Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-10-05 Thread Sike

When the Duet was announced it took about 6 months for it to become
availible over here in Switzerland

There is probably a container somewhere on a ship moving slowly towards
Europe or the US... Unless it has been captured by pirates that is...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-10-05 Thread bluegaspode

vw195;467369 Wrote: 
> The logitech site has red ones in stock if you are interested. Just the
> logitech site. 
And only in US it seems, in germany I still even can't find the red
ones.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread JJZolx

radish;467238 Wrote: 
> At one point during testing we found that the Radio was reporting SNR
> whilst others were reporting strength as a % (even though the radio was
> labelling it %, it wasn't). Might still be the case, which would explain
> the lower numbers.

Probably not, but some conversion of SNR to percentage needs to take
place and I imagine the scale is somewhat arbitrary.

A better place to gauge the relative strengths of the two signals might
be on the wifi access point, if it displays such things.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-10-05 Thread vw195

jay_cee_in_da_house;467335 Wrote: 
> Still showing pre-order at both Logitech.com and Amazon.com. The wait is
> killin me!

The logitech site has red ones in stock if you are interested. Just the
logitech site.  The logitech squeezebox site shows preorder.  I dont
understand why they have two different storefronts with the logical one
still showing preorder.  Amazon was supposed to get them launch day so I
ALSO want to know where they went to?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-10-05 Thread SteveEast

jay_cee_in_da_house;467335 Wrote: 
> Still showing pre-order at both Logitech.com and Amazon.com. The wait is
> killin me!

Yeah, just where DID these things end up?

Steve.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-10-05 Thread gfuchs

Maybe we could get Michael Moore to do an investigative report on where
the SB Radios are?
He could string crime scene tape around the SB office. Stand outside
with a bull horn demanding to know where they are?
Maybe even a special guest appearance by Rep.Joe Wilson.
He could stand there shouting "You Lie!" to everything said.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Ship date?

2009-10-05 Thread jay_cee_in_da_house

Still showing pre-order at both Logitech.com and Amazon.com. The wait is
killin me!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread toby10

I think Radio's WiFi chipset reports signal % little differently than
Boom's chipset.  
At the same location my Boom = 84% while my Radio = 68%


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread radish

At one point during testing we found that the Radio was reporting SNR
whilst others were reporting strength as a % (even though the radio was
labelling it %, it wasn't). Might still be the case, which would explain
the lower numbers.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Engadget Photos of Squeezebox Radio

2009-10-05 Thread eap

Not very focused unfortunately:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/02/logitech-squeezebox-radio-unboxing/

Will be interesting to read the review.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread Phil Leigh

SteveEast;467197 Wrote: 
> Better...
> 
> Steve.

Indeed! - slightly surprising but not a real issue I guess...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread SteveEast

Better...

Steve.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread Phil Leigh

SteveEast;467191 Wrote: 
> Does re-orienting the Radio make any difference? Does taking the Boom
> away make any difference?
> 
> Steve.

I'll try...
hmmm - moving the radio 2 feet from the Boom makes the signal leap to
50%!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread SteveEast

Does re-orienting the Radio make any difference? Does taking the Boom
away make any difference?

Steve.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Radio wi-fi reception?

2009-10-05 Thread Phil Leigh

I have my Radio next to my Boom at the moment - I mean their cases are
virtually touching.

Boom reads 68% wi-fi strength, Radio is 28% (PB1 unit)
Seems to work fine though - no stuttering. I'm hitting it with a 24/192
file (via SOX) at the moment.
Odd.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Sync is very slightly off.

2009-10-05 Thread Ikabob

I think it is going to be fine. Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Playing radio without local server

2009-10-05 Thread gweempose

toby10;466979 Wrote: 
> 
> 
> This all goes back to the earlier discussions in the Beta forums where
> switching servers and knowing which server one is currently connected
> too should be much simpler and much more intuitive.It does sound a little 
> confusing for the average Joe. Hopefully, this
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Sync is very slightly off.

2009-10-05 Thread Matt Wise

Glad its working for you... I don't by any means think that this is a
general issue with sync -- I suspect that there is some "state" that a
Squeezeplay-based player can get into that suddenly causes problems.
Keep testing though!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Sync is very slightly off.

2009-10-05 Thread Phil Leigh

yesterday I had a wireless boom+radio+wired Touch all synced and playing
flac's as mp3 @320 and iPlayer.

The Radio and Boom were literally sitting next to each other and the
sync was rock solid - less than 20ms of difference I'd say - you
couldn't heard that slight ADT effect you get if things are a bit off.

I bet that idea of using 2 radios (or Booms!) for wide stereo would
work...
Very impressive.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Sync is very slightly off.

2009-10-05 Thread SteveEast

Ikabob;466768 Wrote: 
> When I used it last all was fine. I will ex-periment with different
> stations and check it out. As of not though it syncs ok. Maybe since the
> baby boom was new it had to adjust or equilibrate.   

No burn-in on this gear :)

Steve.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My new Squeezebox Radio is not listed on SBS?

2009-10-05 Thread toby10

mherger;467008 Wrote: 
> > Yeah, can't help you there.  :(
> 
> You can: please file a bug report ;-)

True.  :)

But having no experience myself with SBC I'm not sure I'm the one to
properly describe and file such a bug.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My new Squeezebox Radio is not listed on SBS?

2009-10-05 Thread Michael Herger
> Yeah, can't help you there.  :(

You can: please file a bug report ;-)
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My new Squeezebox Radio is not listed on SBS?

2009-10-05 Thread toby10

eap;466991 Wrote: 
> Right - but the whole point of the duet is remote control.  I rarely use
> the web UI.  I want to do everything from the controller.

Yeah, can't help you there.  :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My new Squeezebox Radio is not listed on SBS?

2009-10-05 Thread toby10

Creating Folders and Sub-Folders within Favorites
-   Open SC/SBS server web UI
-   Click Favorites
>•scroll to bottom of Favorites, if you see “New
Folder” as an option you are correctly in EDIT mode, skip to step
“EDIT MODE” below 
>•if you do NOT see “New Folder” as an option,
continue from this point
-   Click on the text of any song or station or folder within Favorites
-   Look in upper left corner, you should see a menu structure layout
like:  Home > Favorites > *song*
-   Click on Favorites from above menu structure
-   You should now be in EDIT mode and you should see “New
Folder” as an option


EDIT MODE
- Click on New Folder, name the folder, click Save
-   Create Folders as needed
-   From inside a Folder you can create a Sub-Folder by again clicking
“New Folder”
-   You can Drag & Drop saved Favorites into the Folder of your choice
-   You can rearrange the order of Favorites and Folders


Why the funky way to get into Edit Mode (over drill into menu items
then back out)?  Dunno for sure, but my guess is to help prevent
accidental editing and deletions while working in SC/SBS web UI.  Or,
maybe there is a more intuitive way to get into Edit Mode and I’m
not doing it right.     I can only share how *I* do it. 
Personally I think there should be an EDIT button on the main web UI
screen to turn on and off this function.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My new Squeezebox Radio is not listed on SBS?

2009-10-05 Thread eap

toby10;466984 Wrote: 
> Yes, this is why I suggested to do so on SC/SBS, the web UI, not on your
> Controller.   :)

Right - but the whole point of the duet is remote control.  I rarely
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My new Squeezebox Radio is not listed on SBS?

2009-10-05 Thread toby10

eap;466677 Wrote: 
> I see no way to save a playing last.fm "station" as a favorite using the
> duet controller.  There is no save to favorite option when you press the
> + button when playing a genre.

Yes, this is why I suggested to do so on SC/SBS, the web UI, not on
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Playing radio without local server

2009-10-05 Thread toby10

Philip Meyer;466867...I have no idea what MySqueezebox.com server(s) I had 
the device connected to.  After all, the players don't report what music source 
it's connected to.

There's a good chance I was connected to Test SqueezeNetwork (as in I may have 
had to authenticate with the server in order to get through setup), but I've 
not really tried using it to play back radio...[/QUOTE Wrote: 
> 
> 
> I'd suggest going to BOTH of your MySB accounts online, see if Radio is
> showing up.
> There are a number of reports of Radio & Touch connecting to multiple
> accounts, myself included.   :)
> 
> General comment:
> This all goes back to the earlier discussions in the Beta forums where
> switching servers and knowing which server one is currently connected
> too should be much simpler and much more intuitive.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Playing radio without local server

2009-10-05 Thread Phil Meyer
>The correct action is that "if local server is unavailable/notresponding/etc,
>offer MySB as an option".
>
I thought the idea was that the music source was meant to me transparent to the 
user.

In a normal situation, I thought that the Radio should look like it is 
connected to both local server and MySqueezebox.com.  So if there's no local 
server, it just uses the MySqueezebox.com connection instead.

>In this case it would be helpful to go to the Diagnostics page (settings ->
>advanced ->diagnostics) and see whether it can even connect to the
>internet. Perhaps something happened to the network stack that prevented
>it from getting to MySB.com.
>
I turned Baby on and went to diagnostics page.  UI is really slow - somethings 
not right with it.

Diagnostics page showed MySqueezebox.com = No DNS.

>One thing to clarify -- were you at any point using this Baby boom
>with the "Test SqueezeNetwork?" If so, you need to do a factory reset on
>the Baby first in order for it to create a proper connection to the
>production SN racks. This hit me the other day and confused the heck out
>of me as well.
>
I have no idea what MySqueezebox.com server(s) I had the device connected to.  
After all, the players don't report what music source it's connected to.

There's a good chance I was connected to Test SqueezeNetwork (as in I may have 
had to authenticate with the server in order to get through setup), but I've 
not really tried using it to play back radio.

Doing a factory reset now.
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