Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

2013-04-03 Thread Mnyb

 And some of the web radio too mherger made large chunks of the
Tune-in stuff local in the 7.8 server beta .
Thera are some plugins for spotify bbc and a choice of others that runs
on a local server .
But most apps will be gone if mysqueezebox.com turns off .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

2013-04-03 Thread erland

hip2b2 wrote: 
> That is my understanding, though I am looking for confirmation.  My
> belief is that once the Smart Radio is converted it is now for all
> intents and purposes a Squeezebox.
> 
The link is only needed during the upgrade process, it will disappear
automatically when you do the factory reset in the last step.

The reason for the symbolic link is that the UE Smart Radio firmware
will look for firmware at uesmartradio.com (where it will find UE Smart
Radio firmware) and the symbolic link will make it take the firmware
from the local file instead of downloading it from uesmartradio.com.

When the device have Squeezebox firmware it will look for firmware at
mysqueezebox.com servers and this will make it find Squeezebox firmware,
not UE Smart Radio firmware, as long as you haven't selected on
mysqueezebox.com web site that it should be "upgraded" to a UE Smart
Radio. 

hip2b2 wrote: 
> 
> Does anyone know of any solutions to remove Logitech for the operation
> of the SB and get full functionality.  My thought is that one day they
> may turn off the tap and force users to -shudder -the Smart Radio.
> 
You will be able to continue use it for local music, internet radio and
some of the online services if you have LMS installed on a computer,
Raspberry Pi or other similar device. Some of the online services are
going to stop working when Logitech shut down mysqueezebox.com, but
that's unlikely to happen intentionally while they still have devices
under warranty. However, it can still happen by accident since most of
the people with the right knowledge has been laid off recently so if it
breaks they might not have the necessary people to fix the problems.

Future will tell if there will be an alternative solution after Logitech
shuts down mysqueezebox.com.
I'm not that worried for Radio and Touch since they can be loaded with
custom firmware, the problem is bigger for the older devices (Boom,
Transporter, Classic, Receiver) but they will still continue to work for
local music as long as LMS works.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

2013-04-03 Thread hip2b2

dkfackler wrote: 
> So, once the firmware is installed, the radio doesn't need to be
> 'diverted' to the new location(via the symlink) at boot-up?
> 
> Re: Raspberry Pi: the plan is to use it as a "NAS" and not run a whole
> computer all the time.
> 
> ~DK

That is my understanding, though I am looking for confirmation.  My
belief is that once the Smart Radio is converted it is now for all
intents and purposes a Squeezebox.

Regards

hip



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

2013-04-03 Thread dkfackler

So, once the firmware is installed, the radio doesn't need to be
'diverted' to the new location(via the symlink) at boot-up?

Re Raspberry Pi: the plan is to use it as a "NAS" and not run a whole
computer all the time.

~DK



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

2013-04-03 Thread hip2b2

dkfackler wrote: 
> My ignorance may be showing, but does the radio need that pointer to the
> desired firmware? Without the symlink, would the radio be once again a
> "StupidRadio"?
> 
> My formerly StupidRadio is much better and more useful as a Squeezebox.
> 
> Now to use a Raspberry Pi as a server...
> 
> ~DK

The symlink is required to install the .bin file from it's non-standard
location in the /media directory.

Now it's my turn to expose my ignorance.  When you write "use a
Raspberry Pi as a server..." do you mean use it as a true replacement
for the Logitech server, or as a server for podcasts and music files?

Regards

hip



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

2013-04-03 Thread dkfackler

My ignorance may be showing, but does the radio need that pointer to the
desired firmware? Without the symlink, would the radio be once again a
"StupidRadio"?

My formerly StupidRadio is much better and more useful as a Squeezebox.

Now to use a Raspberry Pi as a server...

~DK



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio switches itself on

2013-04-03 Thread ASS-Ware

Nobody?
I can't be the only one with this issue.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio switches itself on

2013-04-03 Thread pippin

Is it synced to another SB?
Does your NAS or router go to sleep overnight?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio switches itself on

2013-04-03 Thread Mnyb

A paused player can sometimes restart i've noticed but it does happen
very rarely , so on interfaces where there is stop I stop the players
instead of pausing them , otherwise i whipe they now playing playlist if
i'm leaving home for a vacations and longer trips .

The Power On Resume settings may further influence this , I can imagine
it bee a bit buggy when the server and player itself does not agree on
player state , if you have the player set to resume playing when turned
on it may act like this .
Other settings may just make it to go to on state by this bug .



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio switches itself on

2013-04-03 Thread Mark Miksis

Since you run LMS, I would check the logs.  You may want to enable some
of the player logging options.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS

2013-04-03 Thread hip2b2

simlu wrote: 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> First of all I'd like to share with you my disappointment with the UE
> Smart Radio. Shame on me I didn't read enough before buying. I was sure
> this little music box would be better than it's predecessor but it's
> quite the opposite. A lot of cool features have been removed and the one
> I wanted the most with the UE Smart Radio wasn't there: playing music
> locally using my Synology NAS.
> 
> I decided to downgrade the firmware to baby 7.7.2 (r9663), thanks to
> some useful posts I found on this forum. So far, I've encountered no
> issues at all. Here's the information of my UE:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > #cat /etc/squeezeos.version
  > 10.0.1 r16963
  > r...@ec2mbubld01.idc.logitech.com Thu Nov 8 09:33:51 PST 2012
  > Base build revision:  b4b03b7fc83610c2bcd43bd71a8461768cfd2519
  > 
  > #cat /proc/cpuinfo
  > Processor   : ARM926EJ-S rev 4 (v5l)
  > BogoMIPS: 359.62
  > Features: swp half thumb fastmult edsp java
  > CPU implementer : 0x41
  > CPU architecture: 5TEJ
  > CPU variant : 0x0
  > CPU part: 0x926
  > CPU revision: 4
  > Cache type  : write-back
  > Cache clean : cp15 c7 ops
  > Cache lockdown  : format C
  > Cache format: Harvard
  > I size  : 16384
  > I assoc : 4
  > I line length   : 32
  > I sets  : 128
  > D size  : 16384
  > D assoc : 4
  > D line length   : 32
  > D sets  : 128
  > 
  > Hardware: Logitech MX25 Baby Board
  > Revision: 0007
  > Serial  :
  > UUID: 
  > 

> > 
> 
> If it can be of any help for someone else, here's what I did:
> 
> 1 - Start the UE Smart Radio
> 2 - Go into the Settings menu and press button Home and ffwd(>>). A
> new Developers menu will appear at the bottom.
> 3 - Go into the Developers menu and enable remote access (SSH)
> 4 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and
> pressing it again
> 5 - ssh on your smart radio (You can find the IP address somewhere in
> the Settings menu) using root as the user and 1234 for the password
> 6 - You need to edit a lua script to add the FirmwareUpgrade option.
> Do the following:
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > #vi 
/usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua
  > 

> > 
> 
> Now find the following line
> 
> - --  jiveMain:addItem(meta:menuItem('appletSetupFirmwareUpgrade',
> 'advancedSettings',
> "UPDATE", function(applet) applet:showFirmwareUpgradeMenu() end,
> 115))-
> 
> You need to uncomment this line by deleting the "--". Type :wq! (Save
> and quit)
> 
> 7 - Reboot the UE Smart Radio by holding down the power button and
> pressing it again
> 8 - Download the 7.7.2 Revision 9663 firmware 
> http://update.mysqueezebox.com/update/firmware/7.8.0/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin
> 9 - Copy the firmware on your Smart Radio in directory /dev (using scp
> or any other software) since it's the only partition with enough disk
> space
> 10 - Create a symlink using the following command so the smart radio
> sees the new firmware:
> > 
Code:

  >   > 
  > #cd /media
  > #ln -s /dev/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin
  > 

> > 
> 11 - Go in to Settings->AdvancedSettings->FirmwareUpgrade (something
> like that) and do the upgrade
> 12 - When the squeezebox (!) has finished rebooting, you will be happy
> and I strongly suggest that you do a factory reset (Go in Settings ->
> Advanced -> Restore factory settings)

Just wondering; is there any reason to remove the SYMLINK (#rm symlink)
as the final step?  It would seem unnecessary once the device is
converted to a Squeezebox.

Thanks 

hip



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