[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues

2010-04-21 Thread Bruce Curry
I see your 250lbs and raise you almost 20.  When I first got my
current bike add another 30.  I started with a Rambouillet with older
105 hubs on 32 spoke Mavic M3's which were built for the 200lb PO who
rode 27mm specialized tires.  The rear rim lasted probably 3 months.

Solution: keep the 105/32 rear hub, rebuild w/Mavic a317's (?) double
butted rims w/DT 14guage spokes and brass nipples that have some
loctite-type glue substance which keeps them solidly in place.  I put
33.33mm Jack Brown tires @80 psi which are about as light as Grant
recommends at my weight. I expect about 1500 miles off the rear JB,
about 3k on the front.  They have a Kevlar version if you need
additional puncture protection.  Front rim is the original Mavic M3 w/
the 33.33 JB @70 psi.

I have about 2500 miles on these rims without any issues but would
move to a Mavic 717 36 spoke on 105's if I did.  Last point: go to
your local wheel builder to get these done.  You will get free trueing
as well as his advice.  Cost is probably $60 for the hub, $45 for the
rim, $1/spoke and $50 for the build.

Last thought.  At 100miles/wk I was losing 10lbs/month no matter what
I ate. Average ride was 25 - 40miles solo @17-17.5mph. Didn't take
long.

Bottom line: I think w/a decent hub and the right rim fabbed by a good
builder and you will have more than you need for less than $200.

Good luck.  Bruce


On Apr 19, 10:02 am, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
 Hi, all. I seek counsel.

 I weigh about 250 lbs. I often carry 10-15 lbs on a rear rack. I ride
 a Trek hybrid, sitting bolt-upright. (By the way, this Trek is about
 as Riv'd up as any Trek could be. Actual Riv relevance: Later this
 year I'll also be riding a Hillborne and any counsel I receive will
 apply to it for sure; maybe/maybe-not for the Trek. Also, the riding I
 do is very much non-clubby, non-race-y, and non-trivial in distance;
 this seems to match up with Riv philosophy and thus seems appropriate
 for this group.) I use 700x35 tires on 32- or 36-spoke wheels at about
 60 psi. I ride 70-100 miles/week 12 months a year (I bet that'll rise
 when I get the Hillborne), over half on limestone trail. I'm actually
 pretty easy on the bike in general, avoiding obstacles/rough path
 where practical, lifting the wheel and slowing down when I don't avoid
 the hazard.

 My problem is that I haven't gotten more than 1000 miles on any rear
 wheel without complete failure (cracked hub, bent axle) or the need
 for repair (hub overhaul, multiple spoke breakage, rim *way* out-of-
 true-or-round). The wheels I've used include some cheapies and some
 good ones. Some were better to use than others. But all were okay to
 use (until they failed :( ). More wheel details later.

 My preliminary question is: should I simply expect to have these
 problems every thousand (or two) miles? That is, will I likely have
 problems like these at that rate no matter *what* wheel I have? If so,
 then my plan will likely be to go for a value proposition instead of a
 reliability one. That is, I'll settle with a cheap wheel, always
 having a backup, knowing that I'll have to replace/repair/adjust more
 often than I'd like. That'd be okay, I guess... though it seems wrong
 in some profound way; after all, I've literally never *had* to replace
 any of my non-Pasela tires. I've put at least 3000 miles on my most
 recent set and still *could* use the originals the Trek came with. (I
 went through 4 Paselas in short order, with all of them failing in the
 same way with a sidewall eruption. Too bad. I liked the gum sidewall
 look.)

 However, if these wheel problems are avoidable (yes, yes... I know...
 losing 80-90 pounds would go a long way; let's assume that's not
 happening short-term), what kind of wheel will avoid them? Wheels I've
 used thus far include:

 --- Shimano RM60 (Alivio-ish?) hub / 32 2|1.8|2mm spokes / cheapish
 Alex rim - lasted about 1000 miles before breaking spokes, eventually
 on 3 rides in a row

 --- 105 hub / 36 2mm spokes / Sun CR18 rim - lasted maybe a little
 over 1000 miles before 4 holes-worth of drive-side hub snapped off of
 the hub body

 --- Deore hub / 32 2mm spokes / Sun CR18 rim - lasted maybe 400 miles
 before breaking spokes on 3 or 4 rides in a row (had 2 of these on the
 the theory that the first one was not prepped properly... 2nd one
 was no different with prep) - eventually I bent an axle on one of
 these, the other one (having been re-laced and re-trued and
 overhauled) is now my snow/ice wheel and will see little mileage

 --- XT hub / 36 2|1.7|2mm spokes / Velocity Synergy OC rim - lasted
 around 1000 miles before periodic ka-tink ka-tink noise appeared in
 the hub; am currently looking into whether this is a fatal problem or
 simply a maintenance issue

 Now, if the current XT-hubbed wheel's problems turn out to be readily
 solvable (adjustment of bearings, regreasing, something like that)
 then I'm happy to stay with this kind of wheel. The spokes seem to

[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?

2010-04-21 Thread Philip Williamson
Bottle mount stars??! I thought I told you no bottle mount stars!

 Philip
McMinnville, Ore.

On Apr 20, 7:08 pm, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego
  show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/

  Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP
  Sheldon), no shifter cable braze-ons, curvy chain stays.

  I guess that is about one standard deviation away from a typical Rivendell.

 Wow, that's a pretty cool Rivendell frame. I'd say that a fixed trail
 bike is the only explanation for it, and now i'm really curious about
 what the flaw could have been. It seems like it would have to be a big
 deal for the customer to bail on such a carefully negotiated custom
 like that, but it's hard to see anything to complain about from here.

 Ken, this one is right up your alley (if indeed it's the frame in question).

 --
 Bill Connell
 St. Paul, MN

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremy Till
The shimano bar end shifters can switch between friction and indexing
in the rear shifter; the front shifter is only friction.

On Apr 20, 10:40 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Thanks for the replies.  Richard, thanks for the velo orange link.
 I've read Peter White's article before, but I'm going to read it
 again.

 I was under the impression that bar end shifters had two modes: index
 and friction.  If the bar end shifters are in index mode for the front
 derailleur, do you need ramps and pins for smooth shifting?  Or do
 most people with triples run the front derailleur in friction mode?

 Thanks.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Rivendells in the Recent Gallery Updates

2010-04-21 Thread CycloFiend
Hey all - 

Finally getting a few moments to get the Galleries going again.

I've had a few Rivendell models sneaking into the lineup here and there, but
in case you missed the announcements, here's the Riv-specific cheat sheet

Isaac Enloe's Orange Quickbeam -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg291-isaacenloe0410.html

Rocky B's Silver Quickbeam -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg292-rockyb0410.html

Gernot's Orange Sam Hillborne -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc765-gernothuber0410.html

Joe Huddleston's Rivendell Road -
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc768-joehuddleston0410.html

Jay's Atlantis - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc763-jayscheiner0410.html

Richard's Custom - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc760-richardvaldez0310.html

Seth's Atlantis - 
http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc756-sethvidal0310.html

I may have mentioned a couple of these before, but didn't want to leave any
out.

I'm now announcing new additions (or highlighting earlier Gallery entries)
on a new/old blog - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com

Finally, if you have sent in photos and haven't seen them posted yet, I
thank you for your patience.  I've been streamlining the workflow a bit, and
other areas are calming down a bit now. Hang in there and know they are in
the queue! 

Thank you for your support and submissions!

- Jim

-- 
Jim Edgar
cyclofi...@earthlink.net

Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com
Current Classics - Cross Bikes
Singlespeed - Working Bikes

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.

2010-04-21 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/20/10 4:23 PM, wile at dylanmcner...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My experience has
 been that if I put on a set of JBs or Paselas (32C), and I let the
 tires get to about 1000 or 1100 without rotating, the rear tire will
 be toast (i.e. get a flat every other day from puncture).  Once it
 gets to this point I have found it is too late to rotate them - the
 same tire will continue to flat once it gets to the front.

I stopped rotating tires after reading this:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html

If anything, I'll rotate the front to the rear only, now.

- J

-- 
Jim Edgar
cyclofi...@earthlink.net

Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com
Current Classics - Cross Bikes
Singlespeed - Working Bikes

Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines


I thought the idea was to waste the rest of our lives together..
-- Cyril, Breaking Away



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Rivendells in the Recent Gallery Updates

2010-04-21 Thread Me
Lots of pretty bikes there to look at!

Such a great site, Jim... only problem is, it's a massive Time Suck
whenever I find myself there [because I can't stop clicking away on
the next, and next, and next, and next, and next... bike].

Curse You ;-)

-Scott

On Apr 20, 11:45 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hey all -

 Finally getting a few moments to get the Galleries going again.

 I've had a few Rivendell models sneaking into the lineup here and there, but
 in case you missed the announcements, here's the Riv-specific cheat sheet

 Isaac Enloe's Orange Quickbeam 
 -http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg291-isaacenloe0410.html

 Rocky B's Silver Quickbeam 
 -http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg292-rockyb0410.html

 Gernot's Orange Sam Hillborne 
 -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc765-gernothuber0410.html

 Joe Huddleston's Rivendell Road 
 -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc768-joehuddleston0410.html

 Jay's Atlantis -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc763-jayscheiner0410.html

 Richard's Custom 
 -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc760-richardvaldez0310.html

 Seth's Atlantis -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc756-sethvidal0310.html

 I may have mentioned a couple of these before, but didn't want to leave any
 out.

 I'm now announcing new additions (or highlighting earlier Gallery entries)
 on a new/old blog -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com

 Finally, if you have sent in photos and haven't seen them posted yet, I
 thank you for your patience.  I've been streamlining the workflow a bit, and
 other areas are calming down a bit now. Hang in there and know they are in
 the queue!

 Thank you for your support and submissions!

 - Jim

 --
 Jim Edgar
 cyclofi...@earthlink.net

 Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
 Current Classics - Cross Bikes
 Singlespeed - Working Bikes

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Me
...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
unopened.
Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
cassette hub.

Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
whole 650B thang.

**no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

-Scott

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
On Apr 21, 1:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.


Whaaa?!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
On Apr 21, 12:14 am, RM b...@san.rr.com wrote:
 On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, happyriding wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for the response.

  On Apr 20, 10:09 am, RM b...@san.rr.com wrote:
 Besides establishing a better position on the bike for increasing my power 
 output ability, I also came away no longer suffering from shoulder blade area 
 pain on long rides. I do not know if he is still personally doing bike fits, 
 but he is still listed on staff at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine.


Any one specific thing you can attribute to solving your shoulder
aches?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne

2010-04-21 Thread Johnny Alien
Hmmm...it seems like it is not a crazy idea at all then.  I now have
options!  Does anyone know if the Hunqapillar colors on the site are
the final colors?

On Apr 20, 11:30 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 I have a Hillborne and am running some 700 x 40 Schwalbe Smart Sam
 knobbies.. it could easily take a 45-47mm knobbie w/o fenders. And
 I've ridden it on some pretty techy singletrack in this mode and as a
 result I hardly ever take out my 29er an 
 more.http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347...@n05/4220857510/sizes/l/in/set-7...

 ~Mike~

 On Apr 20, 8:14 pm, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote:





  I would bet that the Hilborne is at least as rugged as the MB-1 and
  MB-0, which saw lots of rougher trails.

  jim m
  wc ca

  On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

   I don't think I will be thrashing it really at all but I do want a
   bike set up for slightly rougher trails.  I wasn't sure if it would be
   overkill to set up a country bike frame in this manner.  I have a
   Bleriot and it doesn't seem like it would be a great frame to set up
   in this manner.  I think the Hillborne is more heavy duty than the
   Bleriot though.

   On Apr 20, 8:06 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:

The spec sheet says 44 mm max tire.

How hard are you planning on thrashing the bike?  Do you really need
the extra beef of the Hunq?  If not, and the Sam would fit, then go
for it!

On Apr 20, 3:48 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

 I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the
 Rivendell site.  I have decided that I want to make my next bike
 similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars.

http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3453/Vaughn_s_Quarte...

 I kinda like the colors and 650B size of the Hilborne but of course
 the frame is not as heavy duty as the Hunqapillar. I am not sure how
 wide it can go tire-wise without fenders either.

 So would it make sense to gear up a Hillborne in this fashion or
 should I just suck it up and go with the Hunqapillar when it comes 
 out?

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group 
athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
   For more options, visit this group 
   athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text -

  - Show quoted text -

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Another tire thread: does Riv sell 42/40 Marathon Supremes?

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
Hi,

Can someone educate me on the tire sizes available for Marathon
Supremes?  Or, can someone recommend another touring tire that is
roughly a true 38mm?  Does suppleness matter when touring?  Or is the
whole rig just a big laborious steam roller?

Thanks

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
Hi,

On Apr 21, 12:43 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 The shimano bar end shifters can switch between friction and indexing
 in the rear shifter; the front shifter is only friction.


Ah hah.  Thanks.

I have another question.  Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative
to a 46x36x26 triple?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Another tire thread: does Riv sell 42/40 Marathon Supremes?

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
Are Jack Brown Blues a viable alternative?  Or are they too narrow?
The description recommends them for tandems.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
On Apr 21, 5:14 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
 Hmmm...it seems like it is not a crazy idea at all then.  I now have
 options!  Does anyone know if the Hunqapillar colors on the site are
 the final colors?


The last I read, they were thinking of offering two options: red panel/
headtube and orange panel/headtube.

As for the strength of the Sam Hillborne, here is what Rivendell
Reader #41 (which is free to download) said when introducing the Sam
Hillborne:

---
The Sam may be even more versatile than the AHH, because the
tubing is slightly thicker (same gauge as the Atlantis), so it more
suited
to loaded touring. With AHH clearance, Atlantis tubing gauges, and a
fork that splits the diff, you can think of it as halfway between the
Atlantis and A. Homer Hilsen.
--

I'm not sure what that fork comment is referring to (clearance?
tubing?).

I've read that the Atlantis tubing is butted .9/.6/.9.  And the same
Riv Reader that introduces the Hillborne has an article about the
Bombadil.  The article on the Bombadil says the tubing is .1 thicker
than the Atlantis, so that would make the tubes on the Bombadil 1.0
millimeter thick.  The article also says the Bomadil's down tube and
double top tubes are straight gauge (no butting).   The Hunqapillar is
described as having Bombadil stout tubing in the main tubes, which
presumably means the top and down tubes (and that might also be the
case for the down tube as well).

In any case, the Hunqapillar has 1.0 mm tubing, and the Sam Hillborne
and Atlantis have .9 mm tubing.   The Atlantis is recommended for
fully loaded touring.  Therefore, it seems like the Sam Hillborne is a
pretty stout bike.

Also, are you aware that the double top tube design of the Hunqapillar
has morphed into something different than depicted on the website?
The second top tube is most likely going to angle down and join the
seat tube in the middle of the seat tube.




-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Pondero
Somehow I don't think Scott here is our man to photo document the
delivery guy dropping of the big cardboard box, the legendary Riv
packing job, and multiple views of each individual component as he
unwraps it all.  Nope.

He's got his issues, but I guess there's no denying I've got mine
either.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread scott
Christmas in April!!!

On Apr 21, 7:33 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Somehow I don't think Scott here is our man to photo document the
 delivery guy dropping of the big cardboard box, the legendary Riv
 packing job, and multiple views of each individual component as he
 unwraps it all.  Nope.

 He's got his issues, but I guess there's no denying I've got mine
 either.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Rivendells in the Recent Gallery Updates

2010-04-21 Thread Beardpapa
Thanks Jim.  Great stuff.

On Apr 21, 1:57 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lots of pretty bikes there to look at!

 Such a great site, Jim... only problem is, it's a massive Time Suck
 whenever I find myself there [because I can't stop clicking away on
 the next, and next, and next, and next, and next... bike].

 Curse You ;-)

 -Scott

 On Apr 20, 11:45 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:





  Hey all -

  Finally getting a few moments to get the Galleries going again.

  I've had a few Rivendell models sneaking into the lineup here and there, but
  in case you missed the announcements, here's the Riv-specific cheat sheet

  Isaac Enloe's Orange Quickbeam 
  -http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg291-isaacenloe0410.html

  Rocky B's Silver Quickbeam 
  -http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg292-rockyb0410.html

  Gernot's Orange Sam Hillborne 
  -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc765-gernothuber0410.html

  Joe Huddleston's Rivendell Road 
  -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc768-joehuddleston0410.html

  Jay's Atlantis -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc763-jayscheiner0410.html

  Richard's Custom 
  -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc760-richardvaldez0310.html

  Seth's Atlantis -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2010/cc756-sethvidal0310.html

  I may have mentioned a couple of these before, but didn't want to leave any
  out.

  I'm now announcing new additions (or highlighting earlier Gallery entries)
  on a new/old blog -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com

  Finally, if you have sent in photos and haven't seen them posted yet, I
  thank you for your patience.  I've been streamlining the workflow a bit, and
  other areas are calming down a bit now. Hang in there and know they are in
  the queue!

  Thank you for your support and submissions!

  - Jim

  --
  Jim Edgar
  cyclofi...@earthlink.net

  Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
  Current Classics - Cross Bikes
  Singlespeed - Working Bikes

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread JoelMatthews
I recall you mentioning it once back in your blog days. I just assumed
you sold it.

Pacenti has some potentally great 650B tires about to ship.  Get your
order in soon.  The first run is probably close to selling out if it
has not already.

Of course the venerable Hetres should be a fit as well.

The only risk I see is this may nudge out your other rides to become
your favorite bike.

On Apr 21, 2:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
 right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
 various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
 Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.

 Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
 whole 650B thang.

 **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

 -Scott

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne

2010-04-21 Thread JoelMatthews
 I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the
 Rivendell site.  I have decided that I want to make my next bike
 similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars.

Big fan of the Bullmoose bars.  Especially the metallic run Riv says
Nitto sent in error.  I do not have a bike with the correct rise
steerer tube to use them.  I am thinking about buying a set under the
assumption I may some day have the right bike for the bars.

On Apr 20, 5:48 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
 I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the
 Rivendell site.  I have decided that I want to make my next bike
 similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars.

 http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3453/Vaughn_s_Quarte...

 I kinda like the colors and 650B size of the Hilborne but of course
 the frame is not as heavy duty as the Hunqapillar. I am not sure how
 wide it can go tire-wise without fenders either.

 So would it make sense to gear up a Hillborne in this fashion or
 should I just suck it up and go with the Hunqapillar when it comes out?

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Ray Shine
For a moment there, I thought we lived in the same house.  I, too, have a box 
in my basement that contained a Bleriot recently purchased from another list 
member.  Mine is built, however, and I have put about 50 miles on it since 
receiving it last Tuesday.  I also wanted to experience the 650B thing, 
whatever that is.  I read on this forum how wonderful the 650B ride is, and am 
curious what that means. 

The bike rides great.  Quite comfy, but so are the other Rivs. It has drops and 
bar-ends.  I am awaiting another parcel from VO that contains brake levers and 
grips, then my plan is to replace the Nitto Noodles with Albatross and thumb 
shifters -- also a first for me.  My Bleriot came with a Brooks Flyer (sprung). 
 

The only thing to report so far is that I learned very early on how important 
it is to keep that inside pedal up when turning at any significant speed.  
Also, when I stop, I can easily place foot on  ground.  On my 700c Rivs, that's 
always a toe stand if I stay on the saddle.  So, that aspect is more 
comfortable.  I'll report more soon, and send pix to Cyclofiend after the 
cockpit make-oveRay





From: Me clotht...@gmail.com
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 12:13:42 AM
Subject: [RBW] Guess I don't get down to the basement much

...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
unopened.
Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
cassette hub.

Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
whole 650B thang.

**no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

-Scott

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?

2010-04-21 Thread Scott G.
Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the
rear, Repack Revisited.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 22:40 -0700, happyriding wrote:
 Thanks for the replies.  Richard, thanks for the velo orange link.
 I've read Peter White's article before, but I'm going to read it
 again.
 
 I was under the impression that bar end shifters had two modes: index
 and friction.  If the bar end shifters are in index mode for the front
 derailleur,


Front is friction.  

  do you need ramps and pins for smooth shifting?

No



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Mike
I was down in my basement yesterday puttering around and working on my
bikes. All I found was dust, boxes full of stuff I don't really need,
and some cracked Planet Bike fenders. Last week I found my Keen sandal
which had been MIA for a year. Maybe I'll go down there and rummage
around some more. Sure would be nice to find an Atlantis but I don't
think so...

Hey Scott, that sounds like a great bike you have there. Feel free to
contact me off list if you want to get out for a ride one of these
days. I live in Portland. In fact, any list members in the area that
want to get together for a ride, or are swinging through town, drop me
a line if you want to ride.

--mike

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick in VT
On Apr 21, 5:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am about ready to order the 35 Paselas, because I have the sneaking
 suspicion that the 38 Marathon Racers are actually skinnier than the
 35 Paselas, given that the 42 Supremes run 37.5 according to rivbike.
 If the Racers run true to size, please let me know as I may try them
 instead.

I've ridden both the 35 paselas and the 35 racers (which did run true
to size).  i recently sold the racers to a list member because I
didn't care for the ride.  the racers might be relatively more
supple and have better rolling resistance than other schwalbe tires,
but they still felt harsh to me compared to the pasela.   in any
event, for what you want, both tires are probably as good as it gets
at that size in 700c.  there's not too many options.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.

2010-04-21 Thread Mike
On Apr 20, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I stopped rotating tires after reading this:
 http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html
 If anything, I'll rotate the front to the rear only, now.

 - J

I was thinking the same thing Jim. Funny, I read that article for the
first time only about a week ago. It makes sense.

--mike

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Another tire thread: does Riv sell 42/40 Marathon Supremes?

2010-04-21 Thread Tim McNamara


On Apr 21, 2010, at 6:30 AM, happyriding wrote:


Can someone educate me on the tire sizes available for Marathon
Supremes?  Or, can someone recommend another touring tire that is
roughly a true 38mm?  Does suppleness matter when touring?  Or is the
whole rig just a big laborious steam roller?


IMHO suppleness matters more in those situations but there are  
tradeoffs- flat tires are a major nuisance on a loaded touring bike  
and sidewall toughness is also an issue.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread cyclotourist
That was my experience, too.  I whacked the pedals pretty frequently on the
Bleriot; didn't do that except maybe once every few years on my other bikes.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:59 AM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:


 The only thing to report so far is that I learned very early on how
 important it is to keep that inside pedal up when turning at any significant
 speed.  Also, when I stop, I can easily place foot on  ground.  On my 700c
 Rivs, that's always a toe stand if I stay on the saddle.  So, that aspect is
 more comfortable.  I'll report more soon, and send pix to Cyclofiend after
 the cockpit make-oveRay

 --
 *From:* Me clotht...@gmail.com
 *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Wed, April 21, 2010 12:13:42 AM
 *Subject:* [RBW] Guess I don't get down to the basement much

 ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
 right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
 various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
 Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.

 Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
 whole 650B thang.

 **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

 -Scott

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+
 unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Silver Shifter Adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread MichaelH
Between my wife and I, we have four bikes with silver shifters, two DT
and two BE.  The DT shifters can be set with a very light touch and
hold that position without any loosening and skipping.  However the
two BE need to be tightened down to a point where the shifting is much
stiffer, and sill I find after a few days of riding the D ring will
loosen a bit and the chain will jump gears.

The only other variable I can think of is that the bikes with BE are
more often ridden on dirt and rough roads.  Has anyone else noticed
this?

Michael

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
On Apr 21, 5:48 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Apr 21, 12:43 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

  The shimano bar end shifters can switch between friction and indexing
  in the rear shifter; the front shifter is only friction.

 Ah hah.  Thanks.

 I have another question.  Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative
 to a 46x36x26 triple?


Whoops.  Make that a 46x30 double.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter Adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread Angus
Michael,

I have noticed that the silver shifters need more tightening on rear
derailleurs that have a higher spring tension.

My experience between DT and Bar end has been the opposite of
yours...I don't understand why.   I end up tightening the DT silver
shifters during most rides.

Angus

On Apr 21, 9:07 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 Between my wife and I, we have four bikes with silver shifters, two DT
 and two BE.  The DT shifters can be set with a very light touch and
 hold that position without any loosening and skipping.  However the
 two BE need to be tightened down to a point where the shifting is much
 stiffer, and sill I find after a few days of riding the D ring will
 loosen a bit and the chain will jump gears.

 The only other variable I can think of is that the bikes with BE are
 more often ridden on dirt and rough roads.  Has anyone else noticed
 this?

 Michael

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread rperks
You may have bought already but my four JB greens measure between 34
and 35mm the two most broken in being 34.8 and  35.1, I am not sure
you are gaining anything with the Paselas.  I have been looking at the
spec chart for the Racers too, but too cheap to pull the trigger,
based on ETRO the 38 racers should be 40mm wide.  I have found the
schwalbes measure true to stated ETRO data not what is on the box at
times.  Proportionally it should be like moving up from Rolly Pollys
to JB, the 38 racers are the next step as far as I can see.

For the moment it is JB green for me.

Rob

On Apr 21, 2:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and
 neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never
 destroyed a tire, and I habitually ride tires well beyond their
 intended use. I ride my Jack Brown Greens on hardpack trails with lots
 of sharp rocks sticking out of the dirt, and have only gotten one
 (pinch) flat in 6 months (tire probably only had 30-35 psi, because I
 am lazy about topping up). I just want something that won't wash out
 in deep sand as easily, and still be really nice on the road where I
 ride 70-80% of the time. For dedicated offroading, I have 42mm IRC
 Mythos XC Slicks, which do the job very well and still are decent on
 the road.

 On most of the skinwall tires I have had, the sidewalls turned
 threadbare (due to UV/ozone, I assume) before the tread wore out, and
 I'd much rather have that happen but have a supple tire than have a
 bomb-proof tire that feels dead. So I'll probably give the regular
 Marathons a miss. :)

 I am about ready to order the 35 Paselas, because I have the sneaking
 suspicion that the 38 Marathon Racers are actually skinnier than the
 35 Paselas, given that the 42 Supremes run 37.5 according to rivbike.
 If the Racers run true to size, please let me know as I may try them
 instead.

 Cheers,

 Gernot

 On Apr 21, 11:37 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:





  You could just go with the basic wire bead Marathon that Riv sells:

 http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068

  They're not supple but they're not that bad, especially when you
  consider the price. The model Riv sells measures 41 so it should fit
  on the Hillborne. They're nice off road, durable and confidence
  inspiring.

  mike

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread MichaelH
To answer two questions at once.  Indexed shifting a triple is more
trouble than its worth.   It will need more adjustments and offer less
trim finesse.  So, skip the indexing and the ramped rings.  I run
friction shifters and good, but no name LBS silver unpinned
rings( 48/34/26) on a DaVinci triple crank and it shifts fine.  The
only time I ever have a problem is when I have waited too long to drop
into the granny.

About the gearing.  I am considering switching one of bikes
(Rambouillet) from a triple to  a 44/30 double with an 11x28, 9 spd
cassette.  This will give the same top gear as my 48x12 and only one
gear less on the bottom 30x28 instead of 26x27.  One downside I can
see to this is that the 11 will probably wear out pretty quickly.  If
that does happen I think I will move the cassette to a bike with a
triple and lock out the 11.  Also, the jumps - 12-14-16 - are a little
bigger than the 12x27 spacing - 12,13,14,15,17.

The only objection I have to triples is the extra work cleaning them.
I ride a lot of dirt roads and tired of pulling the whole thing apart
(especially the XD with the hidden bolt) to clean the middle ring.

Michael


On Apr 21, 7:48 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Apr 21, 12:43 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:

  The shimano bar end shifters can switch between friction and indexing
  in the rear shifter; the front shifter is only friction.

 Ah hah.  Thanks.

 I have another question.  Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative
 to a 46x36x26 triple?

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Another tire thread: does Riv sell 42/40 Marathon Supremes?

2010-04-21 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Why ask the peanut gallery when you could go to the source?
http://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_supreme

IMO, the Supreme is a nice tire for city riding, gravel riding, loaded
bike riding, etc. Fairly flat-resistant, fairly lightweight, fairly
nice rolling, fairly expensive. Schwalbe makes at least ten other
tires in the vicinity of 700x38 that are also road worthy.


On Apr 21, 6:30 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can someone educate me on the tire sizes available for Marathon
 Supremes?  Or, can someone recommend another touring tire that is
 roughly a true 38mm?  Does suppleness matter when touring?  Or is the
 whole rig just a big laborious steam roller?

 Thanks

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Update to Page: Riv-Related RSS Feeds

2010-04-21 Thread cyclofiend


Click on 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/web/riv-related-rss-feeds
- or copy  paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
work.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter Adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread William
Remember to beeswax the threads on the D-ring screw.  Liberally.
Pretend that the hunk of beeswax is a crayon, and scratch it back and
forth on the threads all around.  It helps a great deal.  Nature's loc-
tite

On Apr 21, 7:19 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Michael,

 I have noticed that the silver shifters need more tightening on rear
 derailleurs that have a higher spring tension.

 My experience between DT and Bar end has been the opposite of
 yours...I don't understand why.   I end up tightening the DT silver
 shifters during most rides.

 Angus

 On Apr 21, 9:07 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:



  Between my wife and I, we have four bikes with silver shifters, two DT
  and two BE.  The DT shifters can be set with a very light touch and
  hold that position without any loosening and skipping.  However the
  two BE need to be tightened down to a point where the shifting is much
  stiffer, and sill I find after a few days of riding the D ring will
  loosen a bit and the chain will jump gears.

  The only other variable I can think of is that the bikes with BE are
  more often ridden on dirt and rough roads.  Has anyone else noticed
  this?

  Michael

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread Shaun Meehan
I've used both the 35mm Paselas and the 38mm Marathon Racers on the
Atlantis. I actually wore out the tread on the Paselas and never had
any problems with the side walls. Both ride nicely. I would say that
the Racers ride a bit smoother; probably just due to the slight
increase in volume, but it could have something to do with the casing
material as well. I don't know if I'd say that the Racers have more
tread than the Supremes. The tread pattern is really shallow and they
almost function as a slick. That said, I've ridden the Racers on
gravel and they perform well. The Racers *seem* to be wearing a little
better than the Paselas so far. I'd say that I like the Racers better
but they're considerably more expensive than the Paselas too.

Shaun Meehan

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick in VT
On Apr 21, 10:07 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Whoops.  Make that a 46x30 double.

as long as you have a low enough gear, it will be reasonable.

be aware that if you're looking at a compact with a ring smaller than
a 33, it can get spendy.  but the nice bit about a lower gearing
compacts (46x30; 44x28; etc.) is that you can stay in the big ring for
all but really long or really steep climbs.

you could always just run a 48 or 46x34 110bcd compact with a wide
range cassette to get a low enough gear.  but it kind of depends on
where your sweet spot is and what kind of riding you're doing.  you
might end up shifting a lot between rings with this set up.  gearing
is definitely not one-size-fits-all.

i have bikes set up with a 50x34 (11-25), a 48x34 (11-30) and a 44x28
(13-26).  all very different bikes for different kinds of riding.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Philip Williamson
I said the exact same thing - Christmas in April!

 Philip

On Apr 21, 5:39 am, scott clankbonesh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Christmas in April!!!

 On Apr 21, 7:33 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote:

  Somehow I don't think Scott here is our man to photo document the
  delivery guy dropping of the big cardboard box, the legendary Riv
  packing job, and multiple views of each individual component as he
  unwraps it all.  Nope.

  He's got his issues, but I guess there's no denying I've got mine
  either.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread Earl Grey
Interesting, my 6 month old JB Greens measure 33.5mm on Synergies.

I was under the impression that Schwalbe tires run narrow (judging
from a few posts and from rivbike.com which says the 42 ETRTO Supremes
are actually 37.5, the 47 Marathons are actually 41.5 and the 50 Big
Apples are 44.5 (presumably on Synergies, the rim of choice at Riv).
But Michael_S's 42 ETRTO Schwalbe Smart Sams (UK only) measure 41 knob
to knob and 38 wall to sidewall (don't know what rim), so I guess
severe undersizing isn't true for all Schwalbes. Does anyone have a
Racer they can measure to compare stated with actual width?

Cheers,

Gernot


On Apr 21, 9:22 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
 You may have bought already but my four JB greens measure between 34
 and 35mm the two most broken in being 34.8 and  35.1, I am not sure
 you are gaining anything with the Paselas.  I have been looking at the
 spec chart for the Racers too, but too cheap to pull the trigger,
 based on ETRO the 38 racers should be 40mm wide.  I have found the
 schwalbes measure true to stated ETRO data not what is on the box at
 times.  Proportionally it should be like moving up from Rolly Pollys
 to JB, the 38 racers are the next step as far as I can see.

 For the moment it is JB green for me.

 Rob

 On Apr 21, 2:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:





  I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and
  neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never
  destroyed a tire, and I habitually ride tires well beyond their
  intended use. I ride my Jack Brown Greens on hardpack trails with lots
  of sharp rocks sticking out of the dirt, and have only gotten one
  (pinch) flat in 6 months (tire probably only had 30-35 psi, because I
  am lazy about topping up). I just want something that won't wash out
  in deep sand as easily, and still be really nice on the road where I
  ride 70-80% of the time. For dedicated offroading, I have 42mm IRC
  Mythos XC Slicks, which do the job very well and still are decent on
  the road.

  On most of the skinwall tires I have had, the sidewalls turned
  threadbare (due to UV/ozone, I assume) before the tread wore out, and
  I'd much rather have that happen but have a supple tire than have a
  bomb-proof tire that feels dead. So I'll probably give the regular
  Marathons a miss. :)

  I am about ready to order the 35 Paselas, because I have the sneaking
  suspicion that the 38 Marathon Racers are actually skinnier than the
  35 Paselas, given that the 42 Supremes run 37.5 according to rivbike.
  If the Racers run true to size, please let me know as I may try them
  instead.

  Cheers,

  Gernot

  On Apr 21, 11:37 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

   You could just go with the basic wire bead Marathon that Riv sells:

  http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068

   They're not supple but they're not that bad, especially when you
   consider the price. The model Riv sells measures 41 so it should fit
   on the Hillborne. They're nice off road, durable and confidence
   inspiring.

   mike

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
   For more options, visit this group 
   athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text -

  - Show quoted text -

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread Mojo


On Apr 21, 3:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and
 neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never
 destroyed a tire,

Oh Gernot, you are so screwed. Apparently you haven't heard the old
saying, Man plans and plans and the tire gods just laugh.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread Shaun Meehan
Someone recently asked for the actual width of the 38mm Marathon
Racers. I measured mine with a digital caliper and, as I recall, they
were at about 39mm. They are mounted to Sun Ryno Lite rims, which are
fairly wide.

Shaun Meehan

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting, my 6 month old JB Greens measure 33.5mm on Synergies.

 I was under the impression that Schwalbe tires run narrow (judging
 from a few posts and from rivbike.com which says the 42 ETRTO Supremes
 are actually 37.5, the 47 Marathons are actually 41.5 and the 50 Big
 Apples are 44.5 (presumably on Synergies, the rim of choice at Riv).
 But Michael_S's 42 ETRTO Schwalbe Smart Sams (UK only) measure 41 knob
 to knob and 38 wall to sidewall (don't know what rim), so I guess
 severe undersizing isn't true for all Schwalbes. Does anyone have a
 Racer they can measure to compare stated with actual width?

 Cheers,

 Gernot


 On Apr 21, 9:22 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
 You may have bought already but my four JB greens measure between 34
 and 35mm the two most broken in being 34.8 and  35.1, I am not sure
 you are gaining anything with the Paselas.  I have been looking at the
 spec chart for the Racers too, but too cheap to pull the trigger,
 based on ETRO the 38 racers should be 40mm wide.  I have found the
 schwalbes measure true to stated ETRO data not what is on the box at
 times.  Proportionally it should be like moving up from Rolly Pollys
 to JB, the 38 racers are the next step as far as I can see.

 For the moment it is JB green for me.

 Rob

 On Apr 21, 2:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:





  I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and
  neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never
  destroyed a tire, and I habitually ride tires well beyond their
  intended use. I ride my Jack Brown Greens on hardpack trails with lots
  of sharp rocks sticking out of the dirt, and have only gotten one
  (pinch) flat in 6 months (tire probably only had 30-35 psi, because I
  am lazy about topping up). I just want something that won't wash out
  in deep sand as easily, and still be really nice on the road where I
  ride 70-80% of the time. For dedicated offroading, I have 42mm IRC
  Mythos XC Slicks, which do the job very well and still are decent on
  the road.

  On most of the skinwall tires I have had, the sidewalls turned
  threadbare (due to UV/ozone, I assume) before the tread wore out, and
  I'd much rather have that happen but have a supple tire than have a
  bomb-proof tire that feels dead. So I'll probably give the regular
  Marathons a miss. :)

  I am about ready to order the 35 Paselas, because I have the sneaking
  suspicion that the 38 Marathon Racers are actually skinnier than the
  35 Paselas, given that the 42 Supremes run 37.5 according to rivbike.
  If the Racers run true to size, please let me know as I may try them
  instead.

  Cheers,

  Gernot

  On Apr 21, 11:37 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

   You could just go with the basic wire bead Marathon that Riv sells:

  http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068

   They're not supple but they're not that bad, especially when you
   consider the price. The model Riv sells measures 41 so it should fit
   on the Hillborne. They're nice off road, durable and confidence
   inspiring.

   mike

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
   Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
   For more options, visit this group 
   athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text -

  - Show quoted text -

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



-- 
You received this message because you 

Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/21/10 4:48 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I have another question.  Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative
 to a 46x36x26 triple?

AASHTA -
If you haven't done so, I'd pay a visit to Sheldon's Gear Calculator.

http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/

You can play all kinds of what ifs there.  If you haven't worked with the
units of Gain Ratio or Gear-Inches, it's helpful to enter in some known
setups for reference first.


-- 
Jim Edgar
cyclofi...@earthlink.net

Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com
Current Classics - Cross Bikes
Singlespeed - Working Bikes


Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do
it.
Mahatma Gandhi


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr

2010-04-21 Thread Eric Norris
Lots of Rivendells were on this ride. My Riv Road and I finished the 250+ mile 
course in 17:18.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623758002717/


--Eric

Sent from my iPad

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread Mojo
 Does anyone have a
 Racer they can measure to compare stated with actual width?

 Cheers,

 Gernot

For my 559 wheels, the 1.5 inch Marathon Racer measures 40mm on a
Mavic 517 rim.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.

2010-04-21 Thread wile
Yes - I have read that before, but have been lazy.  It just seemed so
clean and easy to retire a set of tires at once (seriously - no pun
intended - it caught me by surprise).  Now, however, like many things
in life I will give in to peer pressure and start rotating front to
back.  Thanks guys - it will be much safer.

Dylan



On Apr 21, 6:40 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Apr 20, 11:55 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:

  I stopped rotating tires after reading this:
 http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire-rotation.html
  If anything, I'll rotate the front to the rear only, now.

  - J

 I was thinking the same thing Jim. Funny, I read that article for the
 first time only about a week ago. It makes sense.

 --mike

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread doug peterson
happyriding:

+1 for spending time with Sheldon's calculator.  Great tool.

Make a note of which gears you are actually using.  With 20+
combinations, most of us only really use a portion of what's there.
Especially note the highest gear you're comfortable with.  You may
find out you've got a cog or 2 at the top end you never use with the
big ring.  With 8-9-10 cogs, a double can be perfectly reasonable.
The important thing to understand is what you need for your riding,
and set it up to match.

My touring bike has a triple with wide range gearing, because I never
know what I'll get myself into.  My knock around town bike has an old
7 speed and a couple of orphan rings because it really doesn't
matter.

dougP

On Apr 21, 8:46 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 4/21/10 4:48 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I have another question.  Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative
  to a 46x36x26 triple?

 AASHTA -
 If you haven't done so, I'd pay a visit to Sheldon's Gear Calculator.

 http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/

 You can play all kinds of what ifs there.  If you haven't worked with the
 units of Gain Ratio or Gear-Inches, it's helpful to enter in some known
 setups for reference first.

 --
 Jim Edgar
 cyclofi...@earthlink.net

 Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
 Current Classics - Cross Bikes
 Singlespeed - Working Bikes

 Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do
 it.
     Mahatma Gandhi

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread RoadieRyan
+2 on the gear calulator

Sheldon's calculator is a great way to compare the pros and cons of
Triple vs Compact for me it comes down to whether the low gear will
get me up the hills I need to climb in Hilly West Seattle?  I just
switched from a 50/34 11/34 to a 46/36/26  11/32 to get 3 extra low
gears FWIW

Ryan

On Apr 21, 9:32 am, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 happyriding:

 +1 for spending time with Sheldon's calculator.  Great tool.

 Make a note of which gears you are actually using.  With 20+
 combinations, most of us only really use a portion of what's there.
 Especially note the highest gear you're comfortable with.  You may
 find out you've got a cog or 2 at the top end you never use with the
 big ring.  With 8-9-10 cogs, a double can be perfectly reasonable.
 The important thing to understand is what you need for your riding,
 and set it up to match.

 My touring bike has a triple with wide range gearing, because I never
 know what I'll get myself into.  My knock around town bike has an old
 7 speed and a couple of orphan rings because it really doesn't
 matter.

 dougP

 On Apr 21, 8:46 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:





  on 4/21/10 4:48 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:

   I have another question.  Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative
   to a 46x36x26 triple?

  AASHTA -
  If you haven't done so, I'd pay a visit to Sheldon's Gear Calculator.

 http://sheldonbrown.com/gears/

  You can play all kinds of what ifs there.  If you haven't worked with the
  units of Gain Ratio or Gear-Inches, it's helpful to enter in some known
  setups for reference first.

  --
  Jim Edgar
  cyclofi...@earthlink.net

  Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
  Current Classics - Cross Bikes
  Singlespeed - Working Bikes

  Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do
  it.
      Mahatma Gandhi

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Patrick in VT
On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.

this post is getting tagged as Exhibit Y (Y, as in you-have-to-be-
kidding-me) in my on going domestic trial, me vs. significant other
in re: why my bicycle habit really isn't that bad.  i have high hopes
that this will move me closer to a settlement.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread Earl Grey
Well, yes, I probably should just give up, buy some Hetres and a 650B
bike to go with them. :)

Another (probably ridiculous) option: Schwalbe Furious Freds, 50-622
ETRTO, 335g (!). Tiny knobs, not much rubber, high thread count
casing. Supposedly the fastest mtb tire ever. Anyone try it for mixed
road/off road? Probably won't last very long...
http://www.schwalbetires.com/furious_fred

Gernot

On Apr 21, 10:38 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Apr 21, 3:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

  I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and
  neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never
  destroyed a tire,

 Oh Gernot, you are so screwed. Apparently you haven't heard the old
 saying, Man plans and plans and the tire gods just laugh.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread William
Those Furious Freds look fun.  I love trying out tires.  Those would
be a kick to try.  $170 for a pair is a pretty expensive experiment,
though.  I'd almost pray that I don't like them.

On Apr 21, 10:06 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, yes, I probably should just give up, buy some Hetres and a 650B
 bike to go with them. :)

 Another (probably ridiculous) option: Schwalbe Furious Freds, 50-622
 ETRTO, 335g (!). Tiny knobs, not much rubber, high thread count
 casing. Supposedly the fastest mtb tire ever. Anyone try it for mixed
 road/off road? Probably won't last very 
 long...http://www.schwalbetires.com/furious_fred

 Gernot

 On Apr 21, 10:38 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  On Apr 21, 3:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

   I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and
   neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never
   destroyed a tire,

  Oh Gernot, you are so screwed. Apparently you haven't heard the old
  saying, Man plans and plans and the tire gods just laugh.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter Adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread MichaelH
Beeswax on the threads, an  interesting suggestion that is .   Give
that a go, I will. Get beeswax, I must.  ( I'm practicing my Yoda for
a Sat. costume party)

Not sure about the deraillers spring tension.. One Centaur medium
cage, one Centaur long cage and one Ultegra.

Michael

On Apr 21, 11:09 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Remember to beeswax the threads on the D-ring screw.  Liberally.
 Pretend that the hunk of beeswax is a crayon, and scratch it back and
 forth on the threads all around.  It helps a great deal.  Nature's loc-
 tite

 On Apr 21, 7:19 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:





  Michael,

  I have noticed that the silver shifters need more tightening on rear
  derailleurs that have a higher spring tension.

  My experience between DT and Bar end has been the opposite of
  yours...I don't understand why.   I end up tightening the DT silver
  shifters during most rides.

  Angus

  On Apr 21, 9:07 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

   Between my wife and I, we have four bikes with silver shifters, two DT
   and two BE.  The DT shifters can be set with a very light touch and
   hold that position without any loosening and skipping.  However the
   two BE need to be tightened down to a point where the shifting is much
   stiffer, and sill I find after a few days of riding the D ring will
   loosen a bit and the chain will jump gears.

   The only other variable I can think of is that the bikes with BE are
   more often ridden on dirt and rough roads.  Has anyone else noticed
   this?

   Michael

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
   For more options, visit this group 
   athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr

2010-04-21 Thread William
That's quite a ride.  Very well done.  Looks like you had close to
ideal weather.

On Apr 21, 8:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 Lots of Rivendells were on this ride. My Riv Road and I finished the 250+ 
 mile course in 17:18.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623758002717/

 --Eric

 Sent from my iPad

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Ethan
Scott,

I think you may have found the --I thought un-attainable-- point at
which you have too many bikes. I never thought I would say that to
anyone.

Ethan

On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
 right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
 various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
 Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.

 Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
 whole 650B thang.

 **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

 -Scott

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread Me
Oddly, I don't have that many by most standards...

I have my Bob Brown custom, a Big Dummy and a Pugsley.  And, of
course, as of last night, down in my basement, an unearthed Rivendell
Bleriot.

To the fella that asked: sure, I can take some fotos as I build her
up.  That would be fun!

To the other fella in PDX... yes indeedy, love to go for a ride!

-Scott



On Apr 21, 11:26 am, Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Scott,

 I think you may have found the --I thought un-attainable-- point at
 which you have too many bikes. I never thought I would say that to
 anyone.

 Ethan

 On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:



  ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
  right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
  various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
  Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

  Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
  'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
  parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
  beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
  unopened.
  Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
  laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
  cassette hub.

  Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
  whole 650B thang.

  **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

  -Scott

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr

2010-04-21 Thread Eric Norris
We did have great weather.

Next up is a 600-kilometer (375 mile) ride on May 22.

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:05 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's quite a ride.  Very well done.  Looks like you had close to
 ideal weather.
 
 On Apr 21, 8:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 Lots of Rivendells were on this ride. My Riv Road and I finished the 250+ 
 mile course in 17:18.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623758002717/
 
 --Eric
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr

2010-04-21 Thread Esteban
Wow, Eric - you made great time.  Congratulations!
Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Apr 21, 11:05 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's quite a ride.  Very well done.  Looks like you had close to
 ideal weather.

 On Apr 21, 8:46 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

  Lots of Rivendells were on this ride. My Riv Road and I finished the 250+ 
  mile course in 17:18.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623758002717/

  --Eric

  Sent from my iPad

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 07:26 -0700, MichaelH wrote:
 To answer two questions at once.  Indexed shifting a triple is more
 trouble than its worth.   It will need more adjustments and offer less
 trim finesse.  So, skip the indexing and the ramped rings.

I certainly agree with skipping the indexing for front shifting, but if
you have ramped and pinned chain rings, they don't hurt in any way.



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?

2010-04-21 Thread rperks
Genot,
I am putting together some tire data with pictures here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302...@n08/sets/72157623904189610/
I will look to see if this is being duplocated elsewhere, but will
ikely start a flikr group later today to pool data
Also, this is for 650b, 
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pZl-EANnWYi7hiDUv_KjoLw
but does anybody know of a pool of data like this for 700C?

Rob

On Apr 21, 10:06 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, yes, I probably should just give up, buy some Hetres and a 650B
 bike to go with them. :)

 Another (probably ridiculous) option: Schwalbe Furious Freds, 50-622
 ETRTO, 335g (!). Tiny knobs, not much rubber, high thread count
 casing. Supposedly the fastest mtb tire ever. Anyone try it for mixed
 road/off road? Probably won't last very 
 long...http://www.schwalbetires.com/furious_fred

 Gernot

 On Apr 21, 10:38 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:

  On Apr 21, 3:15 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote:

   I should have mentioned that durability is not an issue for me, and
   neither is flat protection. I hardly ever get flats, have never
   destroyed a tire,

  Oh Gernot, you are so screwed. Apparently you haven't heard the old
  saying, Man plans and plans and the tire gods just laugh.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter Adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread William
Any fabric store has beeswax for thread waxing, so you can get it
faster than Riv will ship it to you.  The fabric store size is
particularly handy in that it's a 2 diameter flat disc so it's easy
to hold and to scratch onto any bolt.  It's also convenient in that it
stays pretty clean in a little plastic case.  The dixie cup quantity
is neither of those things, although I suppose you could heat it up
and make it whatever shape you want.

On Apr 21, 11:02 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 Beeswax on the threads, an  interesting suggestion that is .   Give
 that a go, I will. Get beeswax, I must.  ( I'm practicing my Yoda for
 a Sat. costume party)

 Not sure about the deraillers spring tension.. One Centaur medium
 cage, one Centaur long cage and one Ultegra.

 Michael

 On Apr 21, 11:09 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:



  Remember to beeswax the threads on the D-ring screw.  Liberally.
  Pretend that the hunk of beeswax is a crayon, and scratch it back and
  forth on the threads all around.  It helps a great deal.  Nature's loc-
  tite

  On Apr 21, 7:19 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

   Michael,

   I have noticed that the silver shifters need more tightening on rear
   derailleurs that have a higher spring tension.

   My experience between DT and Bar end has been the opposite of
   yours...I don't understand why.   I end up tightening the DT silver
   shifters during most rides.

   Angus

   On Apr 21, 9:07 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

Between my wife and I, we have four bikes with silver shifters, two DT
and two BE.  The DT shifters can be set with a very light touch and
hold that position without any loosening and skipping.  However the
two BE need to be tightened down to a point where the shifting is much
stiffer, and sill I find after a few days of riding the D ring will
loosen a bit and the chain will jump gears.

The only other variable I can think of is that the bikes with BE are
more often ridden on dirt and rough roads.  Has anyone else noticed
this?

Michael

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group 
athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
   For more options, visit this group 
   athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] 5 boro bike ride in New York City?

2010-04-21 Thread rb
Anyone on this list (or the Kog or Ibob) going? I will be taking the
train down from the Berkshires, would be nice to organize a meetup
(maybe a little side trip through some of the more esoteric dining
spots in the outer boros as well?) .  Ron

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter Adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread rcnute
+1 on the beeswax for shifters...

Ryan

On Apr 21, 11:46 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any fabric store has beeswax for thread waxing, so you can get it
 faster than Riv will ship it to you.  The fabric store size is
 particularly handy in that it's a 2 diameter flat disc so it's easy
 to hold and to scratch onto any bolt.  It's also convenient in that it
 stays pretty clean in a little plastic case.  The dixie cup quantity
 is neither of those things, although I suppose you could heat it up
 and make it whatever shape you want.

 On Apr 21, 11:02 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:





  Beeswax on the threads, an  interesting suggestion that is .   Give
  that a go, I will. Get beeswax, I must.  ( I'm practicing my Yoda for
  a Sat. costume party)

  Not sure about the deraillers spring tension.. One Centaur medium
  cage, one Centaur long cage and one Ultegra.

  Michael

  On Apr 21, 11:09 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

   Remember to beeswax the threads on the D-ring screw.  Liberally.
   Pretend that the hunk of beeswax is a crayon, and scratch it back and
   forth on the threads all around.  It helps a great deal.  Nature's loc-
   tite

   On Apr 21, 7:19 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Michael,

I have noticed that the silver shifters need more tightening on rear
derailleurs that have a higher spring tension.

My experience between DT and Bar end has been the opposite of
yours...I don't understand why.   I end up tightening the DT silver
shifters during most rides.

Angus

On Apr 21, 9:07 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 Between my wife and I, we have four bikes with silver shifters, two DT
 and two BE.  The DT shifters can be set with a very light touch and
 hold that position without any loosening and skipping.  However the
 two BE need to be tightened down to a point where the shifting is much
 stiffer, and sill I find after a few days of riding the D ring will
 loosen a bit and the chain will jump gears.

 The only other variable I can think of is that the bikes with BE are
 more often ridden on dirt and rough roads.  Has anyone else noticed
 this?

 Michael

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
 Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group 
athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
   For more options, visit this group 
   athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?

2010-04-21 Thread Jeremy Till
oh man, just imagine that thing built up with a phil fixed gear mtn.
wheelset, bullmoose bars, a single front cantilever, and either those
60mm big apples or fat knobbiesperfect.

On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230

 Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show?
 Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on.  Even with
 the current state of the union something that created that much drool
 must have value.  No telling if that is the one though.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?

2010-04-21 Thread rcnute
All this talk of Bleriots got me thinking.  I'm maybe looking for a
59 frame/fork.  'Course, my maybes turn into ams, so...

Ryan

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread RoadieRyan
Damn  I wish I had me one them Magic basements!  Now I could probably
cobble something together from the flotsam and Jetsom in the garage
but a Schwinn Varsity isn't nearly as cool as a Bleriot..  Have fun
with the build Scott.  Maybe some White 42cm Grand Bois Hetres on
those synergys?

http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/images/HetreblancMR.jpg

R

On Apr 21, 11:32 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oddly, I don't have that many by most standards...

 I have my Bob Brown custom, a Big Dummy and a Pugsley.  And, of
 course, as of last night, down in my basement, an unearthed Rivendell
 Bleriot.

 To the fella that asked: sure, I can take some fotos as I build her
 up.  That would be fun!

 To the other fella in PDX... yes indeedy, love to go for a ride!

 -Scott

 On Apr 21, 11:26 am, Ethan ethan.bickf...@gmail.com wrote:





  Scott,

  I think you may have found the --I thought un-attainable-- point at
  which you have too many bikes. I never thought I would say that to
  anyone.

  Ethan

  On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:

   ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
   right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
   various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
   Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

   Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
   'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
   parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
   beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
   unopened.
   Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
   laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
   cassette hub.

   Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
   whole 650B thang.

   **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

   -Scott

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
   For more options, visit this group 
   athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread sjauch
If only I had a basement to hide things in. Lucky you!

On Apr 21, 3:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
 right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
 various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
 Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.

 Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
 whole 650B thang.

 **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

 -Scott

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: 5 boro bike ride in New York City?

2010-04-21 Thread sjauch
I'm not doing the 5Boro ride, I heard it's kind of a frustrating. I do
live in NYC though and wouldn't mind meeting up for some food and a
short spin.

On Apr 21, 2:59 pm, rb b...@projectblu.com wrote:
 Anyone on this list (or the Kog or Ibob) going? I will be taking the
 train down from the Berkshires, would be nice to organize a meetup
 (maybe a little side trip through some of the more esoteric dining
 spots in the outer boros as well?) .  Ron

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

2010-04-21 Thread RonLau
For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
town.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Dynamo Hub and Light - Novatech by Velo Orange?

2010-04-21 Thread Trent in TX
Hey there,

Does anyone have experience with the Velo Orange Novatech Dynamo hub?
At $50, it seems like a good value. Everything that I've bought from
Velo Orange in the past has been quality, and the product description
leads me to think that this is no exception.

http://www.velo-orange.com/nodyhub.html

As far as lights go, the Inoled from peterwhite cycles looks like a
winner. I know I want to go LED.

http://www.velo-orange.com/nodyhub.html

Any input is much appreciated!

Thanks,
Trent
Austin, TX

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne

2010-04-21 Thread Johnny Alien
Wow.  There is alot of great info here.  So the Hillborne is much
tougher than I originally though.

As far as the double top tube on the Hunqapillar...I typically ride a
53 frame which means I would need the 48 Hunqapillar (if that's what I
go with) which would not have the double top tube anyway.

Tough call..the Hunqa looks GREAT built up that way on the site but an
orange hillborne with big wheels and Bullmoose bars would probably
look equally great.

On Apr 21, 8:28 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Apr 21, 5:14 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:

  Hmmm...it seems like it is not a crazy idea at all then.  I now have
  options!  Does anyone know if the Hunqapillar colors on the site are
  the final colors?

 The last I read, they were thinking of offering two options: red panel/
 headtube and orange panel/headtube.

 As for the strength of the Sam Hillborne, here is what Rivendell
 Reader #41 (which is free to download) said when introducing the Sam
 Hillborne:

 ---
 The Sam may be even more versatile than the AHH, because the
 tubing is slightly thicker (same gauge as the Atlantis), so it more
 suited
 to loaded touring. With AHH clearance, Atlantis tubing gauges, and a
 fork that splits the diff, you can think of it as halfway between the
 Atlantis and A. Homer Hilsen.
 --

 I'm not sure what that fork comment is referring to (clearance?
 tubing?).

 I've read that the Atlantis tubing is butted .9/.6/.9.  And the same
 Riv Reader that introduces the Hillborne has an article about the
 Bombadil.  The article on the Bombadil says the tubing is .1 thicker
 than the Atlantis, so that would make the tubes on the Bombadil 1.0
 millimeter thick.  The article also says the Bomadil's down tube and
 double top tubes are straight gauge (no butting).   The Hunqapillar is
 described as having Bombadil stout tubing in the main tubes, which
 presumably means the top and down tubes (and that might also be the
 case for the down tube as well).

 In any case, the Hunqapillar has 1.0 mm tubing, and the Sam Hillborne
 and Atlantis have .9 mm tubing.   The Atlantis is recommended for
 fully loaded touring.  Therefore, it seems like the Sam Hillborne is a
 pretty stout bike.

 Also, are you aware that the double top tube design of the Hunqapillar
 has morphed into something different than depicted on the website?
 The second top tube is most likely going to angle down and join the
 seat tube in the middle of the seat tube.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

2010-04-21 Thread William
Nice video.  Thanks.  Rich can play.

On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
 Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
 town.

 Enjoy.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

2010-04-21 Thread RonLau
Bird's tune no less

On Apr 21, 2:21 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice video.  Thanks.  Rich can play.

 On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

  For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
  Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
  town.

  Enjoy.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

2010-04-21 Thread bfd


On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:
 For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
 Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
 town.

 Enjoy.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY

Nice video! Ron, thanks!  Btw, how do Rich's wheels compare to someone
like Len at the Bike Nook?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Schmidt/BM Bulbs for Sale

2010-04-21 Thread Eric Norris
I've switched to LED lighting, and have a number of spare bulbs to fit schmidt 
E6 and BM Lumotec headlights that I no longer need.  I'm not sure if these are 
the 2.4 or 3-watt versions (see 
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt-headlights.asp#bulbs).  Peter White 
sells them for $4.50 to $5.50; I'll send them to you for $2.50 each including 
postage. Limited quantities--contact me offline if you're interested.

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Dynamo Hub and Light - Novatech by Velo Orange?

2010-04-21 Thread Eric Norris
Haven't used one, but I like the look of that connector--nice and beefy!

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Trent in TX trent.thi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey there,
 
 Does anyone have experience with the Velo Orange Novatech Dynamo hub?
 At $50, it seems like a good value. Everything that I've bought from
 Velo Orange in the past has been quality, and the product description
 leads me to think that this is no exception.
 
 http://www.velo-orange.com/nodyhub.html
 
 As far as lights go, the Inoled from peterwhite cycles looks like a
 winner. I know I want to go LED.
 
 http://www.velo-orange.com/nodyhub.html
 
 Any input is much appreciated!
 
 Thanks,
 Trent
 Austin, TX
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Wind!

2010-04-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
A Sam Hill with big, boxy Axiom Panniers and a big, boxy Ostrich bag is a
barn door in our spring winds. I just rode 8 miles in the hooks straight
south into a southerly 28 g 35. This builds patience and strength of
character.

The Axioms -- half price at AE Bike, $44 -- are big, drape-over Dutch-style
shopping panniers, just one big empty space on each side with no annoying
side pockets, zippers, compartments or cinches: just good old fashioned
emptiness, big enough with room to spare for a full paper grocery sack,
each; and a fitted flap with two, simple fastek buckles. I'll take photos
when I get the attachments for my new Canon.

Probably not up to touring, but better than my Ortleib Packers for shopping.

Oh, and big bar bags act like wind rudders in gusty sidewinds; keep a firm
grip on your bar!

-- 
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
(505) 227-0523

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

2010-04-21 Thread RonLau
OK, this can get me in trouble.  Keep in mind this is MY option.  YMMV
of course.

Rich crossed US before (he is talking about doing it again btw), he
knows touring bike, and what kind of wheels you need.  He also has a
tandem, xtracycle and other all rounders type of bike.  So he knows
touring and what to make a wheel last.

Len used to race, tubulars world. Currently his Della Santa is Dura
Ace 10s with Downtube index shifter.

I can say all my Rich wheels NEVER has a problem before, has not true
them once, no broken spokes.  Some of the road in SF can be a little
rough.

I also have wheels Len build, a set of Campy Centuar hub with FIR Tour
rim, he trued them once after 10 years.  The nipples are turing green
but I plan on riding them until something break.  He build a Chorus/OP
wheel for me, it

So, IMHO, either one can build you a set of wheels that last a long
time.  They come from different background but their wheels last for
me.  For ref. I weight 165 and most of my wheels are 32 spokes, a few
28 and a few 36.

Ron



On Apr 21, 2:29 pm, bfd bfd...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Apr 21, 1:54 pm, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote: For those of you who 
 don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
  Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
  town.

  Enjoy.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY

 Nice video! Ron, thanks!  Btw, how do Rich's wheels compare to someone
 like Len at the Bike Nook?

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: fatter tires for 26 wheels

2010-04-21 Thread JGS
I second the 1.5 Marathon Racers.  I run them on my Atlantis in NYC.
When I first got the bike I was running 1.5 inch Paselas and they felt
slow.   I switched to 1.25 T-Servs.  I liked them but somehow wanted
something cushier.  The Racers feel very fast and cushier.  I'd be
curious to try the 1.5 Paselas again to see if I was fair to them.
The Racers have flatted on me a couple of times while i never ever got
a flat with the T-Servs.

On Apr 20, 6:56 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
 On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Beth H wrote:

  Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I would like to echo Patrick's thoughts. Beth, Patrick, and I are all
  riding Rivendell 26ers, with higher trail than the Kogswells used in
  the BQ tests.

  I am not an expert on bike gemometry. That said, I keep wondering if
  there is a correlation between wheel size and frame size that changes
  the ride quality as well? I've mostly heard responses here from guys
  who ride much bigger frames than I do. Would a larger frame (and
  longer chainstay lengths, and bigger everything else) change the ride
  quality that much? Would it change the tire choice substantially? It
  sounds like it's up to the individual rider, but I remain curious.
  Obviously, a 1.5 Pasela seems to been a good solution for me, but my
  frame is a 53cm c-t (55cm c-c top tube). How would this be for someone
  who rides a 60cm frame? Would it make a difference at all?

 Mine (1996) is a 59.5 with a 59 cm top tube.  So the top tube is  
 about 4 cm longer than yours.  I don't know if the chainstays are  
 longer, but even if they are the same the wheelbase would be maybe 4  
 cm longer, depending on the front geometry.  If the chainstays are  
 longer, then my wheelbase might be longer still.

 All other things being equal, a bike with a longer wheelbase will be  
 more stable.  I suspect a small/short top tube, low-trail bike with  
 really short chain stays and skinny hard tires would be like riding  
 one of those bikes with two wheels that steer.

 The best handling bike (for racing, back when I raced) I ever rode is  
 my Ritchey with 700 x 23 Michelin Super Course slicks.  It had the  
 perfect balance of stable and nimble for racing.  Now that I don't  
 race, I still ride it but not as much.  I prefer slightly fatter  
 tires and a bit more stability at the expense of some nimbleness; the  
 Ritchey will fit 25s and I might be able to squeeze in 28s, but it  
 doesn't handle as nice with the bigger tires.  I ride the Riv A/R  
 most of the time and my homebrew 3 speed the almost all the rest of  
 the time.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] OT: Respect you wheel builder, Rich to be exact

2010-04-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Pretty good, Rich. -- Even though I am not a jazz fan -- prefer white boy
blues (Paul Butterfield, Eric Clapton: think Crossroads.)

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:54 PM, RonLau ron...@ronlau.com wrote:

 For those of you who don't know, Rich works as a musician in Bay
 Area.  Last night I went and see him and his wife play at a cafe in
 town.

 Enjoy.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwumDTwukgY

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
(505) 227-0523

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread velomann
In my basement, all I discovered was that the litter box needs
changing, and that the Peugeot mixte, the Rockhopper, the abandoned-by-
a-homeless-person-on-my-front-lawn Motobecane mixte, and the 83' Trek
are all still waiting to be rebuilt. Couldn't find a Rivy anywhere,
and I was so sure...

Scott and MJ, I'm in too on the ride. Let's make it happen soon. Wish
the OR's had a populaire planned, but we can always do our own.
Probably would get to sleep in a bit if we did.

And Scott, I think you and your daughter should consider volunteering
as intersection superheroes for a Sunday Parkways event. Bring your
sticks, a plastic bucket or 2, and a bunch of sidewalk chalk. And
maybe a cape or 2. Just an idea.

On Apr 21, 12:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
 right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
 various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
 Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.

 Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
 whole 650B thang.

 **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

 -Scott

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Schmidt/BM Bulbs for Sale

2010-04-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Will those work on any incandescent headlight? I have an old Sanyo on the
Sam Hill.

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I've switched to LED lighting, and have a number of spare bulbs to fit
 schmidt E6 and BM Lumotec headlights that I no longer need.  I'm not sure
 if these are the 2.4 or 3-watt versions (see
 http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt-headlights.asp#bulbs).  Peter
 White sells them for $4.50 to $5.50; I'll send them to you for $2.50 each
 including postage. Limited quantities--contact me offline if you're
 interested.

 --Eric

 Sent from my iPad

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
(505) 227-0523

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Schmidt/BM Bulbs for Sale

2010-04-21 Thread Eric Norris
Not sure. See if Peter White has a picture of them and compare with yours.

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:12 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Will those work on any incandescent headlight? I have an old Sanyo on the Sam 
 Hill.
 
 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 I've switched to LED lighting, and have a number of spare bulbs to fit 
 schmidt E6 and BM Lumotec headlights that I no longer need.  I'm not sure if 
 these are the 2.4 or 3-watt versions (see 
 http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schmidt-headlights.asp#bulbs).  Peter White 
 sells them for $4.50 to $5.50; I'll send them to you for $2.50 each including 
 postage. Limited quantities--contact me offline if you're interested.
 
 --Eric
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Patrick Moore
 Albuquerque, NM
 For professional resumes, contact
 Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
 (505) 227-0523
 
 
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much

2010-04-21 Thread doug peterson
Uh, Scott, if you ever need any storage space for stuff like that, let
me know!  I'll look after the good stuff until you remember.

dougP

On Apr 21, 12:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...just walked down into our basement to get a tool, looked over to my
 right and was curious what was in one of our many boxes from our
 various relocations in the past 3 years [first, from the NYC area to
 Minnesota, and then, now, to Portland, OR].

 Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell
 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box.  Some nice
 parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a
 beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and
 unopened.
 Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims,
 laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King
 cassette hub.

 Me thinks I am going to finally build this thing up and try out the
 whole 650B thang.

 **no wonder my wife continually reminds me I am an idiot**

 -Scott

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding
Good point about constantly needing the in between gears.  The problem
is I don't know where that is for a touring bike.   I only have a road
bike, which is set up with a 53x39 and 13-29, which works well for me
in all types of terrain.

I was thinking about the possibility of coupling the pending Velo
Orange Gran Cru crank ($125), which is a 46x30 double, with a
Rivendell/Shimano 12-36 9 speed cassette.  That would result in a
lower top end than a 53x13 (110.1 v. 103.5).

Any comments on whether that is practical?  Are doubles just not used
for touring bikes?

Thanks.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread happyriding

On Apr 21, 5:11 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Good point about constantly needing the in between gears.  The problem
 is I don't know where that is for a touring bike.   I only have a road
 bike, which is set up with a 53x39 and 13-29, which works well for me
 in all types of terrain.

 I was thinking about the possibility of coupling the pending Velo
 Orange Gran Cru crank ($125), which is a 46x30 double


I forgot to mention, the Gran Cru has matching ramps and pins.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 16:11 -0700, happyriding wrote:
 Good point about constantly needing the in between gears.  The problem
 is I don't know where that is for a touring bike.   I only have a road
 bike, which is set up with a 53x39 and 13-29, which works well for me
 in all types of terrain.

So try loading up your road bike with 20 lb of rocks in a bag and see
how that affects your overall gearing.  I'd guess you'll need a gear
probably 2 shifts lower for any given incline over what you'd need
unloaded.  



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread William
...and the 46/30 is predicted to be $175, not $125.  Still a bargain

http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2010/02/grand-cru-crank.html



On Apr 21, 4:14 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Apr 21, 5:11 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Good point about constantly needing the in between gears.  The problem
  is I don't know where that is for a touring bike.   I only have a road
  bike, which is set up with a 53x39 and 13-29, which works well for me
  in all types of terrain.

  I was thinking about the possibility of coupling the pending Velo
  Orange Gran Cru crank ($125), which is a 46x30 double

 I forgot to mention, the Gran Cru has matching ramps and pins.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne

2010-04-21 Thread andrew hill
I'll say that my Hillborne, with 40 Maraton Supremes, rides like a tank.  

A really expensive tank, with amazing suspension.  The Deore XTs and Mavic 
A719s and 36h lacing might have something to do with that, too.

I'm 200+ and typically ride with a timbuktu and a left pannier, lock/cables, 
etc... haven't ever felt a more glossy ride from a bike, though i can still 
feel the road perfectly, if that makes any sense.  
because it's so sturdy i do find it's much more important to unweight the 
seat on this bike or i get bounced, but that's more about my riding skills than 
anything.

-andrew


On Apr 21, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:

 Wow.  There is alot of great info here.  So the Hillborne is much
 tougher than I originally though.
 
 As far as the double top tube on the Hunqapillar...I typically ride a
 53 frame which means I would need the 48 Hunqapillar (if that's what I
 go with) which would not have the double top tube anyway.
 
 Tough call..the Hunqa looks GREAT built up that way on the site but an
 orange hillborne with big wheels and Bullmoose bars would probably
 look equally great.
 
 On Apr 21, 8:28 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Apr 21, 5:14 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 Hmmm...it seems like it is not a crazy idea at all then.  I now have
 options!  Does anyone know if the Hunqapillar colors on the site are
 the final colors?
 
 The last I read, they were thinking of offering two options: red panel/
 headtube and orange panel/headtube.
 
 As for the strength of the Sam Hillborne, here is what Rivendell
 Reader #41 (which is free to download) said when introducing the Sam
 Hillborne:
 
 ---
 The Sam may be even more versatile than the AHH, because the
 tubing is slightly thicker (same gauge as the Atlantis), so it more
 suited
 to loaded touring. With AHH clearance, Atlantis tubing gauges, and a
 fork that splits the diff, you can think of it as halfway between the
 Atlantis and A. Homer Hilsen.
 --
 
 I'm not sure what that fork comment is referring to (clearance?
 tubing?).
 
 I've read that the Atlantis tubing is butted .9/.6/.9.  And the same
 Riv Reader that introduces the Hillborne has an article about the
 Bombadil.  The article on the Bombadil says the tubing is .1 thicker
 than the Atlantis, so that would make the tubes on the Bombadil 1.0
 millimeter thick.  The article also says the Bomadil's down tube and
 double top tubes are straight gauge (no butting).   The Hunqapillar is
 described as having Bombadil stout tubing in the main tubes, which
 presumably means the top and down tubes (and that might also be the
 case for the down tube as well).
 
 In any case, the Hunqapillar has 1.0 mm tubing, and the Sam Hillborne
 and Atlantis have .9 mm tubing.   The Atlantis is recommended for
 fully loaded touring.  Therefore, it seems like the Sam Hillborne is a
 pretty stout bike.
 
 Also, are you aware that the double top tube design of the Hunqapillar
 has morphed into something different than depicted on the website?
 The second top tube is most likely going to angle down and join the
 seat tube in the middle of the seat tube.
 
 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 
 -- 
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group at 
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread rswatson





On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:41, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:


On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 07:26 -0700, MichaelH wrote:

To answer two questions at once.  Indexed shifting a triple is more
trouble than its worth.   It will need more adjustments and offer  
less

trim finesse.  So, skip the indexing and the ramped rings.


I certainly agree with skipping the indexing for front shifting, but  
if

you have ramped and pinned chain rings, they don't hurt in any way.


They might. I once got a pinned large ring by mistake and whenever I  
was in the small ring, the pins on the big ring would snag the chain,  
making lots of irritating noises. I foolishly tried to drill the pins  
out, but just ended up destroying the ring.


Ryan

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Wind!

2010-04-21 Thread James Dinneen
Cannot find the web page for AE. Pictures would be good. Jim  D.    
Massachusetts

--- On Wed, 4/21/10, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com
Subject: [RBW] Wind!
To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 5:35 PM

A Sam Hill with big, boxy Axiom Panniers and a big, boxy Ostrich bag is a barn 
door in our spring winds. I just rode 8 miles in the hooks straight south into 
a southerly 28 g 35. This builds patience and strength of character.

The Axioms -- half price at AE Bike, $44 -- are big, drape-over Dutch-style 
shopping panniers, just one big empty space on each side with no annoying side 
pockets, zippers, compartments or cinches: just good old fashioned emptiness, 
big enough with room to spare for a full paper grocery sack, each; and a fitted 
flap with two, simple fastek buckles. I'll take photos when I get the 
attachments for my new Canon.

Probably not up to touring, but better than my Ortleib Packers for shopping.
Oh, and big bar bags act like wind rudders in gusty sidewinds; keep a firm grip 
on your bar!


-- 
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
(505) 227-0523








-- 

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.

To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.


For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.






  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?

2010-04-21 Thread cyclotourist
Have you checked your basement?

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote:

 These seem to be getting tougher to find. I absolutely love mine.

 On Apr 21, 3:25 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
  All this talk of Bleriots got me thinking.  I'm maybe looking for a
  59 frame/fork.  'Course, my maybes turn into ams, so...
 
  Ryan
 
  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
  For more options, visit this group athttp://
 groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?

2010-04-21 Thread JoelMatthews
 Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the
 rear, Repack Revisited.

We are of a like mind.  I need another bike like I need another hole
in my head.  Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back
coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new
Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling.

On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote:
 Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the
 rear, Repack Revisited.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 18:11 -0600, rswat...@me.com wrote:
 
 
 
 On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:41, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 
  On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 07:26 -0700, MichaelH wrote:
  To answer two questions at once.  Indexed shifting a triple is more
  trouble than its worth.   It will need more adjustments and offer  
  less
  trim finesse.  So, skip the indexing and the ramped rings.
 
  I certainly agree with skipping the indexing for front shifting, but  
  if
  you have ramped and pinned chain rings, they don't hurt in any way.
 
 They might. I once got a pinned large ring by mistake and whenever I  
 was in the small ring, the pins on the big ring would snag the chain,  
 making lots of irritating noises. I foolishly tried to drill the pins  
 out, but just ended up destroying the ring.

I have quite a few bikes with bar end shifting and ramped and pinned
chain rings, and in my experience, they shift better than unramped,
unpinned chain rings.  And I've never experienced pins snagging chains
or making annoying noises.

As always, YMMV...



-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Wind!

2010-04-21 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Search Axiom Dutch Pannier and Alfred E Bike; they were there a couple of
weeks ago; and they are elsewhere on the web, too. Will post photos of SH
when I can. PAM

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:47 PM, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Cannot find the web page for AE. Pictures would be good. Jim  D.
 Massachusetts

 --- On *Wed, 4/21/10, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com
 Subject: [RBW] Wind!
 To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 5:35 PM

 A Sam Hill with big, boxy Axiom Panniers and a big, boxy Ostrich bag is a
 barn door in our spring winds. I just rode 8 miles in the hooks straight
 south into a southerly 28 g 35. This builds patience and strength of
 character.

 The Axioms -- half price at AE Bike, $44 -- are big, drape-over Dutch-style
 shopping panniers, just one big empty space on each side with no annoying
 side pockets, zippers, compartments or cinches: just good old fashioned
 emptiness, big enough with room to spare for a full paper grocery sack,
 each; and a fitted flap with two, simple fastek buckles. I'll take photos
 when I get the attachments for my new Canon.

 Probably not up to touring, but better than my Ortleib Packers for
 shopping.

 Oh, and big bar bags act like wind rudders in gusty sidewinds; keep a firm
 grip on your bar!

 --
 Patrick Moore
 Albuquerque, NM
 For professional resumes, contact
 Patrick Moore, ACRW at 
 resumespecialt...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=resumespecialt...@gmail.com
 (505) 227-0523



  --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.


  --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Patrick Moore
Albuquerque, NM
For professional resumes, contact
Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
(505) 227-0523

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] 'nother free-bee: SPuD Sandals

2010-04-21 Thread cyclotourist
Sheldon's favorites:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4388483206/

Pretty well gone, but still have some life in 'em.  Size 43/44.  I wear 10
1/2 US and they're just a touch small for me.

$5 should cover shipping in the CONUS

-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none

2010-04-21 Thread amoll68
Hap,

Loaded touring bike: you're probably gonna want that triple AND a big
cassette in the rear - unless you don't mind resting or walking (Kent
Petersen's 24 inch gear) when you totally bonk on that big climb.

On my AHH country bike/sport tourer with a light load: I LOVE my TA
46-30, Simplex SLJ up front, 12-27 Ultergra/Dura Ace rear. I live and
ride in the Cascade Foothills, and can think of only one occasion
where I've used the lowest gear. I occasionally use my second lowest
gear, but spend most of my time in the big ring on the rolling hills.
It's by far my favorite gearing setup, and I've tried (and have) a lot
of different setups. However, I don't think this would be ideal for a
long tour with a heavy load.

WRT the 46-30 and the 12-36 rear: it might work okay, might even work
well. I have a feeling the trick may be finding the right front
derailleur, and I'm thinking something from the 70's or 80's with a
wide cage. I first tried a modern FSA compact for my Hilsen setup, and
never could get it dialed in right (rubbing problems, and some
shifting problems.) The old Simplex SLJ doesn't appear to have the
correct radius for the 46T ring, but it works great!

Trial and error can be fun - especially when you create that winning
combo, but it can also be frustrating and expensive. Good luck!

Alex

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] 'nother free-bee: SPuD Sandals

2010-04-21 Thread cyclotourist
Well, you missed out on those Paramount shoes, so guess it's about time your
number came up... ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, Me!

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sheldon's favorites:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4388483206/

 Pretty well gone, but still have some life in 'em.  Size 43/44.  I wear 10
 1/2 US and they're just a touch small for me.

 $5 should cover shipping in the CONUS

 --
 Cheers,
 David
 Redlands, CA

 Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
 wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
 scientist guy

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




 --
 Patrick Moore
 Albuquerque, NM
 For professional resumes, contact
 Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
 (505) 227-0523



  --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?

2010-04-21 Thread Ron MH
Joel,

Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Paul brakes won't work if those
canti studs are set up for cantis and not the Paul centerpulls. The
two have different stud mounting positions. The idea is pretty cool,
though.

It is a bizarro design from a Rivendell perspective. Assuming that
this is the rejected custom in question, I can't get my head around
why Grant would have let that set of frame choices get out the door
given his (and the company's) very a particular velosophy.

Ron

On Apr 21, 6:41 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
  Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the
  rear, Repack Revisited.

 We are of a like mind.  I need another bike like I need another hole
 in my head.  Nevertheless, the thought of a Riv frame with a kick back
 coaster brake hub - maybe Bull Moose bars up front - perhaps the new
 Paul RacerM for a front brake? - really sets the mind a reeling.

 On Apr 21, 8:09 am, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote:

  Maybe the new Sturmey Archer kickback hub with coaster brake for the
  rear, Repack Revisited.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
  For more options, visit this group 
  athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: 'nother free-bee: SPuD Sandals

2010-04-21 Thread cyclotourist
I'll keep checking around in the basement and see what I can find!

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 damn... I'm late to the party again!  If you find some size 11.5 let
 me know  :-}

 ~Mike~

 On Apr 21, 8:27 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well, you missed out on those Paramount shoes, so guess it's about time
 your
  number came up... ding, ding, ding, we have a winner!
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:14 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Oh, Me!
 
   On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 8:58 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Sheldon's favorites:
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4388483206/
 
   Pretty well gone, but still have some life in 'em.  Size 43/44.  I
 wear 10
   1/2 US and they're just a touch small for me.
 
   $5 should cover shipping in the CONUS
 
   --
   Cheers,
   David
   Redlands, CA
 
   Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is
 something
   wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill
 Nye,
   scientist guy
 
   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com
   .
   For more options, visit this group at
  http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 
   --
   Patrick Moore
   Albuquerque, NM
   For professional resumes, contact
   Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com
   (505) 227-0523
 
--
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 .
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com
   .
   For more options, visit this group at
  http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 
  --
  Cheers,
  David
  Redlands, CA
 
  Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
  wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
  scientist guy
 
  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
  For more options, visit this group athttp://
 groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text -
 
  - Show quoted text -

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



[RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?

2010-04-21 Thread RoadieRyan
LOL good one David

On Apr 21, 6:11 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Have you checked your basement?

 On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote:



  These seem to be getting tougher to find. I absolutely love mine.

  On Apr 21, 3:25 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
   All this talk of Bleriots got me thinking.  I'm maybe looking for a
   59 frame/fork.  'Course, my maybes turn into ams, so...

   Ryan

   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
  .
   For more options, visit this group athttp://
  groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
  RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
  rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
  .
  For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 Cheers,
 David
 Redlands, CA

 Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
 wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
 scientist guy

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 For more options, visit this group 
 athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



Re: [RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?

2010-04-21 Thread cyclotourist
I'll be here all week, folks!

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:01 PM, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote:

 LOL good one David

 On Apr 21, 6:11 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Have you checked your basement?
 
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net
 wrote:
 
 
 
   These seem to be getting tougher to find. I absolutely love mine.
 
   On Apr 21, 3:25 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
All this talk of Bleriots got me thinking.  I'm maybe looking for a
59 frame/fork.  'Course, my maybes turn into ams, so...
 
Ryan
 
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 
   .
For more options, visit this group athttp://
   groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 
   --
   You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups
   RBW Owners Bunch group.
   To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 .
   To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
   rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 
   .
   For more options, visit this group at
  http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
 
  --
  Cheers,
  David
  Redlands, CA
 
  Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
  wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
  scientist guy
 
  --
  You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
  To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
  To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
  For more options, visit this group athttp://
 groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.

 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
 RBW Owners Bunch group.
 To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
 To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
 rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com
 .
 For more options, visit this group at
 http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.




-- 
Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym.  ~Bill Nye,
scientist guy

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW 
Owners Bunch group.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



  1   2   >