Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-28 Thread Dyonisius Visser
On 14/06/2011 15:21, Heikki Vatiainen wrote:

 Linux also has this special file to control the system wide behaviour:
 
 /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only
 If I do this to enable the option:
 echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only
 
 the same configuration works:
 
 BindAddress ipv6:::, 0.0.0.0


Works for me too!

Thanks :-)


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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-14 Thread Alexander Hartmaier
Does this mean that we can't bind to IPv4 and IPv6 separately on Linux
to not get v6 mapped v4 addresses?

Am 2011-06-09 19:50, schrieb Heikki Vatiainen:
 On 06/09/2011 05:37 PM, Dyonisius Visser wrote:
 Well, I installed a second instance on a dual stack host, and I tested
 various combinations:
 Thanks for the summary.

 BindAddress 192.87.30.31,ipv6:2001:610:148:dead::31
  I.e. hardcoded addresses - this works, both IPv4 and IPv6 clients work

 BindAddress ipv6:::
 IPv4 blocked (NOTICE: Request from unknown client 192.87.30.32: ignored)
 This should work if you specify your client like this:

 Client ipv6::::192.87.30.32

 Since the request arrived over IPv4 but was delivered to the application
 by IPv6 wildcard socket, the IPv4 address is presented as an IPv6
 address. See

 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4291#section-2.5.5

 section 2.5.5.2. IPv4-Mapped IPv6 Address. The purpose of this mapping
 is to let the application to know was the message received over IPv6 or
 IPv4 since the socket can handle both protocols.


 BindAddress 0.0.0.0
This is the default. IPv4 clients work. IPv6 clients DO NOT work,
 and worse, nothing is logged by radiator, no request from unknown
 client 2001:610:blah:blah

 BindAddress ipv6:::,0.0.0.0
Startup gives some errors, and only IPv6 works:
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
 '/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
 '/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: NOTICE: Server started: Radiator 4.8 on radius
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:55 2011: NOTICE: Request from unknown client
 145.100.98.42: ignored

 BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::
Also some errors, only IPv4 works, and also nothing logged when an
 IPv6 client connects:
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
 '/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
 '/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: NOTICE: Server started: Radiator 4.8 on radius


 So the only way I can radiator to accept requests from both protocols,
 is to hardcode the interface addresses.

 Would it be possible to have radiator listen to 4+6 without hard coding?

 I think that option (whatever it looks like) should be the default.

 If possible, can the behavior of the current default ('BindAddress
 0.0.0.0') be changed so that it actually logs ignored incoming
 requests?
 I've spend quite some time figuring out what is going on, and only
 tcpdump revealed that requests are actually reaching my box.

 Thanks :-)



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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-14 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
On 06/14/2011 11:45 AM, Alexander Hartmaier wrote:
 Does this mean that we can't bind to IPv4 and IPv6 separately on Linux
 to not get v6 mapped v4 addresses?

I think the mapped addresses are only seen when a wildcard IPv6 bind is
done. If you bind to a non-wildcard IPv4 or IPv6 address, you should
only see traffic that arrived over IPv4 or IPv6, respectively.

To control the mapped addresses, there is IPV6_V6ONLY socket option, see
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3493#section-5.3 for more

Linux also has this special file to control the system wide behaviour:

/proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only

By default this seems to be 0. When it is 0, this will not work:

BindAddress ipv6:::, 0.0.0.0

The result in logs is this:

Tue Jun 14 16:15:07 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61645
Tue Jun 14 16:15:07 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61646
Tue Jun 14 16:15:07 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1645
Tue Jun 14 16:15:07 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
Address already in use
Tue Jun 14 16:15:07 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1646
Tue Jun 14 16:15:07 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket: Address
already in use

If I do this to enable the option:
echo 1 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only

the same configuration works:

BindAddress ipv6:::, 0.0.0.0

Tue Jun 14 16:16:20 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61645
Tue Jun 14 16:16:20 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61646
Tue Jun 14 16:16:20 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1645
Tue Jun 14 16:16:20 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1646

When I used radpwtst to send requests to ipv6:::1 or 127.0.0.1 these
Client clauses were matched, respectively:

Client ipv6:::1
Identifier ipv6-loopback
Secret  mysecret
DupInterval 0
/Client
Client 127.0.0.1
Identifier ipv4-loopback
Secret  mysecret
DupInterval 0
/Client

# Use this to check which Client clause matched
Handler
AuthBy FILE
Filename%D/users-%{Client:Identifier}
/AuthBy
/Handler

This may be useful for controlling IPv6 behaviour.

Thanks!
Heikki


 Am 2011-06-09 19:50, schrieb Heikki Vatiainen:
 On 06/09/2011 05:37 PM, Dyonisius Visser wrote:
 Well, I installed a second instance on a dual stack host, and I tested
 various combinations:
 Thanks for the summary.

 BindAddress 192.87.30.31,ipv6:2001:610:148:dead::31
  I.e. hardcoded addresses - this works, both IPv4 and IPv6 clients work

 BindAddress ipv6:::
 IPv4 blocked (NOTICE: Request from unknown client 192.87.30.32: ignored)
 This should work if you specify your client like this:

 Client ipv6::::192.87.30.32

 Since the request arrived over IPv4 but was delivered to the application
 by IPv6 wildcard socket, the IPv4 address is presented as an IPv6
 address. See

 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4291#section-2.5.5

 section 2.5.5.2. IPv4-Mapped IPv6 Address. The purpose of this mapping
 is to let the application to know was the message received over IPv6 or
 IPv4 since the socket can handle both protocols.


 BindAddress 0.0.0.0
This is the default. IPv4 clients work. IPv6 clients DO NOT work,
 and worse, nothing is logged by radiator, no request from unknown
 client 2001:610:blah:blah

 BindAddress ipv6:::,0.0.0.0
Startup gives some errors, and only IPv6 works:
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
 '/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
 '/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: NOTICE: Server started: Radiator 4.8 on radius
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:55 2011: NOTICE: Request from unknown client
 145.100.98.42: ignored

 BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::
Also some errors, only IPv4 works, and also nothing logged when an
 IPv6 client connects:
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
 '/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
 '/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
 

Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi,

 Could it be the same as other apps, '::' ?
 
 
 I have now configured the hard coded addresses as a work aroudn.

goodies/ipv6.cfg

BindAddress ipv6:::

(this is basically saying, use ipv6:  and bind to ::   - like other daemons do)

please note that you must use ipv6: as the prefix to hostnames to use the IPv6 
address
or it will use ipv4 by default

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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Dyonisius Visser
On 09/06/2011 12:48, Alan Buxey wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Could it be the same as other apps, '::' ?


 I have now configured the hard coded addresses as a work aroudn.
 
 goodies/ipv6.cfg
 
 BindAddress ipv6:::
 
 (this is basically saying, use ipv6:  and bind to ::   - like other daemons 
 do)


So this should make it listen for all IPv4 and IPv6:

BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::

I heard that this might caused problems with Linux kernels?



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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi,

 So this should make it listen for all IPv4 and IPv6:
 
 BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::

on Solaris thats certainly true

 I heard that this might caused problems with Linux kernels?

BindAddress 0.0.0.0
BindAddress ipv6:::


that works on the few Linux boxes that I've tested


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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
On 06/09/2011 01:56 PM, Dyonisius Visser wrote:
 On 09/06/2011 12:48, Alan Buxey wrote:
 Hi,

 Could it be the same as other apps, '::' ?


 I have now configured the hard coded addresses as a work aroudn.

 goodies/ipv6.cfg

 BindAddress ipv6:::

 (this is basically saying, use ipv6:  and bind to ::   - like other daemons 
 do)
 
 
 So this should make it listen for all IPv4 and IPv6:
 
 BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::

Try BindAddress ipv6:::

At least on my Linux box, kernel 2.6.34, binding to :: covers both IPv4
and IPv6. If I specify both, IPv6 binding fails apparently because it
tries to bind IPv4 again and since that's not possible anymore, it will
not bind IPv6 either.

 I heard that this might caused problems with Linux kernels?

I do not know about problems, but if I remember correctly there has been
confusion about one socket serving both protocols.

Just noticed Alan's message, too:

BindAddress 0.0.0.0
BindAddress ipv6:::

is the same as
BindAddress ipv6:::

If these are reversed:
BindAddress ipv6:::
BindAddress 0.0.0.0

the net effect is the same as:
BindAddress 0.0.0.0

In other words, BindAddress should be specified only once with all
addresses as a parameter value.

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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi,

  BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::

its horribly broken on Linux isnt it?  on Solaris this works fine in this
incantation.

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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
On 06/09/2011 03:03 PM, Alan Buxey wrote:

 BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::
 
 its horribly broken on Linux isnt it?  on Solaris this works fine in this
 incantation.

Heh, I guess it can be said its broken, or this is just one posibility
to do it.

For those who are interested, see for example

http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man4/inet6.4.html

and search for Interaction between IPv4/v6 sockets

There's also the mention about IPv4 mapped addresses, which is another
nice thing about IPv6 and IPv4 interaction.

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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Dyonisius Visser
Well, I installed a second instance on a dual stack host, and I tested
various combinations:



BindAddress 192.87.30.31,ipv6:2001:610:148:dead::31
I.e. hardcoded addresses - this works, both IPv4 and IPv6 clients work

BindAddress ipv6:::
   IPv4 blocked (NOTICE: Request from unknown client 192.87.30.32: ignored)

BindAddress 0.0.0.0
  This is the default. IPv4 clients work. IPv6 clients DO NOT work,
and worse, nothing is logged by radiator, no request from unknown
client 2001:610:blah:blah

BindAddress ipv6:::,0.0.0.0
  Startup gives some errors, and only IPv6 works:
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
'/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
'/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
Address already in use
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
Address already in use
Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: NOTICE: Server started: Radiator 4.8 on radius
Thu Jun  9 16:25:55 2011: NOTICE: Request from unknown client
145.100.98.42: ignored

BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::
  Also some errors, only IPv4 works, and also nothing logged when an
IPv6 client connects:
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
'/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
'/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
Address already in use
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
Address already in use
Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: NOTICE: Server started: Radiator 4.8 on radius


So the only way I can radiator to accept requests from both protocols,
is to hardcode the interface addresses.

Would it be possible to have radiator listen to 4+6 without hard coding?

I think that option (whatever it looks like) should be the default.

If possible, can the behavior of the current default ('BindAddress
0.0.0.0') be changed so that it actually logs ignored incoming
requests?
I've spend quite some time figuring out what is going on, and only
tcpdump revealed that requests are actually reaching my box.

Thanks :-)

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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Alan Buxey
hi,

I can confirm exactly the same behaviour on Linux boxes here. hardcoded
is the only way to have both working.  Solaris can have both on single line
and it works. a nice patch for 4.8 to arrive?  :-)

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Re: [RADIATOR] BindAddress question

2011-06-09 Thread Heikki Vatiainen
On 06/09/2011 05:37 PM, Dyonisius Visser wrote:
 Well, I installed a second instance on a dual stack host, and I tested
 various combinations:

Thanks for the summary.

 BindAddress 192.87.30.31,ipv6:2001:610:148:dead::31
 I.e. hardcoded addresses - this works, both IPv4 and IPv6 clients work
 
 BindAddress ipv6:::
IPv4 blocked (NOTICE: Request from unknown client 192.87.30.32: ignored)

This should work if you specify your client like this:

Client ipv6::::192.87.30.32

Since the request arrived over IPv4 but was delivered to the application
by IPv6 wildcard socket, the IPv4 address is presented as an IPv6
address. See

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4291#section-2.5.5

section 2.5.5.2. IPv4-Mapped IPv6 Address. The purpose of this mapping
is to let the application to know was the message received over IPv6 or
IPv4 since the socket can handle both protocols.


 BindAddress 0.0.0.0
   This is the default. IPv4 clients work. IPv6 clients DO NOT work,
 and worse, nothing is logged by radiator, no request from unknown
 client 2001:610:blah:blah
 
 BindAddress ipv6:::,0.0.0.0
   Startup gives some errors, and only IPv6 works:
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
 '/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
 '/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:54 2011: NOTICE: Server started: Radiator 4.8 on radius
 Thu Jun  9 16:25:55 2011: NOTICE: Request from unknown client
 145.100.98.42: ignored
 
 BindAddress 0.0.0.0,ipv6:::
   Also some errors, only IPv4 works, and also nothing logged when an
 IPv6 client connects:
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Finished reading configuration file
 '/etc/radiator/radius.cfg'
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Reading dictionary file
 '/etc/radiator/db/dictionary'
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port 0.0.0.0:1812
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port 0.0.0.0:1813
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating authentication port ipv61812
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind authentication socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: DEBUG: Creating accounting port ipv61813
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: ERR: Could not bind accounting socket:
 Address already in use
 Thu Jun  9 16:27:42 2011: NOTICE: Server started: Radiator 4.8 on radius
 
 
 So the only way I can radiator to accept requests from both protocols,
 is to hardcode the interface addresses.
 
 Would it be possible to have radiator listen to 4+6 without hard coding?
 
 I think that option (whatever it looks like) should be the default.
 
 If possible, can the behavior of the current default ('BindAddress
 0.0.0.0') be changed so that it actually logs ignored incoming
 requests?
 I've spend quite some time figuring out what is going on, and only
 tcpdump revealed that requests are actually reaching my box.
 
 Thanks :-)
 


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Re: (RADIATOR) BindAddress question

2000-08-03 Thread Hugh Irvine


Hello Jason -

On Fri, 04 Aug 2000, Jason J. Horton wrote:
 Is it possible to bind to more than one IP address per installation?
 

No - but it is possible to run multiple copies of Radiator, each on a different
IP address and/or port number.

hth

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