Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-22 Thread Drew Raines
John W. Long wrote:

 Keith Bingman wrote:
 I meant to include this, but forgot:
 
 http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html
 
 He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try
 this, it disables paragraphs. Oh well...

 I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime
 you can just use br / tags between lines.

You can also insert one (or more) spaces right before the
newline.  RedCloth will convert /\s+$/ to a br /.  This is
also ``standard'' Textile.  Try it out:

  http://textism.com/tools/textile/

-Drew

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-22 Thread Drew Raines
Paul Stadig wrote:

 I for one would rather not insert br/ tags all over my mark
 up.  If I was gonna do that I'd just do everything in
 straight HTML.  I like the simplicity of Textile.

I like to have wrapped text (which contains inherent newlines)
in page textareas so that it is more readable while editing.
All those newlines shouldn't be converted to br /s.

If you look at the impetus for Markdown, Textile, et al, it's
to make composing HTML as easy as writing a mail message.
Needing specifically placed line breaks is the exception in
prose, not the rule.  Special formatting is going to be more
difficult with any software.

-Drew

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Keith Bingman
John W. Long wrote:
 Keith Bingman wrote:
 _why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work 
 for me.
 
 Could you point me to a url about this?
 
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I meant to include this, but forgot:

http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html

He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it 
disables paragraphs. Oh well...

Keith BIngman


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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread John W. Long
Keith Bingman wrote:
 I meant to include this, but forgot:
 
 http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html
 
 He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it 
 disables paragraphs. Oh well...

I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime you can 
just use br / tags between lines.

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Paul Stadig
The hard_breaks bug is even worse than this, I think.  When you turn on
hard_breaks it totally ignores all block specifiers except the first one
(http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/redcloth-upwards/2006-June/49.html). 
When hard_breaks is on this:

p. 703.289.3820 *tel*
703.359.0952 *fax*

p. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Becomes:

p703.289.3820 strongtel/strongbr /703.359.0952
strongfax/strongbr /
p. a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a/p

This happens with hn. marks and everything (yikes!).  Downgrading RedCloth
to 3.0.3 seems to fix it, and with hard_breaks you get:

p703.289.3820 strongtel/strongbr /703.359.0952
strongfax/strong/p

pa href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]/a/p

I haven't tried downgrading RedCloth with Radiant, but as far as I can
tell it should work???  The 0.5.2 gem spec depends on RedCloth = 3.0.3.

I for one would rather not insert br/ tags all over my mark up.  If I
was gonna do that I'd just do everything in straight HTML.  I like the
simplicity of Textile.


Paul

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 John W. Long wrote:
 Keith Bingman wrote:
 Does that make sense?

 So to clarify, you give it the following:

MI 31.08. digi lounging
DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house

 And expect:

pMI 31.08. digi loungingbr/
DO 01.09. rive gauche opening partybr/
FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul productionbr/
SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house/p

 But instead get:

pMI 31.08. digi lounging
DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house /p

 ?

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 Yes, this is how it usually works in Textile, at least in Textpattern.
 As Dean Allen wrote both, one would expect that that is the way it was
 inteneded to work.

 _why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work
 for me.


 Keith Bingman


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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 18, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Paul Stadig wrote:I for one would rather not insert br/ tags all over my mark up.  If Iwas gonna do that I'd just do everything in straight HTML.  I like thesimplicity of Textile.I'm with Paul. _why might be wrong in this case.Maybe we could relax the gem spec dependency to = 3.0? -- Daniel Lyons[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread Keith Bingman
John W. Long wrote:
 Keith Bingman wrote:
 I meant to include this, but forgot:
 
 http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html
 
 He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it 
 disables paragraphs. Oh well...
 
 I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime you can
 just use br / tags between lines.
 
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 http://wiseheartdesign.com

I assumed this one be the response. Unfortunately, this is not a site 
for me... one of the pesky customers who doesn't  want to learn...! I 
have a solution though. Thanks for looking into it.

Keith Bingman

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-18 Thread John W. Long
MarsHall wrote:
 RedCloth is focused on Textile formatting (with Markdown practically  
 as an aside).
 
 I suggest using BlueCloth for Markdown:
http://www.deveiate.org/projects/BlueCloth

Radiant does use BlueCloth for Markdown. We were discussing some 
differences between the way RedCloth formats Textile and the way it 
works with the original Textile library.

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread John W. Long
Keith Bingman wrote:
 After googling (like I should have done in the first place) I see that 
 -why has made it like this on purpose, unlike the textile I am used to. 
 Turning hard breaks on, at least as far as I can tell, makes everything 
 one big paragraph, with breaks in between. I need blocks of paragraphs, 
 with line breaks. I got it to work in Markdown, but one really prefer 
 Textile.
 
 I know this has been a probem in Rails generally, but never have 
 personally found a good solution.

Could you give me an example of text that is being interpreted 
incorrectly and the output?

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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth

2006-08-17 Thread John W. Long
Keith Bingman wrote:
 Does that make sense?

So to clarify, you give it the following:

   MI 31.08. digi lounging
   DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
   FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
   SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house

And expect:

   pMI 31.08. digi loungingbr/
   DO 01.09. rive gauche opening partybr/
   FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul productionbr/
   SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house/p

But instead get:

   pMI 31.08. digi lounging
   DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party
   FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production
   SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house /p

?

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