Re: [RBW] AHH with VO Porteur bars
Very nice. Have you sent these pics to Cyclofiend? From: Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 2:16:57 AM Subject: [RBW] AHH with VO Porteur bars I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009# --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] AHH with VO Porteur bars
Brian -- very cool bike! Love the wrapping job. Question about the bars: prior to wrapping the bars, did you experiment with the lever placement at all? Specifically, did you try the feel of the ride with the levers mounted back more towards the bar ends? --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: From: Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] AHH with VO Porteur bars To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 12:16 AM I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Did you think about doing bar ends on this guy? That's beautiful. Makes me think about swapping out my noodle drops when my 700c Kogswell fork comes in... On Dec 17, 3:16 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Stunning! Nice job. -- Forrest (Iowa City) On Dec 17, 2:16 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Did you re-rake the fork for front loading? ;) On Dec 17, 2:16 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Thanks Rob, Very nice setups. Pretty convincing argument as well. What is that saddlebag you have on the Bleriot? René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Have the Hetres on my Bleriot - awesome tires, nothing faster for
gravel and ruff roads. I have the V.O. Zepplins with the Dia-compe 750
center pulls ( these brakes work and look great - a great deal for the
price) and I have a V.O. Carrier front rack. It was a little beyond me
to install all this properly myself - got a great bike mechanic to do
the work and he did a great job. Good clearance with a classic
French bike look - I got exactly what I wanted in a bike setup.
On Dec 16, 6:15 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hey Rick,
Sorry, no experience with sidepulls, but I run Hetres on my Bleriot
with Paul Centerpull brakes. Gobs of clearance for fenders. Right
now I have 26 x 50 SKS fenders (which are wy wider than 50mm, BTW)
on there.
-Jay
Denver, CO
On Dec 16, 1:31 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote:
I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the
equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls?
Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on
the flicker page.
Rick.
On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm
Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow -
I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance
(less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
think big honking fenders would work as well.
More tomorrow...
On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote:
You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
-nathan
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
recently upped them to the 50mm.
-gino
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
Honjos.
Anyone have any experience?
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[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
I had seen the bars on VO's site, but never thought they would look so nice. Kind of a more affordable albatross/moustache bar. Very nice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Great job on the wrap. The cork used for a lights is a nice touch! looks familiar http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/4132266321/in/set-72157622750754829/ Great job! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Did you think about doing bar ends on this guy? Why? From his post, I am guessing Brian is a man after my heart who rightly believes DTShifters are where it is at! Wouldn't change a thing on that bike. It looks wonderful and most likely is a joy to ride. On Dec 17, 7:05 am, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Did you think about doing bar ends on this guy? That's beautiful. Makes me think about swapping out my noodle drops when my 700c Kogswell fork comes in... On Dec 17, 3:16 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009#- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Bike Stuff
Books such: The Quotable Cyclist- $5 Bike for Life $5 Pure Sweet Hell-cyclocross DVD $5 Some framed bike posters- all $20-30, for local sales only, don't want to ship these, link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/t2architect/sets/72157622884320533/ Parts: 1 pr. Paul cyclocross levers, fit 26.0 bars $65 1 Swobo wool cycling cap, as new $30 Stronglight 49D chainrings- 53t outer, 46t inner, $25 ea. Oval stem, threadless 100 mm 26.0 bars, 84/96 deg. silver, $30 Link to photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/t2architect/sets/72157604611906792/ Prices include shipping. Thanks for reading. -- T2 Oaktown, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Cool! I'm looking forward to an update after a longer ride. I've been looking hard at these bars for my Quickbeam! Thanks for posting. Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Thought about bar-ends, but wanted to try DT. Like it more so far, as I tended to bump the bar-ends. It also makes me shift less and think more :) On the question of lever placement, I left the bars bare for about a month and moved the levers around. This was where I liked them most. I didn't try bar-end levers. I thought it would feel odd. I find that it's handy having the levers in front, as I actually use them for grips when climbing. I couldn't mount these levers on the sides, as they would run into the bars - I would have to use mtb levers on the side. Brian On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: Did you think about doing bar ends on this guy? That's beautiful. Makes me think about swapping out my noodle drops when my 700c Kogswell fork comes in... On Dec 17, 3:16 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
On Dec 17, 12:20 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Not that I'm challenging you or anything, I'm just curious since your logic pretty much goes against what a lot of people have advised in response to my question. another data point: my significant other got a stick stuck in her fenders (honjos). the stick didn't break. the fender crumpled and jammed into the front wheel resulting in an accident - if she didn't ride so dreadfully slow, it probably would have been serious. I wouldn't bother putting fenders on a mtb, especially if you do any kind of technical riding or like to bomb around through the woods or on rough single track. not because of a potential accident, but I just don't see the benefit of having fenders on a dedicated mtb. fenders are for keeping the muck off of me when it rains/snows/etc. if I'm mountain biking in the muck, i'm going to get filthy, fenders or not. the bike will too. that said, we hit some pretty knarly rough stuff in VT with fendered bikes all the time with no problems other than the occasional fender adjustment. if that's the kind of mountain biking you're talking about, then by all means . .. fender it up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Eric said: Plus wanted to add the Planet Bike Cascadia fenders have built in mudflaps. They do, but unless they have re-designed them -- and quite possibly they have -- they are, as mine are, absurdly short. That actually works out well on the Monocog with its very high bb, but they would leave a lower bb exposed. they can and do wiggle from side to side off-road. They do do this, and they do grind or buzz on knobs. But so far mine haven't broken. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN Patrick from VT said: I just don't see the benefit of having fenders on a dedicated mtb. I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ and they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in mud, but I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on mtbs do a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Thanks, I am encouraged. Worse case scenario, a worthwhile experiment, and another summer tire to alternate with the Rumpkins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Stuff for sale w/price drop
Cycletex (Clif): Please contact me back channel. Lost your email. Thanks and please excuse the post everyone else.. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ and they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in mud, but I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on mtbs do a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. yeah, I use fenders on dirt roads too. and they're great for riding through puddles and slush on gentle single track and unpaved roads - do that all the time. my idea of mountain biking is probably a little different, that's all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
My question as well. I have a Kog G1 and now an amazingly beautiful Saluki - but I have gotten so used to the low trail of the Kog, that front loading on the Saluki seems to really degrade the handling. What is the general feeling about re-raking / swapping the fork on these bikes; of course it'll gain the low trail feeling, but does it degrade the handling in other ways, as these designs clearly were meant for rear loading. Even though the riv site and grant are proponents of baskets, and sure it's ridable, but the low trail front load is such a reveletory change, I figured on such a great bike if I was going to front load, that I'd want to change it to low trail. Is it doable / worth it? On Dec 17, 9:30 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Did you re-rake the fork for front loading? ;) On Dec 17, 2:16 am, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: I finally finished the porteur bar wrapping/twining/shellac on phase 2 of my AHH. I moved the shifters to the down tubes, and haven't looked back. Also have some inspired mounts of the basic Planet Bike Blazer LEDs for night commuting duty. Opinions: Bars - love the positions. My hands naturally fall at the bends and they work perfectly for my 10 mile normal ride. When I need to go more upright, I just move back. Narrow, so they are much like drop width. I can really get low by holding the fronts and resting my forearms on the swept back parts - seems to be a good tuck. The reach to the down-tube shifts hasn't been a problem, and I immediately got used to shifting w/o looking. Haven't done a long ride yet, but will update when I do. 2 watt Planet Bike Blazer - Bright enough, but not a whole lot different from the 1 watt or even the half watt when riding on city streets or semi-lit trails with ambient light. When I went up a totally dark trail, it really lit up the path, so it's plenty bright for my commute. Great blink mode, but I'm still underwhelmed overall. I think I'm one of those guys who wants the super lumens - I'm used to the bi-xenon car lights... I didn't think I'd ride this bike in the crappy wet Seattle winter months for commuting, but it's so comfy, I just have a hard time getting out the winter bike. The Jack Brown blues are still going strong - no flats. I did extract a nice piece of glass the other day when I was inspecting the tires. It never made it through, but it was a bit disconcerting. Oh well - got my frame pump finally, so I'm ready... Brian http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/PorteurSetup122009# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Our Green Sam Hillborne Shop Bike
Sorry that I promised to post photos of our Sam Hillborne shop demo bike ... and then I let it get relegated to the back burner. The pictures, which were taken about a month ago, are now online: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/ We built this bike with a little more rando attitude than our typical customer requests, but no one has complained yet. In fact, since a lot of people are used to STI shifters, that choice worked in our favor. It usually sports a VO handlebar bag as well. Just let me know if you'd like to swing by and take this bike for a ride, or if you are desperate for a Green 56cm Hillborne. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: New Ibex Wool Coat (Solace)
I have a brand new Ibex coat that doesn't fit me. It's a large. I'm a medium. The medium was too small and the large is too big, so I'm passing it along. I returned the medium and don't want to abuse their generous return policies. Color is light brown heather, the lighter or the brownish colors that you can see at the this link: http://ibex.com/shop/product/1345/7374/mens-solace-jacket It was $250. I'll take $200 (or close to it). Chris Love Asheville is it really gonna snow North Carolina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Our Green Sam Hillborne Shop Bike
Great build! I like the kickstand... what brand/model is it and where can I get one? René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Correct Bombadil size...
My 60cm Bombadil is finally finished (had too much work and family related stuff these last two weeks). I will post pictures tomorrow. However, as soon as I straddled it while building it, I realized I had significantly less standover clearance than I do on my 61cm Homer. I can still lift both wheels what appears to be around 1 inch, haven't really measured, but when I stand over the bike with both feet on the ground, I can feel the top tube way up there. The bike is currently built with Specialized El Capitan Control 2.2 front/2.0 rear tires for a full MTB experience. Since it was raining during the weekend and I was swamped with work and family, I was only able to take it out for a ride on Tuesday's commute to work via bike and Caltrain. I rode it for a total of around 8 miles split up in four legs. I'll post more details when I have more time, but my concerns with the standover clearance persisted, so I e-mailed Mark @ Rivendell and spoke with Keven today. They both feel that based on my measured PBH, the 60cm Bombadil frame is the right size, but if I feel it's too big, they will set me up with a new 56cm frame. It's great to know that they will stand by me and take care of my in this situation. Today I commuted with the Homer, and even though barely a month and a half ago it seemed like a huge frame (my conversion to the Rivendell fit philosophy), compared to the Bombadil I felt I had lots of clearance and of course, they both handle different. I'm taking the Bombadil to Rivendell tomorrow so Mark and Keven can check my fit and together, we can decide if it is indeed the right size for me, or if I'll fit best on the 56cm. Standover height on the Bombadil 60 is about 2 cm higher than on the Homer 61. Everyone agrees that you probably need a little more clearance on a mountain bike than on a road bike, but what is really the minimum clearance? Anyway, I'll update the group on the decision we take tomorrow and will submit photos of the complete bike. Going to a 56 frame will mean another wait for it to be painted (minor annoyance), but also a new wheelset from Rich, new tires, and no exchanging wheels between the Homer and the Bombadil. What is the feeling regarding standover clearance and minimum clearance? René PS.- The fender question is now on hold until the frame size issue is cleared... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Correct Bombadil size...
If you ride a 61 AHH, the 60 Bombadil should *fit*, but you're not going to have much clearance. Two to three cm is fine on a road or trail bike. They're made to ride, not stand over :-) I ride a 61-62cm Rivendell frame size and decided that a 56cm frame would probably be better for me. But I wanted it for rough off-road use and needed the clearance to get a foot down on off-camber trails. So yeah, a 60 should fit you if you, but you'll need to go smaller if you are going for off-road clearance. Of course State of California finances has put any bike purchase on hold for the time being, so I'm just giving you virtual opinions now! On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: My 60cm Bombadil is finally finished (had too much work and family related stuff these last two weeks). I will post pictures tomorrow. However, as soon as I straddled it while building it, I realized I had significantly less standover clearance than I do on my 61cm Homer. I can still lift both wheels what appears to be around 1 inch, haven't really measured, but when I stand over the bike with both feet on the ground, I can feel the top tube way up there. The bike is currently built with Specialized El Capitan Control 2.2 front/2.0 rear tires for a full MTB experience. Since it was raining during the weekend and I was swamped with work and family, I was only able to take it out for a ride on Tuesday's commute to work via bike and Caltrain. I rode it for a total of around 8 miles split up in four legs. I'll post more details when I have more time, but my concerns with the standover clearance persisted, so I e-mailed Mark @ Rivendell and spoke with Keven today. They both feel that based on my measured PBH, the 60cm Bombadil frame is the right size, but if I feel it's too big, they will set me up with a new 56cm frame. It's great to know that they will stand by me and take care of my in this situation. Today I commuted with the Homer, and even though barely a month and a half ago it seemed like a huge frame (my conversion to the Rivendell fit philosophy), compared to the Bombadil I felt I had lots of clearance and of course, they both handle different. I'm taking the Bombadil to Rivendell tomorrow so Mark and Keven can check my fit and together, we can decide if it is indeed the right size for me, or if I'll fit best on the 56cm. Standover height on the Bombadil 60 is about 2 cm higher than on the Homer 61. Everyone agrees that you probably need a little more clearance on a mountain bike than on a road bike, but what is really the minimum clearance? Anyway, I'll update the group on the decision we take tomorrow and will submit photos of the complete bike. Going to a 56 frame will mean another wait for it to be painted (minor annoyance), but also a new wheelset from Rich, new tires, and no exchanging wheels between the Homer and the Bombadil. What is the feeling regarding standover clearance and minimum clearance? René PS.- The fender question is now on hold until the frame size issue is cleared... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Correct Bombadil size...
David, That is exactly how I feel. Since the Homer and Bombadil are my last bike purchases for the foreseeable future (I sold other bikes and stuff to finance them), I have to make sure I get the right sized Bombadil. My goal when adding the Bombadil to the Homer (I still have a 150mm dual suspension Titus FTM trailbike) was to try mountain biking with it, but also use it in my eventual pursuit of some form of touring/camping/adventure I can fit in my life and hopefully introduce my 10 year old son to eventually as well. It's a very long story, but it's just a dream I have and as I get older, I think it at least gives some sense to my focus on cycling. I first need to be able to get consistent on day rides... :-) Anyway, the 60 Bombadil is not a problem for riding on the road, where you are not going to have to do an emergency dismount on uneven ground and find yourself hitting the top tube with your tender parts before your feet hit the ground. Since I'm riding the Bombadil with Moustache bars and a Dirt Drop stem (another first time for me), I cannot really assess if the frame also feels long or not. I do feel stretched out when reaching for the brakes, but not too much. I have to say I am surprised at how much I liked those bars on that first ride. I concur with your assessment that for rough off-road the extra clearance is needed, but I have made so many mistakes in the past with frame sizes (pre-Rivendell) that I just want to make sure. Thanks for your feedback! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
Thanks. Acorn. On Dec 17, 6:33 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rob, Very nice setups. Pretty convincing argument as well. What is that saddlebag you have on the Bleriot? René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
Beautiful machine, Brian. Thanks for sharing. ATMO, medium trail is smart design. How much weight do you really carry up front, and for how long? When I put a half-rack of beer up front, I'm usually only carrying it for a mile or so. When unloaded, or lightly loaded (which is most of the time for me,) medium trail works great. I front-load my AHH and most of my other bikes - works just dandy. Trail is an important part of the equation, but it's not the only factor involved. Thanks again Brian. R/ Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Correct Bombadil size...
I don't think you could go wrong with either size, just one may be better for your needs. Figure out what those needs are and then you'll have your answer! :-) I would be happier on a 56cm given the frame clearance and intended use. What's your PBH height? I think mine is 89cm, and a 61-62cm Rivendell frame with a 59cm top tube is just perfect. A 9 or 10cm stem then puts the bars at a saddle height and the correct extension, but little top tube clearance with that size. As mentioned, this is perfect for road and rough-stuff riding, but on singletrack you sometimes need to get your feet on the ground fast! A 56cm Bombadil would get me just about the same height/length and give the proper amount of clearance needed on rough terrain. A 60cm would just be too tall for me, although I could still ride it. A shame as I have a great 700C wheelset I would love to use! Believe me, I've spent time obsessing on this In the end, the 60cm doesn't have enough clearance and the 56cm is the wrong wheel size (for me). Hence my questions about a Surly Karate Monkey a bit ago :-) Now if I can just keep my job in public education for another year, maybe I'll find me that perfect bike! On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: David, That is exactly how I feel. Since the Homer and Bombadil are my last bike purchases for the foreseeable future (I sold other bikes and stuff to finance them), I have to make sure I get the right sized Bombadil. My goal when adding the Bombadil to the Homer (I still have a 150mm dual suspension Titus FTM trailbike) was to try mountain biking with it, but also use it in my eventual pursuit of some form of touring/camping/adventure I can fit in my life and hopefully introduce my 10 year old son to eventually as well. It's a very long story, but it's just a dream I have and as I get older, I think it at least gives some sense to my focus on cycling. I first need to be able to get consistent on day rides... :-) Anyway, the 60 Bombadil is not a problem for riding on the road, where you are not going to have to do an emergency dismount on uneven ground and find yourself hitting the top tube with your tender parts before your feet hit the ground. Since I'm riding the Bombadil with Moustache bars and a Dirt Drop stem (another first time for me), I cannot really assess if the frame also feels long or not. I do feel stretched out when reaching for the brakes, but not too much. I have to say I am surprised at how much I liked those bars on that first ride. I concur with your assessment that for rough off-road the extra clearance is needed, but I have made so many mistakes in the past with frame sizes (pre-Rivendell) that I just want to make sure. Thanks for your feedback! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: AHH with VO Porteur bars
I generally have a change of cloths and a towel in the Sackville Shopsack I'm using on the front. It rides fine, and I love the convenience of the basket for various oversized spur of the moment items. The big issue I have with wheel flop is when I'm parked at an intersection I have to pay more attention lest the bars flop over into an unfortunate part of the anatomy. Another good reason for downtube shifters - the bar ends are more blunt and a tiny bit lighter :) Brian On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: Beautiful machine, Brian. Thanks for sharing. ATMO, medium trail is smart design. How much weight do you really carry up front, and for how long? When I put a half-rack of beer up front, I'm usually only carrying it for a mile or so. When unloaded, or lightly loaded (which is most of the time for me,) medium trail works great. I front-load my AHH and most of my other bikes - works just dandy. Trail is an important part of the equation, but it's not the only factor involved. Thanks again Brian. R/ Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Correct Bombadil size...
Couldn't have summarized the issue any better! :-D René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders on Bombadil for off-road and mountain biking...
I just put my mudguards/wheelbrows back on last weekend when it was actually raining! I ride trails a lot with fenders on. These are dirt roads/fire roads/forest roads mainly, not singletrack and not with a lot of undergrowth to worry about. Gonna' ride some of them this Sunday with the SoCal crowd!!! http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3145241593/in/set-72157602592825848/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/438261899/in/set-72157602592825848/ On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Dec 17, 4:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on during the wet and during the snow months here in ABQ and they do make a huge difference especially on dirt. I don't ride in mud, but I do ride through puddles and slush and I can attest that fenders on mtbs do a great deal to keep bike and rider dry and clean. yeah, I use fenders on dirt roads too. and they're great for riding through puddles and slush on gentle single track and unpaved roads - do that all the time. my idea of mountain biking is probably a little different, that's all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
