Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-04 Thread ftlight

Philip Meyer;522448 Wrote: 
 
 The most important thing is to vote for the bug(s).  This makes it more
 likely to be implemented.
 
 

I added my vote on the ones that didn't have it already.

Here's the list of bugs again for any other music schedulers who want
to comment or vote:

https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13602 - Alarm snooze
options
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9329 - Per-alarm options
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14429

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-04 Thread tcutting

ftlight;522521 Wrote: 
 I added my vote on the ones that didn't have it already.
 
 Here's the list of bugs again for any other music schedulers who want
 to comment or vote:
 
 https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13602 - Alarm snooze
 options
 https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9329 - Per-alarm options
 https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14429
 
 Bill

I tried to vote for 13602, but for some reason I couldn't... I've voted
for other bugs/enhancements in the past.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-03 Thread ftlight

Philip Meyer;522172 Wrote: 
 
 The display of the popup modal dialog is specific to Radio (and
 Touch?); there should be a separate setting to define how the alarm
 interface works dependent on player type.  This could be handled
 generically, as mentioned in other threads, by having an Alarm Display
 (Screensaver) mode, so the user could pick an appropriate display mode
 per-player.  eg. either Popup Dialog (perhaps the default), various
 clock displays, Now Playing screen, etc.
 
 If Alarm Timeout = 0, the player won't be in alarm mode, and therefore
 the When Playing screensaver would always be displayed.

That sounds good; what has to be done to request this?

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-03 Thread Phil Meyer
That sounds good; what has to be done to request this?

I thought I already had a bug on having an alarm screensaver mode, but can't 
find it via search.  Perhaps it was closed, or I had added it as a comment to 
another bug?

Anyway, rather than raise another one, for now I added it as a comment on:
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13602 - Alarm snooze options

You should vote for it (perhaps add a note saying that you think it's a good 
idea), and add yourself to the CC list so you get to see progress of the 
bug/enhancement.

Other bugs/enhancements you might be interested in (related):

https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9329 - Per-alarm options
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14429

Or, search for alarm in bugzilla - there's a few hundred in there (probably a 
few duplicates).

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-03 Thread ftlight

Thanks, Phil; I've added a comment as you suggested, and CCd myself on
all three of the bugs.

Bill


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-03 Thread Phil Meyer
Thanks, Phil; I've added a comment as you suggested, and CCd myself on
all three of the bugs.

The most important thing is to vote for the bug(s).  This makes it more likely 
to be implemented.

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[SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-02 Thread ftlight

Running latest nightly 7.5 embedded, Radio firmware 8594.

It seems that those of use who use the alarms as a scheduler have been
forgotten.

The alarm pop-up window, which I thought was supposed to have a timeout
(or not appear at all) if the alarm duration was set to zero, stays
displayed forever.

And I see no way to turn of the the new feature to play the alarm
through the radio's internal speaker even if a cable is plugged into the
headphone jack.

I have the headphone output connected to an amplifier and speakers to
play my background music.  Now when the alarm triggers and the program
changes, I have to go over to the Radio and hit the left arrow to
disable the alarm screen and restore the headphone output.

Are these features going to be configurable soon?  Or have I missed
an announcement?

Bill


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-02 Thread bluegaspode

Hhmm - I'm afraid both was on intention.

The alarm was meant to be an alarm (that has to be acknowlegded) and
that one could use this feature as a scheduler (by setting an invalid
timeout value) in the past was more or less an accident/fortune.

Also that you use the headphone out as a line-out might work under
certain circumstances, but actually isn't a supported feature of the
radio (so also you were just lucky before).

As there are no official design specifications  the only reference is
the feature set in the adverts (where I can read of an alarm function,
but not a music scheduling function).

Of course all this is just my opinion - and I'll keep my fingers
crossed that logitech declares your wishes as a feature and makes all
this configurable.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-02 Thread bluegaspode

ftlight;521987 Wrote: 
 And surely diverting the alarm to the internal speaker could easily be
 made user configurable?
 Bill

Yeah. It's just work :)
Also easy.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-02 Thread Phil Meyer
The alarm was meant to be an alarm (that has to be acknowlegded) and
that one could use this feature as a scheduler (by setting an invalid
timeout value) in the past was more or less an accident/fortune.

It was no accident that there wasn't a confirmation popup dialog that got in 
the way of showing useful information on the screen.  If anything, I think it 
was an accident that the new Radio alarm clock device doesn't feature a 
snooze button, and thus screen/control panel hand/eye coordination required to 
access snooze function, and thus confirmation has become mandatory rather than 
optional.

The issue is more than just use alarm as a scheduler.  It's equally about 
presentation when used as an alarm clock (simplistic usage scenario).

The configuration screen currently still allows alarm timeout=0, which is a bit 
odd if it doesn't stop the popup window from appearing (I haven't tried 
recently; gave up using Radio alarms).  After all, if the Radio honour the 
alarm timeout setting, after n minutes the window should disappear and music 
stop.  If n = 0, does that mean it immediately times out, which is the same 
as disabling the alarm?

It was useful functionality that has (hopefully temporarily) been dropped from 
new new players.  Fortunately it only affects new devices; so we can still use 
a SB Classic player as a useful alarm clock.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Alarm Functionality

2010-03-02 Thread bluegaspode

Philip Meyer;522054 Wrote: 
 The configuration screen currently still allows alarm timeout=0, which
 is a bit odd if it doesn't stop the popup window from appearing (I
 haven't tried recently; gave up using Radio alarms).  After all, if the
 Radio honour the alarm timeout setting, after n minutes the window
 should disappear and music stop.  If n = 0, does that mean it
 immediately times out, which is the same as disabling the alarm?

Alarm timeout = 0 for me still is an 'invalid' setting because its
meaning is ambigious - so I wouldn't put ANY trust in it to keeps its
behaviour between software versions.

It could mean:
- stop the alarm after 0 minutes (i.e. instantly = pretty useless, but
correct interpretation)
- don't stop the alarm after all (i.e. disable the timeout feature)
- overload it with a different meaning (i.e. don't timeout and do
another 'visualization', like no alarm popup).

So the only (proper) solution is to start an enhancement request to
remove timeout=0 and create a new unambigious option.


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