[RBW] Re: Velocity continuing 650b rim production...Yay!

[George Millwood]

As Velocity is an Australian firm and forms the home grown component
of my "international" bicycle, I emailed them about the rumour of the
rims being discontinued and received this reply |-

George,

Thanks for your email.

This is 100% false.

We understand that QBP ( Quality Bicycle Products ) in the US are
looking at
having us roll there 650b rims in our Dyad extrusion instead of the
Synergy extrusion.
Apparantly they have listed on their website that the Synergy is
discontinued.  Meaning they wont stock it from now.

Providing Velocity USA orders enough for the US market, we will
continue to
manufacture them.

I currently have a hand full left here in Australia

Thanks again.

Adam

regards

George Millwood
Sydney Australia where it hit 39.4 celcius today that's 103 in
fahrenheit, humidity was 64% so it has been a good day to lie in the
shade and drink cool drinks tomorrow I'm off to Wollongong where
there's a rockpool washed by the sea.
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[RBW] Re: 650b to 700c

[rob markwardt]

Elliott Bay Cycles in Seattle had a Bleriot setup in 700c's for sale
in their shop awhile back...looked fine.

On Jan 23, 3:41 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> I've gotten them to fit on a Bleriot. Just for curiosity - never
> actually rode the bike that way.
>
> On Jan 23, 3:46 pm, sterc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Has anyone ever tried running 700c wheels with 28 or 32 mm tires on a  
> > 58cm Saluki (with appropriate sidepulls)?  No need for fenders.
>
> > Sent from my iPhone- Hide quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[R Gonet]

Dustin:

Here's what Grant says at the Riv website:

"The continuing enfeebling of the US dollar against the Yen has led us
to declare with no uncertainty that this will be the last of the
Quickbeams.

THere are 70 of them. Divided by eight sizes, that's six to ten per
size, with the sixes at the ends of the range. We've presold about 25
of them, and that doesn't include at least four that employees here
are buying, and one each that we're reserving for crash-damage
replacement stock.

It won't be the last time you see this kind of bike/frame from us, but
it will be the last of the Quickerbeamers, and we won't have a less
expensive replacement for at least a year.  The price is $1,600 for
the whole bike, minus saddle & pedals.
Grant"

Question:  Why wait for the SA-3 to come out when they still make a 3-
speed for $100?  Check out Harris Cyclery at
http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/sturmey-archer-hubs.html.  While you're
at it, why not go for 8 speeds for $170?

Disclaimer:  I'm completely sold on single speeds and internal gear
hubs and can't see any reason to go back to derailers.
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[RBW] Re: Endurance

[David Estes]

Tour of California is just around the corner... I'm gonna' be checking out
at least one stage, maybe two.

Now where did I put my Diablo costume...???


On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Bruce  wrote:

> Who, by the way, is only 39 seconds back after 4 days of of the Tour Down
> under. Not bad for an old guy.
>
> --
> *From:* David Estes 
> **
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Endurance
>
> This is in response to Lance Armstrong, right?  :-)
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[BJU]

Thanks for posting John, there will now be one less 56cm available for
anybody considering a QB from this next batch!

On Jan 22, 11:30 am, John at Rivendell  wrote:
> Shameless promotional plug from number-crunching GM:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/104
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[RBW] Re: Endurance

[Bruce]

Who, by the way, is only 39 seconds back after 4 days of of the Tour Down 
under. Not bad for an old guy.





From: David Estes 

Subject: [RBW] Re: Endurance

This is in response to Lance Armstrong, right?  :-)


  
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[RBW] Re: Endurance

[David Estes]

This is in response to Lance Armstrong, right?  :-)

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:53 AM, MichaelH  wrote:

>
> Did anyone else catch the short pice on muscles, endurance and age in
> this weeks Roadbike rider? (It's a good, free, e-subscription
> weekly).  I thought it was a very interesting piece,  and sent them
> this response...
>
>
> "Thanks for the explanation, hypothetical though it may be, why we
> loose power and speed but not endurance as we age.  As a 64 year old,
> with 35 years of experience and a 150-200 mile a week habit; it
> confirms my experience.  Last summer I remember doing an 80 mile ride
> to my sisters house in the Adirondacks, which had lots of climbing,
> including the 5 miles of 12+percent grade over White Face Mountain.
> When I arrived I felt better than when I first did that trip about 20
> years ago.  I too often get dropped right away on climbs, but if its
> long enough  I often catch up and pass some much younger riders.
>
> However, I also notice another phenomenon not mentioned in your
> piece.  As I get older my recovery time has lengthened.  While my
> endurance for these long rides remains good, what used to take a day
> of recovery now routinely takes two, and I find throughout the season
> that I often need to take three or four days off the bike to let my
> body fully recover.  Can you help us understand the mechanism that
> drives this and suggests anything, other than the obvious stuff like
> sleeping enough."
>
> peace,
> michael
> Westford, VT
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: Anyone re-raked their fork?

[rcnute]

Yup.  GB25 and Mark's Rack on a Bleriot.  Bit skittish on descents.

On Jan 23, 3:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> Have you tried front-loading it as-is?
>
> On Jan 23, 4:21 pm, rcnute  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Front loading.
>
> > On Jan 23, 5:47 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> > wrote:
>
> > > What result are you trying to achieve?
>
> > > On Jan 21, 12:19 am, rcnute  wrote:
>
> > > > I know David Rowe had his Atlantis re-raked.  Curious if anyone else
> > > > has tried this with their Riv and whether you noticed a result.
> > > > Thanks.
>
> > > > Ryan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Dustin Sharp]

I've actually done quite a bit of riding on singlespeeds and fixies.  In
fact,for a two year stretch that's all I owned. But I've never owned one in
super hilly country (and San Diego certainly qualifies).

As I recall, I could still do most of the rides I did on my geary, but I'd
just be a lot more wiped out physically at the end. Good for beefing up the
muscles when you don't have time for a long ride, I suppose.

The QB coupled with the new SA 3-speed fixed gear could be a very
interesting project ...  Wonder when that SA hub is finally going to come
out. 

Dustin Sharp
San Diego, CA


> From: Angus 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:50:47 -0800 (PST)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> 
> 
> Dustin...Quickbeams work just fine in the hills!
> 
> I purchased mine when I lived in LA (basically flat) and it worked
> great.  I promptly relocated to East Texas (basically hilly), thought
> I wouldn't be using the Quickbeam much, and it still works great.  I
> ride it a lot.  Pedal up hillzoom down hill...repeat.
> 
> The silver will look nice.  :-)
> 
> Angus
> 
> On Jan 22, 3:58 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
>> I've always wanted on of these.  Kinda hard to justify one now that I am in
>> hilly San Diego.  I needs me gears!
>> 
>> Dustin
>> 
>> 
>> 



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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Dustin Sharp]

Last for '09, right?  Not the last as in LAST EVER?

Dustin


> From: R Gonet 
> Reply-To: 
> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:17:25 -0800 (PST)
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> 
> 
> According to the Riv HQ website, the present run of QB's is the last.
> 
> On Jan 23, 5:02 pm, JL  wrote:
>> For those wanting to lessen the stand over height of a quickbeam by
>> doing a 650b conversion should be aware then the functional difference
>> is not that great.  Depending on tire choice the 650b conversion
>> knocks the height down by maybe one "size".  Also, as people mentioned
>> the brakes might not work unless repositioned.  Wouldn't it be nice to
>> have a run of 47, 50 and 52cm models designed for 650b wheels?
> > 
> 



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[RBW] Re: 650b to 700c

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

I've gotten them to fit on a Bleriot. Just for curiosity - never
actually rode the bike that way.

On Jan 23, 3:46 pm, sterc...@gmail.com wrote:
> Has anyone ever tried running 700c wheels with 28 or 32 mm tires on a  
> 58cm Saluki (with appropriate sidepulls)?  No need for fenders.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[RBW] Re: Anyone re-raked their fork?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

Have you tried front-loading it as-is?

On Jan 23, 4:21 pm, rcnute  wrote:
> Front loading.
>
> On Jan 23, 5:47 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
> wrote:
>
> > What result are you trying to achieve?
>
> > On Jan 21, 12:19 am, rcnute  wrote:
>
> > > I know David Rowe had his Atlantis re-raked.  Curious if anyone else
> > > has tried this with their Riv and whether you noticed a result.
> > > Thanks.
>
> > > Ryan- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[R Gonet]

According to the Riv HQ website, the present run of QB's is the last.

On Jan 23, 5:02 pm, JL  wrote:
> For those wanting to lessen the stand over height of a quickbeam by
> doing a 650b conversion should be aware then the functional difference
> is not that great.  Depending on tire choice the 650b conversion
> knocks the height down by maybe one "size".  Also, as people mentioned
> the brakes might not work unless repositioned.  Wouldn't it be nice to
> have a run of 47, 50 and 52cm models designed for 650b wheels?
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[RBW] Re: Anyone re-raked their fork?

[rcnute]

Front loading.

On Jan 23, 5:47 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
> What result are you trying to achieve?
>
> On Jan 21, 12:19 am, rcnute  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I know David Rowe had his Atlantis re-raked.  Curious if anyone else
> > has tried this with their Riv and whether you noticed a result.
> > Thanks.
>
> > Ryan- Hide quoted text -
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[RBW] Love the new splash page photos

[Rick Smith]

I'm enjoying flicking through the Rivendell home page seeing the new
black and white photos added recently.

One bike has a Smythe Boxy Bag on the FRONT rack... And it's packed to
the gills.
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[JL]

For those wanting to lessen the stand over height of a quickbeam by
doing a 650b conversion should be aware then the functional difference
is not that great.  Depending on tire choice the 650b conversion
knocks the height down by maybe one "size".  Also, as people mentioned
the brakes might not work unless repositioned.  Wouldn't it be nice to
have a run of 47, 50 and 52cm models designed for 650b wheels?


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[RBW] 650b to 700c

[stercori]

Has anyone ever tried running 700c wheels with 28 or 32 mm tires on a  
58cm Saluki (with appropriate sidepulls)?  No need for fenders.

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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[Gino Zahnd]

I personally know a person who re-raked his Atlantis fork with
questionable to no results. This person rides extremely long events,
and ultimately his conclusion on the experiment was: Meh. It didn't do
anything.  Eventually he had a new fork built, and it seems to have
changed the handling with a large front-only load. But wheel flop is
still a factor because the headtube is slack.

That said, he had a different rando-specific bike built, and it is
still on the higher side of trail figures at 57mm. And it carries a
handlebar bag perfectly fine. So is low trail really the be-all
end-all thing to focus on?  Methinks not.

As Cyclofiend stated, there are FAR more factors to a bike's handling
than just the fork rake. And if you're looking at low trail as The
Thing That Will Help, you can't look at it without also taking into
consideration headtube angle, tire size, what size loads you generally
carry, where you carry them, etc.

I ride brevets on a Saluki (
http://flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2221488837/ ) with a medium sized
Inujirushi handlebar bag, and I don't have problems. I can ride no
handed in just about any condition other than uphill at <10mph. But
really, who climbs without their hands on the bars? That isn't
efficient.  Oh, and heavy cross winds seem to bite me with a bar bag
up front.  I've never ridden a low trail bike, so I can't compare the
uphill-no-hands or crosswind factors.

So to answer your philosophical question, my opinion is that you'd be
taking a bike designed for certain types of riding, and trying to make
it something that it is not. It isn't designed for that one very
specific type of load carrying, and anything you do to it is less than
ideal because you're only looking at one of many factors.

Gino

(sorry, Jim, about continuing this thread)




On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Larry Powers  wrote:
> I randonneur on a Rambouillet with a large Berthoud handlebar bag.  Most of
> the time there are no issues with this but when I am tired and climbing
> steep hills I can notice the affect of the bag.  For this reason and because
> I would also be able to run bigger tires with fenders, I have toyed with
> getting a new fork for the bike.  If I did would this still be a Riv
> Rambouillet?  Riv/Grant intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying
> one of their bikes to a low trail bike goes against their philosophy and In
> my mind creates a bike that is no longer a Rivendell.
>
> This is merely a philisophical question I am pondering while at work.  Many
> people love to tinker and there is nothing wrong with that.  When my
> beautiful orange Rambouillet finally needs a paint job I may decide to
> modify it by changing the fork and adding canti studs but when I do I am not
> sure that I can say it is a Rivendell.
>
> Larry Powers
>
> "just when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and does
> a double back flip" - John Hiatt
>
>
>
> 
> Hotmail(R) goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. See how.
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Gino Zahnd]

Keep in mind though, this is going from 650b to 700c. It's simple to
slide the pads upward.

As others have said, it is questionable, or likely not possible, to go
from a 700c-designed frame to 650b with cantis or v-brakes.
Sidepulls/centerpulls, no problem though.


On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> The Paul Moto BMX brakes allow for even more vertical adjustment and have
> allowed people to go between the two wheel sizes.One example is Gino Zahnd's
> Rawland Sogn that he uses both wheel sizes on.
>
> Joe
>
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[RBW] Re: Endurance

[Doug Peterson]

Check out "Bike for Life - How to Ride to 100" by Roy Wallack & Bill
Katovsky.  It's got an incredible level of detail.  I'm just working thru it
now & find it quite on target.  
FWIW, I'll be 59 in a couple of weeks & most of my touring buds are over 50,
with the oldest celebrating his 80th in March, with an 80k ride.  

Doug "...as long as I can turn the pedals they can't bury me..."P

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Did anyone else catch the short pice on muscles, endurance and age in
this weeks Roadbike rider? (It's a good, free, e-subscription
weekly).  I thought it was a very interesting piece,  and sent them
this response...


"Thanks for the explanation, hypothetical though it may be, why we
loose power and speed but not endurance as we age.  As a 64 year old,
with 35 years of experience and a 150-200 mile a week habit; it
confirms my experience.  Last summer I remember doing an 80 mile ride
to my sisters house in the Adirondacks, which had lots of climbing,
including the 5 miles of 12+percent grade over White Face Mountain.
When I arrived I felt better than when I first did that trip about 20
years ago.  I too often get dropped right away on climbs, but if its
long enough  I often catch up and pass some much younger riders.

However, I also notice another phenomenon not mentioned in your
piece.  As I get older my recovery time has lengthened.  While my
endurance for these long rides remains good, what used to take a day
of recovery now routinely takes two, and I find throughout the season
that I often need to take three or four days off the bike to let my
body fully recover.  Can you help us understand the mechanism that
drives this and suggests anything, other than the obvious stuff like
sleeping enough."

peace,
michael
Westford, VT




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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[Frederick, Steve]

Not only would it still be a Riv, it would be your Riv, uniquely and subtly 
modified to suit you even better... 

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Subject: [RBW] If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?


I randonneur on a Rambouillet with a large Berthoud handlebar bag.  Most of the 
time there are no issues with this but when I am tired and climbing steep hills 
I can notice the affect of the bag.  For this reason and because I would also 
be able to run bigger tires with fenders, I have toyed with getting a new fork 
for the bike.  If I did would this still be a Riv Rambouillet?  Riv/Grant 
intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying one of their bikes to a low 
trail bike goes against their philosophy and In my mind creates a bike that is 
no longer a Rivendell.
 
This is merely a philisophical question I am pondering while at work.  Many 
people love to tinker and there is nothing wrong with that.  When my beautiful 
orange Rambouillet finally needs a paint job I may decide to modify it by 
changing the fork and adding canti studs but when I do I am not sure that I can 
say it is a Rivendell.

Larry Powers 
 
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[RBW] Re: odd wheels - help to identify?

[fenderbender]

The original Roval wheels were the first with aero spokes and hidden
nipples and also had a for that time revolutionary 18 front, 24 rear
spoke count.
Consequently  these wheels were quite expensive but sold well as they
were popular amongst the pro's in the late 80's.

I received a front wheel in a trade a while back. In search for a rear
wheel I was offered a almost unused set. I might fit these to a -94
Daccordi with a 7sp freewheel and 8sp Ergo shifters. Not sure if I'm
up for task of resurrect my skills in the noble art of fitting tub's
though so I might put them up for sale.
Same type as fitted to Peter Gilbert's (Cane Creek?) Bruce Gordon:
http://velomoo.blogspot.com/2008/06/cirque-08.html

Wheels and spares appear on eBay quite regularly. The seller of this
24" front wheel claim it once belonged to Chris Boardman:
http://cgi.ebay.com/24-FRONT-WHEEL-ROVAL-HUB-CONCEALED-SPOKE-NIPPLES_W0QQitemZ220349751662QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item220349751662&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Has been re-listed a couple of times as the market dried out after UCI
outlawed the use of funny bikes. Another set but missing a spoke:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ROVAL-Road-Bike-Tubular-Wheelset_W0QQitemZ370149045644QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCycling_Parts_Accessories?hash=item370149045644&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

More pictures:
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/Roval.htm
http://revver.com/video/160368/classic-roval-bicycle-wheels-on-ebay-item-160081745325/

On 22 Jan, 23:20, tarik saleh  wrote:
> Beth,
>
> As you probably figured out by now, everyone is right. Roval is an old
> brand that made funky racing wheels. They went under, specialized
> bought the name and uses it as their house brand wheels.  You have the
> original ones. They were pretty light race wheels. I am not sure if
> there is anything special outside of the low spoke count aero rim
> bladed spoke genre. The hubs were cool. I think they came in the full
> complement of funny bike wheel sizes (700c, 650c, 24") I can't
> remember about the bearings either.
>
> Tarik
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM, b hamon  wrote:
> > A pair of wheels has come to me and I cannot identify them.
>
> > Hubs are made by a company called "Roval". They appear to have sealed
> > bearings (though I can't be sure because I haven't opened them yet).
> > Direct-pull, flat-bladed spokes. Front wheel is radially-laced with 18
> > spokes and rear is 1x-laced with 32.
> > Rims are sew-up, an odd cross between box and deep-v. Freewheel hub; rear
> > wheel  looks offset just enough for 5 cogs. No maker ID on rim.
> > They're weird and funky in an esoteric old-school sorta way. Does anyone
> > know anything about these?
> > Thanks --Beth
>
> >http://bikelovejones.livejournal.com
> >http://veloquent.blogspot.com
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: well used Nitto Tech. Dlx. 10cm

[Doug Van Cleve]

Hey Angus,

Thanks for the offer.  How much shorter is the quill on a Pearl?  Perhaps
the better question is how far from the min. insert line to the bottom of
the forward extension?  So far no offers for a Tech Dlx...

Regards, Doug

P.S.  The powdercoater said he has had great luck doing stems and that he
goes light on the part that will be in the steerer.


On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 3:33 AM, Angus  wrote:

>
> Doug,
>
> You will probably need to leave the part of the stem that goes inside
> the steerer tube unpowdercoated.  With the additional thickness of the
> powder coating (which can be quite thick) it may not fit anymore.
>
> I have a well used Nitto Pearl 10cm if you are interested...
>
> Angus
>
> On Jan 22, 11:04 pm, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
> > Howdy folks.
> >
> > There is a guy that powder coats stuff cheap nearby, and I am curious
> about
> > how well an alloy quill stem would turn out.  Rather than risk a
> basically
> > new Nitto that I have now, I would like to find one that is well used but
> > not too abused.  I figure I can sand out some scratches on the quill and
> it
> > should look as good as new after the powder coat.  Anybody have such a
> stem,
> > a Tech. Dlx. in 10cm extension?
> >
> > Thanks, Doug
> >
> > P.S.  I want a black stem in case you're curious :^)
>

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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Joe Bartoe]

You're probably correct on that. Check out the picture of Gino's brake set-up 
with the 650b tires:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/2893311923/in/set-72157607364174687/

You can see that there lots of room for upward adjustment for a 700C tire, but 
may not be much downward adjustment.

Joe

> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:27:53 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> From: jeremy.t...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Yes, but the Sogn comes with the studs already set for 650b, then the
> pads are moved up the brake to accommodate a 700c wheel...I'm pretty
> sure they wouldn't adjust down far enough for a 700c-->650b conversion
> without moving the brake studs.
> 
> Sturmey-Archer is giving a March release date for the S3X.  I'm
> excited!  My question iswill it have "neutral'?
> 
> On Jan 23, 7:01 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> > The Paul Moto BMX brakes allow for even more vertical adjustment and have 
> > allowed people to go between the two wheel sizes.One example is Gino 
> > Zahnd's Rawland Sogn that he uses both wheel sizes on.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:32:50 -0500
> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> > > From: skvi...@gmail.com
> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> >
> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Frederick, Steve
> > >  wrote:
> >
> > > > It's a great looking bike, for sure.  Folks interested in trying to 
> > > > 650b the QB should be aware that Ron paid to have the brake studs moved 
> > > > and a repaint...it sounds like Rich was able to work with the existing 
> > > > position, though--anyone know what brakes he used?
> >
> > > I noticed last night that the paul motolite v-brakes appear to allow
> > > vertical adjustment of the brake pad. I don't know if they allow
> > > enough to compensate for 700>650b conversion but it's something I'd be
> > > curious about.
> >
> > > -sv
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Esteban]

The green with the creme headtube does indeed look great.  Might be a
nice way to "update" your bike if you covet something new...

I agree with Jeremy about the seeming impossibility of moving down
from 700c to 650b with adjustable brakes.  I have my eyes on those
moto BMXs, though.

Neutral would be great, although I don't think its in the design.
Reminds me of an old pre-war Phillips I have - L-N-H on the top-tube
"stick" shift.

On Jan 23, 9:27 am, Jeremy Till  wrote:
> Yes, but the Sogn comes with the studs already set for 650b, then the
> pads are moved up the brake to accommodate a 700c wheel...I'm pretty
> sure they wouldn't adjust down far enough for a 700c-->650b conversion
> without moving the brake studs.
>
> Sturmey-Archer is giving a March release date for the S3X.  I'm
> excited!  My question iswill it have "neutral'?
>
> On Jan 23, 7:01 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > The Paul Moto BMX brakes allow for even more vertical adjustment and have 
> > allowed people to go between the two wheel sizes.One example is Gino 
> > Zahnd's Rawland Sogn that he uses both wheel sizes on.
>
> > Joe
>
> > > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:32:50 -0500
> > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> > > From: skvi...@gmail.com
> > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Frederick, Steve
> > >  wrote:
>
> > > > It's a great looking bike, for sure.  Folks interested in trying to 
> > > > 650b the QB should be aware that Ron paid to have the brake studs moved 
> > > > and a repaint...it sounds like Rich was able to work with the existing 
> > > > position, though--anyone know what brakes he used?
>
> > > I noticed last night that the paul motolite v-brakes appear to allow
> > > vertical adjustment of the brake pad. I don't know if they allow
> > > enough to compensate for 700>650b conversion but it's something I'd be
> > > curious about.
>
> > > -sv
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Jeremy Till]

Yes, but the Sogn comes with the studs already set for 650b, then the
pads are moved up the brake to accommodate a 700c wheel...I'm pretty
sure they wouldn't adjust down far enough for a 700c-->650b conversion
without moving the brake studs.

Sturmey-Archer is giving a March release date for the S3X.  I'm
excited!  My question iswill it have "neutral'?

On Jan 23, 7:01 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> The Paul Moto BMX brakes allow for even more vertical adjustment and have 
> allowed people to go between the two wheel sizes.One example is Gino Zahnd's 
> Rawland Sogn that he uses both wheel sizes on.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:32:50 -0500
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> > From: skvi...@gmail.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Frederick, Steve
> >  wrote:
>
> > > It's a great looking bike, for sure.  Folks interested in trying to 650b 
> > > the QB should be aware that Ron paid to have the brake studs moved and a 
> > > repaint...it sounds like Rich was able to work with the existing 
> > > position, though--anyone know what brakes he used?
>
> > I noticed last night that the paul motolite v-brakes appear to allow
> > vertical adjustment of the brake pad. I don't know if they allow
> > enough to compensate for 700>650b conversion but it's something I'd be
> > curious about.
>
> > -sv
>
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[RBW] Re: Velocity continuing 650b rim production...Yay!

[fenderbender]

Hey Brad, wish you worked at my LBS! ;)

On 22 Jan, 18:29, jinxed  wrote:
> John,
>
> I wouldn't sweat it. The information you received is an unfortunate
> side of the bike industry. Many of the bike shops (employees) out
> there seem to operate on the belief that if it's not in the Quality
> Bicycle Products catalog it doesn't exist. And when QBP decides not to
> carry something, their online ordering windows show the item as
> discontinued.
>
> I've been working in shops on and off for the better part of 15 years
> and it never seems to change. Many times employees are only shown one
> option for ordering and therefore never venture outside of that, or
> just don't even know they can. Sometimes the shop owner won't allow
> ordering outside of places like Quality and J&B because they have
> established credit lines and or terms. Problem is SO many times the
> items wanted are out of stock, back-ordered, or discontinued. So
> instead of picking up the phone and calling Velocity, or finding
> another distributer, you get the "sorry dude, discontinued". Our shop
> is extremely married to the Quality/JB ordering and only like to place
> orders when there is enough to qualify for shipping discounts. So
> regardless if I need a part today, I might have to wait 2 weeks.
> Consequently I do a lot of shopping outside our store.
>
> It is a real let down to see some of the attitude that exists in some
> shops. I grind my teeth when I see one of our employees blow off
> something and not dig deeper. I will do my best to scour all of our
> sources and figure out a way to make it work for the customer and the
> shop. Yea, sometimes to place a special order for one item will come
> with a surcharge, but as long as the customer is aware and agrees,
> then make it happen! One of the things I love about bicycles is the
> innovation of it all. Even if I am not into their aspect of cycling
> (ie recumbents), I am still eager to figure out a way to do, get,
> build, modify whatever they want. It's a bike!!
>
> I have a rule of thumb to gauge a shop by. Will they mix Campy and
> Shimano if asked? Or do they believe that will cause the fabric of
> time and space to fold in on itself? If the latter, I don't expect too
> much.
>
> Anyway, that was a long winded reply. I had my dander up about this
> exact same thing with our shop not looking past their noses when a
> customer asked about 650b tires. "Sorry dude" ugh
>
> Brad
>
> On Jan 22, 9:40 am, John McMurry  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 22, 10:23 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
>
> >  wrote:
> > > This was what Velocity told me:
> > > "That is not true at all. QBP is not carrying the 650 synergy anymore
> > > but
> > > there is no way we are gonna stop making them."
>
> > Yes.  Again, to all of you who I freaked out with this false alarm, my
> > sincere apologies.
>
> > It's pretty clear that Velocity will continue to make 650b rims for
> > now.
>
> > It's also pretty clear that my sources of information need to be
> > improved.
>
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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[Esteban]

I toyed around with low trail - and now I just want to get on the bike
as it is and ride it.  If it handles a little funny with a heavy front
load, well, so be it.For me, Grant's design works great.  With a
Wald basket full of 25lbs, I just use two hands.  You can always try a
different fork and switch it out when you want.

On Jan 23, 8:32 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 1/23/09 6:51 AM, Larry Powers at lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Riv/Grant intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying one of their 
> > bikes
> > to a low trail bike goes against their philosophy and In my mind creates a
> > bike that is no longer a Rivendell.
>
> My strong belief is that Grant builds the bikes that perform the way he
> likes, and they happen to have high trail.
>
> - J
>
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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[fenderbender]

Not sure how you mount your bag currently. But if you have it mounted
to a bracket on the handlebars it might better to reposition the bag
instead. The key is to get the weight centered over or slightly behind
the hub. With a small front rack you should be able to position it
closer to the steer tube a reduce wheel flopping. Just a thought.

On 23 Jan, 17:32, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 1/23/09 6:51 AM, Larry Powers at lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Riv/Grant intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying one of their 
> > bikes
> > to a low trail bike goes against their philosophy and In my mind creates a
> > bike that is no longer a Rivendell.
>
> My strong belief is that Grant builds the bikes that perform the way he
> likes, and they happen to have high trail.
>
> - J
>
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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[CycloFiend]

on 1/23/09 6:51 AM, Larry Powers at lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Riv/Grant intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying one of their bikes
> to a low trail bike goes against their philosophy and In my mind creates a
> bike that is no longer a Rivendell.

My strong belief is that Grant builds the bikes that perform the way he
likes, and they happen to have high trail.
 
- J 

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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[CycloFiend]

on 1/23/09 6:51 AM, Larry Powers at lapower...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I randonneur on a Rambouillet with a large Berthoud handlebar bag.  Most of
> the time there are no issues with this but when I am tired and climbing steep
> hills I can notice the affect of the bag.  For this reason and because I would
> also be able to run bigger tires with fenders, I have toyed with getting a new
> fork for the bike.  If I did would this still be a Riv Rambouillet?  Riv/Grant
> intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying one of their bikes to a low
> trail bike goes against their philosophy and In my mind creates a bike that is
> no longer a Rivendell.
>  
> This is merely a philisophical question I am pondering while at work.  Many
> people love to tinker and there is nothing wrong with that.  When my beautiful
> orange Rambouillet finally needs a paint job I may decide to modify it by
> changing the fork and adding canti studs but when I do I am not sure that I
> can say it is a Rivendell.

I worry a little that this has the potential to become one of those "winter"
theoretical arguments. ;^)  Among other lists, trail theory has become a bit
divisive.

It seems that some people feel that fork rake is the only determining factor
in performance. (Personally, I doubt that sincerely - there are just too
many other variables in frame design.) This seems to be influenced by the
mainstream cycling aftermarket fork market, which is quite significant. The
fact that most of the bikes for which those are marketed are largely similar
in dimensions, despite the wide variety of manufacturer claims and paint
jobs.

Specific to your question, for me, it seems that adding a different fork
would be the same as chopping the chainstays to shorten the wheelbase. It's
essentially a "hot rod" mod, making the Rivendell you started with similar
to the Model A that became the Roadster. (And I'm not making the analogy
based on speed differences between the two.)

They would be related, but they would be different bicycles. You certainly
couldn't expect someone who has a similar bike with original spec's to hop
on and not notice a difference.

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[RBW] Re: If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[Bruce]

When you buy a Waterford, you can order it with a steel Waterford fork, or a 
Reynolds carbon fork or other after market model. They still decal it Waterford 
on the down tube and you tell people you own a Waterford. They make Rivendells 
there too btw.  So why would changing the fork make your RBW not an RBW? Why is 
running my Saluki with a Campy triple any less RBW than the Sugino XD you see 
on all the Riv website pics?  I suppose it's what your perception is, after all 
is said and done.



From: Larry Powers 


, I have toyed with getting a new fork for the bike.  If I did would this still 
be a Riv Rambouillet? 



  
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[RBW] Endurance

[MichaelH]

Did anyone else catch the short pice on muscles, endurance and age in
this weeks Roadbike rider? (It's a good, free, e-subscription
weekly).  I thought it was a very interesting piece,  and sent them
this response...


"Thanks for the explanation, hypothetical though it may be, why we
loose power and speed but not endurance as we age.  As a 64 year old,
with 35 years of experience and a 150-200 mile a week habit; it
confirms my experience.  Last summer I remember doing an 80 mile ride
to my sisters house in the Adirondacks, which had lots of climbing,
including the 5 miles of 12+percent grade over White Face Mountain.
When I arrived I felt better than when I first did that trip about 20
years ago.  I too often get dropped right away on climbs, but if its
long enough  I often catch up and pass some much younger riders.

However, I also notice another phenomenon not mentioned in your
piece.  As I get older my recovery time has lengthened.  While my
endurance for these long rides remains good, what used to take a day
of recovery now routinely takes two, and I find throughout the season
that I often need to take three or four days off the bike to let my
body fully recover.  Can you help us understand the mechanism that
drives this and suggests anything, other than the obvious stuff like
sleeping enough."

peace,
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet, rear brake cable hanger

[MichaelH]

I'm a big fan of paul's brakes, so I can understand your desire to use
them.  But I have run my Ram with a pair of 1980's vintage Campy
single pivot brakes(Grand Sport).  Single pivot brakes, unlike modern
dual pivots, typically sit entirely above the base of the fork crown,
so they don't crowd fenders as much.  I would think, however, that the
width of the crown will limit fender size and therefore tire size. I
doubt any combination will go above 30mm without being problematically
tight.

I've also used a hanger in the same design as the 2nd one from Loose
Screws that Jim pointed you too.  Mine was older and in steel, which
would allow for filing and still be strong enough.  So I would try a
couple of service oriented LBS and see if they have one.  The VO model
looks like it should work.  Good luck.

Michael

On Jan 22, 12:40 pm, Bob Cooper  wrote:
> The question has been asked, rightly, Why not calipers?
>
> Well, with all the brakes, rims, tires, and fenders that I have put on
> this bike, I have yet to get the fat-tires-and-fenders thing to work,
> to the degree of elegance that I imagine.
>
> So, my last-ditch effort will be to use a skinnier tire than I
> imagined and a skinner fender than I had imagined and a brake that
> “opens when it closes,” if you know what I mean: Mafac center pulls.
>
> I thought that there might be something out there already that I
> didn’t know about that would avoid my having to get out the hacksaw,
> the scrap metal and the ball-pein hammer. But lo, that looks like the
> next step.
>
> I’ll post a picture when done, with or without fenders (defeat!).
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Bob Cooper
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[RBW] If You Rerake The Fork On A Riv BIke Is It Still A Riv Bike?

[Larry Powers]

I randonneur on a Rambouillet with a large Berthoud handlebar bag.  Most of the 
time there are no issues with this but when I am tired and climbing steep hills 
I can notice the affect of the bag.  For this reason and because I would also 
be able to run bigger tires with fenders, I have toyed with getting a new fork 
for the bike.  If I did would this still be a Riv Rambouillet?  Riv/Grant 
intentionally build high trail bikes so modifying one of their bikes to a low 
trail bike goes against their philosophy and In my mind creates a bike that is 
no longer a Rivendell.
 
This is merely a philisophical question I am pondering while at work.  Many 
people love to tinker and there is nothing wrong with that.  When my beautiful 
orange Rambouillet finally needs a paint job I may decide to modify it by 
changing the fork and adding canti studs but when I do I am not sure that I can 
say it is a Rivendell.Larry Powers 
 
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Joe Bartoe]

The Paul Moto BMX brakes allow for even more vertical adjustment and have 
allowed people to go between the two wheel sizes.One example is Gino Zahnd's 
Rawland Sogn that he uses both wheel sizes on. 

Joe

> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:32:50 -0500
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> From: skvi...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Frederick, Steve
>  wrote:
> >
> > It's a great looking bike, for sure.  Folks interested in trying to 650b 
> > the QB should be aware that Ron paid to have the brake studs moved and a 
> > repaint...it sounds like Rich was able to work with the existing position, 
> > though--anyone know what brakes he used?
> >
> 
> I noticed last night that the paul motolite v-brakes appear to allow
> vertical adjustment of the brake pad. I don't know if they allow
> enough to compensate for 700>650b conversion but it's something I'd be
> curious about.
> 
> -sv
> 
> > 

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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[David Estes]

I REALLY like the cream headtube/fork on that bike!  I've considered that on
mine...


On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 5:14 AM, fenderbender  wrote:

>
> There's a 58cm Q-beam on fleabay for those who can't wait (not mine):
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190282006140&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123
>
> The discussion on the SunRace blog have been going on for a while now.
> Any idea when the S3X will be in the stores?
>
>
> On 23 Jan, 08:11, Bill Rhea  wrote:
> > How about one of the (still beta) SA fixed gear 3 speed hubs?
> >
> > http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Gotta love that they're developing a 3sp barcon shifter
> >
> > I have one of the first batch of green QB's (my first Riv) and it's
> > seen plenty of use, both commuting and on rolling terrain here on the
> > SF peninsula.  I've thought about a 3sp conversion, but haven't
> > convinced myself to do it.
> >
> > Not to get too carried away with the aesthetics, but one of these gold
> > anodized 3sp fixed hubs (and some gold VO grenouille cantis) would
> > look sweet
> >
> > -br
> >
> > On Jan 22, 6:52 pm, David Estes  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Agreed, the QB does fine in hills, it's the engine that has to be
> upgraded!
> > > If I ride my QB consistently, I'm very happy with it on hills.  If I
> just
> > > throw a leg over it once a month or so (as I usually do), not so much
> fun.
> >
> > > Not mentioned, but worthwhile thought:  They would make the perfect
> Sturmey
> > > Archer three speed conversion!
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > DE
> >
> > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Angus 
> wrote:
> >
> > > > Dustin...Quickbeams work just fine in the hills!
> >
> > > > I purchased mine when I lived in LA (basically flat) and it worked
> > > > great.  I promptly relocated to East Texas (basically hilly), thought
> > > > I wouldn't be using the Quickbeam much, and it still works great.  I
> > > > ride it a lot.  Pedal up hillzoom down hill...repeat.
> >
> > > > The silver will look nice.  :-)
> >
> > > > Angus
> >
> > > > On Jan 22, 3:58 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
> > > > > I've always wanted on of these.  Kinda hard to justify one now that
> I am
> > > > in
> > > > > hilly San Diego.  I needs me gears!
> >
> > > > > Dustin
> >
> > > > > > From: Esteban 
> > > > > > Reply-To: 
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:52:57 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
> >
> > > > > > But Ethan - its now '09!  (OT - I picked up at Tikit - now
> iBobing
> > > > > > it.)
> >
> > > > > > On Jan 22, 1:41 pm, Ethan  wrote:
> > > > > >> Ooh. wish I could get one but I spent too much on bikes in 08 (a
> very
> > > > > >> well appointed Atlantis as well as a Bike Friday folder.) Just
> not in
> > > > > >> the budget...
> >
> > > > > >> On Jan 22, 2:30 pm, John at Rivendell  wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>> Shameless promotional plug from number-crunching GM:
> >
> > > > > >>>http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/104-Hidequoted text -
> >
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > David
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> >
> > - Visa citerad text -
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[David Estes]

This is turning into quite the fun conversation, isn't it!!!  :-)

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Frederick, Steve
>  wrote:
> >
> > It's a great looking bike, for sure.  Folks interested in trying to 650b
> the QB should be aware that Ron paid to have the brake studs moved and a
> repaint...it sounds like Rich was able to work with the existing position,
> though--anyone know what brakes he used?
> >
>
> I noticed last night that the paul motolite v-brakes appear to allow
> vertical adjustment of the brake pad. I don't know if they allow
> enough to compensate for 700>650b conversion but it's something I'd be
> curious about.
>
> -sv
>
> >
>


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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Seth Vidal]

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Frederick, Steve
 wrote:
>
> It's a great looking bike, for sure.  Folks interested in trying to 650b the 
> QB should be aware that Ron paid to have the brake studs moved and a 
> repaint...it sounds like Rich was able to work with the existing position, 
> though--anyone know what brakes he used?
>

I noticed last night that the paul motolite v-brakes appear to allow
vertical adjustment of the brake pad. I don't know if they allow
enough to compensate for 700>650b conversion but it's something I'd be
curious about.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Frederick, Steve]

It's a great looking bike, for sure.  Folks interested in trying to 650b the QB 
should be aware that Ron paid to have the brake studs moved and a repaint...it 
sounds like Rich was able to work with the existing position, though--anyone 
know what brakes he used?

Steve

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> 
> When can we see pictures?

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/quickbeam/

Ron L's conversion is in the Gallery, and I had scanned the RR article from
Rich's conversion also.  Just scroll down a touch.

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RBWHQ&L.  It's really a wonderful build.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone re-raked their fork?

[Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery]

What result are you trying to achieve?

On Jan 21, 12:19 am, rcnute  wrote:
> I know David Rowe had his Atlantis re-raked.  Curious if anyone else
> has tried this with their Riv and whether you noticed a result.
> Thanks.
>
> Ryan
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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[Ray Shine]

Wow!  That is interesting.  What possibilities when that hits the LBS shelves.

Ray

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From: Bill Rhea 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:11 PM

How about one of the (still beta) SA fixed gear 3 speed hubs?

http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/

Gotta love that they're developing a 3sp barcon shifter

I have one of the first batch of green QB's (my first Riv) and it's
seen plenty of use, both commuting and on rolling terrain here on the
SF peninsula.  I've thought about a 3sp conversion, but haven't
convinced myself to do it.

Not to get too carried away with the aesthetics, but one of these gold
anodized 3sp fixed hubs (and some gold VO grenouille cantis) would
look sweet

-br

On Jan 22, 6:52 pm, David Estes  wrote:
> Agreed, the QB does fine in hills, it's the engine that has to be
upgraded!
> If I ride my QB consistently, I'm very happy with it on hills.  If I
just
> throw a leg over it once a month or so (as I usually do), not so much fun.
>
> Not mentioned, but worthwhile thought:  They would make the perfect
Sturmey
> Archer three speed conversion!
>
> Cheers,
> DE
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Angus 
wrote:
>
> > Dustin...Quickbeams work just fine in the hills!
>
> > I purchased mine when I lived in LA (basically flat) and it worked
> > great.  I promptly relocated to East Texas (basically hilly),
thought
> > I wouldn't be using the Quickbeam much, and it still works great.
 I
> > ride it a lot.  Pedal up hillzoom down hill...repeat.
>
> > The silver will look nice.  :-)
>
> > Angus
>
> > On Jan 22, 3:58 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
> > > I've always wanted on of these.  Kinda hard to justify one
now that I am
> > in
> > > hilly San Diego.  I needs me gears!
>
> > > Dustin
>
> > > > From: Esteban 
> > > > Reply-To: 
> > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:52:57 -0800 (PST)
> > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch

> > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
>
> > > > But Ethan - its now '09!  (OT - I picked up at Tikit -
now iBobing
> > > > it.)
>
> > > > On Jan 22, 1:41 pm, Ethan 
wrote:
> > > >> Ooh. wish I could get one but I spent too much on bikes
in 08 (a very
> > > >> well appointed Atlantis as well as a Bike Friday
folder.) Just not in
> > > >> the budget...
>
> > > >> On Jan 22, 2:30 pm, John at Rivendell
 wrote:
>
> > > >>> Shameless promotional plug from number-crunching
GM:
>
> > > >>>http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/104-Hide
quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA


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[RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).

[fenderbender]

There's a 58cm Q-beam on fleabay for those who can't wait (not mine):
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190282006140&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123

The discussion on the SunRace blog have been going on for a while now.
Any idea when the S3X will be in the stores?


On 23 Jan, 08:11, Bill Rhea  wrote:
> How about one of the (still beta) SA fixed gear 3 speed hubs?
>
> http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/
>
> Gotta love that they're developing a 3sp barcon shifter
>
> I have one of the first batch of green QB's (my first Riv) and it's
> seen plenty of use, both commuting and on rolling terrain here on the
> SF peninsula.  I've thought about a 3sp conversion, but haven't
> convinced myself to do it.
>
> Not to get too carried away with the aesthetics, but one of these gold
> anodized 3sp fixed hubs (and some gold VO grenouille cantis) would
> look sweet
>
> -br
>
> On Jan 22, 6:52 pm, David Estes  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Agreed, the QB does fine in hills, it's the engine that has to be upgraded!
> > If I ride my QB consistently, I'm very happy with it on hills.  If I just
> > throw a leg over it once a month or so (as I usually do), not so much fun.
>
> > Not mentioned, but worthwhile thought:  They would make the perfect Sturmey
> > Archer three speed conversion!
>
> > Cheers,
> > DE
>
> > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > Dustin...Quickbeams work just fine in the hills!
>
> > > I purchased mine when I lived in LA (basically flat) and it worked
> > > great.  I promptly relocated to East Texas (basically hilly), thought
> > > I wouldn't be using the Quickbeam much, and it still works great.  I
> > > ride it a lot.  Pedal up hillzoom down hill...repeat.
>
> > > The silver will look nice.  :-)
>
> > > Angus
>
> > > On Jan 22, 3:58 pm, Dustin Sharp  wrote:
> > > > I've always wanted on of these.  Kinda hard to justify one now that I am
> > > in
> > > > hilly San Diego.  I needs me gears!
>
> > > > Dustin
>
> > > > > From: Esteban 
> > > > > Reply-To: 
> > > > > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:52:57 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> > > > > Subject: [RBW] Re: Let There Be Quickbeam (Orders).
>
> > > > > But Ethan - its now '09!  (OT - I picked up at Tikit - now iBobing
> > > > > it.)
>
> > > > > On Jan 22, 1:41 pm, Ethan  wrote:
> > > > >> Ooh. wish I could get one but I spent too much on bikes in 08 (a very
> > > > >> well appointed Atlantis as well as a Bike Friday folder.) Just not in
> > > > >> the budget...
>
> > > > >> On Jan 22, 2:30 pm, John at Rivendell  wrote:
>
> > > > >>> Shameless promotional plug from number-crunching GM:
>
> > > > >>>http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/104-Hidequoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > David
> > Redlands, CA- Dölj citerad text -
>
> - Visa citerad text -
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[RBW] Re: Anyone re-raked their fork?

[fenderbender]

Alex Wetmore has some good info:
http://blogs.phred.org/blogs/alex_wetmore/archive/2007/04/25/reraking.aspx

On 21 Jan, 07:19, rcnute  wrote:
> I know David Rowe had his Atlantis re-raked.  Curious if anyone else
> has tried this with their Riv and whether you noticed a result.
> Thanks.
>
> Ryan
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[RBW] Re: WTB: well used Nitto Tech. Dlx. 10cm

[Angus]

Doug,

You will probably need to leave the part of the stem that goes inside
the steerer tube unpowdercoated.  With the additional thickness of the
powder coating (which can be quite thick) it may not fit anymore.

I have a well used Nitto Pearl 10cm if you are interested...

Angus

On Jan 22, 11:04 pm, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
> Howdy folks.
>
> There is a guy that powder coats stuff cheap nearby, and I am curious about
> how well an alloy quill stem would turn out.  Rather than risk a basically
> new Nitto that I have now, I would like to find one that is well used but
> not too abused.  I figure I can sand out some scratches on the quill and it
> should look as good as new after the powder coat.  Anybody have such a stem,
> a Tech. Dlx. in 10cm extension?
>
> Thanks, Doug
>
> P.S.  I want a black stem in case you're curious :^)
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