[Radiant] RedCloth SVN Repository Access Restored

2007-04-02 Thread Benjamin Minton

Emailed _why with this issue: rectified.

RedCloth SVN Repository Access Restored

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-22 Thread Drew Raines
Paul Stadig wrote:

> I for one would rather not insert  tags all over my mark
> up.  If I was gonna do that I'd just do everything in
> straight HTML.  I like the simplicity of Textile.

I like to have wrapped text (which contains inherent newlines)
in page textareas so that it is more readable while editing.
All those newlines shouldn't be converted to s.

If you look at the impetus for Markdown, Textile, et al, it's
to make composing HTML as easy as writing a mail message.
Needing specifically placed line breaks is the exception in
prose, not the rule.  Special formatting is going to be more
difficult with any software.

-Drew

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-22 Thread Drew Raines
John W. Long wrote:

> Keith Bingman wrote:
>> I meant to include this, but forgot:
>> 
>> http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html
>> 
>> He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try
>> this, it disables paragraphs. Oh well...
>
> I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime
> you can just use  tags between lines.

You can also insert one (or more) spaces right before the
newline.  RedCloth will convert /\s+$/ to a .  This is
also ``standard'' Textile.  Try it out:

  http://textism.com/tools/textile/

-Drew

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread John W. Long
MarsHall wrote:
> RedCloth is focused on Textile formatting (with Markdown practically  
> as an aside).
> 
> I suggest using BlueCloth for Markdown:
>http://www.deveiate.org/projects/BlueCloth

Radiant does use BlueCloth for Markdown. We were discussing some 
differences between the way RedCloth formats Textile and the way it 
works with the original Textile library.

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread MarsHall
RedCloth is focused on Textile formatting (with Markdown practically  
as an aside).

I suggest using BlueCloth for Markdown:
   http://www.deveiate.org/projects/BlueCloth

In my experience, it works much better, including a fix for this line  
break problem:

   Two spaces at the end of a line create a ,
 otherwise single carriage returns are ignored.

   Two carriage returns still delimit paragraphs.


*Mars


On Aug 17, 2006, at 07:11, Keith Bingman wrote:

> As far as I can tell, Radiant seems to have the line break bug in
> Redcloth. Is this true? Can it be fixed?
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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Keith Bingman
John W. Long wrote:
> Keith Bingman wrote:
>> I meant to include this, but forgot:
>> 
>> http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html
>> 
>> He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it 
>> disables paragraphs. Oh well...
> 
> I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime you can
> just use  tags between lines.
> 
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I assumed this one be the response. Unfortunately, this is not a site 
for me... one of the pesky customers who doesn't  want to learn...! I 
have a solution though. Thanks for looking into it.

Keith Bingman

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 18, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Paul Stadig wrote:I for one would rather not insert  tags all over my mark up.  If Iwas gonna do that I'd just do everything in straight HTML.  I like thesimplicity of Textile.I'm with Paul. _why might be wrong in this case.Maybe we could relax the gem spec dependency to >= 3.0? -- Daniel Lyons[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Paul Stadig
The hard_breaks bug is even worse than this, I think.  When you turn on
hard_breaks it totally ignores all block specifiers except the first one
(http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/redcloth-upwards/2006-June/49.html). 
When hard_breaks is on this:

p. 703.289.3820 *tel*
703.359.0952 *fax*

p. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]":mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Becomes:

703.289.3820 tel703.359.0952
fax
p. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]

This happens with hn. marks and everything (yikes!).  Downgrading RedCloth
to 3.0.3 seems to fix it, and with hard_breaks you get:

703.289.3820 tel703.359.0952
fax

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I haven't tried downgrading RedCloth with Radiant, but as far as I can
tell it should work???  The 0.5.2 gem spec depends on RedCloth >= 3.0.3.

I for one would rather not insert  tags all over my mark up.  If I
was gonna do that I'd just do everything in straight HTML.  I like the
simplicity of Textile.


Paul

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> John W. Long wrote:
>> Keith Bingman wrote:
>>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> So to clarify, you give it the following:
>>
>>MI 31.08. digi lounging
>>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
>>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
>>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house
>>
>> And expect:
>>
>>MI 31.08. digi lounging
>>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
>>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
>>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house
>>
>> But instead get:
>>
>>MI 31.08. digi lounging
>>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
>>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
>>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house 
>>
>> ?
>>
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>
> Yes, this is how it usually works in Textile, at least in Textpattern.
> As Dean Allen wrote both, one would expect that that is the way it was
> inteneded to work.
>
> _why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work
> for me.
>
>
> Keith Bingman
>
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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread John W. Long
Keith Bingman wrote:
> I meant to include this, but forgot:
> 
> http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html
> 
> He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it 
> disables paragraphs. Oh well...

I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime you can 
just use  tags between lines.

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Keith Bingman
John W. Long wrote:
> Keith Bingman wrote:
>> _why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work 
>> for me.
> 
> Could you point me to a url about this?
> 
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I meant to include this, but forgot:

http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html

He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it 
disables paragraphs. Oh well...

Keith BIngman


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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread John W. Long
Keith Bingman wrote:
> _why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work 
> for me.

Could you point me to a url about this?

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread Keith Bingman
John W. Long wrote:
> Keith Bingman wrote:
>> Does that make sense?
> 
> So to clarify, you give it the following:
> 
>MI 31.08. digi lounging
>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house
> 
> And expect:
> 
>MI 31.08. digi lounging
>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house
> 
> But instead get:
> 
>MI 31.08. digi lounging
>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house 
> 
> ?
> 
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Yes, this is how it usually works in Textile, at least in Textpattern. 
As Dean Allen wrote both, one would expect that that is the way it was 
inteneded to work.

_why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work 
for me.


Keith Bingman


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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread John W. Long
Keith Bingman wrote:
> Does that make sense?

So to clarify, you give it the following:

   MI 31.08. digi lounging
   DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
   FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
   SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house

And expect:

   MI 31.08. digi lounging
   DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
   FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
   SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house

But instead get:

   MI 31.08. digi lounging
   DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
   FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
   SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house 

?

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread Keith Bingman
John W. Long wrote:
> 
> Could you give me an example of text that is being interpreted
> incorrectly and the output?
> 
John,

the text is very simple, just a list that should be given out as a 
block:

MI 31.08. digi lounging
DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house

In Textile, it isn't recognizing the breaks, as is usually the case with 
(non-Rails) Textile. It comes out like this:

MI 31.08. digi lounging
DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house 

This is an on going problem in Rails, I have read about it before, but 
rarely used Textile in a rails setting. I tried switching to hard breaks 
and and while it did give me the break elements, it did give any p 
elements, except for one big one around the text.

Does that make sense?

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread John W. Long
Keith Bingman wrote:
> After googling (like I should have done in the first place) I see that 
> -why has made it like this on purpose, unlike the textile I am used to. 
> Turning hard breaks on, at least as far as I can tell, makes everything 
> one big paragraph, with breaks in between. I need blocks of paragraphs, 
> with line breaks. I got it to work in Markdown, but one really prefer 
> Textile.
> 
> I know this has been a probem in Rails generally, but never have 
> personally found a good solution.

Could you give me an example of text that is being interpreted 
incorrectly and the output?

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread Keith Bingman
Keith Bingman wrote:
> As far as I can tell, Radiant seems to have the line break bug in 
> Redcloth. Is this true? Can it be fixed?

After googling (like I should have done in the first place) I see that 
-why has made it like this on purpose, unlike the textile I am used to. 
Turning hard breaks on, at least as far as I can tell, makes everything 
one big paragraph, with breaks in between. I need blocks of paragraphs, 
with line breaks. I got it to work in Markdown, but one really prefer 
Textile.

I know this has been a probem in Rails generally, but never have 
personally found a good solution.

Any ideas?

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[Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread Keith Bingman
As far as I can tell, Radiant seems to have the line break bug in 
Redcloth. Is this true? Can it be fixed?

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