Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
bklaas wrote: > Try this: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99027-Smart-Radio-and-Squeezebox-software-upgradability&p=759470&viewfull=1#post759470 Thanks a lot for your help, the crossgrade worked perfectly! :) copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
copperstate wrote: > How does one do the crossgrade to the "real" SB-Radio? > > Thanks a lot for your help :) > > P.S.: My UE-Radio was about 90 Euro from the logitech store (incl. S&H) Try this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99027-Smart-Radio-and-Squeezebox-software-upgradability&p=759470&viewfull=1#post759470 Former Logitech Developer: Squeezeplay/SqueezeOS/SqueezeboxController/SqueezeCenter Community Developer: Nokia770Skin (r.i.p.) http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ 'KHAAAN!' (http://khaaan.com/)...'BUNNIES!' (http://bettychuenglishangora.com/) bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Paul Webster wrote: > My 2nd SBRadio (UE Smart Radio really) has just arrived - 76GBP > including shipping from Logitech UK store in their "closeout" section. > Part of that discount was because of a 1 day promotional code. > > The cross-grade to SBR worked flawlessly. How does one do the crossgrade to the "real" SB-Radio? Thanks a lot for your help :) P.S.: My UE-Radio was about 90 Euro from the logitech store (incl. S&H) copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
My 2nd SBRadio (UE Smart Radio really) has just arrived - 76GBP including shipping from Logitech UK store in their "closeout" section. Part of that discount was because of a 1 day promotional code. The cross-grade to SBR worked flawlessly. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
So it was a good decision to shop the 99 offer today from Saturn Germany. Want to upgrade my Bluetooth radio setup in the bathroom to a battery powered WiFi solution. Gesendet von meinem KFSOWI mit Tapatalk th80's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22097 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
castalla wrote: > Would it not depend on 'registration' date - I doubt Logi have a record > of sales I think they have to take a guess somewhere , a lot of us have unused squeezeboxes as spares ? Someone is probably sitting in UE radio . They probably go from when all inventory is gone , but then a couple of radios can be stuck at a retailer . So again a guess . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
pippin wrote: > @aubuti > > For the Smart Radio this is NOT the case. Without UESmartRadio.com the > Smart Radio will be a brick. > So I'd guess they'd at least somehow have to move people over to a > Squeezebox firmware which will be especially interesting for those whom > they convinced to "upgrade" to the UE firmware in the past Thanks for the correction. The earlier post was about both SB and UE and you're right that the demise of the online service means different things to both. Even so, if they wait until the warranty is expired on the last UE Smart Radio sold before pulling the plug on UESmartRadio.com they don't have to do anything about moving users to SB firmware. They'd be sleazebags if they didn't help with migration, but I wouldn't hold my breath. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
aubuti wrote: > Thanks for the correction. The earlier post was about both SB and UE and > you're right that the demise of the online service means different > things to both. Even so, if they wait until the warranty is expired on > the last UE Smart Radio sold before pulling the plug on UESmartRadio.com > they don't have to do anything about moving users to SB firmware. They'd > be sleazebags if they didn't help with migration, but I wouldn't hold my > breath. Would it not depend on 'registration' date - I doubt Logi have a record of sales Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker Cubieboard + Fedora 18 + LMS 7.8 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
@aubuti For the Smart Radio this is NOT the case. Without UESmartRadio.com the Smart Radio will be a brick. So I'd guess they'd at least somehow have to move people over to a Squeezebox firmware which will be especially interesting for those whom they convinced to "upgrade" to the UE firmware in the past --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
buffettck wrote: > They'd better support it until the last damned device dies. They > basically have a CONTRACT with existing owners because the service is > REQUIRED for the devices to work correctly. Without it, they are > basically expensive paperweights. Yeah, I know you can do things > manually, but we PAID for a slick interface to go along with our radios > and it was a package deal. aubuti wrote: > Um, sorry that's not how it works. There is no such contract with > existing owners. In many countries, notably the EU member states, they > are required by law to continue support for two years after the last > damned device is sold. After that we're on our own. And the only > services that will be lost are streaming services such as Pandora, > Rhapsody, etc. Local music will still work just the same, and even > TuneIn will work for internet radio if you use LMS 7.8.0. toby10 wrote: > There's a contract alright, the one you agreed to when you registered at > MySB.com. > > "Logitech reserves the right to limit or terminate your access to this > Website or terminate or suspend your registration for failure to comply > with the terms and policies posted on this Website, including these > Terms, or for any reason at any time." it's required to work untill the warranty time expire , so expect the damned service to quit at the exact date the last units warrantty expires ;) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
toby10 wrote: > There's a contract alright, the one you agreed to when you registered at > MySB.com. > > "Logitech reserves the right to limit or terminate your access to this > Website or terminate or suspend your registration for failure to comply > with the terms and policies posted on this Website, including these > Terms, or for any reason at any time." Oh yeah, I had forgotten about that contract. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
There's a contract alright, the one you agreed to when you registered at MySB.com. "Logitech reserves the right to limit or terminate your access to this Website or terminate or suspend your registration for failure to comply with the terms and policies posted on this Website, including these Terms, or for any reason at any time." toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
buffettck wrote: > They'd better support it until the last damned device dies. They > basically have a CONTRACT with existing owners because the service is > REQUIRED for the devices to work correctly. Without it, they are > basically expensive paperweights. Yeah, I know you can do things > manually, but we PAID for a slick interface to go along with our radios > and it was a package deal. Um, sorry that's not how it works. There is no such contract with existing owners. In many countries, notably the EU member states, they are required by law to continue support for two years after the last damned device is sold. After that we're on our own. And the only services that will be lost are streaming services such as Pandora, Rhapsody, etc. Local music will still work just the same, and even TuneIn will work for internet radio if you use LMS 7.8.0. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Mr. Bill wrote: > > So now the big question, how long will Logitech continue to support the > necessary infrastructure to keep the radios alive now that both the > Squeezebox and UE radios are EOL? I hope it is at least 2 years which > should be enough time for some type of alternate service provider to > take over support. > > Bill They'd better support it until the last damned device dies. They basically have a CONTRACT with existing owners because the service is REQUIRED for the devices to work correctly. Without it, they are basically expensive paperweights. Yeah, I know you can do things manually, but we PAID for a slick interface to go along with our radios and it was a package deal. buffettck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
What do you want to sell? Michael? I think he can decide for himself what he wants... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
They'll never sell it, they will just let it fade away. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Actually, the big question is, now that they've finally given up completely on finding a use for SB hardware and software, will they finally sell the darn thing to someone who might have an interest in reviving the product? It's not worth much anymore, but I bet by now they've written the whole thing off such that any amount would be better than nothing. 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch...and an iPeng convert. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Hello all, I saw this response posted on the official Logitech forum a few days ago. It is a response from Camacho who is listed as a Logitech support specialist to the question 'Has the UE Smart Radio been discontinued': Begin Quote: -At this moment we do not sell any UE Smart Radios anymore but we still support them. However, we do not have any information about similar products coming out but if we know something we will let our users know about it. Kind regards, Camacho Support Specialist- End Quote: So now the big question, how long will Logitech continue to support the necessary infrastructure to keep the radios alive now that both the Squeezebox and UE radios are EOL? I hope it is at least 2 years which should be enough time for some type of alternate service provider to take over support. Bill *Server:* Vortexbox on Intel Core 2 Duo > LMS v7.8 feeding the following: *Family Room:* Touch > Pioneer AV Receiver > Infinity Reference Speakers x5 *Living Room:* Squeezebox Radio x2 (configured as separate left and right) *Master Bedroom:* UE Squeezebox Radio x2 (configured as separate left and right) *Study:* Touch > Sony AV Receiver > Infinity Reference Speakers x2 *Office:* UE Squeezebox Radio *Controller:* Nextbook HD8 tablet, Orange Squeeze, *Spares:* Touch x1, Radio x2 Mr. Bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58928 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
I just picked one up today in UK from Pc WorlD/Currys for 79.97GBP - when they list something with a price of 97p it means that it is about to be discontinued from them. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Shame that Logitech did not have an end of line sale on the UE Radios in germany... Well now Squeezebox is truly officially dead. I wonder how long they will be keeping mysqueezebox and the UE streaming site open now... I use MOG and therefore rely on the site. Really sad how Logitech killed such an innovative product - which definitely was ahead of it's time. RIP Guess I will try and grab a cheap UE Radio now... LMS 7.8.0 on Wandboard Synology DS-410j NAS Squeezebox Touch, Squeezebox Boom, Squeezebox Radio Schiit - BIFROST Dac MOG, Spotify Premium iPhone: iPeng - iPad: Squeezepad, iPengHD Squeezemenicely's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41812 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
reinholdk wrote: > Same is now true for Logitech Germany. A shame, but I can't really say I'm surprised, after dropping the Touch and Radio and introducing the Smart Radio I guess this was inevitable. I hope my boxes will continue to function for many years yet, and that we see some replacement emerge with the same or better functionality, hopefully without forcing us to be Linux experts, during that time. But Logitech is speaking loud and clear, at least to me. Mikael mikael_b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
durks wrote: > I notice that it's now dropped off the Logitech UK website, too. Same is now true for Logitech Germany. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
pippin wrote: > Or just no longer being sold in the US? > It's no longer mentioned on the US Logitech web site. While it is still > showing in the German version of the products web site. I notice that it's now dropped off the Logitech UK website, too. durks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57314 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
HeadBanger wrote: > For anyone who's never owned a streaming product before then Sonos will > be fantastic. > However, for those who have previously run a Squeezebox environment and > then move to Sonos I'm pretty sure that they will find it lacking; it's > all relative! > Yes, I can confirm that. I did buy a Sonos ZP90 a few years ago. At that time I was fed up with the buggy LMS releases (around version 7.6). The Sonos was around for about one month. I really could not live with such an inferior system. When you're used to Squeezebox then Sonos is not an option. 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless 1 x Wandboard Dual behind the bedroom ceiling 1 x Wandboard Dual for 'msqueeze' (http://www.msqueeze.co.nf/index.html) project ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.7.3. w iTunes plugin iPeng 7 on iPhone. SqueezePad & iPeng 7 on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Just ordered a white one from Logitech website (NL) for EUR 129,- :-) Ralph Meridian 506.24, Squeezebox Touch, Technics SL-1210 M5G KAB + Phonoclone, DIY amplifiers, Linkwitz Orions+ incl Thors, Sennheiser HD650 + PPAv2 headphone amp MrRalph's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
HeadBanger wrote: > Logitech's stamp on streaming history will be that they somehow managed > to kill off the best audio streaming solution that there *_still_* is. Revisiting this forum after an absence of some time. I still use my SBs at home, but haven't updated any software or hardware in a long time. Now I really regret not getting the rack-mountable SB when they were being sold. This situation reminds me in an odd way of the Amiga. Commodore bought an amazing, innovative product and company and had no idea what to do with it. They ended up killing it. Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
For anyone who's never owned a streaming product before then Sonos will be fantastic. However, for those who have previously run a Squeezebox environment and then move to Sonos I'm pretty sure that they will find it lacking; it's all relative! If the UE Radio is dead then that really is a shame. Logitech's stamp on streaming history will be that they somehow managed to kill off the best audio streaming solution that there *_still_* is. 2 x Duet, 2 x Radio, Touch & Receiver with iPeng 7 & SqueezePlayer served by HP N36 running FreeNAS/SlimNAS/LMS 7.8 HeadBanger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Bagged a Radio in the post Xmas sales for £99 here in UK. The "switch to squeezebox" process was painless so at least Logitech must have invested some time in making it possible. I still think SB is better than Sonos but my son has got a Sonos for Christmas so I shall be able to properly compare shortly. QNAP TS419p 4Tb LMS7.6.1 Living Room - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 connected Digitally - > Celestion Ditton F20s - and connected Analogue for Zone 2 -> Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser HDR 130 Office - SB3 -> Sony TA FE320 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Bedroom - SBT -> Topping TP21 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Remote - Squeezeplay -> Windows XP PC -> USB Speakers d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
The Logitech site for Singapore still shows the Smart Radio, but for S$329! (approx US$269). Logitech always managed to price the Squeezebox products absurdly high here. whanafi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
The going price in the US is now $120, mostly from small resellers (Amazon Marketplace, etc. -- congrats, m1abrams, on your $99 score). I sure hope there's good news around the corner, but this does feel like the end, the supply dwindling & driving up prices. If that's the case, well, good luck, Michael. http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Note: The best way to reach me is email or PM, as I don't spend time on the forums. *Free plugins:* AllQuiet Auto Dim/AutoDisplay BlankSaver ContextMenu DenonSerial FuzzyTime KidsPlay KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
erland wrote: > > However, if they have removed the UE Smart Radio devices from the stores > it's pretty official in my mind Yea. But the point is: they didn't remove it from _all_ stores, just the US one. If my iPeng figures are an indicator then the majority of Squeezebox users are now in Europe, no longer in the US as they used to be when I started it. In the early days, iPeng sold more then 50% of it's copies in the US, not the US aren't even the biggest individual market anymore. Now for iPeng UE, that statistic is a bit inconclusive due to low numbers but one month the US was even behind Switzerland in iPeng UE sales so I'd say it's similar. So it might be that Logitech just gave up on it in the US. Or they have more leftover stock in Europe. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
pippin wrote:
> Hm, anything really official should be allowed to get published or it's
> not really "official". Maybe I should have said "an official
> announcement" or something.
> Wasn't there one when the Squeezeboxes were discontinued?
>
As far as I remember there was only the unofficial post in this forum
(which might not have been authorised by Logitech management):
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96188-New-Squeezebox-Radio&p=714295&viewfull=1#post714295
And officially there was just the the UE Smart Radio announcement:
http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/884530
And a bit later they also officially posted the open letter to
Squeezebox fans:
http://blog.logitech.com/2012/09/28/an-open-letter-to-squeezebox-fans
However, if they have removed the UE Smart Radio devices from the stores
it's pretty official in my mind, I can remember any time they have done
that in the past where it hasn't meant that they were about to stop
selling the product officially. Just face it, these kind of decisions is
not something Logitech are good at communicating with there customers,
they probably want to be sure someone still buys the UE Smart Radio
devices they have left in the stores. In theory it could also mean that
they are about to announce a UE Smart Radio 2, but personally I doubt
that's the case.
It will be interesting to see how they will handle uesmartradio.com.
Since they still have devices under warranty, I would suspect that they
need to keep something running, but theoretically they can just
downgrade all UE Smart Radio users to Squeezebox Radio and make them use
mysqueezebox.com instead and avoid the need to run two set of central
servers. Of course, doing that would be kind of admitting that the whole
UE Smart Radio product was a mistake and I wonder if the management
really is prepared to do that.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Hm, anything really official should be allowed to get published or it's not really "official". Maybe I should have said "an official announcement" or something. Wasn't there one when the Squeezeboxes were discontinued? --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
pippin wrote: > Ben, I completely agree with your analysis. Every word if it. > But I was wondering whether someone (hint, hint) had heard something > official :) You should know by now that the guy who had heard anything official is either not visiting these forums, or not allowed to say anything anyway. :-) Michael http://www.herger.net/slim-plugins - MusicArtistInfo, MusicInfoSCR, Smart Mix mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Ben, I completely agree with your analysis. Every word if it. But I was wondering whether someone (hint, hint) had heard something official :) --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
The answer to your thread question is almost certainly yes. Squeezebox as a product family was moved a few years ago to Ultimate Ears (UE), the "cool" audio arm of Logitech acquired through acquisition. About a year after UE took over Squeezebox they announce the "Smart Radio", the same hardware as Squeezebox Radio but with a different firmware that amongst other things explicitly severed compatibility with any previous Squeezebox. This was a clear move by UE to distance themselves from the "too complicated" Squeezebox and move to a more mainstream user interface. This product has been a failure. They alienated the core consumer by providing a non-backwards compatible device, so they were relying on a more-or-less completely new set of consumers to purchase the Smart Radio. Those consumers did not show up. Earlier this year they freed up the Smart Radio hardware to allow the installation of Squeezebox firmware. There were at least a few threads on the forum of people thinking Logitech might be re-embracing Squeezebox. I chose to interpret it as something different: since no one was buying the Smart Radio, they were trying to speed along the flushing out of all stock of this device. Then they could wash their hands of it for good and push all of their effort into Bluetooth speakers, which I have to guess they are both selling a lot of and making great profit margin on. It doesn't hurt that the software engineering effort is an order of magnitude less. An aside, I'm watching an NFL game the other day and a big section of the game is "brought to you by Sonos". Ad space on an NFL broadcast is very expensive, so it's crystal clear there's a market niche for what Squeezebox was (and what Sonos continues to be), it's just that Logitech has never been a company built to deliver such a thing. Logitech's core business has been and always will be accessories, and good streaming audio systems are more than that. I'll keep rocking my squeezeboxes until they die of old age, but they are dead to Logitech, including the failed Smart Radio. In fact, I think they've all been dead to Logitech for quite some time, it just wasn't public information. Squeezebox is dead. Long live Squeezebox! cheers, #!/ben Former Logitech Developer: Squeezeplay/SqueezeOS/SqueezeboxController/SqueezeCenter Community Developer: Nokia770Skin (r.i.p.) http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ 'KHAAAN!' (http://khaaan.com/)...'BUNNIES!' (http://bettychuenglishangora.com/) bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Might explain the deep discount we saw on them a few weeks ago. Picked one up with battery for $99. m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Is the Smart Radio about to be discontinued?
Or just no longer being sold in the US? It's no longer mentioned on the US Logitech web site. While it is still showing in the German version of the products web site. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100616 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
