Re: [Radiant] Structured Content

2007-12-13 Thread Sean Cribbs
Tristan,

I would recommend something else entirely.  If your data is very 
field-oriented (not lots of plain text), create an extension with a 
model or set of models that more properly map to the problem, create 
controllers to administer them, and then create Radius tags to output 
their information into a page.

While I have created an extension that does something similar to TYPO3's 
FCE (although Radiant is not a page builder-style CMS like TYPO3), 
it's not ready for public consumption yet.  The extension essentially 
allows you to define a 'template' for any given page and use the 
template to constrain both the output and the structure of the UI that 
is presented to the content editor.

I hate to tease all of you with these vapor-ware extensions, but I 
promise I will release them in early January when I have a few days to 
clean them up.

Sean

Tristan Koch wrote:
 Hi,

 I was wondering: what is the recommended way to model structured content
 in Radiant?

 Say, I want to have a list of contact items:

 
 Department #1
 Image of Department #1
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   (…)
   

 
 Department #2
 Image of Department #2
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   (…)
   

 I can think of two possible solutions:

 #1 a page for each box with subpages, where each subpage has tabs with
 the fields (e.g. description, image).

 #2 an extension that overrides the normal body and instead displays a
 form for each set, with the ability to add a new set by clicking on a +
 button. In this example, there would be two pages with a specific type
 (=contact). [somewhat similar to Typo3 XML based Flexible Content
 Elements, aka FCE]

 Maybe I'm wrong, but to me #1 doesn't appear very user-friendly,
 especially if there are many fields.

 Is there an extension that offers features similiar to #2?

 Thanks
 Tristan

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Re: [Radiant] Structured Content

2007-12-13 Thread Tristan Koch
Hi Sean,

Creating an extension with a specific model seems to be a good option,
although I'm very curious about your template extension!

Still, I'm not sure where to put the UI of the controller. It handles
content, so I should be in the Page Tab. But then, I would need to
replace the body from the Page editing UI. Does Shards support this? Or
would you recommend to put the UI in a seperate Tab (like Gallery).

Tristan

Sean Cribbs schrieb:
 Tristan,
 
 I would recommend something else entirely.  If your data is very 
 field-oriented (not lots of plain text), create an extension with a 
 model or set of models that more properly map to the problem, create 
 controllers to administer them, and then create Radius tags to output 
 their information into a page.
 
 While I have created an extension that does something similar to TYPO3's 
 FCE (although Radiant is not a page builder-style CMS like TYPO3), 
 it's not ready for public consumption yet.  The extension essentially 
 allows you to define a 'template' for any given page and use the 
 template to constrain both the output and the structure of the UI that 
 is presented to the content editor.
 
 I hate to tease all of you with these vapor-ware extensions, but I 
 promise I will release them in early January when I have a few days to 
 clean them up.
 
 Sean
 
 Tristan Koch wrote:
 Hi,

 I was wondering: what is the recommended way to model structured content
 in Radiant?

 Say, I want to have a list of contact items:

 
 Department #1
 Image of Department #1
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   (…)
   

 
 Department #2
 Image of Department #2
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   (…)
   

 I can think of two possible solutions:

 #1 a page for each box with subpages, where each subpage has tabs with
 the fields (e.g. description, image).

 #2 an extension that overrides the normal body and instead displays a
 form for each set, with the ability to add a new set by clicking on a +
 button. In this example, there would be two pages with a specific type
 (=contact). [somewhat similar to Typo3 XML based Flexible Content
 Elements, aka FCE]

 Maybe I'm wrong, but to me #1 doesn't appear very user-friendly,
 especially if there are many fields.

 Is there an extension that offers features similiar to #2?

 Thanks
 Tristan

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Re: [Radiant] Structured Content

2007-12-13 Thread Sean Cribbs
You can add tabs to the Radiant interface in your extension that point 
to the url of your custom controller that handles manages your 
structured data.  Rather than replacing the interface, you would create 
Radius tags that expose the data to a regular page.  All of this is 
explained extensively in the extensions tutorial on 
wiki.radiantcms.org.  Have a look!

Sean

Tristan Koch wrote:
 Hi Sean,

 Creating an extension with a specific model seems to be a good option,
 although I'm very curious about your template extension!

 Still, I'm not sure where to put the UI of the controller. It handles
 content, so I should be in the Page Tab. But then, I would need to
 replace the body from the Page editing UI. Does Shards support this? Or
 would you recommend to put the UI in a seperate Tab (like Gallery).

 Tristan

 Sean Cribbs schrieb:
   
 Tristan,

 I would recommend something else entirely.  If your data is very 
 field-oriented (not lots of plain text), create an extension with a 
 model or set of models that more properly map to the problem, create 
 controllers to administer them, and then create Radius tags to output 
 their information into a page.

 While I have created an extension that does something similar to TYPO3's 
 FCE (although Radiant is not a page builder-style CMS like TYPO3), 
 it's not ready for public consumption yet.  The extension essentially 
 allows you to define a 'template' for any given page and use the 
 template to constrain both the output and the structure of the UI that 
 is presented to the content editor.

 I hate to tease all of you with these vapor-ware extensions, but I 
 promise I will release them in early January when I have a few days to 
 clean them up.

 Sean

 Tristan Koch wrote:
 
 Hi,

 I was wondering: what is the recommended way to model structured content
 in Radiant?

 Say, I want to have a list of contact items:

 
 Department #1
 Image of Department #1
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   (…)
   

 
 Department #2
 Image of Department #2
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   Name
   Adress
   E-Mail
   Picture
   
   (…)
   

 I can think of two possible solutions:

 #1 a page for each box with subpages, where each subpage has tabs with
 the fields (e.g. description, image).

 #2 an extension that overrides the normal body and instead displays a
 form for each set, with the ability to add a new set by clicking on a +
 button. In this example, there would be two pages with a specific type
 (=contact). [somewhat similar to Typo3 XML based Flexible Content
 Elements, aka FCE]

 Maybe I'm wrong, but to me #1 doesn't appear very user-friendly,
 especially if there are many fields.

 Is there an extension that offers features similiar to #2?

 Thanks
 Tristan

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