Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm Reliability -- Obvious Modification

2010-04-15 Thread erland

peterdgreenway;531607 Wrote: 
 
 HERE IS THE SUGGESTION TO THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM
 
 All you need to do is to allow the user to save short alarm tones
 within the Squeezebox Radio and select them when setting the alarm
 tine.  This would mean that the Squeezebox Radio would not necessarily
 need a network connection to play your selected alarm.
 
 And for goodness sake, why isnt there a simple beep-beep-beep alarm
 tone ? 
 
Is someone that have some development skills want to go this route this
should be a fairly simple third party applet.

You know, it's never to late to start learning...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] When browsing for music the radio starts from the top each time?

2010-04-15 Thread erland

I suspect it stores the menu state in memory and when you turn off the
device the memory is cleared. The reason it works for SB3 and the older
devices is probably because they are slim devices which keeps their
state on the server so it doesn't matter if the player is turned off.

If you find it annoying you can check if there is a bug for it at
http://bugs.slimdevices.com and register one if there isn't one
already.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] is it possible for force a periodic reboot?

2010-04-15 Thread simsboard

erland;535256 Wrote: 
 It would be better if the alarm handling were solved so it worked
 correctly. I think there are a number of bug reports related to alarm
 handling which Logitech probably are working on to solve as soon as
 possible.
 

I fully agree with you = I was just thinking of a workaround till the
issue is solved by logitech!

and thanks for the hint to configure the alarm directly on the radio =
so far I did it most of the time via the web-interface as its a little
bit more userfriendly!

regards!
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is quite buggy

2010-04-15 Thread VincentNguye

Wifi router is fine. It's an SFR box, and it's working flawlessly (my
laptop connected through VPN to my corporate network is always
connedcted, and so are my other systems - Window Home Server and MCE
unit).

I use both mysqueezebox.com and local server (Windows Home Server is
where all my music is stored). My WHS has a fixed IP adress, but not
the SB Radio, will try that, although I do have a few spare CPL plug
anyway.

So technically I know the rest of my infrastructure is up and running
perfectly. It's just this damn SB Radio which is causing me problem.
Could be a compatibility issue with my wifi access point (the SFR box),
I have seen that in the past.

Note: the squeezebox server on my WHS setup does not start
automatically, despite the service being set to automatic: it reverts
back to manual at every system reboot. Painful, as I have to log in to
the WHS and start it manually. Apparently a known problem to some, with
no solution yet.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm fade-in not working if connection has dropped before.

2010-04-15 Thread Loom

Hi Bluegaspode.

here are the logs.

the first one did play my radio station for 2 seconds without fading,
then stops for 2 seconds and finally playing the upbeat riff.

The second one did just play the station.

Both times there was no fade at all, even if set in the radio or on
mysqueezebox.com


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is quite buggy

2010-04-15 Thread Tartifless

Hello,
I have quite the same configuration as you have:
- Music is on my WHS (HP Mediasmart server) that is connected via CPL
to my router
- Router is a Dartybox
- One SB radio connected by wi-fi, one by ethernet to the router (no
CPL use here)
- One SB Duet connected by ethernet too

For everything to work properly I had to open port 9000 (used by SBS)
in my router and allocate it the IP adress of the WHS server.
I also had to change the twonkymedia port from 9000 to 9100 in order
not to interfere with SBS (after doing that I restarted the
twonkyserver service in order to take the changes into account).

I do not have the startup problem you mention, the SBS server service
starts automatically with the server, to do that I had to:
- install SBS through the WHS console (I use SBS 7.5.1)
- Remote connect to the server and go to administrative tools -
services, then change the Squeezebox server service status to start
automatically, then restart the service once

I would recommend for the RFM wake-up to put RFM radio in your
favorites and to set-up the alarm using the favorite and not the last
playlist used.

Is there some kind of DHCP allocation time limitation in the SFR box
configuration ?

Regards,
Benoit


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] batteries out of stock ...

2010-04-15 Thread Pipedream

When is the battery going to be available in UK?  It states out of stock
on the website :(


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.5.0 bugs

2010-04-15 Thread eap

Joerchner;532711 Wrote: 
 May be we could start a list of bugs in Squeezebox Radio Software 7.5.0
 r8673? Let's hope that Logitech's developer have an eye on this!!!
 
 - Problems with connection to msb (see several threads)
 - Missing the option to ADD streams to favorites (not possible with
 More-Button). Just no add to function...??? Only possible via
 msb.com?
 - How to choose the option that the sb radio is automatically playing
 last stream after switching on (possible with connecting to sb-server,
 but not with msb???)
 - German translation still left a few English phrases (not a real
 problem)
 
 Please add further bugs!

Fade-in for alarm now is unreliable.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] dropping connection after firmware update

2010-04-15 Thread toby10

toby10;535130 Wrote: 
 My Radio has been streaming from MySB for 8+ hours without issue.
 I'm on the US VA server though, EU servers might be a different story.

Update:  approaching 24 hours of non stop Radio play from MySB.com  
:)

Looking in Radio  Settings  Advanced  Diagnostics
I find the following items to be odd...
IP Subnet = nil
IP Gateway = nil
MySB.com Ping = Can't Ping
MySB.com Registration = *blank*

Are these expected results (I know pretty much nil about networks so
maybe these results are expected).
Seems odd it would be streaming fine but not be able to ping nor
recognize my MySB.com registration.

All other diagnostic results seems normal, as far as I can tell.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.5.0 bugs

2010-04-15 Thread Ikabob

Joerchner;532711 Wrote: 
 May be we could start a list of bugs in Squeezebox Radio Software 7.5.0
 r8673? Let's hope that Logitech's developer have an eye on this!!!
 
 - Problems with connection to msb (see several threads)
 - Missing the option to ADD streams to favorites (not possible with
 More-Button). Just no add to function...??? Only possible via
 msb.com?
 - How to choose the option that the sb radio is automatically playing
 last stream after switching on (possible with connecting to sb-server,
 but not with msb???)
 - German translation still left a few English phrases (not a real
 problem)
 
 Please add further bugs!



I downloaded the latest daily 7.5.1 r and the add to favorites
issue was corrected very nicely. However, the update had other
stability problems so I went back to 7.5.0. I am certain that 7.5 will
be tweaked promptly and will be better than we could imagine. 

I believe that Logitech has a team of ITs that are knowledgeable and
dedicated to make it right. Some are monitoring these forums to help us
personally.  I am extreamly impressed with this Squeezebox stuff!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please; Stop forcing/pushing the update...Please

2010-04-15 Thread BillLogi

BigPotato;532460 Wrote: 
 I think it is perfectly reasonable to expect that if you connect your
 device to Logitech's service that it will require you to update to the
 latest firmware.  Anything else would make it much more difficult for
 the service to move forward.
 
 On the other hand it is also completely reasonable for you to be able
 to run your own server and never update anything ever again.  However,
 you must be willing to accept that some things may stop working if the
 external environment changes (OS version, online services change
 protocols, etc).
 
 It's a matter of picking your poison.  Personally I've never run into
 serious problems updating the firmware or server software, and I've
 been running this stuff since the SB1 was introduced.

I couldn't stand the stupid update messages so I gave in, reluctantly.
Updated all my SB's. 
And now, the coolest feature is that the my Radios turn themselves off
and go to the Clock Display after an hour or so. I'm so glad I updated.
Is this moving forward? I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect my
Radio's to at least stay on until I, think about turning them off. This
is totally absurd.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] dropping connection after firmware update

2010-04-15 Thread BillLogi

Did the update to 7.5 on my two Radio's and now I get the disconnect and
clock display after an hour or so. Didn't happen with 7.4.2.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] When browsing for music the radio starts from the top each time?

2010-04-15 Thread getprogs

Good reasoning, could very well be the correct explanation. Since it is
suppose to connect to MSB.com (or at least based on the no of posts
here re inaccessible servers it seems like that is what it is used for)
no point in storing the state on a local server...

To bad - will probably have to live with only listening to artists
starting with A (yes, I am the lazy type... ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] dropping connection after firmware update

2010-04-15 Thread Tony T

BillLogi;535384 Wrote: 
 Did the update to 7.5 on my two Radio's and now I get the disconnect and
 clock display after an hour or so. Didn't happen with 7.4.2.

Please add your comment to bug 16046 : http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ 

Tony

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please; Stop forcing/pushing the update...Please

2010-04-15 Thread erland

BillLogi;535379 Wrote: 
 I couldn't stand the stupid update messages so I gave in, reluctantly.
 Updated all my SB's. 
 And now, the coolest feature is that the my Radios turn themselves off
 and go to the Clock Display after an hour or so. I'm so glad I updated.
 Is this moving forward? I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect my
 Radio's to at least stay on until I, think about turning them off. This
 is totally absurd.

Are you running on battery ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm fade-in not working if connection has dropped before.

2010-04-15 Thread bluegaspode

The first error is due to a network error


Code:


  Apr 15 11:26:04 squeezeplay: WARN   net.thread - NetworkThread.lua:146 
network thread timeout for Task(SocketHttp {mysqueezebox.com_Request}(R))
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay: ERROR  net.http - SocketHttp.lua:494 SocketHttp 
{mysqueezebox.com_Request}:t_rcvHeaders.pump:inactivity timeout
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay: stack traceback:
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay:  /usr/share/jive/jive/net/SocketHttp.lua:494: in 
function 'pump'
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay:  /usr/share/jive/jive/net/SocketTcp.lua:192: in 
function 'readPump'
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay:  /usr/share/jive/jive/net/Socket.lua:161: in 
function /usr/share/jive/jive/net/Socket.lua:159
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay: INFO   net.comet - Comet.lua:820 Comet 
{mysqueezebox.com}: _getRequestSink error: inactivity timeout
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay: INFO   net.comet - Comet.lua:997 Comet 
{mysqueezebox.com}: handleAdvice state=CONNECTED
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay: INFO   squeezebox.server - SlimServer.lua:714 
disconnected mysqueezebox.com idleTimeoutTriggered: nil
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay: INFO   applet.AlarmSnooze - 
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:327 notify_serverDisconnected: SlimServer 
{mysqueezebox.com} is now disconnected
  Apr 15 11:26:05 squeezeplay: WARN   applet.AlarmSnooze - 
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:334 notify_serverDisconnected: SlimServer 
{mysqueezebox.com} - while server alarm in progress! state server triggering 
fallback alarm!
  



Why this is happening (mysqueezebox.com problem our your router or your
ISP) I don't know of course.

Can't find an error in the second log. I'm still on 7.4.2 so didn't
have time yet to try to reproduce the fading problem.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please; Stop forcing/pushing the update...Please

2010-04-15 Thread BillLogi

erland;535415 Wrote: 
 Are you running on battery ?

No, both are on wall wart power. A thought though, I listen to 1.FM
Classic Rock, if the stream suddenly goes down from them, would the
Radio power off due to inactivity or missing data. I have no sleep
timeout or screen saver set. It did it three times last
night,(1.FM)this AM I switched to 1010WINS and so far it's been ok.
This seems to be a longshot but you never know..
Thanks,
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[SlimDevices: Radio] 7.5 issues? You have to do this to resolve

2010-04-15 Thread GoCubs72

If you are having issues with 7.5 and the stream stops playing, please
take 2 min, sign up and vote here.  This was the first time I have done
so and have been some immediate responses from the (legacy) slimdevices
team.  This is the only visibility they have to the challenges.  The
email alias goes directly to their QA team - please do this since
issues will not be heard here:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16046

Bug: 16046


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please; Stop forcing/pushing the update...Please

2010-04-15 Thread BigPotato

BillLogi;535379 Wrote: 
 I couldn't stand the stupid update messages so I gave in, reluctantly.
 Updated all my SB's. 
 And now, the coolest feature is that the my Radios turn themselves off
 and go to the Clock Display after an hour or so. I'm so glad I updated.
 Is this moving forward? I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect my
 Radio's to at least stay on until I, think about turning them off. This
 is totally absurd.

I agree.  I think that it is reasonable for Logitech to be able to
update firmware if you are connecting to their service, but Logitech
has to uphold their end of the bargain.  If they are pushing updates
they have to have a solid QA process in place that detects these sorts
of problems well before they affect lots of customers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio $133.88 at Buy.com - anybody found cheaper?

2010-04-15 Thread Tony T

danull;535507 Wrote: 
 Saw the following on Slickdeals this morning:
 
 http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1976184p=29048444highlight=logitech#post29048444
 
 $133.88 on Buy.com:
 
 http://www.buy.com/prod/logitech-squeezebox-radio/q/loc/111/listingid/57300607/212543844.html?adid=17654
 
 Cheapest I've seen recently and cheaper than Amazon.
 
 I already have one and just got a touch...so having a hard time
 justifying a new Radio right now... ahhh, who am I kidding I will crack
 in a few hours.

Includes Free Shipping.  Best price I've seen.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio is quite buggy

2010-04-15 Thread pief

I have the feeling that the problem is coming from mysqueezebox.com
server :
each time my radio is down it has lost the connection to mysb.com.
Again this morning, the radio stopped at 7:23 (hopefully I wake up at
7) I tried to  ping 89.202.121.131 -that I found in the SBR diagnostic
window- with my laptop : no response. Now (7 pm), the ping is OK with
the laptop and the radio too. Those who are connected to sbs seem to
have much less issues.
I no longer try to check my wifi connection or my modem : the
connection always comes back itself (I guess when MYSB.com is back) 
This was happening from time to time with 7.4 realease, it's really
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio $133.88 at Buy.com - anybody found cheaper?

2010-04-15 Thread JWagner

danull;535507 Wrote: 
 Saw the following on Slickdeals this morning:
 
 http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1976184p=29048444highlight=logitech#post29048444
 
 $133.88 on Buy.com w/ free shipping:
 
 http://www.buy.com/prod/logitech-squeezebox-radio/q/loc/111/listingid/57300607/212543844.html?adid=17654
 
 Cheapest I've seen recently and cheaper than Amazon.
 
 I already have one and just got a touch...so having a hard time
 justifying a new Radio right now... ahhh, who am I kidding I will crack
 in a few hours.

Amazon's been lowering their price too. Either they're blowing them out
to get ready for a new version or they're not selling to well at the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio $133.88 at Buy.com - anybody found cheaper?

2010-04-15 Thread toby10

Amazing price!  BUY THEM ALL!  :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] When browsing for music the radio starts from the top each time?

2010-04-15 Thread toby10

getprogs;535399 Wrote: 
 Good reasoning, could very well be the correct explanation. Since it is
 supposed to connect to MSB.com (or at least based on the no of posts
 here re inaccessible servers it seems like that is what it is used for)
 no point in storing the state on a local server...
 
 Too bad - will probably have to live with only listening to artists
 starting with A (yes, I am the lazy type... ;)

Not a solution, but..

Spin that knob rather quickly and it will quickly go through your
Artists (or whatever menu list you are in).
With only four quick knob rotations I can get to the 477th item (Artist
in your case).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Please; Stop forcing/pushing the update...Please

2010-04-15 Thread erland

BillLogi;535426 Wrote: 
 No, both are on wall wart power. A thought though, I listen to 1.FM
 Classic Rock, if the stream suddenly goes down from them, would the
 Radio power off due to inactivity or missing data. 
 
Feels strange, if I hit pause or stop it will remain on forever, it's
only turned off if I hit the Off button.

I don't have a battery installed in mine, if you do it might explain
the differences. I'm not sure if installing a battery causes it to work
differently to increase the battery life.

I think there are some bugs related to when screen saver is set to
None, you might want to try configuring a screen saver and see if it
behaves differently.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 7.5.0 Hell -- when will 7.5.1 be out?

2010-04-15 Thread Nicnac

eap;534895 Wrote: 
 7.5 appears to have broken the reliability of alarm fade-in.  Sometimes
 it fades in and sometimes not (usually not).   Not an issue previously.

my alarm is completely hosed... and like someone else said, the problem
started BEFORE I upgraded to 7.5...
My alarm plays for 4 minutes EXACTLY... 4 minutes of my music, then the
default damn upbeat built in alarm, super loud. Next morning, 4 minutes
of my music then the damn default.
Almost threw the damn box out the window this morning...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Fallback alarm and SBR off after firmware update to 7.5

2010-04-15 Thread Nicnac

Rikk;531606 Wrote: 
 Hi everybody. This morning the radio failed to play the channel set for
 the alarm and played the fallback alarm instead. After this, it asked
 me to update to the new firmware version 7.5! This sounds quite
 strange.
 After the update it isn't able to connect to mySB anymore!
 Tryed to reset to factory settings with no success, as I rember it came
 with version 7.4.3 and now, after the reset the fw version is still
 7.5.
 Then I had to go to work, so I unplugged it! Damn!
 Note: I did all this while listening to the music from my SB3!
 I'm getting quite tired of these constant problems...

Ah exactly what happened to me! My Radio played the default upbeat
alarm LOUDLY the morning of the update (BEFORE I applied it)... Perhaps
the problem is not only with the update but with something on Logitech's
side!
Anyway, since then, my radio plays exactly 4 minutes of Pandora, then
goes to the default alarm EVERY morning... wonderful.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Workaround for too loud fallback alarm: change volume

2010-04-15 Thread gerko

The fallback alarm is ringing the last week many times. This alarm is
too loud. 
One option is to change the alarm.mp3 file, but another one is to
change the volume setting:

1. Log in to the radio using ssh
2. Edit the AlarmSnoozeApplet file: 
vi /usr/share/jive/applets/AlarmSnooze/AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua
3. search for volume (/volume)
You will find this function:
function soundFallbackAlarm(self)
log:warn(soundFallbackAlarm())
self.localPlayer:volumeLocal(43)
self.localPlayer:stop(true)
self.alarmInProgress = 'rtc'
self.localPlayer:playFileInLoop(self.alarmTone)
end
4. change the value of 43 to a lower one, e.g. 20:
self.localPlayer:volumeLocal(20)
5. save the file and you don't wake up with a heart-attack-alarm

Hopefully you don't need the fallback alarm.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] dropping connection after firmware update

2010-04-15 Thread toppy

Ikabob;535080 Wrote: 
 I think Logitech deserves some slack and not criticism. They have given
 us some awesome players and don't you think that anytime some new
 software is released to the masses that some tweaking is necessary? I
 think we should be patient with some issues that we may see here. They
 will get it fixed in due time and we'll all be happy. They monitor
 these forums, they act on the reported bugs. I have my Touch and I have
 faith that it'll be rock solid in due time. Let's be positive about this
 latest release. It will get better daily, I am sure.

DUE TIME was when I bought the radio..I  didn't due time the money
I paid Logitech for this radio. I've been reading this forum for
months and it is full of folks frustrated with the many bugs..not just
FW7.5.
Wondering how long until you decide you have been patient long enough?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio $133.88 at Buy.com - anybody found cheaper?

2010-04-15 Thread Tony T

JWagner;535571 Wrote: 
 Amazon's been lowering their price too. Either they're blowing them out
 to get ready for a new version or they're not selling to well at the
 normal retail.

I bought a few at Christmas on Amazon for 150.  Amazon is selling for
157 now, $7 higher


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] When browsing for music the radio starts from the top each time?

2010-04-15 Thread getprogs

and it does work a lot better for me than the similar function on the
controller (totally crappy executed, that wheel is) - still, would
prefer if the Radio behaved just like all my other Slimdevices   Sorry,
make that Logitech now. Don't wan't it to behave like my mouse,
though... ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Napster Issue With Radio Duet

2010-04-15 Thread ejnj

It's definitely a love/hate relationship with the radio. Is there a way
to report this problem without calling customer support? I can't find a
place to do so.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] podcast fast forwarding, please?

2010-04-15 Thread incircuitous

rmb1035;534816 Wrote: 
 Thanks for your help with FWD/REW on the Radio.  I had no idea that I
 was also supposed to turn the wheel after pressing the FWD/REW buttons.
 
 
 With the SB3, all you have to do is press the FWD/REW buttons and hold
 them down until you reach the point in the podcast where you want the
 playback to continue and then just release the button.  The playback
 then resumes from that point.  I figured that the radio should work the
 same way but it sounds like it doesn't.  
 
 Are these things documented anywhere for the Radio?

Well said, rmb1035!

I'll have to try that when I get home.  Wow, I need to look up in the
manual how to use fast forward because it works differently than the
other twelve devices I own that have a fast forward button?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] dropping connection after firmware update

2010-04-15 Thread Ikabob

toppy;535727 Wrote: 
 DUE TIME was when I bought the radio..I  didn't due time the money I
 paid Logitech for this radio. I've been reading this forum for months
 and it is full of folks frustrated with the many bugs..not just FW7.5.
 Wondering how long until you decide you have been patient long enough?

Many problems I have had were user errors and by my errors I have
learned how to handle many of my self-imposed problems. Some issues I
have had actually were resolved in DUE TIME  It might be that this
same scenario applies to others as well. I love the Squeezes and I have
found that Logitech staff is very responsive . Have you ever called
customer service ? Have you read the users manual? Have you asked
question on this forum? There are so many who can help you. Good luck.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Napster Issue With Radio Duet

2010-04-15 Thread ejnj

I figured it out- cut and paste this link into your browser: 
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15392  
you have to register on Bugzilla and then you can search for all
Napster (or any) bug reports. Ours is number 15392


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[SlimDevices: Radio] The last 2 firmware updates were horrible

2010-04-15 Thread gooseduck

Got this radio last Black Friday. I haven't seen a product with buggier
software.

However, I managed to get the machine work fairly reliably with the
original firmware. After 2 recent firmware updates, the thing got
really screwed up.

1. Sleep function doesn't work right (even after multiple factory reset
and reinstallation of the firmware): radio just abruptly turns itself
off after 5 minutes or so instead of fading out at set time (15', 30',
etc.).

2. If you set its alarm, it doesn't use your selected wakeup sound at
your selected volume, but an annoying loud synthetic music.

There is no problem with my internet connection or router.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] newbie question: remote, types of streams, log-in to webpages

2010-04-15 Thread leafygreens

Hi,
I'm considering getting the squeezebox radio.  I just have a few basic
questions:

1.  Remote
Can you use a universal off-the-shelf IR universal remote in place of
the over-priced logitech remote.  I assumed you can, but what are some
of the technical information you'll need to do this?  Remote codes?

2.  Log-in
If you're in a place that has a webpage login prior to internet access
(like a hotel), is it possible to get this to work?  Lets say you have
the Squeeze server installed on a laptop, and you can install
apps/whatever.  Is there an app that helps you log-in when you're at
a hotel's wireless connection, and then for the rest of the night, you
can use the SB?

3.  webpage streams
Some sites don't have dedicated streams.  They have a flash object on
the webpage and you click on the play button and it starts the stream. 
Are there Squeeze apps you can installed to handle these?  For example,
many NPR programs, like All Things Considered, is like that.


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