Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
unregistered;562462 Wrote: I buy a car, and the radio doesn't work, the dealer doesn't tell me 'its a car, not a stereo, you want a stereo buy a stereo'. I like this comparison as it gives a good example why people expect the alarm to work even though the logitech device might be a streaming device in the first place. Anyway - lets get back constructive again. As some people here (and also in other threads) have pointed out, that alarms also work together with mysqueezebox.com. So as a user forum our task here is to find out, what the differences are to those where it doesn't work (as complaints and disputes don't really help the matter). Unfortunately both users that where asked to provide further information failed to do so - noone will be able to help. For the rest of people using alarms together with MySB.com (and who are interested in a working solution) please do the following: - take a look at ciarmer posts. First thing you should do is to workaround this turns itself off problem. The official explanation of this workaround is here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16295#c19 . As there was a patch commited to the bug report there is hope that this annoying bug will vanish soon - make sure to configure your alarms ONLY directly on the Radio. Don't use the possibilities on mysqueezebox.com (or iPeng or other remotes) to configure alars. - Use an alarm time off the hour (i.e. 6:53 instead of 7:00) - Play around with different Radio Streams (at least to find out if your problem probably is only related to your stream). If you use Pandora try some time without Pandora (again not as a final solution but to see if its just some time lags that confuse your alarm). If you took these steps and your alarm is still failing, please provide us with more information: - what do you mean by 'failing': is the Radio staying completely silent (which I don't believe) or is the fallback alarm playing instead of your wanted stream - which stream do you use - what is your alarm time - what country are you living in ? -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80455 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
Hi, I just dug out my Radio beta unit to go in the garage. I've not used it for a while, and when it fires up I get a message saying something like Beta hardware - some functions may not work. After a firmware update, it seems to be working just fine. My question: is there anything specific that won't work with the beta hardware? Will the battery pack work with it? Thanks, R. PS. I'm well impressed with the sound from such a small unit - kudos to the designers. Ever thought of building a set of audiophile-grade active speakers?? -- robinbowes robinbowes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80518 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
AFAIK, the only functionality difference in Beta radio's vs production/retail Radio's is the battery will not work on a beta unit. Been using my beta Radio daily since entering the beta program and I've yet to find a function it cannot perform. Beta units are hardware version 1, production/retail units are hardware version 5. What hardware components (beyond battery circuits) are different between a 1 or a 5, I do not know. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80518 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
robinbowes;562522 Wrote:
Will the battery pack work with it?
No, as I've understood it the battery pack requires the production
version.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
On 07/18/2010 09:15 AM, robinbowes wrote: My question: is there anything specific that won't work with the beta hardware? Will the battery pack work with it? Why not send it back and get a production unit. Its bad form to keep beta units out in the wild. They need to go to the recycle shredder so some consumer doesn't accidentally get one a few years down the road. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
pfarrell;562538 Wrote: On 07/18/2010 09:15 AM, robinbowes wrote: My question: is there anything specific that won't work with the beta hardware? Will the battery pack work with it? Why not send it back and get a production unit. Its bad form to keep beta units out in the wild. They need to go to the recycle shredder so some consumer doesn't accidentally get one a few years down the road. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Some have chosen to do just that. Others, like myself, are waiting for the battery pack availability before turning in our beta units. Seems the latter is a bit less of a hassle for the person handling the beta trade ins. For me, absent buying a battery pack myself, I gain no real added functionality, so waiting makes more sense for me as well. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80518 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
pfarrell;562538 Wrote: On 07/18/2010 09:15 AM, robinbowes wrote: My question: is there anything specific that won't work with the beta hardware? Will the battery pack work with it? Why not send it back and get a production unit. Its bad form to keep beta units out in the wild. They need to go to the recycle shredder so some consumer doesn't accidentally get one a few years down the road. Is that what I was supposed to do? I must have missed that instruction! Who's the best person to contact to arrange this? Thanks, R. PS. Am I supposed to have returned any other beta products? I have a Transporter II, Touch II, an in-car Squeeze kicking around somewhere. ;) -- robinbowes robinbowes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80518 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
On 07/18/2010 12:45 PM, robinbowes wrote: Is that what I was supposed to do? I must have missed that instruction! It was in the beta forum. Who's the best person to contact to arrange this? Contact Mickey G PS. Am I supposed to have returned any other beta products? I have a Transporter II, Touch II, an in-car Squeeze kicking around somewhere. All but the in-car, give that to me. Sadly, my beta was red, and I hear that can't be replaced. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
pfarrell;562583 Wrote: On 07/18/2010 12:45 PM, robinbowes wrote: Is that what I was supposed to do? I must have missed that instruction! It was in the beta forum. Who's the best person to contact to arrange this? Contact Mickey G OK, will drop him a note. PS. Am I supposed to have returned any other beta products? I have a Transporter II, Touch II, an in-car Squeeze kicking around somewhere. pfarrell;562583 Wrote: Sadly, my beta was red, and I hear that can't be replaced. Hrm, mine's red too. I'll see what Mickey has to say. Thanks, R. -- robinbowes robinbowes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80518 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Beta hardware - still OK?
Mine's not going back until batteries are available :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80518 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
bluegaspode;562475 Wrote: - take a look at ciarmer posts. First thing you should do is to workaround this turns itself off problem. The official explanation of this workaround is here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16295#c19 . As there was a patch commited to the bug report there is hope that this annoying bug will vanish soon. So far, my experience is that the workaround seems to fix a number of issues: No more turning on by itself - No more turning off by itself after 10 seconds - No more alarm turning off after 10 seconds There were a few more posts to bug 16295 today. They included a few consolidations of other bugs as duplicates of the 16295 bug. These included some of the alarm problems. I agree that we are potentially on the verge of getting a fix for a number of the issues being experienced by users including the random turn on/turn off and alarm problems. -- ciarmer ciarmer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80455 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
JJZolx;562597 Wrote:
Does that mean that the Standby/OFF should not be used, or only the
full OFF (power down) should not be used?
As I interpret it, standby/off shouldn't be used, instead you should
use pause/stop when you don't want to use the player.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
bluegaspode;562475 Wrote: - make sure to configure your alarms ONLY directly on the Radio. I think this is critical, but it's not that simple. If you're not using SB Server and not disabling the option to sync with mysqueezebox.com in SB Server's advanced settings, then setting up an alarm on the SB itself will automatically sync the alarm with mysqueezebox.com. The alarm on that website has fewer options and if you're trying to wake up to something that's not on its short list of sounds then you have problems. Maybe you get what you want, maybe you get the default sound, maybe you get a few seconds of one and then the other, maybe they interfere with eachother out and you get nothing. -- eglynum eglynum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38970 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80455 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Pandora Alarm Clock - Wake up to Pandora
I think I'm on to something. Take a look at the results in the second post. -- eglynum eglynum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38970 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80096 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
JJZolx;562597 Wrote: Does that mean that the Standby/OFF should not be used, or only the full OFF (power down) should not be used? I have interpreted this to mean the Standby/OFF should not be used. What I have done is change the Stop screensaver to Digital Clock (Black). Digital Clock (Black) is the default screensaver for OFF. When I'm finished listening to any stream, I hit the pause button and then hold the pause button for a second to go into Stop mode. At this point, the stream is Stopped The stop indicator is shown in the lower left corner. After 30 seconds (which can be changed, I believe), the Digital Clock (Black) is shown so it looks like it would normally look if you had used Standby/OFF. From this status, you can turn a stream back on in the normal way (i.e. by hitting a preset or however else you would normally tune in a stream). This is working well for me. -- ciarmer ciarmer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37631 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80455 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
ciarmer;562649 Wrote: I have interpreted this to mean the Standby/OFF should not be used. If that's the case then if you use the Radio in a sync group another thing you might want to check is the setting for the Radio under Synchronize Synchronize Power. Make sure it's set to 'Power off/on separately'. I often use Off/Standby as a quick way to kill playback on my sync group as I'm heading out the door. What an unfortunate decision it was to rely on myqueezebox.com for such stupidly basic functionality on the Radio and Touch. That a subtle bug like this could cause such havoc is sobering. Another way to work around the bug would be to block mysqueezebox.com at your firewall, which I've recommended for quite a while. If the erratic and random behavior that people are seeing on the Radio were attributed to a virus, people would kill for a firewall solution that would block it. To date mysqueezebox.com integration is worse than a virus due to all the foul ups in the software. Here are the IP addresses to block: 66.151.159.227 (US west) 66.150.114.115 (US east) 89.202.121.131 (Europe) 74.201.85.104 (test.mysb.com) -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80455 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
bluegaspode;562631 Wrote: Hmm ? I don't understand your statement. If you are not using a local server, why do you write about the syncing option to MySB.com and possible problems with it ? If you're using mysqueezebox.com (or SB server with sync enabled), the alarm on your box will be linked with the alarm on the website. But it can't sync everything correctly since the choice of alarm sounds on the website is more limited than the choices you see from your box... current playlist for example isn't on the website. So when your box tries to play the current playlist and mysqueezebox.com tries to play Barn Fire (fill in the blank with the way your box/network responds to that). So the only solution is to stop the website alarm settings from trying to sync with your box by using SB Server and disabling the sync option. -- eglynum eglynum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38970 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80455 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm funtionality broken. Why did I buy this?
eglynum;562671 Wrote: If you're using mysqueezebox.com or SB server with sync left enabled, the alarm on your box will be linked with the alarm on the website either way. But it can't sync everything correctly since the choice of alarm sounds on the website is more limited than the choices you see from your box... current playlist for example isn't on the website. So when your box tries to play the current playlist and mysqueezebox.com tries to play Barn Fire (fill in the blank with the way your box/network responds to that). So the only solution is to stop the website alarm settings from trying to sync with your box by using SB Server and disabling the sync option. (FYI for all lurkers: you're not actually using SB Server until you go into My Music from your box) There is a similar bug for the boom ( as this tread is about both bom and radio) http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15554 The alarm setting on mysb.com corrupts the alarm set in sbs There is probably more to it than my initial report, 'm not sure if the times have to be the same. As I just don't use mysb.com directly anymore i don't suffer the consequences . -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE for the rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Miscellaneous use: Radio (with battery) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80455 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
