I could integrate it into an R package as compiled code with a thin R wrapper around it. Since the code license is public domain, you could even redistribute the package freely. But if it's just for personal use, and you don't need it to be incredibly slick, using it externally (via system()) seems perfectly sensible. On 27 December 2012 23:39, Suzen, Mehmet msu...@gmail.com mailto:msu...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 December 2012 08:46, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com mailto:gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Ben - hmm I think I will use a midi/csv utility http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/midicsv/ and see how that goes. Another Hi Greg, Yes you are right, It is for wav analysis but as Ben suggests. Conversion should not be difficult. Also I think it must be 'trivial' to translate that Perl script's (package) to R, if you are really after pure R solution. (I think having something native to read midi will be beneficial to community) option is http://playitbyr.org/index.html and output to Csound and from It is interesting. Can you do some meaningful data exploration with playitbyr or is it pure fun? there to midi. PlayitbyR and into Csound might be something that suits your If you are going to use external program to convert that maybe you can use wav files after all, hence the tuneR. Best, -m [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
On 27 December 2012 21:23, Ben Bolker bbol...@gmail.com wrote: On 12-12-27 03:04 PM, Greg Hooper wrote: it more closely into R I would take the C code and figure out how I could integrate it into an R package as compiled code with a thin R wrapper around it. Since the code license is public domain, you Brilliant! Ben, while interfacing C code to R is very well established. could even redistribute the package freely. But if it's just for personal use, and you don't need it to be incredibly slick, using it externally (via system()) seems perfectly sensible. I would not suggest that. Using system is just a hack in my opinion. It is preferable to have a proper interface to R via .C in a package framework. Concerning license, It is the responsibility of user/developer to consider that :) Cheers, -m __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
Hi Greg, you can try tuneR : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/tuneR/ Best, -m On 26 December 2012 22:04, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using Matlab to produce midi files for sonfication and algorithmic composition projects. I would like to transfer that work into R (in which I am a total newbie) and have been looking for a package that can read and write midi files. No success so far so does anyone know of one? I have seen that I can output to csv and then use a utility to convert csv to midi (and vice-versa). But native R would be better if possible. thanks for any help, Greg [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
Suzen, Mehmet msuzen at gmail.com writes: Hi Greg, you can try tuneR : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/tuneR/ Best, -m tuneR writes Wave (.WAV?) files as output; it can also write output suitable for lilypond input -- and lilypond can write MIDI output. Bottom line, I think you may have to use an external program to convert Wave to midi, or something. It wouldn't be too hard to write ABC (http://abcnotation.org) output and run it through abc2midi ... http://rpubs.com/bbolker/3237 is an example of some stuff I was playing with recently along these lines. I don't see any midi input anywhere ... library(sos); findFn(midi) doesn't give a lot of hits ... On 26 December 2012 22:04, Greg Hooper gregstuarthooper at gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using Matlab to produce midi files for sonfication and algorithmic composition projects. I would like to transfer that work into R (in which I am a total newbie) and have been looking for a package that can read and write midi files. No success so far so does anyone know of one? I have seen that I can output to csv and then use a utility to convert csv to midi (and vice-versa). But native R would be better if possible. thanks for any help, Greg __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
thanks Mehmet - but I can't see how to read or write midifiles from the tuneR docs. Looks primarily for wav file analysis. Am I missing something? Greg On 27 December 2012 09:49, Suzen, Mehmet msu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg, you can try tuneR : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/tuneR/ Best, -m On 26 December 2012 22:04, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using Matlab to produce midi files for sonfication and algorithmic composition projects. I would like to transfer that work into R (in which I am a total newbie) and have been looking for a package that can read and write midi files. No success so far so does anyone know of one? I have seen that I can output to csv and then use a utility to convert csv to midi (and vice-versa). But native R would be better if possible. thanks for any help, Greg [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Re: [R] Is there a package to output midi files for sonification of data
thanks Ben - hmm I think I will use a midi/csv utility http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/midicsv/ and see how that goes. Another option is http://playitbyr.org/index.html and output to Csound and from there to midi. PlayitbyR and into Csound might be something that suits your work, Csound being enormously powerful although a bit clunky to use - although I haven't used it in about 10 years - maybe it has improved since then, perhaps I'd better look :) thanks, Greg tuneR writes Wave (.WAV?) files as output; it can also write output suitable for lilypond input -- and lilypond can write MIDI output. Bottom line, I think you may have to use an external program to convert Wave to midi, or something. It wouldn't be too hard to write ABC (http://abcnotation.org) output and run it through abc2midi ... http://rpubs.com/bbolker/3237 is an example of some stuff I was playing with recently along these lines. I don't see any midi input anywhere ... library(sos); findFn(midi) doesn't give a lot of hits ... On 27 December 2012 10:03, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Mehmet - but I can't see how to read or write midifiles from the tuneR docs. Looks primarily for wav file analysis. Am I missing something? Greg On 27 December 2012 09:49, Suzen, Mehmet msu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg, you can try tuneR : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/tuneR/ Best, -m On 26 December 2012 22:04, Greg Hooper gregstuarthoo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have been using Matlab to produce midi files for sonfication and algorithmic composition projects. I would like to transfer that work into R (in which I am a total newbie) and have been looking for a package that can read and write midi files. No success so far so does anyone know of one? I have seen that I can output to csv and then use a utility to convert csv to midi (and vice-versa). But native R would be better if possible. thanks for any help, Greg [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
