Re: [R-sig-eco] correlation between dissimilarity matrices

2014-05-21 Thread Paolo Piras
Hi Carlos
Very briefly...
you could look at rda() in vegan (not that in calibrate)
partial and constrianed rda seems to be appropriate for your case.
Maybe you should code a bit for controlling your nested stratification variable 
even if it is not very clear to me the nature of the data (sites vs location)
I mean.. how exactly they are structured?
best
paolo




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Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2014 20.57
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Oggetto: [R-sig-eco] correlation between dissimilarity matrices

Hello, I am working with two dissimilarity matrices containing
dissimilarities in taxonomic community structure and environmental
variables, respectively, between different sites. Those sites are grouped in
three different locations. I know I can obtain the correlation between both
matices by using a Mantel test. However, I would also like to know the
correlation between both matrices after removing the effect of the
dissimilarities between locations, i.e. only considering the dissimilarties
within locations. How could I do it?

Thank you very much,

Carlos



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Re: [R-sig-eco] correlation between dissimilarity matrices

2014-05-21 Thread Carlos
Hi Martin, 

Thank you very much for your answer. 

I prefer to introduce environmental variables in a dissimilarity matrix
(b), not as a matrix with different columns being each column an
environmental variable. I was testing with a partial Mantel test. I created
a dissimilarity matrix (c) with zeros when dissimilarities were between
sites of the same location and ones when dissimilarities were between sites
of different locations.  Then, the code would be:

mantel.partial (a, b, c, method = pearson, permutations = n)

Nevertheless, results do not seem correct. I will look into the other
options you have recommended me,

Best,

Carlos




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Re: [R-sig-eco] correlation between dissimilarity matrices

2014-05-21 Thread Carlos
Thank you for your answer, I will also try using rda.

I have two dissimilarity matrices representing distances between sites.
Those sites belong to three different locations. I would like to find out if
the correlation between both matrices is mainly promoted by the fact that
dissimilarities between locations are correlated in both matrices (e.g.
distances between sites from location A and B are high in both matrices), or
on the contrary the correlation between both matrices occurs because
dissimilarities within locations are correlated.

Greetings,

Carlos



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