[SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio refuses to stop using old DHCP address

2013-01-11 Thread squeeze1234

My Squeezebox runs firmware version 7.7.2 r9663 and connects to the
Internet through an Ethernet connection from my ISP (Comcast) who gives
it an IP address via DHCP. I don't have a wireless network at home, so I
can only use Ethernet for my radio.

When I first set up the Squeezebox, Comcast gave it a DHCP address of
10.x.x.x and everything worked well.
I installed the Logitech Media Server (version 7.7.2 r33893) on my
Windows computer, which also connects to the Internet through the same
Ethernet connection from Comast, and the LMS served up all of my
computer's music to my Squeezebox without any problems.

A month ago, Comcast stopped giving out 10.x.x.x DHCP addresses and
started using the 192.168.x.x range.
My Windows computer running LMS immediately started using the new range
without any problems.

But for some reason, my Squeezebox refused to stop using the old DHCP
address.

I've tried several things to force the Squeezebox to give up its old
address and get a new one:

1. Power off and on.
2. Disconnect power cord and Ethernet and plug it back in.
3. Reinstall the firmware.

None of these actions make a difference. The Squeezebox still uses the
old address.

Out of frustration, I upgraded the Squeezebox to the UE firmware. 
The new firmware had no problems in getting and using a new DHCP address
from the 192.168.x.x range.

But I dislike the UE firmware (I have the same problems with it as many
others here), so I downgraded to the old firmware.
Immediately upon downgrading and restarting, the Squeezebox goes back
and uses the old 10.x.x.x DHCP address.

How can I get Squeezebox running the old firmware to stop using the old
DHCP address and start using a new one?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2013-01-11 Thread maggior

erland wrote: 
> Yes, the people on this forum is no longer the ones Logitech want to
> sell UE Smart Radio to. We are music enthusiasts and that's no longer
> Logitech's main target.
> 
> 
> You can probably get used ones on eBay and similar sites, but I
> understand your frustration, we all feel more or less exactly the same.
> 
> However, if you aren't in a urgent need, I would just wait, I'm sure
> some company eventually decides to take advantage of the market segment
> Logitech no longer is interested in. Developing new products will take a
> bit of time, so for any company that started to develop new products
> just after Logitech stopped selling Squeezebox it's likely going to take
> at least another 6-12 months before the products are ready to be
> released on the market.

Even used on eBay at this point will command a good price I believe. 
I'm fortunate to have built out my system for my needs before the bottom
dropped out.  Though I almost missed out on Booms because when I needed
my last one, I had to resort to eBay.  I work with a few guys that have
Booms (partly on my suggestion) and were dumbfounded when they heard
they were discontinued.  The love 'em!

Though more expensive and perhaps not available where you are, there is
Sonos.  You can use Andoid and iPhone/iPod to control them, or you can
purchase their dedicated controller.

I wonder if the niche is big enough to support both Sonos and the gap
left by Logitech?  We'll find out over the next year I think.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2013-01-11 Thread erland

wcndave wrote: 
> 
> Some posters were saying some categories don't exist much anymore,
> however i suspect that the latter two are both high growth potential,
> and Squeeze was the only one that handled them all in a complete house
> system.
> 
> Therefore reducing the range to the one item that the kind of people who
> frequent this forum will care about the least is a real shame...
> 
Yes, the people on this forum is no longer the ones Logitech want to
sell UE Smart Radio to. We are music enthusiasts and that's no longer
Logitech's main target.

wcndave wrote: 
> 
> I am building a and was waiting until then to get a couple of booms, and
> 2 or 3 touches, however I am not left with no real options :-(
> 
You can probably get used ones on eBay and similar sites, but I
understand your frustration, we all feel more or less exactly the same.

However, if you aren't in a urgent need, I would just wait, I'm sure
some company eventually decides to take advantage of the market segment
Logitech no longer is interested in. Developing new products will take a
bit of time, so for any company that started to develop new products
just after Logitech stopped selling Squeezebox it's likely going to take
at least another 6-12 months before the products are ready to be
released on the market.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread bpa

Wolf1 wrote: 
> Thank you again, I have found a thread on how to revert back to SBR, and
> now its all working again with your URL

Not my URL but from http://www.radiofeeds.co.uk/  . There used to be a
plugin for RadioFeeds but some change in LMS broke it.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread bpa

Wolf1 wrote: 
> Brill thank you that works on Squeezexbox Boom as can add a custom URL
> However on Squeezebox radio UE there is no option to add custom URL's on
> the website, unless I am missing something.
> I have to use http://www.uesmartradio.com/index/Home
I'm gobsmacked at the crazy loss of functionality. Others think so too 
see
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Logitech-UE/How-to-add-internet-radio-URLs-to-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/921382

The solution is to use iPeng UE.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread Wolf10000

kidstypike wrote: 
> Sorry I can't help with your problem, I just wish to point out that the
> UE Smart Radio is just that, it is not a Squeezebox.

Thank you again, I have found a thread on how to revert back to SBR, and
now its all working again with your URL



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread kidstypike

Wolf1 wrote: 
> Brill thank you that works on Squeezexbox Boom as can add a custom URL
> However on Squeezebox radio UE there is no option to add custom URL's on
> the website, unless I am missing something.
> I have to use http://www.uesmartradio.com/index/Home

Sorry I can't help with your problem, I just wish to point out that the
UE Smart Radio is just that, it is not a Squeezebox.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread Wolf10000

bpa wrote: 
> Try this URL saved as afavorites
> http://icy-e-01.sharp-stream.com:80/wave105.mp3

Brill thank you that works on Squeezexbox Boom as can add a custom URL
However on Squeezebox radio UE there is no option to add custom URL's on
the website, unless I am missing something.
I have to use http://www.uesmartradio.com/index/Home



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread bpa

Try this URL saved as afavorites
http://icy-e-01.sharp-stream.com:80/wave105.mp3



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread Wolf10000

bpa wrote: 
> Interesting - wave105 plays OK on PC using Flash but won't play because
> geolocked using Tunein on my Android.
> 
> On Android it shows the format at end of the time bar.

I think it is Wave105 changing something, as it used to work 6 months or
so ago, they are just down the road, so could take the SB radio in and
ask them to get it going
They will potentially be losing customers and they wont want that :)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread bpa

Interesting - wave105 plays OK on PC using Flash but won't play because
geolocked using Tunein on my Android.

On Android it shows the format at end of the time bar.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread Wolf10000

bpa wrote: 
> What format is being played ?  Are you using a standard player or a
> special player for Wave105 ?
> 
> 
> Probably, especially if Wave105 needed a special App for the iPhone. 
> Stations incompatible with Squeezebox will not be listed.

I am using the default player TuneIn.  How do I find out what format
Wave is broadcasting?

Guessing then I need to see if there is a compatible app on SB UA to
install, then try again



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread bpa

Wolf1 wrote: 
> Works fine on my iPhone but I would like it on my Squeezebox Radio UE.
What format is being played ?  Are you using a standard player or a
special player for Wave105 ?

> Is it because Wave105 are using Flash only that it has now stopped
> working?  I can get nearly every other radio Station in Hampshire
> Wave 105 on the Squeezebox is not even listed
Probably, especially if Wave105 needed a special App for the iPhone. 
Stations incompatible with Squeezebox will not be listed.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread Wolf10000

bpa wrote: 
> It plays OK in Ireland but it looks like it uses Flash Audio which is
> not supported by LMS and SBs.  What are youusing to play the stream.

Works fine on my iPhone but I would like it on my Squeezebox Radio UE.

Is it because Wave105 are using Flash only that it has now stopped
working?  I can get nearly every other radio Station in Hampshire
Wave 105 on the Squeezebox is not even listed



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wave105 on Squeezebox radio

2013-01-11 Thread Wolf10000

jimbobvfr400 wrote: 
> I'm oop north in Yorkshire and can play Wave105 perfectly well. Although
> I did think for a second you'd have to be in Vice City to get it :-) 
> 
> If you go to http://ip.nefsc.noaa.gov what does it show as your host
> name? 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD

Says 02df8811.bb.sky.com.  Works perfectly on my iPhone, but I am trying
to use the Squeezebox Radio UE to play Wave105



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2013-01-11 Thread pippin

RichieB wrote: 
> With iPeng on iOS you get a mobile player as an optional in-app
> purchase. Works really well. There is also iPeng UE, but I'm not sure it
> also has this feature.
> http://penguinlovesmusic.de/ipeng-the-iphone-skin-for-squeezecenter/

iPeng UE currently does NOT have the playback feature and I don't know
if it ever will.

Other than with the Squeezebox, a UE player can't work entirely locally
but needs to use the uesmartradio.com infrastructure and at least for
MySqueezebox.com Logitech explicitly disallowed that.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2013-01-11 Thread wcndave

erland wrote: 
> UE Smart Radio isn't designed for people like you... So as long as 2B is
> a "yes" in your example Logitech has successfully provided what their
> target user for UE Smart Radio is interested inSmart Radio isn't a
> Squeezebox and it will never be a Squeezebox (unless you manually
> downgrade it to Squeezebox firmware), it's an internet radio device with
> some premium features. Unfortunately the current price is not set
> according to an internet radio, it's set for a Squeezebox kind of
> device, which probably means that there are currently a limited amount
> of people who really loves it. I suspect the users who only needs
> something for the 2B category really is looking for devices at $99 and
> below.

Yes, i suppose that was my point.

Before you had a range of device that covered everything from high range
audiophiles to CD collectors, to something to do the washing up to.

Some posters were saying some categories don't exist much anymore,
however i suspect that the latter two are both high growth potential,
and Squeeze was the only one that handled them all in a complete house
system.

Therefore reducing the range to the one item that the kind of people who
frequent this forum will care about the least is a real shame...

I am building a and was waiting until then to get a couple of booms, and
2 or 3 touches, however I am not left with no real options :-(



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] New Squeezebox Radio

2013-01-11 Thread RichieB

With iPeng on iOS you get a mobile player as an optional in-app
purchase. Works really well. There is also iPeng UE, but I'm not sure it
also has this feature.
http://penguinlovesmusic.de/ipeng-the-iphone-skin-for-squeezecenter/



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