Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Pre-Sales Question about streaming
just to clarify, the Roku won't play DRM'd files either... thats why i have to play them using ORBdoes Squeezebox support orb? -- mearsfan07 mearsfan07's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32672 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67624 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
Mnyb;455850 Wrote: > In the future we will hopefully don't suffer these low bit-rates > streams, thats about the only thing thats makes we want FM at home, AM > is dead in sweden nobody uses it. > > The usability limit for me is 128kps mp3 or 96kbps WMA Completely agree. For *me* if I wanted AM/FM outside of the car I have 6 other devices throughout my home to choose from, and I never use any of them. The Internet Radio and Music Service streams are my music alternatives to the usual crap played on FM that I specifically avoid with my SB players. That's why, for me, cluttering the hardware and menu's and buttons to receive the very source I'm trying to avoid with these players just seems pointless. But then I can see where others would want OTA broadcast capabilities. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Display camera picture on the SB Radio?
dcontis;456163 Wrote: > I was wondering if someone had any idea if the SB Radio (or the SB > Touch) > will be able to display camera feed, for example from the Logitech > Video security system.> > > > > > > Someone else on this forum quoted a Logitech tech or sales person, > > saying that such a thing is theoretically possible. > > > > That said, whether such a thing will happen... > > > > The Logitech Wilife Video Security System is based on Homeplugs > > (Powerline). The Touch has a USB port, so you could connect a USB > > Homeplug adapter to that. The Touch will need to supprt the USB Homeplug > > adapter though, using a driver. Then it would also need to be able to > > pull the videostream from the Wilife cameras. > > > > The Wilife system is a closed source system, so if this is going to > > happen it will have to be done by Logitech. Unless they publish the > > specs etc. (which would be really nice). -- BastiaanR Squeezebox Controller (fw r6038) + Squeezebox Receiver (fw 62) + 1TB fileserver, Windows XP SP3, running SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 Download SC 7.3.4 from here: http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.3 BastiaanR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67629 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Pre-Sales Question about streaming
If I am not mistaken, the Roku unit will run off of SC. So just download the current version from the wesite and try out SC with your Roku. It will not play DRM files but you could see if you like the SC interface. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67624 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Pre-Sales Question about streaming
Well to the SB forums. At this time the SB system does not support playback of any type of DRM'd music. Also, it uses SqueezeCenter (aka Squeezebox Server) software to stream music to the players, not Windows Media Connect. The protocols are completely different, so you could not stream to a Squeezebox using Windows Media Connect. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67624 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] What is the alarm like?
p88l;456158 Wrote: > @Justme: A bit of a pity the radio doesn't have the server built in like > the Touch > > How do you know this? It wouldn't suprise me if the Radio runs > SqueezeOS (Jive) just like the Duet Controller, which gives some > possibilities... > > I do not know what you exactly mean by "Server", also cannot find any > info on the Touch running as server. > > Maybe someone from Logitech can explain? Welcome to the forums. As for SB Touch running as the server, look at many of the posts -- especially in the Touch forum -- since the new products were announced last week. SB Touch runs a stripped-down version of SqueezeCenter, which has been called "TinySC" during the development period, although eventually it will have some other name. The beta versions of SB Radio do not run "TinySC", and there would be little gain from doing so because the SB Radio has no provision for connected storage. The SB Touch, on the other hand, has a USB port to support external USB drives or flash drives, as well as an SD slot. The Touch is capable of making the music on the USB port or SD slot available to other SB players on via its on-board server software. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67500 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Display camera picture on the SB Radio?
I was wondering if someone had any idea if the SB Radio (or the SB Touch) will be able to display camera feed, for example from the Logitech Video security system. I am assuming quite a few people will have a SB Radio / Touch in their bedroom. In case of a suspect noise (inside or outside) it would be great to be able to visualize a video feed without having to navigate to a computer. Just a though.. -- dcontis dcontis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67629 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] What is the alarm like?
@Justme: A bit of a pity the radio doesn't have the server built in like the Touch How do you know this? It wouldn't suprise me if the Radio runs SqueezeOS (Jive) just like the Duet Controller, which gives some possibilities... I do not know what you exactly mean by "Server", also cannot find any info on the Touch running as server. Maybe someone from Logitech can explain? -- p88l p88l's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32674 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67500 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Pre-Sales Question about streaming
Hello all, new forum member here, and have a few questions... I'm really intersted in the newly announced Squeezebox Radio, but before I pre-ordered it, i'd like to know if it can do certain things.. In order to stream music from my computer, do I need to run any seperate software on my computer? Right now I have a Roku Soundbridge Radio, and it is compatible with the Windows Media Connect technology, which means if Windows Media Player(for Vista 64bit) "sees" the audio, and I've configured WMP to share it with the device, then the Roku will play it. I'll see my computers name on the display, and I can connect to it. In order to play DRM'd ZunePass songs I also have Orb(from orb.com) software running on my PC and have it pointed to my ZunePass folder to share. In addition to being able to stream the songs at mycast.orb.com I can connect to the orb "server" and play my DRM'd songs on my Roku. Can anyone tell me if Squeezebox's support this? I tried searching through the forums for this, but can't seem to find anything... thanks.. Stephen -- mearsfan07 mearsfan07's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32672 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67624 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
dave77;456100 Wrote: > http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/27111/210723.aspx > > Less than 6 years actually! I was surprised when I read it If you only read the opening couple of posts on the B&O forum and decided that t all FM will be switched off in the UK by then ... then you would be correct to be surprised. I have read the full report - which is why I referred to national radio. Look at section 3b to understand why. The erratum on the page linked to below refers to what I sent them on the day of its publication (I don't know if I was the first to point it out - but I suspect I was). http://www.culture.gov.uk/what_we_do/broadcasting/6216.aspx Even then .. the figures (50% digital take-up) are highly aspirational. -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
andynormancx wrote: > FM is not going to be turned off by 2015, the 2015 date was just an > aspiration. There is no point in arguing about when its going to happen. It is going to happen. The die is cast, radio is dead. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
dave77;456100 Wrote: > http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/27111/210723.aspx > > Less than 6 years actually! I was surprised when I read it FM is not going to be turned off by 2015, the 2015 date was just an aspiration. If you read elsewhere the aim is to only turn off FM when DAB matches the current FM geographic coverage, which is highly unlikely to happen by 2015. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
Paul Webster;456072 Wrote: > I'm pretty sure that FM will not be phased out in UK in less than 10 > years. This is a messy subject, and I heard a couple of pieces about it on Radio 4 recently. The Register seems to have a pretty good write up about it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/19/carter_radio_dumb_media/ Personally i would prefer to see them introducing some kind of wimax in the space instead for true internet radio across the country. But that is a far off dream. -- funkstar my collection: *1*x squeezebox radio *1*x squeezebox touch *1*x squeezebox boom *2*x controller, *1*x receiver *2*x sb3 (sliver/black), *1*x sb2 wired (silver) *1*x sb (black), *1*x slimp3 (with rear shield) interested in any others if you have them! funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
Paul Webster;456072 Wrote: > I'm pretty sure that FM will not be phased out in UK in less than 10 > years. > The proposal has triggers based on uptake of "digital" listening - and > talks about turning of national FM stations if the criteria is reached. > But FM would continue and reallocated for more local stations. > I think that there is more of a chance of DAB being turned off in UK > within 10 years ... and being replaced by DAB+ ... rendering obselete > the majority existing bought DAB radios. Very modern DAB sets support > DAB+ (at least via firmware upgrade). http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/27111/210723.aspx Less than 6 years actually! I was surprised when I read it -- dave77 dave77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
dave77;456058 Wrote: > A DAB tuner would be good, I don't know about the rest of the world but > FM will be phased out in the UK in less than 10 years. That must be an UK thing, but DAB has unusual presence in the UK must be horrific circumstances for "normal" FM . SR tried with DAB for a very long time, it's now laughing stock and hailed as a total fiasco and wasted tax money. DAB is even more dead than FM ;) -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
dave77;456058 Wrote: > A DAB tuner would be good, I don't know about the rest of the world but > FM will be phased out in the UK in less than 10 years. I'm pretty sure that FM will not be phased out in UK in less than 10 years. The proposal has triggers based on uptake of "digital" listening - and talks about turning of national FM stations if the criteria is reached. But FM would continue and reallocated for more local stations. I think that there is more of a chance of DAB being turned off in UK within 10 years ... and being replaced by DAB+ ... rendering obselete the majority existing bought DAB radios. Very modern DAB sets support DAB+ (at least via firmware upgrade). -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
A DAB tuner would be good, I don't know about the rest of the world but FM will be phased out in the UK. -- dave77 dave77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] What is the alarm like?
Does anyone know whether the alarm has a backup function in case the main source is unavailable? For example, if the alarm is set to play a radio station, but ADSL connection is lost, will the Radio default to making some other sound? Or will it just sit there silently displaying a rebuffering or "can't resolve ip address" message while the user snoozes on..? Peter -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67500 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Website copy
Thank you Michael. Bob -- morris_minor Living Room: Transporter Study: Receiver Kitchen: Boom Son's Bedroom: Classic iPeng on an iPhone, 2 x Controllers Server: TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3i SC 7.2.1 - 23630 - - - - http://www.last.fm/user/morris_minor_1 morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67598 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Website copy
> The Radio is mono . . . Thanks for the heads up! I've forwarded your report. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Website copy
Has anyone else spotted the mistake in this para from the products overview page: > Don't own a stereo? > > If you don't have a stereo system or powered speakers, or if you'd like > to bring your music to a room without a stereo, we recommend Squeezebox > Radio or Squeezebox Boom. These all-in-one designed players incorporate > high-fidelity stereo speakers and simple setup. The Radio is mono . . . -- morris_minor Living Room: Transporter Study: Receiver Kitchen: Boom Son's Bedroom: Classic iPeng on an iPhone, 2 x Controllers Server: TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3i SC 7.2.1 - 23630 - - - - http://www.last.fm/user/morris_minor_1 morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67598 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] What is the alarm like?
Sounds good. Thanks for this tips. A bit of a pity the radio doesn't have the server built in like the Touch, but it does look like a good option for the bedside table. -- Justme Justme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67500 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
Mark Miksis;455212 Wrote: > Why? Do you have a local FM station that is not available via the > Internet Radio menu? They are. But don't work becasue it's mms / rtsp. Plus, FM will work when you don't have internet or squeezeNetwork is down (that can happen). So a good FM reception would totally be a selling point to me. -- EowynCarter EowynCarter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
Since July good news for every BBC fan then. I like BBC they produce good TV shows too. I general I think we will have FM for another 20 years before networks is omnipresent and reliable everywhere. The population density in some parts of the country is such that infrastructure is never commercially viable , it has to sponsored by the government. But one never knows technology is getting cheaper all the time cell towers is much cheaper than land lines for example. -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Where is the broadcast FM?
Mnyb;455850 Wrote: > The swedish public radio networks does a good job of sending every > channel in 96k wma a hint to BBC , who was a role model for SR (Sveriges > Radio) in the 70's apparently they are lagging behind with horrible real > audio broadcast's ugh. > If listening in UK, BBC streams for national stations (as opposed to On Demand) are available at 128k WMA (192 for Radio 3). Has been since early July - following a period of experimentation with a variety of bit-rates. BBC run at a lower bit-rate when listeners connect from abroad. It looks like the RealAudio is going to be switched off to be replaced by WMA. BBC local radio is still being worked on. Of course, with higher bitrates generally come higher quality and higher bandwidth consumption. People with capped bandwidth limits from their ISP need to carefully evaluate. Just an hour a day for a month at 128kbps is around 1.7GB. Imagine how much bandwidth is used by someone who listens to a lot of radio. Sure - they could pay more for a higher limit or uncapped service - or they could use FM. Given Logitech's expertise in providing multi-function devices, including with FM then I would have thought that including FM in the Squeezebox range wouldn't be such a big thing to do - even if only as a hardware switch (i.e. not necessarily implementing in software). > Mobile internet is a very far cry from being useable in this context > yet. I'm looking forward to the day when streaming from my server to the > car is viable. Increased bit-rates for stations plus heavier bandwidth caps on mobile phones (some contracts specifically prohibit streaming) make mobile use very hit-and-miss. So broadcasters probably need to persist with having different bit-rates so that the listener can choose the most appropriate. Take a look at Moodio ( http://www.moodio.fm ) for a transcoding service aimed at mobile phone users. I still have not worked out how they are going to pay for their streaming costs - but for now at least - it is free. -- Paul Webster Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67502 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Stream personal broadcast point?
Do not use the mms protocol - it is not supported by the players - use http as the transport protocol. As an alternative you can probably use VLC to create a MP3 http stream. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67584 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
