[RBW] Re: Country Bikes Needed Here, Too
And, as a further hijack, were not Ritchey frames brazed to spec at Toyo in
Osaka?
From: David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com
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On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:03 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote in
re of his custom Ritchey:
I dunno what it is that Tom Ritchey did when he came up with his frame
design, but's it is the perfect balance of nimbleness and stability.
Slightly hijacking the thread: this is the description, to the letter, of my
two ('99 and '03) Riv customs.
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I think that' fully appropriate! :-) My Custom A/R is the same way!
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[RBW] tandems
Hello All, I've been reading the postings on the sight for awhile now and this is my first time posting to the list. Lake county Riv rider, thats about 2 1/2 hours north of San Francisco. My wife and I have been riding our tandems now for 30 years and waiting for the first Rivendell tandem. She rides a Glorius with drop bars when riding on her own and I have a few to choose from. My son Adam did his first century on the back of our Jack Taylor with a kid back set up when he was 5. He's now 28 and over seas, still rides when he can. I enjoy reading the emails, keep them up. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Into Thick Air
I'm about 2/3 of the way through it. So far, (in my own opinion), its a great cycling adventure story for non-cyclists. That is one reason I get so excited about the Riv Reader to hit the mailbox. I crave a lot of detailed information about the technical aspect of cycling...the what's and how's more than the why's and when's. I'm the kind of person who can sit around and read review after review after review about components, etc...so maybe I'm a bad critic of the book. I keep hoping that I'll find an adventure book that not only describes a great adventure, but gives me the nitty gritty detail on the equipment used, etc, to put it into very palpable detail for me. Other than that, its a fun read, but I'm not looking to bike his route any time soon. ;) On Mar 15, 9:53 pm, RonaTD teddur...@sbcglobal.net wrote: A search of the group archives indicates there's been no discussion of _Into Thick Air_ by Jim Malusa. I found it a very interesting read, not just because of the bike content. Anybody else read it? td --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: tandems
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Steve Kesling akesl...@pacific.net wrote: Hello All, I've been reading the postings on the sight for awhile now and this is my first time posting to the list. Lake county Riv rider, thats about 2 1/2 hours north of San Francisco. My wife and I have been riding our tandems now for 30 years and waiting for the first Rivendell tandem. She rides a Glorius with drop bars when riding on her own and I have a few to choose from. My son Adam did his first century on the back of our Jack Taylor with a kid back set up when he was 5. He's now 28 and over seas, still rides when he can. I enjoy reading the emails, keep them up. I, too, would be interested in a rivendell tandem. I suppose for sufficient amounts of money you could convince rbw to build a custom tandem. Bilenky showed off a custom lugged tandem at nahbs this year. It was rather stunning. I know a couple of custom builders that have said they are game to try building a tandem if a customer comes along who is willing to experiment a bit. I've only been riding a tandem for a few years now and we love it. No getting separated. No long, boring, uphills all by yourself. Our tandem is fairly friendly but I'd be completely pleased with a tandem built like an atlantis or an AHH. Stout, capable of taking bigger tires and unlikely to abuse the riders. -sv --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: tandems
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Steve Kesling akesl...@pacific.net wrote: Hello All, I've been reading the postings on the sight for awhile now and this is my first time posting to the list. Lake county Riv rider, thats about 2 1/2 hours north of San Francisco. My wife and I have been riding our tandems now for 30 years and waiting for the first Rivendell tandem. She rides a Glorius with drop bars when riding on her own and I have a few to choose from. My son Adam did his first century on the back of our Jack Taylor with a kid back set up when he was 5. He's now 28 and over seas, still rides when he can. I enjoy reading the emails, keep them up. Steve I don't know what the official status of a Rivendell tandem is, i know they've been in their project hopper for some years. I can say that Saint Paul, MN (local to me) framebuilder Bob Brown has built several tandems, some of them lugged, and he does a fine job. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: tandems
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Steve Kesling akesl...@pacific.net wrote: Hello All, I've been reading the postings on the sight for awhile now and this is my first time posting to the list. Lake county Riv rider, thats about 2 1/2 hours north of San Francisco. My wife and I have been riding our tandems now for 30 years and waiting for the first Rivendell tandem. She rides a Glorius with drop bars when riding on her own and I have a few to choose from. My son Adam did his first century on the back of our Jack Taylor with a kid back set up when he was 5. He's now 28 and over seas, still rides when he can. I enjoy reading the emails, keep them up. Steve I don't know what the official status of a Rivendell tandem is, i know they've been in their project hopper for some years. I can say that Saint Paul, MN (local to me) framebuilder Bob Brown has built several tandems, some of them lugged, and he does a fine job. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ I've seen his on his site... good stuff. As for going custom, I would find a builder with a track record of building tandems. There's a bit more involved than with single bikes. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SoCal March Riv-Ride
Hey Guys, It looks like you had a great ride! I wish I had the chance to join you for a longer time than the five minutes when I caught up with you. It's always nice to see some nice looking steel bikes on the road. During my ride, I saw mostly carbon Treks, Cervelos, and a few Cannondales. I did see a real pretty Russ Denny bike, but I think it was aluminium. I hope the wind wasn't too bad on the way south. It seemed like the wind was blowing slightly north and west when I was on my way home. The custom show sounds like a good time. Will there be a meet-up? Joe Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:35:05 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal March Riv-Ride From: proto...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Well put, David. I especially enjoyed the company - and the early chaparral bloom. Conversation wandered from bicycles to geo-sciences to 20th Century Italian history. Pizza and beer, of course. Here are some more photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157615345512326/ Seriously - lots of you folks should come down for the SD Custom Bicycle Show. We'll get a little ride together (kid friendly, too), and there should be plenty of events connected to the show. _ Windows Live™: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: First Century
You might check out Co-Motion here in Eugene, Oregon. They are superb. Cheers, Kathryn On Mar 15, 12:42 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Eric, Boy it seems pretty early in the year to being doing a century, even on a tandem. Of course, here in Vt. the cycling season is just beginning for hard core riders. I've been laid up with a bum foot for six months now, so any riding sounds awfully good to me. I'd love to hear your opinions about the tandem. I've got my wife to agree, at least in principal, to buying one, but since there are no dealers in VT, it takes a lot of effort just to look at one. Montreal about 2 hours away and Boston is 3 1/2. From what I can gather on the web, Santana or Bilenkey would be my leading choices. The Santana web site has lots of words, but ends up being short on critical info, like tire capacity, fender rack attachments, etc. Also, everybody quotes prices for whole bikes, including stuff I don't think I want, like a carbon fork, and 10 speed SIS. Without any experience, it's hard to know what's really essential in a good tandem. There have been Riv rumors about a tandem for quite awhile and I'd be game for a proto, if the price wasn't stratospheric. Michael On Mar 15, 2:31 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Sorry, all ... try the photos again. They should be visible to anyone now. http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157615309647032/ Flickr is a bit confusing, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. --Ericwww.wheelsnorth.orgwww.campyonly.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Shellacking a Saddle Nose
So - I was pondering things on yesterday's ride. As the mist got a little rain-like, I watched the nose of my Brooks get increasingly damp. Got me to thinking... hmmm, I thinks. There are three rivets on the nose of that saddle, and obviously, that's where the front of the thing is pinned together. It's also the front end of the hammock, so to speak. So, there's a good bit of stress in that. Now, as I'm riding along, my hams are covering the majority of the saddle, and I'm running fenders so there's no spray from below. But, it can't make sense to let the nose get all wet and soggy by means of forward motion. I wonder if shellacking the front inch or so of the saddle would help it resist rain a bit without damaging anything. Which is pretty much the thought I've still got rattling around this morning. Anyone ever try it? Any cobblers or leatherworkers think it might make sense? Or should I just get some silicone spray? - Jim Oh! Pix from the loop - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157615330750584/ -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: First Century
I've owned an older Trek steel tandem since the mid-90's. I've ridden it with ALL kinds of people. Took on a week long organized tour one year and rode with a different person each day. Finding a good partner for riding tandem is a lot like finding a partner in general. I had a good friend ride with me one time (and the best tandem stoker I've ever ridden with) who likened it to finding a good dancing partner. Some people make wonderful companions, others can make for a miserable experience. Many a cyclist dreams of the equalizing merits of the machine. But, I've also heard them referred to as divorce makers I too dream of being able to share the riding enjoyment with someone on a tandem, they can be fun. Kiddie cranks live now on the ol' Trek with a pair of Dove bars on the back, Albatross on the front. My 9 year old seems to love to ride, perhaps some day when she gets older, we could take that cross-country tour I've always dreamt of? I know it won't be with my wife, she HATES riding tandem... She'd MUCH rather ride her single bike. It'd be great to have something with the design principles of Rivendell: tire clearance, versatile, comfortable geometry, stable, etc... Co-Motion makes a fine machine, but they seem really race- oriented. Even their Periscope models seem to have tight clearances and inadequate clearance for fenders and wide tires. My brother bought one a couple of years ago and converted it over to 650B wheels which solved the clearance issue. Handling wasn't quite right for him and I am anxious to hear how his having a custom replacement fork made might solve the handling? Eric, Congratulations in exposing someone else to a century ride. Any perspective on the experience from your stoker? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shellacking a Saddle Nose
Hey Jim, I'm not a leatherworker, but hey, I got an opinion. I'd be a bit wary of putting shellac on my Brooks. Not saying it won't do the job you're asking of it, but I don't think it's a long term solution. Shellac finishes hard, while there is a lot of give and take movement in a leather saddle. Not exactly a good match. Instead, I'd recommend this silicon based product from the leather specialists. http://tinyurl.com/d547yc Personally, I use Obenauf's LP, and when it rains I throw on a saddle bonnet with a plastic bag underneath. I don't care much for bonnets, and still haven't found the perfect one, but they work best for me in prolonging saddle life. In an effort to get rid of the under-bonnet plastic bag, I've recently seam sealed the stitches on my bonnet from RBW with some plain old tent seam sealer. Not enough rainy miles yet to endorse this method, but I letcha know later... -Jay Asheville, NC On Mar 16, 1:12 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: So - I was pondering things on yesterday's ride. As the mist got a little rain-like, I watched the nose of my Brooks get increasingly damp. Got me to thinking... hmmm, I thinks. There are three rivets on the nose of that saddle, and obviously, that's where the front of the thing is pinned together. It's also the front end of the hammock, so to speak. So, there's a good bit of stress in that. Now, as I'm riding along, my hams are covering the majority of the saddle, and I'm running fenders so there's no spray from below. But, it can't make sense to let the nose get all wet and soggy by means of forward motion. I wonder if shellacking the front inch or so of the saddle would help it resist rain a bit without damaging anything. Which is pretty much the thought I've still got rattling around this morning. Anyone ever try it? Any cobblers or leatherworkers think it might make sense? Or should I just get some silicone spray? - Jim Oh! Pix from the loop -http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157615330750584/ -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: First Century
Willie had a great time. We had done a 75-mile ride on single bikes a few months ago--he finished this ride feeling much better. Hardest part was getting him to eat enough. He ran out of gas at about 80 miles, so we pulled into a restaurant. He showed the salad bar no mercy. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Ken Yokanovich wrote: Eric, Congratulations in exposing someone else to a century ride. Any perspective on the experience from your stoker? --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Saluki Done
Absolutely gorgeous. Is that the yellow tressostar tape? How many rolls did you use for each side of the bars, and what is your method? I thought I could use one for each side, but clearly not enough. Dylan On Mar 15, 4:08 pm, John Ferguson rfj1...@yahoo.com wrote: Finally. http://www.flickr.com/photos/36397...@n06/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: SoCal March Riv-Ride
I plan to come down to SD for the show so I'm up for a ride as well. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esteban Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:35 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: SoCal March Riv-Ride Well put, David. I especially enjoyed the company - and the early chaparral bloom. Conversation wandered from bicycles to geo-sciences to 20th Century Italian history. Pizza and beer, of course. Here are some more photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/sets/72157615345512326/ Seriously - lots of you folks should come down for the SD Custom Bicycle Show. We'll get a little ride together (kid friendly, too), and there should be plenty of events connected to the show. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: tandems
On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:00 AM, David Estes wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Steve Kesling akesl...@pacific.net wrote: Hello All, I've been reading the postings on the sight for awhile now and this is my first time posting to the list. Lake county Riv rider, thats about 2 1/2 hours north of San Francisco. My wife and I have been riding our tandems now for 30 years and waiting for the first Rivendell tandem. She rides a Glorius with drop bars when riding on her own and I have a few to choose from. My son Adam did his first century on the back of our Jack Taylor with a kid back set up when he was 5. He's now 28 and over seas, still rides when he can. I enjoy reading the emails, keep them up. Steve I don't know what the official status of a Rivendell tandem is, i know they've been in their project hopper for some years. I can say that Saint Paul, MN (local to me) framebuilder Bob Brown has built several tandems, some of them lugged, and he does a fine job. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ I've seen his on his site... good stuff. As for going custom, I would find a builder with a track record of building tandems. There's a bit more involved than with single bikes. True. We have a Terry Osell (also in MN) custom-for-someone-else tandem that was built in 1984; nice machine but it just doesn't fit me. I think Terry still does some frame building but don't have contact information for him. So we bought a Burley that almost fits me but not quite. Mike Pofahl in Faribault MN builds nice tandems and has done quite a few. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Anybody get the paper reader by mail yet?
Howdy folks. I finally sent off my 4 bucks last week, just wondering if folks have received these in the mail or with an order yet. Thanks, Doug --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Anybody get the paper reader by mail yet?
I received my copy of the reader on Friday, March 13. Rich W. Huntington Beach, Ca On Mar 16, 5:42 pm, Doug Van Cleve dvancl...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy folks. I finally sent off my 4 bucks last week, just wondering if folks have received these in the mail or with an order yet. Thanks, Doug --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: First Century
Famous tandem quote: Wherever your marriage is headed, a tandem will get it there faster. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned an older Trek steel tandem since the mid-90's. I've ridden it with ALL kinds of people. Took on a week long organized tour one year and rode with a different person each day. Finding a good partner for riding tandem is a lot like finding a partner in general. I had a good friend ride with me one time (and the best tandem stoker I've ever ridden with) who likened it to finding a good dancing partner. Some people make wonderful companions, others can make for a miserable experience. Many a cyclist dreams of the equalizing merits of the machine. But, I've also heard them referred to as divorce makers I too dream of being able to share the riding enjoyment with someone on a tandem, they can be fun. Kiddie cranks live now on the ol' Trek with a pair of Dove bars on the back, Albatross on the front. My 9 year old seems to love to ride, perhaps some day when she gets older, we could take that cross-country tour I've always dreamt of? I know it won't be with my wife, she HATES riding tandem... She'd MUCH rather ride her single bike. It'd be great to have something with the design principles of Rivendell: tire clearance, versatile, comfortable geometry, stable, etc... Co-Motion makes a fine machine, but they seem really race- oriented. Even their Periscope models seem to have tight clearances and inadequate clearance for fenders and wide tires. My brother bought one a couple of years ago and converted it over to 650B wheels which solved the clearance issue. Handling wasn't quite right for him and I am anxious to hear how his having a custom replacement fork made might solve the handling? Eric, Congratulations in exposing someone else to a century ride. Any perspective on the experience from your stoker? -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Baggins Bags - Bar Tube, Li'L Loafer, Big Loafer
Tan canvas? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Lynn Skean Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:03 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] FS: Baggins Bags - Bar Tube, Li'L Loafer, Big Loafer Hi! I've a few Baggins Bags I haven't used enough to justify keeping. Nothing wrong with the bags per se; I've discovered, though, that I need larger capacities and more organization than they support. I and my clothes are basically too big. These kinds of bags really do appeal to me aesthetically and conceptually. They're simple, rugged, and attractive. They mount well. They are very water resistant. But I just can't find a niche for them. The Bar Tube and Li'L Loafer have been used about 5 times; the Big Loafer has been used two or three times. These bags are in really good shape. $150 - whole set $70 - Big Loafer $60 - Li'L Loafer $40 - Bar Tube I'll pay shipping to the contiguous 48 states. I'll ship upon receipt of payment via PayPal. If interested, please contact me offline via e-mail. I'll update here if/when they are gone. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shellacking a Saddle Nose
I use a saddle cover. Um. The one Velo-Orange sells. I rode this past Saturday in a deluge for hours and not one drop leaked through. Lynne F On Mar 16, 11:02 am, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Jim, I'm not a leatherworker, but hey, I got an opinion. I'd be a bit wary of putting shellac on my Brooks. Not saying it won't do the job you're asking of it, but I don't think it's a long term solution. Shellac finishes hard, while there is a lot of give and take movement in a leather saddle. Not exactly a good match. Instead, I'd recommend this silicon based product from the leather specialists. http://tinyurl.com/d547yc Personally, I use Obenauf's LP, and when it rains I throw on a saddle bonnet with a plastic bag underneath. I don't care much for bonnets, and still haven't found the perfect one, but they work best for me in prolonging saddle life. In an effort to get rid of the under-bonnet plastic bag, I've recently seam sealed the stitches on my bonnet from RBW with some plain old tent seam sealer. Not enough rainy miles yet to endorse this method, but I letcha know later... -Jay Asheville, NC On Mar 16, 1:12 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: So - I was pondering things on yesterday's ride. As the mist got a little rain-like, I watched the nose of my Brooks get increasingly damp. Got me to thinking... hmmm, I thinks. There are three rivets on the nose of that saddle, and obviously, that's where the front of the thing is pinned together. It's also the front end of the hammock, so to speak. So, there's a good bit of stress in that. Now, as I'm riding along, my hams are covering the majority of the saddle, and I'm running fenders so there's no spray from below. But, it can't make sense to let the nose get all wet and soggy by means of forward motion. I wonder if shellacking the front inch or so of the saddle would help it resist rain a bit without damaging anything. Which is pretty much the thought I've still got rattling around this morning. Anyone ever try it? Any cobblers or leatherworkers think it might make sense? Or should I just get some silicone spray? - Jim Oh! Pix from the loop -http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157615330750584/ -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Workshops of the iBob's Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: First Century
Works well if you and your tandem partner are married, but not to each other :-) The rider I stoke for has a Cannondale tandem (aka Clifford - big and red); we've done up to a double century on it. He bought it from friends who upgraded to a Santana. Works for us just fine. I like stoking because I don't really have to be awake in the morning; I just have to pedal. And I can sit up pretty much any time I want. On Mar 16, 7:38 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Famous tandem quote: Wherever your marriage is headed, a tandem will get it there faster. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I've owned an older Trek steel tandem since the mid-90's. I've ridden it with ALL kinds of people. Took on a week long organized tour one year and rode with a different person each day. Finding a good partner for riding tandem is a lot like finding a partner in general. I had a good friend ride with me one time (and the best tandem stoker I've ever ridden with) who likened it to finding a good dancing partner. Some people make wonderful companions, others can make for a miserable experience. Many a cyclist dreams of the equalizing merits of the machine. But, I've also heard them referred to as divorce makers I too dream of being able to share the riding enjoyment with someone on a tandem, they can be fun. Kiddie cranks live now on the ol' Trek with a pair of Dove bars on the back, Albatross on the front. My 9 year old seems to love to ride, perhaps some day when she gets older, we could take that cross-country tour I've always dreamt of? I know it won't be with my wife, she HATES riding tandem... She'd MUCH rather ride her single bike. It'd be great to have something with the design principles of Rivendell: tire clearance, versatile, comfortable geometry, stable, etc... Co-Motion makes a fine machine, but they seem really race- oriented. Even their Periscope models seem to have tight clearances and inadequate clearance for fenders and wide tires. My brother bought one a couple of years ago and converted it over to 650B wheels which solved the clearance issue. Handling wasn't quite right for him and I am anxious to hear how his having a custom replacement fork made might solve the handling? Eric, Congratulations in exposing someone else to a century ride. Any perspective on the experience from your stoker? -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shellacking a Saddle Nose
I have a pair of the covers RBW sells. They work on Selle Anatomica too From: Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:03:24 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Shellacking a Saddle Nose I use a saddle cover. Um. The one Velo-Orange sells. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Anybody get the paper reader by mail yet?
Got mine Thursday. http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/3350458346/ I'm liking the whole First Class Mail thing... Nice to see this thread once again. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Shellacking a Saddle Nose
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: So - I was pondering things on yesterday's ride. As the mist got a little rain-like, I watched the nose of my Brooks get increasingly damp. Got me to thinking... hmmm, I thinks. There are three rivets on the nose of that saddle, and obviously, that's where the front of the thing is pinned together. It's also the front end of the hammock, so to speak. So, there's a good bit of stress in that. Now, as I'm riding along, my hams are covering the majority of the saddle, and I'm running fenders so there's no spray from below. But, it can't make sense to let the nose get all wet and soggy by means of forward motion. I wonder if shellacking the front inch or so of the saddle would help it resist rain a bit without damaging anything. Which is pretty much the thought I've still got rattling around this morning. Anyone ever try it? Any cobblers or leatherworkers think it might make sense? Or should I just get some silicone spray? - Jim Oh! Pix from the loop - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157615330750584/ -- Only a good idea if you wrap it in hemp twine. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: tandems and touring
Thanks Steve. I would also say that one of the really comprehensive resources on tandems can be found at Tandem @ Hobbes - http://www.thetandemlink.com/hobbes.html - J http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/507738982/ -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light on 3/16/09 4:15 PM, Steve Kesling at akesl...@pacific.net wrote: Well looks like the tandem thing sparked some interest. Lynn and I have been riding a tandem since we were married, almost 30 years now. One of the conditions of marriage was that she would ride cross country with me since I was unable to go the inaugural year of 1976. Opps I hope she doesn't see that last statement. Our son was 18 months old when we road the first time across. We pulled him behind our Taylor tandem in an equinox trailer and were told that he was the youngest ever to go across. That was back in 1981. He was a trooper. When he was 15, we went again only this time he had to pedal himself and when my wife and I turned 50 we did a third trip across with Nancy Redpath from Imagine Tours. We have had a Santana triplet, a Santa noventa and now ride the Santana Beyond. The Jack Taylor still hangs from the ceiling with its beautiful tandem campy crankset. That bike will stay in the family forever or at least until my son inherits it. So ask away I have lots of opinions. My brother in law rides his co motion and it to is a wonderful machine. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
