Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-28 Thread Andrew Klein
After using the edge install of Radiant, it seems that I still 
occasionally get the issue mentioned previously. For some reason, even 
after I clear the cache, it still seems to take up to 5 minutes 
(randomly, it doesn't always do it, but does still occasionally) to 
update some pages. It doesn't always do it (It's done it twice out of 
five posts) but does still crop up. As someone else mentioned, the 
quickest way to fix it is to open the pages that are giving grief 
updating and simply re-save the page and it fixes itself immediately. 
Any ideas?

Thanks again!
Andrew (BT)

Andrew Klein wrote:
 Thanks a lot! I guess I should read the earlier emails better :D It did 
 work however, so I so thank you all.
 BT

 Thomas Bell wrote:
   
 Yep.

 Daniel wrote:
 You can update to the trunk with

 rake radiant:freeze:edge

 Once it is fixed in the stable build, you can run:

 rake radiant:unfreeze

 To go back to using the gem.
 --Tom

 On Nov 23, 2007 6:08 PM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 
 I don't appear to have those, no. Update to trunk, you're meaning via svn?

 Thanks again!
 BT

 Thomas Bell wrote:
 
   
 Do you have a cache.data and a cache.yml in your radiant install.
 I did and I had to upgrade to the trunk. Everything works smoothly now.
 --Tom

 On Nov 23, 2007 6:38 AM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 
 wrote:
 
   
   
 
 Sorry about the delay in responding; Life's been kicking me in the
 
   
 butt.
 
   
 When I click clear cache, it clears everything in the cache directory,
 but even with the cache directory gone, even if I force-refresh, I get
 the same page back again and won't update for a few minutes. The files
 do rebuild themselves. I'm not sure what the apparent issue is at all;
 
   
 I
 
   
 didn't have this issue before. One thought that did cross my mind was
 what if the caching headers aren't being written correctly for some
 reason anymore? (IE:- what the browser sees) This issue only appeared
 
   
 in
 
   
 0.6.4, so I'm not sure where it did come from, but it is a reasonable
 issue I would say.

 Thanks!
 BT
 (PS I'll try to be a little more responsive)

 Daniel Sheppard wrote:

 
   
 I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to
 change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with
 changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked
 this earlier)
 and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home
 
   
 page.
 
   
 
   
 Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
 think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the
 cache dir.

 When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache

   
 
 directory?

 
   
 What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):

 ruby script/console
 ResponseCache.instance.clear

 What if you run that again as a different user?

 Dan

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-24 Thread Andrew Klein
Thanks a lot! I guess I should read the earlier emails better :D It did 
work however, so I so thank you all.
BT

Thomas Bell wrote:
 Yep.

 Daniel wrote:
 You can update to the trunk with

 rake radiant:freeze:edge

 Once it is fixed in the stable build, you can run:

 rake radiant:unfreeze

 To go back to using the gem.
 --Tom

 On Nov 23, 2007 6:08 PM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I don't appear to have those, no. Update to trunk, you're meaning via svn?

 Thanks again!
 BT

 Thomas Bell wrote:
 
 Do you have a cache.data and a cache.yml in your radiant install.
 I did and I had to upgrade to the trunk. Everything works smoothly now.
 --Tom

 On Nov 23, 2007 6:38 AM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
 wrote:
 
   
 Sorry about the delay in responding; Life's been kicking me in the
 
 butt.
 
 When I click clear cache, it clears everything in the cache directory,
 but even with the cache directory gone, even if I force-refresh, I get
 the same page back again and won't update for a few minutes. The files
 do rebuild themselves. I'm not sure what the apparent issue is at all;
 
 I
 
 didn't have this issue before. One thought that did cross my mind was
 what if the caching headers aren't being written correctly for some
 reason anymore? (IE:- what the browser sees) This issue only appeared
 
 in
 
 0.6.4, so I'm not sure where it did come from, but it is a reasonable
 issue I would say.

 Thanks!
 BT
 (PS I'll try to be a little more responsive)

 Daniel Sheppard wrote:

 
 I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to
 change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with
 changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked
 this earlier)
 and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home
 
 page.
 
 
 Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
 think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the
 cache dir.

 When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache

   
 directory?

 
 What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):

 ruby script/console
 ResponseCache.instance.clear

 What if you run that again as a different user?

 Dan

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-23 Thread Andrew Klein
I don't appear to have those, no. Update to trunk, you're meaning via svn?

Thanks again!
BT

Thomas Bell wrote:
 Do you have a cache.data and a cache.yml in your radiant install.
 I did and I had to upgrade to the trunk. Everything works smoothly now.
 --Tom

 On Nov 23, 2007 6:38 AM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Sorry about the delay in responding; Life's been kicking me in the butt.

 When I click clear cache, it clears everything in the cache directory,
 but even with the cache directory gone, even if I force-refresh, I get
 the same page back again and won't update for a few minutes. The files
 do rebuild themselves. I'm not sure what the apparent issue is at all; I
 didn't have this issue before. One thought that did cross my mind was
 what if the caching headers aren't being written correctly for some
 reason anymore? (IE:- what the browser sees) This issue only appeared in
 0.6.4, so I'm not sure where it did come from, but it is a reasonable
 issue I would say.

 Thanks!
 BT
 (PS I'll try to be a little more responsive)

 Daniel Sheppard wrote:
 
 I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to
 change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with
 changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked
 this earlier)
 and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home page.

 
 Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
 think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the
 cache dir.

 When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache
   
 directory?
 
 What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):

 ruby script/console
 ResponseCache.instance.clear

 What if you run that again as a different user?

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-23 Thread Thomas Bell
Yep.

Daniel wrote:
You can update to the trunk with

rake radiant:freeze:edge

Once it is fixed in the stable build, you can run:

rake radiant:unfreeze

To go back to using the gem.
--Tom

On Nov 23, 2007 6:08 PM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't appear to have those, no. Update to trunk, you're meaning via svn?

 Thanks again!
 BT

 Thomas Bell wrote:
  Do you have a cache.data and a cache.yml in your radiant install.
  I did and I had to upgrade to the trunk. Everything works smoothly now.
  --Tom
 
  On Nov 23, 2007 6:38 AM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 
  Sorry about the delay in responding; Life's been kicking me in the
 butt.
 
  When I click clear cache, it clears everything in the cache directory,
  but even with the cache directory gone, even if I force-refresh, I get
  the same page back again and won't update for a few minutes. The files
  do rebuild themselves. I'm not sure what the apparent issue is at all;
 I
  didn't have this issue before. One thought that did cross my mind was
  what if the caching headers aren't being written correctly for some
  reason anymore? (IE:- what the browser sees) This issue only appeared
 in
  0.6.4, so I'm not sure where it did come from, but it is a reasonable
  issue I would say.
 
  Thanks!
  BT
  (PS I'll try to be a little more responsive)
 
  Daniel Sheppard wrote:
 
  I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to
  change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with
  changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked
  this earlier)
  and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home
 page.
 
 
  Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
  think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the
  cache dir.
 
  When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache
 
  directory?
 
  What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):
 
  ruby script/console
  ResponseCache.instance.clear
 
  What if you run that again as a different user?
 
  Dan
 
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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-23 Thread Andrew Klein
Sorry about the delay in responding; Life's been kicking me in the butt.

When I click clear cache, it clears everything in the cache directory, 
but even with the cache directory gone, even if I force-refresh, I get 
the same page back again and won't update for a few minutes. The files 
do rebuild themselves. I'm not sure what the apparent issue is at all; I 
didn't have this issue before. One thought that did cross my mind was 
what if the caching headers aren't being written correctly for some 
reason anymore? (IE:- what the browser sees) This issue only appeared in 
0.6.4, so I'm not sure where it did come from, but it is a reasonable 
issue I would say.

Thanks!
BT
(PS I'll try to be a little more responsive)

Daniel Sheppard wrote:
 I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to 
 change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with 
 changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked 
 this earlier) 
 and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home page.
 

 Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
 think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the 
 cache dir. 

 When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache directory?

 What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):

 ruby script/console
 ResponseCache.instance.clear

 What if you run that again as a different user?

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-23 Thread Thomas Bell
Do you have a cache.data and a cache.yml in your radiant install.
I did and I had to upgrade to the trunk. Everything works smoothly now.
--Tom

On Nov 23, 2007 6:38 AM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry about the delay in responding; Life's been kicking me in the butt.

 When I click clear cache, it clears everything in the cache directory,
 but even with the cache directory gone, even if I force-refresh, I get
 the same page back again and won't update for a few minutes. The files
 do rebuild themselves. I'm not sure what the apparent issue is at all; I
 didn't have this issue before. One thought that did cross my mind was
 what if the caching headers aren't being written correctly for some
 reason anymore? (IE:- what the browser sees) This issue only appeared in
 0.6.4, so I'm not sure where it did come from, but it is a reasonable
 issue I would say.

 Thanks!
 BT
 (PS I'll try to be a little more responsive)

 Daniel Sheppard wrote:
  I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to
  change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with
  changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked
  this earlier)
  and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home page.
 
 
  Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
  think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the
  cache dir.
 
  When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache
 directory?
 
  What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):
 
  ruby script/console
  ResponseCache.instance.clear
 
  What if you run that again as a different user?
 
  Dan
 
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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Thomas Bell
Same problem here. I've found that you have to save the parent page before
any changes in the children (or snippets) show up.
--Tom

On Nov 21, 2007 6:39 AM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello there all!

 Ever since I upgraded to 0.6.4, I've noticed a bit of a trend with this
 version. Ever since I have upgraded, I have found that when I make a
 post to my site, it doesn't immediately process itself onto pages it
 resides on, even when I do a Clear Cache. It can take sometimes up to 5
 minutes before it will populate all the pages. I've tried different
 browsers, different computers, as well as clearing my browser's cache,
 restarting the browser and so forth. The actual page does render when I
 manually go to it, but nothing else seems to appear. I'm not sure where
 this issue is, but it is a bit irritating at best; It certainly throws
 things for a loop when I'm trying to throw up a post right before work
 or on a tight schedule. Does anyone have any ideas?

 Thanks!
 BT
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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Andrew,

I have seen and reported the same thing here. No response so far...

Regards,
 Erik.


Andrew Klein wrote:
 Ever since I have upgraded, I have found that when I make a 
 post to my site, it doesn't immediately process itself onto pages it 
 resides on, even when I do a Clear Cache
   

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Thomas Bell
Well maybe it has always been this way I'm pretty new to radiant.
Workflow for me:
Home Page
  Article
First Post Change Something Here
That change doesn't show up for me until after I save Home Page.

Could be a different Issue than Andrews if it is sorry for the confusion.
--Tom

On Nov 21, 2007 9:00 AM, Sean Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you speaking of children that are displayed (by link or inclusion
 or something) within a parent page?  If so, clearing the parent has
 never been a feature.  Otherwise, give me a workflow that reproduces
 the problem and we'll see what we can do.

 Sean

 On Nov 21, 2007 7:39 AM, Andrew Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello there all!
 
  Ever since I upgraded to 0.6.4, I've noticed a bit of a trend with this
  version. Ever since I have upgraded, I have found that when I make a
  post to my site, it doesn't immediately process itself onto pages it
  resides on, even when I do a Clear Cache. It can take sometimes up to 5
  minutes before it will populate all the pages. I've tried different
  browsers, different computers, as well as clearing my browser's cache,
  restarting the browser and so forth. The actual page does render when I
  manually go to it, but nothing else seems to appear. I'm not sure where
  this issue is, but it is a bit irritating at best; It certainly throws
  things for a loop when I'm trying to throw up a post right before work
  or on a tight schedule. Does anyone have any ideas?
 
  Thanks!
  BT
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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Mohit Sindhwani
Erik van Oosten wrote:
 Hi Andrew,

 I have seen and reported the same thing here. No response so far...

 Regards,
  Erik.


 Andrew Klein wrote:
   
 Ever since I have upgraded, I have found that when I make a 
 post to my site, it doesn't immediately process itself onto pages it 
 resides on, even when I do a Clear Cache  

I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to 
change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with 
changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked this earlier) 
and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home page.

Then, I go to the home page and do a save! and voila - everything is 
updated as it should be.

Sean, is there something we can check to help with analyzing this?

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel Sheppard
 I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to 
 change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with 
 changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked 
 this earlier) 
 and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home page.

Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the 
cache dir. 

When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache directory?

What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):

ruby script/console
ResponseCache.instance.clear

What if you run that again as a different user?

Dan

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Thomas Bell
My cache dir is empty after running Clear Cache.
Should the cache.data and cache.yml files have a new time or get deleted
too?
--Tom

On Nov 21, 2007 3:21 PM, Daniel Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  I think I can agree with this.  It has almost become second nature to
  change the home page to reset the cache.  I have noticed this with
  changing snippets (which should clear cache - I had asked
  this earlier)
  and then clearing the cache.  No go!  It doesn't update the home page.

 Well the code is fairly straightforward. The only thing that I can
 think of that might interrupt it would be file permissions in the
 cache dir.

 When you click clear cache, is there anything left in your cache
 directory?

 What about if you run (as the same user your server runs as):

 ruby script/console
 ResponseCache.instance.clear

 What if you run that again as a different user?

 Dan

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel Sheppard
 My cache dir is empty after running Clear Cache.
 Should the cache.data and cache.yml files have a new time or 
 get deleted
 too?

Ah! Yes, they should be deleted - in fact they shouldn't be created.

This was recently fixed on the trunk.

Dan.

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Thomas Bell
Should I delete them? I used the gem install so I guess that I will have to
wait or is there an easy way to upgrade to the trunk?
--Tom

On Nov 21, 2007 4:33 PM, Daniel Sheppard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  My cache dir is empty after running Clear Cache.
  Should the cache.data and cache.yml files have a new time or
  get deleted
  too?

 Ah! Yes, they should be deleted - in fact they shouldn't be created.

 This was recently fixed on the trunk.

 Dan.

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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Thomas Bell
Well that was kind of a dumb question they are cache files they will just
get recreated.
--Tom


On Nov 21, 2007 5:27 PM, Thomas Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Should I delete them? I used the gem install so I guess that I will have
 to wait or is there an easy way to upgrade to the trunk?
 --Tom


 On Nov 21, 2007 4:33 PM, Daniel Sheppard  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   My cache dir is empty after running Clear Cache.
   Should the cache.data and cache.yml files have a new time or
   get deleted
   too?
 
  Ah! Yes, they should be deleted - in fact they shouldn't be created.
 
  This was recently fixed on the trunk.
 
  Dan.
 
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Re: [Radiant] Issue with page updating since 0.6.4

2007-11-21 Thread Daniel Sheppard
 Should I delete them? I used the gem install so I guess that 
 I will have to
 wait or is there an easy way to upgrade to the trunk?
 --Tom

You can update to the trunk with

rake radiant:freeze:edge 

Once it is fixed in the stable build, you can run:

rake radiant:unfreeze

To go back to using the gem.

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