[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)
Michael, this is great. Thank you for clarifying! Must digest and contemplate now... :) -Darren. On Jun 13, 5:28 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Darren, No. I am decidedly not talking about a shifting pattern where you have to keep double shifting the front and rear derailers. I am talking about simplifying the shifting pattern when you do have to shift the front derailler. At the risk of overstating what you already know... There are 4 variable that must be considered when selecting gearing. First, how wide a range do you want, second how much distance between gears are you willing to tolerate, third, how much shifting do you have to do to get from one gear to the next, and fourth, finally, what are your individual preferences amongst the first three. I can't speak at all to the last for you but can only encourage you to consider all 4 in making decisions. I have a strong preference to have a fairly consistent difference of about 10 % between gears and this eliminates the wide range cassetes like the 8 spd 12x 32 you use. I use a 9 spd. 12x27. I also have a strong preference to have a simple shifting pattern. Together, this means i am forced to make some comprimises about how wide a range I can use. When shifting between rings a difference of ten teeth will generally put the next gear one rear shift away. This works well with doubles but is too limiting for triples. So for triples I typically use 46x36x26. Doubles get more complicated. I find that a difference of 12 or 16 leaves me searching for the next gear, while a difference of 14 puts me two cogs away from the next gear. Here's my favorite set up for a double: 12 13 14 15 17 19 21 24 27 48 108 100 93 86 76 68 62 54 X 34 X 71 66 61 54 48 44 38 34 This gives a pretty big high gear, a manageable low gear for most situations and an easy shifting pattern. I can slide up or down the cog set with about 10 % between gears and when I need to shift rings, I can know that I am 2 cogs from the next gear, e.g from 54 down to 48 or 62 down to 54. A 46 X 30 looks more complicated: 12 13 14 15 17 19 21 24 27 46 104 96 89 83 73 65 59 52 x 30 x 62 58 54 48 43 39 34 30 The next gear is now three cogs away. E.G. from 59 to 54. Certainly doable, but you might want to think about it before you go that wide. Here's what a 44 X 30 looks like. 12 13 14 15 17 19 21 24 27 44 99 91 85 79 70 63 57 50 X 30 X 62 58 54 48 43 39 34 30 In this case the two cog shift is a little more than my ideal of 10%, (e. g. 50 to 43 or 54 to 63) but still perhaps acceptable. For me, I would be willing to give up one half gear at the top (99 vs 104) to get a simpler shifting pattern. Others will disagree. BTW, there are web sites that can help in calculating gear ratios, but its pretty easy to set up a spreadsheet like Numbers or Excel to do this. The formualis simplify ( Ring/cog) X 27. This is an imperfect approximation, but good enough for government work! Perfection is not reachable nor worth worrying about. Try what looks like the best trade-off for you and change it if you feel you need to. Michael On Jun 12, 3:07 am, Darren Stone dst...@bitmason.com wrote: Hi Michael. I just read up on the White VBC road crank. It's quite beautiful also. It's a possibility. Thank you. I'm not sure if I'm understanding the 44-30 logic, but if it's to give a superior shift pattern that requires regular double shifts, then I may not enjoy it. I'm shooting for a wide-range double so I get a simple-minded 95% of the time ring, rowing through my 8 cogs (12-32) in the back, with a bail-out granny ring available when necessary. Mad up/down hills being the 5% exceptions that require double shifts. Singlespeeding has clearly rotted my brain!! I embrace any gear range now and don't care about step size! Thanks for doing the math, though; I appreciate it. It caused me to work through the possibilities again. On my Saluki, a 46-12 gives me 99 g.i. (it's shod with 650A) and even loaded up I think a 30-32 should be great for climbs. -Darren. On Jun 11, 5:43 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Two suggestions. Why don't you take a look at the White VBC crank before you buy. They have a very low Q and lots of ring flexibility. Second, one problem with a difference of 16 between rings is that once you shift rings you are many cogs away from the next gear, and in fact there really isn't a good pattern when you shift rings. A difference of 14
[RBW] WTB: Baggins Panniers
Does anyone happen to have a pair of baggins panniers, or ones of similar tan canvas design, that they would like to sell? Email me off-list with your asking price, thank you! Best, erik --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)
Here's my favorite online gear chart: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html It's completely tweak-able. Any rings cogs or combos. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Linda Blair's Wheel set?
http://tinyurl.com/lrhk3q Sounds like you may need to replace the body. Above is a link to Sheldon Brown's article on Shimano cassettes and freehubs. Gets sort of complicated with early D-A hubs. Bruce wrote: Let me say first off, yes, I bought these wheels on Ebay. Anyway, they're Synergy rims laced up on some older D-A hubs. The rear is a Uniglide and has a 7 speed cassette of unknown provenance affixed. For the price paid, I really am not too upset, although the seller (who works for a bike coop and should know better) got several items wrong in his write up. When I emailed on the matter, he said, Oh, I never took them out of the box to look at them when I bought them from the prior owner. After truing the front (the rear was good) I took the bike on a shakedown today and found that the 15 cog (the 2d smallest) has a habit of freewheeling when it is used and any appreciable pressure is put on the pedals. No problems on the 17 up to the 28, and only a slight catch detected on the 12 cog. It's kind of like a neck rotating when I go uphill on the 15. Any Uniglide users out there with ideas? Do I look for another cassette? TIA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Crank/BB/spindle tips (changing triple to double)
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Here's my favorite online gear chart: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html It's completely tweak-able. Any rings cogs or combos. *And* it allows you to vary for tire size. My 559 wheels vary in diameter from 24 inches to 27 inches, depending on tire (from 22 mm Turbo to 60 mm Big Apple); this could mean a difference of as much as 14 gear inches, depending on cog and ring. Likewise, 622 wheels can vary in actual diameter from 26 1/2 to 29 1/2. It's also easy to make these in Excel. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Linda Blair's Wheel set?
I was looking at that sale the 'bay! Kinda' glad I decided that I ddin't need a new wheelset... On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Let me say first off, yes, I bought these wheels on Ebay. Anyway, they're Synergy rims laced up on some older D-A hubs. The rear is a Uniglide and has a 7 speed cassette of unknown provenance affixed. For the price paid, I really am not too upset, although the seller (who works for a bike coop and should know better) got several items wrong in his write up. When I emailed on the matter, he said, Oh, I never took them out of the box to look at them when I bought them from the prior owner. After truing the front (the rear was good) I took the bike on a shakedown today and found that the 15 cog (the 2d smallest) has a habit of freewheeling when it is used and any appreciable pressure is put on the pedals. No problems on the 17 up to the 28, and only a slight catch detected on the 12 cog. It's kind of like a neck rotating when I go uphill on the 15. Any Uniglide users out there with ideas? Do I look for another cassette? TIA -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires--going big
Go wide with pride!!! That my motto. On Jun 13, 11:33 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Go big or go home I love that saying ! I say use as wide a tire as you like and not let that thing between your ears(the brain) get in the way. It's hard to go back because wider tires are more comfortable , and face it . . more fun to ride :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires--going big
I fully agree. I found the difference in ride quality between the Ruffy Tuffy and Rol-y Pol-y to be striking. While supremely puncture resistant, the RTs have a thuddy feel. By contrast, the RPs roll way smoother. I haven't tried the JBs blues with kevlar, but I find that the JB greens (sans Kevlar) have a very similar feel to the RPs, just a little more cushy. On Jun 13, 7:00 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: I've only used the JB greens (sans Kevlar), so that may explain the smooth ride... Kevlar is an excellent insurance, but it does firm up the ride a little. - Original Message - From: Mike To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Tires--going big Yes, I've got the Araya in the front. I couldn't remember the name. The original Araya rear wheel fell apart withint two weeks. That's good to know that it'll handle a JB without problems. I've got both Pasela 32s and JB blues. Both sets of tires have been pretty well used, especially the JBs but they'll be fine for a few more rides. While I like the shape of the JBs more I think the Paselas feel a little better. Weird. On Jun 13, 2:45 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: How funny, those are the rims on my Romulus: Mavic Open Sport in the rear, and the stock Araya rim on the front. I'm running Jack Brown Blues with no problems. Like apparently everyone else who has tried the tires -- I love them. Horace. On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Mikemjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I've got the JB blues that were on my Hilsen, perhaps I'll put those on. My rear wheel is a Mavic Open Sport which I think can handle a tire as wide as a JB but the front rim appears narrower, it's the original stock wheel that came with the Rambouillet. Anyone running JBs on those rims? Any problems?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires--going big
On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 09:37 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: I fully agree. I found the difference in ride quality between the Ruffy Tuffy and Rol-y Pol-y to be striking. While supremely puncture resistant, the RTs have a thuddy feel. By contrast, the RPs roll way smoother. Those are the up- and downsides to the belt in the RT. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tires--going big
That's interesting. I've not noticed any downside to the TourGuard Pasela tires. Of course, for wide, I prefer 35 or wider in 700C. And for 26 50mm seems to be the way to go (yea Big Apples!) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 14, 4:59�pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-06-14 at 09:37 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: I fully agree. I found the difference in ride quality between the Ruffy Tuffy and Rol-y Pol-y to be striking. While supremely puncture resistant, the RTs have a thuddy feel. By contrast, the RPs roll way smoother. Those are the up- and downsides to the belt in the RT. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Logjams Other Adminny-type stuff
Hey there - I just arrived home from a week on vacation and wanted to first apologize and then update everyone on the list status. My plan had been to check in every other day or so to flush the spam attempts to the list and pass through anyone whose comments are currently moderated. Well, my cobbled-together-from-two-good-ones laptop finally frizzled and died, so despite a brief moment of optimism during my first attempt this past week, I haven't accessed the list since last Monday. It looks like a few moderated posts are in with the junk, so those are likely to show up tomorrow AM. If any legitimate post looks like it was date-specific, and we're past the time, I'll probably just delete it. The rest of the stuff should be passed through. More importantly, _IF_ you get notification that you've been banned from the list, please email me directly. There's enough spurious posts that I delete them by title, and I have made mistakes in the past. Thanks for your patience! - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Admin / RBW Owner's Bunch List --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Installing a Tubus Luna rack
I've wanted to install a narrow-profile, pannier-compatible rack like the Tubus Fly or Luna for commuting on my AHH, but was worried about fitment with that mono-stay. It seemed like a shame to let those seat stay braze-ons go to waste, and bending and cutting the mono-stay to fit was pretty intimidating. I bought a Luna from Wayne at TheTouringStore.com (who is great, by the way), and then stared at it for a couple of weeks. I considered bringing it to one of the local bike shops, but then last night I just went for it. Installation wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. The rack comes with a steel tab that you can use to bridge the aluminum mono-stay to the rear brake bolt. This tab comes slightly pre-bent, so it's easy to finish the job. I clamped it in a vice by the wide end, and pounded the narrow end to 90 degrees. Easy. I then unbolted the rear brake, removed the last aluminum spacer (behind the thin fender mount), and replaced it with the 90 degree tab.Then I mounted the rack to the second set of eyelets on the rear dropouts (using the included black aluminum spacers to avoid interfering with the fender stays), tilted the rack level, and kind of eye-balled what how much the aluminum mono-stay would have to be bent and cut. I took off about 4 inches with a hacksaw, clamped resized mono-stay in the vice, and bent it. Held it up to the rack / 90 degree tab, then clamped it in the vice again and bent it a little more. Perfect. I sanded the edges of the cut stay, installed it, and done. Not nearly as bad as I thought, and the whole process took about 1 hr. I'll post pictures later. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: New Hilsen
Hi Brian, That is one nice bike :-) Your comment that this is your first road bike after 18 years of mountain biking has made me decide to pull the trigger. What brooks model have you installed? The saddle color is a good match to your bike. Ed On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:14 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Beautiful bike and build. Only advice - give the drops a good chance before switching. You might learn to love them yet. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jun 8, 12:41�am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I've got about 100 miles on my new Metallic Copper Hilsen. �I did the final build a few weekends ago in an afternoon, and everything went together very nicely. �So far so good, but I'm getting used to drop bars and regular pedals after riding a mt. bike for the last 18 years. �The jury is still out, and I've got a set of Albatross bars waiting in the wings. �Shifting is velvet smooth with the 9-speed older Dura-Ace setup. �The Silver shifters and brakes are all they're talked up to be... It was really fun to put this bike together - I loved the frame as soon as I got it - these bikes are truly special! �Next steps for this project will be getting some fenders and rackage/baggage - this is the pacific NW after all... �BTW - weight as it stands in these pics is right around 25 lbs for those that care. �On the trail it rides like a freight train - smooth and fast. �I shaved about 5-10 minutes off my daily 10 mile one-way commute, although it's probably pure adrenaline from the big stupid grin on my face. Hilsen Pics http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/AHomerHilsenInSeattle# Brian Hanson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire
Thanks, John, for the correction. Regarding Bicycle Quarterly's tire tests, the statistical analysis of our results showed that the differences we found were real, not some artifacts of changes in conditions or in rider position. Anybody who wants to criticize the results of the tests needs to look at the statistics and figure out how they were flawed. Both the Grand Bois and the Maxy-Fasty were tested several times, and always came out the same. I am confident in our results, just as I am confident in the test results that showed that higher pressure (beyond a certain point) does not provide a worth-while increase in speed. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly 140 Lakeside Ave #C Seattle WA 98122 http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Touring New Zealand - question
The answer to your first question is yes, it is very possible. My wife and I have tourned NZ four times, twice on each Island. We've always been fully loaded, as it is an ideal country for camping (You can camp wild, camp in DOC campgrounds, or at KOA-type motercamps or holiday parks that are everywhere and usually evenly spaced for moderate length bike rides). But there are also numerous backpackers and hostels and over the years the number of motels have increased dramatically too. They are clean and nicely equiped and you'll always get a kitchenette and refrigerator with milk for your tea. Most are relatively inexpensive (at least by U.S. standards). You will be going before peak season and school holidays (at least I think so) so my guess is you won't have any trouble finding places to stay even without advanced booking. I mention the motorcamps and holiday parks because the majority of these also have simple small cabins where you can stay even if you don't have camping gear. They are inexpensive because they are usually small and you can use the toliet, shower and kitchen blocks that are for the campers. Every motorcamp and holiday park has full kitchens with refrigerators, stoves, microwaves, toasters and hot water kettles (usually there is always boiling water available for tea, but pushing a button or pulling a lever). They also have rec rooms with TVs and on our last trip most also had Internet. Are you going to the North Island or the South? It has been 20 years since I've been to the North Island, and I have heard traffic has become much worse, but I can still probably offer advice on routes if you want to contact me offline. Pete On Jun 9, 10:55 pm, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks folks. I just booked a 22 day chunk of time for late November/December via Qantas Air. Round trip from SFO is $549. I'm not sure what the deal is with flights right now, but I saw roundtrip to Paris, Germany, Ireland, etc. from California for around $450, which seems mighty cheap, relatively speaking. Now, time to figure out what to do with that 22 days. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Also get hold of Antoine at: http://ibikenz.blogspot.com/ On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:17 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: I'm considering heading to NZ for several weeks, and I'm wondering if it's possible to inn-to-inn or hostel tour. Ideally, I'd like to get away with simply a handlebar bag, and a saddlebag. If you've done this, let me know how easy/hard it is, and what you'd have done differently. Check out the New Zealand section ofhttp://www.crazyguyonabike.com -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Any riders in NC
I'm moving to a town called raeford for the first year but i should be in Raleigh after that. I will also be spending a lot of time in raleigh my first year there anyways. On Jun 7, 6:57 am, Will wpm...@gmail.com wrote: And if you are moving to the Raliegh/Durham/Chapel Hill area, there is a bike club called the Tar Wheels that rides out of Orange, Durham, Wake, Alamance, and Chatham counties (http://tarwheels.org). The club is composed of a lot of fun, adventurous, welcoming, easy-going folks with all sorts of abilities and interests. On Jun 6, 1:22 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jun 5, 5:59 pm, Kevin Pollen pollencloth...@gmail.com wrote: I am moving to North Carolina at the end of the month and i was wondering if they're were any riders out there? Also if you are there what is the weather like and how is the riding? I am looking for some people to ride with since i will be new the the area. Thanks, Kevin Currently in SF Hey Kevin, Lots of riders in NC. Big state though. Where ya headed? I live in the mountainous western side where the weather is brilliant and riding superb. For the most part we miss the notorious hot and muggy summers of the rest of the state. Winters can be quite cold (usually early on in Nov/Dec) but definitely still rideable. I use fenders pretty much year around. WNC is known for its incredible mountain biking, but the road riding is easily as good, if not better, and there are a lot of mixed terrain options, too. There is a new Riv dealer just south of Asheville in Flat Rock. If you're into the rando thing, there are 2 active groups in the state, both offering a full brevet series, one in the Greensboro/ Winston area and the other in the Raleigh area. Good mix of great people. If you're moving to WNC, Audax Atlanta is closer, and their brevet series is in the beautiful North GA mtns. I love the routes there. Here are some links that may be helpful... http://www.blueridgebicycleclub.org/http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/gr... All the best, -Jay Asheville, NC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: 650B -Grand Bois Cypres tire
In my experience, the Cypres was very prone to puncture. I had more than one flat for every 100 miles I rode with that tire. In my book, that is completely unacceptable. On the other hand, I've been riding the Hetre on my Saluki for 500 miles now, and have yet to flat, even with a good amount of mixed terrain riding in thorny Chico and Mt. Lassen/northern Sierras. Aside from the better durability, I'll also stick my neck out and say that the Hetre is hands down the most comfortable tire I've ever ridden. It's fast, quiet, and durable. If you can stomach the cost of the Hetre, they're certainly at the top of the 650b tire heap. Gino Chico, CA On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Rocky.Bondadfundamental.bicyc...@gmail.com wrote: Gosh I'm still undecided if I should get the Cypres or the Hetres for my wife's Bleriot. She mainly rides on the weekends and I want to get her nice comfy fast tires. I hear so many great reviews for both Grand Bois tires. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
