Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
Alarm wasn't used during the weekend (thank God!) but this morning I had adjusted the alarm time to be 6:58 instead 07:00 - and the radio station played as it should. Somebody had suggested that exactly at 07:00 there might be too many Internet Radios attempting to connect to the same radio station at the same time. I will continue to monitor and post what happens. -- jaaen jaaen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
bluegaspode;603484 Wrote:
So no need to tune anything - the stream (or your internet-connection)
is flawed at your alarm time.
Hi,
Thanks again for looking at the log. This morning at 6.30 the alarm
worked fine. I had made no changes. I have attached the log. The only
thing that is strange is that I still get that network thread timeout
message in the log:
Code:
Jan 19 06:31:02 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:420 _pollDecodeState(server): audioState is 1
Jan 19 06:31:02 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:241 alarm_sledgehammerRearm(_pollDecodeState): server
alarm in progress - audioState is 1
Jan 19 06:31:08 squeezeplay: WARN net.thread - NetworkThread.lua:146
*network thread timeout for Task(SocketHttp {Our music_Request}(R))*
Jan 19 06:31:11 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:420 _pollDecodeState(server): audioState is 1
It is true the Radio is connected using Wlan - and the connection is
not the best - about 50% bars on the indicator. But then again - I
practically never have a problem in selecting radio station and it
plays with a few seconds.
I have now tried to change the starting of the alarm to be 6:28 instead
of 6:30 in case that it relates to a slow Internet stream exactly at
6:30 due to many Internet Radios using the stream at the same time.
I will post more progress! :-)
Jesper
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
Hi, I set the alarm on my Radio at 6:30 today 18th of January. As usual the Fallback alarm fired instead of the radio stream. Note that when I select the radio stream, for example by hitting the preset buttons - there is no problem connecting to the radio station. It usually takes just 3-4 seconds max. I have attached log file. It would be great if anybody can read anything out of the file! :-) Jesper +---+ |Filename: messages.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11186| +---+ -- jaaen jaaen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
jaaen;603350 Wrote: there is no problem connecting to the radio station. It usually takes just 3-4 seconds max. 3-4 seconds starting time is the problem in your case. According to the logs, the following happens: The Radio starts the stream at 06:29:59. It checks if there is any output at 06:30:00 (i.e. after one second) Your stream is not playing it this time = the fallback sounds. I guess you need to try another stream. You should watch (or vote) on the bugreport mentioned earlier (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16663) as this one is about making the alarm less strict (so that it maybe waits a little bit longer before it decides that the stream is not good enough to wake you up in time). -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* - -now featuring streaming to iPad!- Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
But almost no radiostations at all start within a second ? Most buffer a while before start-up even rock solid good stations ? A station must be allowed some initial buffer time. If I take radio paradise and and a stopwatch from pressing play watching buffer fill up then audio it is 6-7 seconds, this is true for most stations only radio close to me like Sveriges Radio P3 Street starts within 2 seconds. Other buffer for a even longer time ? You can not consider a stream dead until the user selectable max buffer time has timed out: default 3s max 30s or the Radio Station Timeout o to 60 seconds . It can be so that by allowing long buffertimes you get long start-up times as the player buffers untill the buffer is 100% or the buffer time is reached, whichever come first . I have the buffertime maxed out as I think it's fun to try mysterius station around the globe :) Radio Station Buffer Seconds When playing an Internet stream, the player buffers a small amount of data before beginning playback. Specify the amount of audio data to buffer, in seconds from 3 to 30. The default value is 3 seconds. If you experience stuttering audio, increasing this value may help. Radio Station Timeout You can set the length of time that Squeezebox Server will try to connect to an internet radio station or other source before giving up. Enter the amount of time, in seconds, below. -- Mnyb Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH and assorted amps SiriuS, Classe' Primare and Dynadio speakers, Contour 4 Contour Center, and Contour 1.3SE rear ch. Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) PLEASE FIX BUG 112 http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
bluegaspode;603376 Wrote: 3-4 seconds starting time is the problem in your case. According to the logs, the following happens: The Radio starts the stream at 06:29:59. It checks if there is any output at 06:30:00 (i.e. after one second) Your stream is not playing it this time = the fallback sounds. I guess you need to try another stream. You should watch (or vote) on the bugreport mentioned earlier (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16663) as this one is about making the alarm less strict (so that it maybe waits a little bit longer before it decides that the stream is not good enough to wake you up in time). Thanks for quick response. Do you know of a hack that would increase that time? -- jaaen jaaen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
Mnyb;603385 Wrote:
But almost no radiostations at all start within a second ?
Sorry, my information was misleading.
Checked logs and code again: the Radio first checks after 10seconds
after the alarm time (and then every other 10 seconds) if some stream
is playing.
From the logs (the interesting parts):
Code:
Jan 18 06:29:59 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:443 GET
/nova.mp3 HTTP/1.0^M
Jan 18 06:30:00 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:527 openAlarmWindow: called with `server` - audioState is 0
Jan 18 06:30:09 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:241 alarm_sledgehammerRearm(_pollDecodeState): server
alarm in progress - audioState is 0
Jan 18 06:30:09 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:249 alarm_sledgehammerRearm: audio not in good shape
while alarm is firing. restart timer asynchronously at 1.5secs
Jan 18 06:30:11 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:64 RTC ALARM FIRING
Jan 18 06:31:22 squeezeplay: WARN net.thread - NetworkThread.lua:146
*network thread timeout for Task(SocketHttp {Our music_Request}(R) *
06:29:59 stream is started
06:30:00 alarm windows is opened (no stream playing yet)
06:30:09 check for audio playing/fallback alarm (still no stream
playing yet)
06:30:11 fallback actually starts
06:31:22 timeout-message for the radio stream
So no need to tune anything - the stream (or your internet-connection)
is flawed at your alarm time.
Maybe this is because your internet connection is down (sort of some
dial-up time)?
This would explain, why you say the station starts within 3 seconds
when you try it later on.
I'd try some different streams. If we get the network timeout for
different streams, then we need to look into your network/router.
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Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox
+ iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* - -now featuring streaming
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Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why
not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827)
Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my
'Headphone Switcher Applet'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139)
Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio
Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
Hi, I've had the same problem with the alarm as described in this thread. I.e. in the morning my Squeezebox Radio very often uses the Fallback alarm tone instead of playing my selected internet radio stream. Only now I noticed this thread - and I have made the proposed change to the timer. Now anxiously looking forward to see if this helps tomorrow morning. :-) Has anybody else tried this? Any success? Has there been any progress in this area that I haven't noticed in some other threads? I can see that the status of the related bug http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16663 is still in progress and planned for the 7.6.0 release. Jesper -- jaaen jaaen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
I'd be very interested in your result! (Your are using BBCiPlayer streams as well ?) If it doesn't work, don't forget to share your log-files as well. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com)* - -now featuring streaming to iPad!- Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
bluegaspode;603135 Wrote: I'd be very interested in your result! (Your are using BBCiPlayer streams as well ?). No, I it is another radio station, Radio Nova finland: http://striimi.radionova.fi/radionova/fi/radionova_on_air.mp3 So, I am hoping your proposal happens to work on this too. Let's see. I will keep you posted and attach log files. Thanks for helping out. Jesper -- jaaen jaaen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
With great irony! Friday 12/11/10-alarm again set through mysb.com to play the current play list as the sound. Current play list was BBC R5 via Triode's plugin. Result-faded in fine, played for 20 seconds, dropped out for about 3 seconds, no backup alarm came one, station then came back and played faultlessly until turning off automatically after 45 minutes! Just when I was ready to grab the log, ho hum, will try again on Monday! -- wonder boy Squeezebox ex-fan boy and proud... 2x Boom 1x SB3 Just ordered SB Radio...do I need help I WISHED I HADNT!!! wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
Thursday 11/11/10-alarm again set through mysb.com to play a favourite galaxy fm via http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s25009userna...@googlemapartnerId=16 Result- 15 seconds radio followed by back up, I hit stop thene selected preset 5, radio then played without hitch for 30 minutes until I turned it of -- wonder boy Squeezebox ex-fan boy and proud... 2x Boom 1x SB3 Just ordered SB Radio...do I need help I WISHED I HADNT!!! wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
wonder boy;588699 Wrote: Thursday 11/11/10-alarm again set through mysb.com to play a favourite galaxy fm via http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s25009userna...@googlemapartnerId=16 Result- 15 seconds radio followed by back up, I hit stop thene selected preset 5, radio then played without hitch for 30 minutes until I turned it of Hi wonderboy. I'd be interested in a log from the Radio after the 30 minutes. You can retrieve it by SSHing into the Radio (use a program like WinSCP) and dowloading the file /var/log/messages. There is a difference for streams in 'alarm mode' and 'normal mode'. In 'alarm mode' every single server disconnect will trigger the fallback. In 'normal mode' one may not realize that the server is disconnecting as well (for short times), due to the playback buffer which may hide the disconnection. I want to see if you have server disconnects within the 30minutes as well. Thanks for taking the time to write down your experiences. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
Hi Thanks for your interest. Never heard of SSHing before but have downloaded WinSCP and enabled SSH in radio but so far have no idea how to connect? -- wonder boy Squeezebox ex-fan boy and proud... 2x Boom 1x SB3 Just ordered SB Radio...do I need help I WISHED I HADNT!!! wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
It should've told you ip ans Passwort, when you enabled remote access. Enter this in winscp and use scp as protocol. You should then see the folder structure of the radio. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
I tried that, I entered the ip into the host name box and password 1234 in the password box selected SCP and get the error invalid access to memory!! -- wonder boy Squeezebox ex-fan boy and proud... 2x Boom 1x SB3 Just ordered SB Radio...do I need help I WISHED I HADNT!!! wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
managed to login, added user name as root, do I need to download the log immediately after the radio has been used in the morning? -- wonder boy Squeezebox ex-fan boy and proud... 2x Boom 1x SB3 Just ordered SB Radio...do I need help I WISHED I HADNT!!! wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
the logs contains timestamps. So if you still see entries from this morning you can also download in the evening. If not it would be good after the 30mins. -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] My SBR alarm blog
Wednesday 10/11/10-alarm again set through mysb.com to play the current play list as the sound. Current play list was BBC R5 via Triode's excellent plugin. Result- 15 seconds radio followed by back up, I hit stop thene selected preset 5 which is the same as the play list, radio then played without hitch for 30 minutes until I turned it off. -- wonder boy Squeezebox ex-fan boy and proud... 2x Boom 1x SB3 Just ordered SB Radio...do I need help I WISHED I HADNT!!! wonder boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=83176 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
