[RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet

[Tony Lockhart]

Don't despair. You really do not need "that much" work to get it to
fit onto your bike. I've got a Nitto rack on my Sam, but recently
purchased the VO rack because $55 seemed like too good of a deal to
pass up.

I currently have the VO rack installed on my Surly Steamroller. Now, I
did have to grind down the bold underneath the crown about a quarter
inch, but it wasn't a big deal. The p-clamps worked like a charm and I
had to do minimal bending to get the rack to fit properly. Don't give
up; try to install it.

tony

On Apr 24, 8:34 am, "William L. Stump"  wrote:
> I played with it yesterday and I don't think it's going to work without major 
> finagling. The included bolt that hangs from the brake bolt almost touches 
> the front tire. I should have got the Marks rack but the price was off 
> putting but now I'm out $55 (no returns on VO specials). Oh well live and 
> learn.
> William
> 
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> On Behalf Of William [tapebu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:05 AM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet
>
> Another big part to the Marks Rack versatility is that is can be mated
> to a platrack.  Four Nitto front racks (two Marks, two Mini Fronts) in
> my stable.  One Platrack means any of those four bikes can be set up
> Porteur style at the drop of a hat.  That reminds me..it's getting
> close to the time to pick which bike is going on the Angel Island S24O
> in two weeks.
>
> On Apr 22, 11:03 pm, "J. Burkhalter"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey Steve,
>
> > I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks.    I just
> > prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack.  I bought mine years ago
> > for front use on my Ram.  Since then it has served good time on an
> > Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey..  Front and rear.  I
> > don't think it's superior at anything.  It's just decent to good at
> > more things than most racks out there.  I like that kind of value.
>
> > -Jay B.
>
> > On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > > On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote:
>
> > > > If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p-
> > > > clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack.
>
> > > Why?  In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a
> > > P-clamp installation?
>
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[RBW] Re: Yesterday's Ride to Napa

[Joe Bernard]

Very cool, and very close to my home.

Fairfield, CA.

On Apr 24, 5:29 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUPACr9YUpU&sns=em
>
> --Eric Nwww.Campyonly.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Yesterday's Ride to Napa

[Eric Norris]

Yes, that's the plan. I'm working on my equipment and technique.

--Eric
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On Apr 24, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Jim M. wrote:

> Cool video as always, Eric! Are you going to shoot the PBP too?
> 
> 
> On Apr 24, 5:29 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUPACr9YUpU&sns=em
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Re: [RBW] Re: Yesterday's Ride to Napa

[Eric Norris]

I don't think I'd ride Jamieson during rush hour, but on a Sunday afternoon it 
wasn't too bad. They've widened part of it, and there's a pretty wide bike 
path. Worst part was waiting for a break in traffic to turn left at the end to 
pick up the bike path.

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On Apr 24, 2011, at 7:55 PM, reynoldslugs wrote:

> very enjoyable.  I'm glad you made it back safely after risking
> Jamieson Canyon Road.  That's a very sketchy road for cyclists...
> Thanks for posting such a fine vid.  I used to do that ride a lot in
> the 80's.  From Davis to Berryessa via Winters, over to Napa Valley
> and meet The Girl at the Oakville Deli for lunch. Then ride back.  Lot
> of miles on a my Mercian - - with Davis-built wheels (Wheelworks - -
> Dave and Bryne Peterson).
> 
> RL
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[RBW] Creeper Trail jaunt

[Leslie]

I took Friday off to go for a ride, but the weather wasn't quite
pleasant that day, but promised to be better.  (Forecast for Friday
hadn't been good, but I was being optimistic.)  Yesterday and today
have been beautiful here, though.

So yesterday, put the Rambouillet and my son's Motobecane cross bike
on the rack, took off for Damascus to ride the Creeper...

For those of you not familiar with, the Virginia Creeper Trail is a 34-
mi rails-to-trail path in southwestern Virginia.  One end of it is in
Abingdon, Damascus is close to the middle, and the top of it is at
Whitetop.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Virginia_Creeper_Trail#Riding_the_Virginia_Creeper_Trail)

The good thing about the Creeper is that it's beautiful.  The downside
is its popularity.   Large crowds will flock to it, rent a bike for
the day, have a shuttle take them to the top at Whitetop Station, then
they have a coasting 17-mile downhill bike ride, then one flat mile
back to Damascus.   They often treat it like it's a one-way path, not
noticing people that are actually pedaling up.   The Abingdon-Damascus
half (16-mi-long) is usually less crowded, is rolling through
farmland, whereas the Whitetop-Damascus half (18-mi) is through
forest.

I've done the downhill bit before myself, playing tourguide for
visiting groups, talking about the geology, natural history of the
area.  But since I've started taking riding more seriously over the
past couple of years, I've begun riding instead of using the
shuttles.   To date, I'd usually broken it up into pieces.  I'd
started in Abingdon, ridden to Damascus, then back to Abingdon.
Likewise, I'd started in Damascus, ridden up Whitetop, then back down
to Damascus.Each trip ends up being 32 to 36 miles long (depending
on which parking lot you start from, if you go past the Whitetop
Station on to the NC state line, etc.).

But yesterday, I wanted to attempt to do it all.  And, not just a one-
way trip, but, to cover the whole trail, there and back.   But, I
didn't want to be risky either.   So, we started in Damascus, rode up
to Abingdon, then back down to Damascus, through town, and on towards
Whitetop.

Trip started well.  The path is a combination of graveled near the
trailheadish areas, but dirt-path when further from access points.
First thing I noticed, is the difference in tires.  Last summer, I'd
had 32 Paselas on the Ram.   After slashing my sidewall, I'd swapped,
and put on RuffyTuffys, so my fenders would fit.  I'd been liking the
Ruffys on my other road rides and paved bike trails, but really
noticed the decrease in floatation on the sandier patches we'd
occasionally hit.   Not too bad on the Damascus-Abingdon leg,
though.   Had a Hillborne pass us going the other way, and spotted a
gal on a blue Rambouillet at the Abingdon trailhead. Promptly turned
around, and part way back we passed the Hillborne going the other
way.   Ran into a friend who'd paused on one of the numerous trestles,
admiring the view, we chatted for a few before we rolled on.

Once back to Damascus, rode the flat out of town alongside Hwy 58
towards Whitetop, then you cross Hwy 91 beside the intersection with
58, and start to climb.   Pretty quick, having the first thirty-some
miles behind us, we were feeling it when we started up.   And, started
hitting more sandy patches...  as much as I like to pick on the fact
that 'mountain bikes' are overkill on this trail, I have to admit that
a fatter tire would have been better.  I could peel the fenders off, I
suppose, and go with even bigger than my previous 32s, but, I admit to
liking having my fenders on there when you cross puddles in the
trail... you spot people with stripes up their back, but not
I...  :)

But, as much as I was enjoying the ride, it was starting to grind.  We
made it to Taylor's Valley, and I was wanting to make it to Green Cove
(the community before you reach the top at Whitetop), but, I bonked.
I reached a point where I told Alex, we need to stop.   Munched our
bananas and granola bars, downed a good bit of water, rested for ten
minutes, fifteen minutes or so.   Then, pointed our bikes back
downhill.   When we made it back to the truck in Damascus, we'd done
52 miles.  If, if I'd managed to get on up to Whitetop before turning
around, we'd have done 68, so, yeah, were about 8mi short of the end
of the trail when we turned back.

But, it felt good.   Yeah, sore, (worse, sunburned... didn't think
about sunscreen, thinkin' about being in the woods, but, there's
enough open fields, well, I should have had suncreen on).   But,
I've felt worse before... get home from a fastish 20-mi ride (well,
fashish for me),  then crash for an hour, feeling wretched, before I
start to recover.   This time, even though I was working to ride it,
wasn't feelin' bad.

So I'm tempted... thinkin' about the Burnsville Metric next
weekend...   Think it might be a good follow-up. (Truth be told, this
Creeper ride was a test run to see if I thought I could handle the
metr

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Ken Freeman]

Yes, I can see that it might, but I think the real requirement is to come as
close as possible to getting the maximum height of the ischial tuberosities
above the foot sole.  They are a bit lower than some other anatomical
features of the pelvis, I think.  And to compress the intervening tissue as
it would be on a saddle.

At least that's my interpretation.  I haven't had any formal fitting
training.  Plus it may not matter, if we fine-tune out saddle heights on the
road based on leg extension, knee pressure and comfort, and pelvic rocking.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> But I think the value of the framing square is that it's so thin, it kind
> of gets right up in there. Hopefully, you're not doing this often enough or
> long enough that comfort is big issue...
>
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Ken Freeman wrote:
>
>> A large book does the same thing, and will be more comfortable, hence
>> easier to shove up there.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Rambouilleting Utahn 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Borrow a framing square and place it against a wall before pulling it
>>> upwards. As long as the wall to floor joint is square and you get the
>>> square past  your junk you can now easily measure your true PBH with a
>>> tape measure. Just measure the distance between the top of the square
>>> and the floor. If you don't have a metric tape remember 2.54 is your
>>> multiplier.
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[RBW] Re: Yesterday's Ride to Napa

[reynoldslugs]

very enjoyable.  I'm glad you made it back safely after risking
Jamieson Canyon Road.  That's a very sketchy road for cyclists...
Thanks for posting such a fine vid.  I used to do that ride a lot in
the 80's.  From Davis to Berryessa via Winters, over to Napa Valley
and meet The Girl at the Oakville Deli for lunch. Then ride back.  Lot
of miles on a my Mercian - - with Davis-built wheels (Wheelworks - -
Dave and Bryne Peterson).

RL

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Re: [RBW] Hilsen Saturday, Quickbeam Sunday

[Dan Abelson]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:37 PM, CycloFiend wrote:

> Just some photos -
>
> Saturday -
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626439406809/
>
> Today -
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626445832861/
>
> Hope all's y'alls got some miles or something equally enjoyable.
>
> - J
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>
Looks good.  I did the reverse this weekend.  Quickbeam Saturday and a nice
50 miler on my Hilsen Sunday.

Dan

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[RBW] Re: Yesterday's Ride to Napa

[Jim M.]

Cool video as always, Eric! Are you going to shoot the PBP too?


On Apr 24, 5:29 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Hilsen Saturday, Quickbeam Sunday

[Robert Harrison]

No photos, but just finished about 32 miles on my Quickbeam. Didn't ride a 
Hilsen yesterday though. Sigh. 

Your ride looked like a beaut. Mine was more urban, but it did take me around 
Diamond Head which is always fun (if crowded); great view.

Aloha!

Bob

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 24, 2011, at 3:37 PM, CycloFiend  wrote:

> Just some photos - 
> 
> Saturday - 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626439406809/
> 
> Today - 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626445832861/
> 
> Hope all's y'alls got some miles or something equally enjoyable.
> 
> - J
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> -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light"
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[RBW] Hilsen Saturday, Quickbeam Sunday

[CycloFiend]

Just some photos - 

Saturday - 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626439406809/

Today - 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157626445832861/

Hope all's y'alls got some miles or something equally enjoyable.

- J

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[RBW] Re: wtt: 57cm Homer Hilsen for 56cm Atlantis

[Eric Wolforth]

PS - There is also a small chip in the top tube near the headset.

On Apr 23, 4:33 pm, Eric  wrote:
> I took possession of a brand new 57cm AHH from Riv, it features the
> "lighter blue" paint. It has very low milage as it was just built up
> in early March and I'm in Chicago so in early March there is few days
> for good riding due to the weather.
>
> There is a chip in the paint on the headtube but otherwise great
> shape.
>
> I visited Riv last April and measured my PBH at 84.3 (though Grant
> said I coulda pulled harder!) and despite noting that I could do
> either a 57-59 on the Riv catalog I kept wondering if a 59 AHH would
> be a better fit.
>
> A 59cm AHH popped up locally and after some hemming & hawing I picked
> it up. & it feels/rides great
>
> So...I have this 57cm AHH frame/fork/hs and I'm looking to see if
> anyone would want to trade for used Atlantis frame in 56cm but please
> note I'm looking for one w/ the mid-level eyelets on the front fork.
>
> It's a long shot but I figured I'd throw it out there!
>
> I'll get some photos taken ASAP. Thanks!
>
> - Eric

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[RBW] For trade: Fizik Aliante saddle kium black for Selle An Atomica Clydesdale LD Watershed black

[Rod C]

If anyone would like to do this trade the Fizik is in like new
condition.

Thanks,

Rod

Please message me direct for trade info.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Eric Daume]

But I think the value of the framing square is that it's so thin, it kind of
gets right up in there. Hopefully, you're not doing this often enough or
long enough that comfort is big issue...

Eric



On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Ken Freeman wrote:

> A large book does the same thing, and will be more comfortable, hence
> easier to shove up there.
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Rambouilleting Utahn 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Borrow a framing square and place it against a wall before pulling it
>> upwards. As long as the wall to floor joint is square and you get the
>> square past  your junk you can now easily measure your true PBH with a
>> tape measure. Just measure the distance between the top of the square
>> and the floor. If you don't have a metric tape remember 2.54 is your
>> multiplier.
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[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?

[Wally]

Thanks, everyone!

I'll take it off tomorrow night and let you know what I find.
Hopefully it is the bolt's threads that stripped. Or maybe it was my
imagination.

I like the idea of a button head bolt screwed through from the drive
side. With that, the conditions of the thread on the frame don't
matter.

And I will take care of this before I'm at the back of beyond and it
decides to let loose, I promise.

Wally

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[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?

[EricP]

My method for drive side screws is to just search my parts bowl for
something that is close, then use a washer (or 2) on the outside of
the rack to keep things flush on the inside.  It also depends on how
close the freewheel/cassette is to the frame.  On the Sam Hillborne,
it's not too close, so a few threads don't matter.

Wally - I'll join the chorus of saying remove the bolt (slowly and
carefully), grease a new bolt and slowly install that.  If nothing
breaks, you'll probably be fine.  Broke a bolt on my Fargo last year.
Took the mechanic at my LBS some extra time to extract that bolt and
get things fixed.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 24, 2:10 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> On drive side rack eyelets, I use a button head cap screw installed
> from the inside so it becomes a stud onto which the rack strut mounts
> and is retained with a nut.  Button heads are a low profile, domed
> head allen so there's less chance of interference with the chain.  The
> rear wheel must usually be removed to install one from the inside but
> I usually do it once and leave it in place, regardless of whether the
> rack is on.
>
> The "belt'n'suspenders" approach to rack mounting is to use bolts long
> enough to go thru all the threaded eyelets with enough thread out the
> other side for a washer, lock washer and nylok nut.  Also carry a
> small selection of extra rack hardware on tour.  And zip tiesand
> duct tape.
>
> dougP
>
> On Apr 23, 1:57 pm, Wally  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello!
> > I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the
> > right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The
> > bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped
> > the threads on the frame.
>
> > What should I do about this?
>
> > Thanks for your help and advice.
> > Wally- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[EricP]

Mike,

Tarp is a non-starter.  Too many skeeters and ticks to feel
comfortable doing that.  I have the ability to draw copious amounts of
mosquitoes.  Usually results in wearing long sleeves at night even in
hot summer weather.  More likely to pick up a Eureka Spitfire or REI
Quarterdome.  Can't justify the price of a Hilleberg or Tarptent.  As
much as weight, am looking for something that takes up less space on
the top of a rack.  Also have to learn to lash the poles onto the
frame.

And Anne - your point is well taken.  I'm more likely to dress like
you in weather such as that.  Although instead of a Goretex jacket,
would probably tag along an extra Filson heavy shirt.

Still, am jealous of Manny and his tour.  Only now do I consider what
we have around here as touring weather.  Although have seen a few
folks who may be doing the Nothern Tier pass through.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 24, 11:13 am, Mike Irwin 
wrote:
> Mummy bag + Tarp. Another option would be a bivy. I've got a
> Mountainsmith solo bivy that I use as a backup, in the event that I
> need to stake out a spot on a day hike that I've somehow under-
> estimated.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Ken Freeman]

A large book does the same thing, and will be more comfortable, hence easier
to shove up there.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:

>
> Borrow a framing square and place it against a wall before pulling it
> upwards. As long as the wall to floor joint is square and you get the
> square past  your junk you can now easily measure your true PBH with a
> tape measure. Just measure the distance between the top of the square
> and the floor. If you don't have a metric tape remember 2.54 is your
> multiplier.
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[RBW] Yesterday's Ride to Napa

[Eric Norris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUPACr9YUpU&sns=em

--Eric N
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[RBW] Re: WTB: A Few Final Items for My Build

[numbnuts]

Hey Mike,
I have a Crystal Fellow in 27.2 in the parts box.

Kindest Regards,
Chris
Redding, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: NOS Suntour Freewheel, or other High Quality Freewheel: 32,34, or 36t preferred

[Mike]

How's the quality on the current Shimano FWs? Are they more reliable
than the IRD FWs?

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RE: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet

[Steve Palincsar]

On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 09:34 -0600, William L. Stump wrote:
> I played with it yesterday and I don't think it's going to work
> without major finagling. The included bolt that hangs from the brake
> bolt almost touches the front tire. I should have got the Marks rack
> but the price was off putting but now I'm out $55 (no returns on VO
> specials). Oh well live and learn.

So offer it for sale!  It will work on other bikes.  I saw a Bob Jackson
Audax model yesterday that had a VO Randonneur front rack mounted with
clamps on the fork blades.



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[RBW] Re: Bleriot Photos Posted

[Lynne Fitz]

Ooooh! Shiny!  Beautiful!

On Apr 23, 2:31 pm, islaysteve  wrote:
> As promised, the photos of my newly-built Bleriot are 
> here:https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/Bleriot2011?authke...
>
> I hope it works.  Since I had to sign up for Google to join this
> group, it only made sense to use Google's photo program.  It does seem
> very easy to use.
>
> Details of the build are in my initial post, but you can see most of
> it in the photos.  Today has turned out to be a delightful Spring
> day.  Of course I got a ride in, did some other useful things, and
> took shots of the new baby.  Let me know if you have any problem
> seeing them.  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Any Plans For A New RBW Wool Jeresy?

[Lynne Fitz]

How about women's sizing?  I've Woolistic jerseys in both mens (there
is no such thing as unisex; ask most women) and womens.  I'll never
buy another "unisex" jersey.  Ever.

Lynne

On Apr 22, 11:59 am, Anne Paulson  wrote:
> How about a heathered color, like the Dark Green Heather on this page:
>
> http://www.knitpicks.com/yarns/Wool_of_the_Andes_Worsted_Yarn__D54201...
>
> Other
> than the handsome undyed grays, the Riv jerseys tend to be in colors that
> make the jersey look like it's synthetic. A beautiful heather in bluer or
> grayer tones would show off that the jersey is wool, not synthetic.
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Larry Powers wrote:
>
> >  I know that this list is monitored by certain people at RBW so I am
> > posting this here.  Are there any plans for another run of wool RBW jerseys?
>
> --
> -- Anne Paulson
>
> My hovercraft is full of eels

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[RBW] Re: Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?

[doug peterson]

On drive side rack eyelets, I use a button head cap screw installed
from the inside so it becomes a stud onto which the rack strut mounts
and is retained with a nut.  Button heads are a low profile, domed
head allen so there's less chance of interference with the chain.  The
rear wheel must usually be removed to install one from the inside but
I usually do it once and leave it in place, regardless of whether the
rack is on.

The "belt'n'suspenders" approach to rack mounting is to use bolts long
enough to go thru all the threaded eyelets with enough thread out the
other side for a washer, lock washer and nylok nut.  Also carry a
small selection of extra rack hardware on tour.  And zip tiesand
duct tape.

dougP

On Apr 23, 1:57 pm, Wally  wrote:
> Hello!
> I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the
> right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The
> bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped
> the threads on the frame.
>
> What should I do about this?
>
> Thanks for your help and advice.
> Wally

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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[doug peterson]

Manny:

There's a number variables but my most basic package for a warm
weather, lodging tour is around 25 lbs in 2 panniers.  Camping gear
adds another 2 panniers and 10 lbs (includes bag weight).  Cooler
weather calling for more wool & rain jacket maybe another 5 lbs (??).
No cooking gear included in these figures.

dougP

On Apr 23, 10:21 pm, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> a picture of it. It never really happened)
> Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> math teacher.)
> Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> -Manny

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Re: [RBW] Possible stripped threads on frame ... what to do?

[CycloFiend]

on 4/23/11 1:57 PM, Wally at wwer...@gmail.com wrote:
> I was installing a rack on my A. Homer Hilsen, and tightening down the
> right-side strut on the frame, when I felt it all sort of give. The
> bolt seems to be stable, but I am concerned that I may have stripped
> the threads on the frame.
> 
> What should I do about this?

It's more likely you stripped the bolt. It's probably a good idea to pull it
and try another, different bolt first.  Grease the threads and go easy. I'd
probably install the bolt with nothing else attached to see if you can get
it to chase all the way through without issue.

If you did gank the frame, you should be able to have it retapped one size
up. (M4 -> M5, for exmple).

But, it's probably better to know now, rather than some distant place when
you have to bodge something together to reach your destination.

- J

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[RBW] Bleriot Photos Posted

[islaysteve]

As promised, the photos of my newly-built Bleriot are here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/109191668701158452616/Bleriot2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCMuAptL6_fyIGg#

I hope it works.  Since I had to sign up for Google to join this
group, it only made sense to use Google's photo program.  It does seem
very easy to use.

Details of the build are in my initial post, but you can see most of
it in the photos.  Today has turned out to be a delightful Spring
day.  Of course I got a ride in, did some other useful things, and
took shots of the new baby.  Let me know if you have any problem
seeing them.  Cheers, Steve

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[RBW] wtt: 57cm Homer Hilsen for 56cm Atlantis

[Eric]

I took possession of a brand new 57cm AHH from Riv, it features the
"lighter blue" paint. It has very low milage as it was just built up
in early March and I'm in Chicago so in early March there is few days
for good riding due to the weather.

There is a chip in the paint on the headtube but otherwise great
shape.

I visited Riv last April and measured my PBH at 84.3 (though Grant
said I coulda pulled harder!) and despite noting that I could do
either a 57-59 on the Riv catalog I kept wondering if a 59 AHH would
be a better fit.

A 59cm AHH popped up locally and after some hemming & hawing I picked
it up. & it feels/rides great

So...I have this 57cm AHH frame/fork/hs and I'm looking to see if
anyone would want to trade for used Atlantis frame in 56cm but please
note I'm looking for one w/ the mid-level eyelets on the front fork.

It's a long shot but I figured I'd throw it out there!

I'll get some photos taken ASAP. Thanks!

- Eric

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[RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires.

[islaysteve]

Pretty bike!  It's similar in color to my Bleriot.  Enjoy it.

On Apr 23, 3:35 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> William,
> That is great!
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: William 
> >Sent: Apr 23, 2011 10:56 AM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires.
>
> >And the build is complete.  The clincher wheelset isn't ready yet, but
> >I did one shake-down ride on the tubulars, and was satisfied enough
> >with the fit to wrap twine and shellac the bars.  It's ready to ride!
> >I'm amazed how un-low this bike was geared to start with.  42x21 was
> >the lowest gear.  I have it all the way down to a 34x24 granny and
> >it's still barely rideable in the East Bay Hills.
>
> >Photos on my flickr  
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5646425361/in/photostream/
>
> >On Apr 19, 1:01 pm, William  wrote:
> >> I'm well on my way to converting a 1984 Trek 770 into a retro-modern
> >> all road bike.  Two shortcomings of my current road bike (a Davidson
> >> Signature) were that it doesn't take a tire wider than 700x25, and
> >> that it fits like a racing bike.  I had it custom built in my youth,
> >> and so now to get the bars up I had to use a Technomic Deluxe which is
> >> excellent but I think it looks a little less than ideal to have a ton
> >> of seatpost and a ton of stem showing.  It makes the frame look too
> >> small.
>
> >> Anyway, this Trek is a couple cm taller than my Davidson, so I hope to
> >> get a similar fit with a regular proportioned stem.  I finished
> >> stripping the bike down, and I'll start selling off a lot of the Campy
> >> Super Record parts through the normal channels.  I got my compact
> >> double crankset, and I've secured a few freewheels for various gearing
> >> options.  The recent highlight is that I've confirmed that a 
> >> 700x27RolyPolywill fit (no fender).  I'm thrilled about that, and it was
> >> something that I wasn't sure would work out.  If the bike turns out as
> >> well as I hope, I might get it powdercoated.  I bought some
> >> Resurrectio stickers from Riv on that chance.
>
> >> Riv content:  Higher bars, fearlessly riding a 30 year old lugged
> >> steel MUSA frameset,RolyPolytires bought from Riv, not being retro
> >> for retros sake.
>
> >> Pics on my flickr:
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626511175478/
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Re: [RBW] Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Khalid Mateen]

I think if you are sure that standing over your Rambouillet and the top tube
is approximately 80cm, then I would get another assistant to double check
your measurements with a ruler.  It could be an error in the assistant not
measuring correctly.  In which case, check and double check to make sure you
are confident in your measurement of PBH.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jay LePree  wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> I am thinking of purchasing a new Rivendell for the wider tires tires
> (currently ride a "Creamsicle" Rambouillet (size 54 cm)).  When I try
> to pull up my sticks that hold the tape measure, my fine assistant
> gets values of around 75 to 76 cm.  However, I can stand over my
> Rambouillet as outfitted and still bend slightly at the knees (still
> in stocking feet spread 10 inches apart), and the height of the top
> tube from the floor is approximately 80 cm, therefore I know my PBH is
> at least 80 cm, and probably slightly higher as I can still bend my
> knees when straddling the top tube.  (I am 5 foot 6 inches tall, and a
> PBH of 80 cm is consistent with Rivendell literature.)
>
> In the grand scheme of things, a very minor problem to have, but it
> does make me wonder why I cannot seem to pull up on my paint sticks to
> get a more accurate measurement.
>
> Jay
> Demarest, NJ
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Re: [RBW] Bike Tour Stuff.

[robert zeidler]

And where are we headed my friend?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:21 AM, manueljohnacosta
 wrote:
> As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> a picture of it. It never really happened)
> Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> math teacher.)
> Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> -Manny
>
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Re: [RBW] Bike Tour Stuff.

[Jack Warman]

I can't speak to "average," but for a 3-4 day trip, I typically roll out of
the house with 50-55 lbs.

My biggest weight splurges are my coffee setup (I'm a bit of a snob in that
area).  I carry a grinder, filters a filter cone, scoop and several pounds
of coffee - for my spring group tour, enough for a half dozen guys for 4
days.  All this probably accounts for 10% of my weight.

Other splurge is my camp chair. It has not provided the value I wanted, as
I've always found myself in places with ample picnic table seating. But I
was told early in my touring adventures that it's worth having a chair
around after a good long day on the saddle. The chair gets one last chance
this spring.  :-)  It, too, accounts for about 10%.

Everything else is a little heavier than it would be were I hiking. I figure
it's worth taking advantage of the fact that I'm on wheels rather than feet.

Jack
 On Apr 24, 2011 1:21 AM, "manueljohnacosta" 
wrote:
> As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> a picture of it. It never really happened)
> Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> math teacher.)
> Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> -Manny
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Khalid Mateen]

That is the best idea I have ever heard of for measuring the PBH on your
own.  The framing square should be long enough for you to get accurate
measurements.  You can get an assistant to just mark a wall with a
pencil were you are squaring and measure from the wall to get your PBH.
Good idea.

K.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote:

>
> Borrow a framing square and place it against a wall before pulling it
> upwards. As long as the wall to floor joint is square and you get the
> square past  your junk you can now easily measure your true PBH with a
> tape measure. Just measure the distance between the top of the square
> and the floor. If you don't have a metric tape remember 2.54 is your
> multiplier.
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[RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[redsydude]

If you are buying an expanded frame model like the Sam Hillborne you
don't have to be so accurate because each frame size fits a wide range
of PBHs. I think the 52 cm Sam Hillborne fits 78 wrote:
> Yes, pull up with force and off to the side. The highest value of
> several attempts will be the closest to your true PBH. You can't
> measure too high.
>
> On Apr 23, 7:16 pm, Jay LePree  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all:
>
> > I am thinking of purchasing a new Rivendell for the wider tires tires
> > (currently ride a "Creamsicle" Rambouillet (size 54 cm)).  When I try
> > to pull up my sticks that hold the tape measure, my fine assistant
> > gets values of around 75 to 76 cm.  However, I can stand over my
> > Rambouillet as outfitted and still bend slightly at the knees (still
> > in stocking feet spread 10 inches apart), and the height of the top
> > tube from the floor is approximately 80 cm, therefore I know my PBH is
> > at least 80 cm, and probably slightly higher as I can still bend my
> > knees when straddling the top tube.  (I am 5 foot 6 inches tall, and a
> > PBH of 80 cm is consistent with Rivendell literature.)
>
> > In the grand scheme of things, a very minor problem to have, but it
> > does make me wonder why I cannot seem to pull up on my paint sticks to
> > get a more accurate measurement.
>
> > Jay
> > Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text -
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RE: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet

[William L. Stump]

I played with it yesterday and I don't think it's going to work without major 
finagling. The included bolt that hangs from the brake bolt almost touches the 
front tire. I should have got the Marks rack but the price was off putting but 
now I'm out $55 (no returns on VO specials). Oh well live and learn.
William

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of William [tapebu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 10:05 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: installing front rack on Rambouillet

Another big part to the Marks Rack versatility is that is can be mated
to a platrack.  Four Nitto front racks (two Marks, two Mini Fronts) in
my stable.  One Platrack means any of those four bikes can be set up
Porteur style at the drop of a hat.  That reminds me..it's getting
close to the time to pick which bike is going on the Angel Island S24O
in two weeks.

On Apr 22, 11:03 pm, "J. Burkhalter"  wrote:
> Hey Steve,
>
> I didn't mean to suggest any superiority amongst racks.I just
> prefer the versatility of the Mark's rack.  I bought mine years ago
> for front use on my Ram.  Since then it has served good time on an
> Atlantis, a Bleriot , a QB, and a Karate Monkey..  Front and rear.  I
> don't think it's superior at anything.  It's just decent to good at
> more things than most racks out there.  I like that kind of value.
>
> -Jay B.
>
> On Apr 22, 5:22 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 16:19 -0700, J. Burkhalter wrote:
>
> > > If you don't have the appropriate braze-ons you'll have to use p-
> > > clamps, and I'd still probably trade the VO for the Mark's Rack.
>
> > Why?  In what way is Mark's Rack superior to the VO rack assuming a
> > P-clamp installation?

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[RBW] Motobecane photos

[PATRICK MOORE]

Photos of '73 Grand Record I offered for sale the other day.

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#

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But in you is the Presence that will be
When all the stars are dead.
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[RBW] Just Another Ride, 4-23-11 - a set on Flickr

[Eric Norris]

Photos and video clips from yesterday's ride.  Enjoy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157626567420798/with/5649781841/
 


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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: NOS Suntour Freewheel, or other High Quality Freewheel: 32,34, or 36t preferred

[Bruce]

Has anyone mentioned Loose Screws? I got a NOS D-A 7 speed that has worked 
perfectly for the last 2,000 miles or so on a 650B conversion I'm riding. Their 
selection varies.

http://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi?c=Freewheel&id=53224695651




>
>From: Mike 
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:33 AM
>Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB: NOS Suntour Freewheel, or other High Quality 
>Freewheel: 32,34, or 36t preferred
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[Kelly Sleeper]

Welcome to the great divide.  I tour on big bikes with big tires and am 
there to site see with average loaded touring day of about 50 to 60 miles.
I will carry 80lbs of gear without worry and have room.  Yes it can be made 
less, but I like having extension cords, extra shoes, blue jeans, and 
such.   Now 80 is the high end with evenings in low 30's days in the high 
70's' and lots of rain.  Then a normal predictable time of year I can get 
away with 60ish lbs.  
 
Yes i can go across country with a tarp and sleeping bag on a carbon bike 
and an extra pair of spandex in my rear jersey pocket .. for me it's just 
not comfy enough.  Experiance also shows me that a 4 man dome tent weighs 
about 3 to 4 pounds more than the 2 man tent.. 4 man tent is great and 
roomy.   Both extremes are fun for those doing them... I'm just more of the 
weight doesn't matter end of the chain.
 
I have nothing against going light it's just not for ME.  I also don't worry 
about weight as the primary worry. Gear the bike correctly for terrain and 
you will have no problems in my opinion.. yes take the coffee pot..yes strap 
on the three legged sitting chair.. yes bring the extra cooking pot.. and 
for those chilly morning the french press is really nice to have as well.   
 
Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires.

[William]

The clincher wheelset is on there now, with 700x27 Roly Poly tires and
a 14-28 freewheel.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5650333288/


On Apr 24, 8:32 am, William  wrote:
> Nice quality freewheels with a 28 or bigger are hard to come by, as
> others on other threads on this board frequently lament.  I have a
> 14-28 6sp Shimanopore freewheel on the clinchers that will be revealed
> soon.  I have a suntour perfect 6 speed in a 13-26 which might be
> delightful.  The final gearing choices will in part be influenced by
> where the bike resides.  I had kicked off this project to equip my
> parents and/or in-laws with a road bike for me to use when we visit.
> We are down there 3 or 4 times a year.  Spreading to a 130mm is on my
> list of options, so I can run a current cassette.
>
> On Apr 24, 5:56 am, MichaelH  wrote:
>
> > Nice bike William. I like the way these older standard gage 531C ride
> > and hope it gives you a lot of joy.  Why struggle with a 24; why not
> > just go to a 27 or 28?
>
> > My winter project was rebuilding a 1984 Trek 620.  I spread the stays
> > just so I could go to a cassette with a 12 cog, which allows for a
> > smaller set of rings.  In this case 48/34/ 26.  But the 34/27 will
> > handle pretty much everything after some spring riding.
> > michael
>
> > On Apr 19, 4:01 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > > I'm well on my way to converting a 1984 Trek 770 into a retro-modern
> > > all road bike.  Two shortcomings of my current road bike (a Davidson
> > > Signature) were that it doesn't take a tire wider than 700x25, and
> > > that it fits like a racing bike.  I had it custom built in my youth,
> > > and so now to get the bars up I had to use a Technomic Deluxe which is
> > > excellent but I think it looks a little less than ideal to have a ton
> > > of seatpost and a ton of stem showing.  It makes the frame look too
> > > small.
>
> > > Anyway, this Trek is a couple cm taller than my Davidson, so I hope to
> > > get a similar fit with a regular proportioned stem.  I finished
> > > stripping the bike down, and I'll start selling off a lot of the Campy
> > > Super Record parts through the normal channels.  I got my compact
> > > double crankset, and I've secured a few freewheels for various gearing
> > > options.  The recent highlight is that I've confirmed that a 700x27
> > > Roly Poly will fit (no fender).  I'm thrilled about that, and it was
> > > something that I wasn't sure would work out.  If the bike turns out as
> > > well as I hope, I might get it powdercoated.  I bought some
> > > Resurrectio stickers from Riv on that chance.
>
> > > Riv content:  Higher bars, fearlessly riding a 30 year old lugged
> > > steel MUSA frameset, Roly Poly tires bought from Riv, not being retro
> > > for retros sake.
>
> > > Pics on my flickr:
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626511175478/

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Re: [RBW] WTB: A Few Final Items for My Build

[PATRICK MOORE]

I have none to sell, but I recommend the King Iris cages: sturdy, nice
looking, hold even a heavy ss bottle securely, and at about $20 very
reasonable.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mike Irwin
 wrote:
> Hey Everyone!
>

> Bottle cages - Silver in color, preferred. But, then again, I'd
> consider pretty much any color. I've got a nice set of Klean Kanteens
> that I love.
>

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[RBW] Conti Four Seasons FS

[Eric Norris]

Pair of used 700x25 Continental Grand Prix Four Season tires for sale.  One was 
mounted on the front and has minimal wear, the other on the rear and some 
visible wear. No cuts or damage.

$40 shipped in the US of A.

Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157626442621753/

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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[manueljohnacosta]

I second the tarp and the sleeping bag. One of the best advise I got
about fair weather problems while camping came from experience Boy
Scout leader. One of the scouts asked in dismay, "If we're not
sleeping in tents what happens if it rains?" The scout master simply
replies, " Then you'll get wet and it will probably be miserable."
True words to live by. Bring a tarp and a sleeping bag in fair weather

On Apr 24, 9:13 am, Mike Irwin  wrote:
> Mummy bag + Tarp. Another option would be a bivy. I've got a
> Mountainsmith solo bivy that I use as a backup, in the event that I
> need to stake out a spot on a day hike that I've somehow under-
> estimated.
>
> I've been a big fan of ultra-light backpacking and I try to keep my
> packs sub-30lbs. That doesn't leave a lot of room for error, but I've
> also realized that I tend to overpack.
>
> However, I'd leave the Maxim mag in there out of pure necessity. Can't
> leave the reading materials out of the picture.
>
> :)
>
> On Apr 24, 8:01 am, EricP  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm jealous.  Would take until late June (at least) before could pack
> > that light of clothing for a trip.
>
> > As an aside- have also been looking for a smaller/lighter tent, but
> > hard to decide on something.  Especially one that would fit the
> > Rivendell sold sleeping bag easily.  (Mine is either a non-mummy or
> > very minimal mummy version.)
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Apr 24, 7:46 am, MichaelH  wrote:
>
> > > Personally, I'd leave the dog home, and spring for a lighter tent.
> > > michael
>
> > > On Apr 24, 1:24 am, manueljohnacosta 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Pictures proved that I packed 
> > > > :http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157626439125925/
>
> > > > On Apr 23, 10:21 pm, manueljohnacosta 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> > > > > traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> > > > > I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> > > > > it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> > > > > I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> > > > > a picture of it. It never really happened)
> > > > > Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> > > > > As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> > > > > gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> > > > > packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> > > > > scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> > > > > between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> > > > > math teacher.)
> > > > > Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> > > > > -Manny- Hide quoted text -
>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[Dave Craig]

Manny

The average weight for our tours is about 40 pounds each, including
the weight of the panniers, for my wife and I. That allows us to carry
more when we wish to. For example, carrying six packs of beer or a
watermelon to camp from the last store. I seldom use a handlebar bag
and, unless I'm carrying extra food, I never have a load on top of any
rack. Everything I carry fits in my panniers. Packing for a nice tour?
Our last tour was Seattle, WA to Klamath Falls, OR along the spine of
the Cascades. Pretty nice!

Dave

On Apr 23, 10:21 pm, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> a picture of it. It never really happened)
> Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> math teacher.)
> Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> -Manny

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[RBW] FS: 52cm Bombadil F&F one last $$ drop

[williwoods]

If you can pay today (paypal) I will do $1100 shipped.

cant believe im going this low. Desperate measures..

this sucks.

Will



On Apr 22, 3:50 pm, williwoods  wrote:
> Frame and Fork for $1300 shipped? or best offer.
>
> I think thats a very fair price, if im off my rocker please let me
> know.
>
> Need the money this weekend. I would rather it went to someone on
> here. Hell, maybe I could buy it back eventually, lol.
>
> On Apr 22, 8:23 am, williwoods  wrote:
>
>
>
> > $1400 Shipped?
>
> > as much as I would rather keep her, im motivated to sell.
>
> > On Apr 21, 8:10 am, williwoods  wrote:
>
> > > Offers on F&F? I need to sell asap, I will consider reasonable offers.
> > > These were $2500 new
>
> > > dont be shy, Im in a wheeling and dealing sorta mood.
>
> > > On Apr 20, 7:34 am, williwoods  wrote:
>
> > > > Decided to part with the Frame & Fork only at this point. I may decide
> > > > to sell some of the parts after the FF sells. Will not include
> > > > headset.
>
> > > > This thing is clean.
>
> > > > $1650 Shipped in the lower 48, via UPS.
>
> > > > I really need the $$, help me out. My plan is to get back on my feet
> > > > and eventually buy another FF, so I can build it back similar.
>
> > > > Will
>
> > > > On Mar 30, 11:19 am, williwoods  wrote:
>
> > > > > Man this is really tough, not at all what I want to do, I love this
> > > > > Bike.
>
> > > > > I have some serious unexpected expenses that have forced me to make
> > > > > some tough decisions. Hence this is going up for sale.
>
> > > > > I am the 3rd Owner of this Frame, Fork and Wheels. They were barely
> > > > > used by the first owner and the 2nd owner never even finished building
> > > > > it back up, so practically speaking I am the 2nd owner to ride the
> > > > > bike, although it looks like the 1st owner maybe put a 100 miles on
> > > > > it. It still looks brand new. The only evidence of wear when I got it
> > > > > was the brake surface on the rims, they had very light marks.
>
> > > > > Condition is a solid 9/10 on the frame and fork. No scratches, dents
> > > > > or anything else to be worried about.
>
> > > > > The Specialized/Nitto Dirt Drop Stem is the only part on the bike that
> > > > > has scuffs and a scratch. If it bothers you get a new stem.
>
> > > > > Also the fenders are a little less than perfect with a few dents and 2
> > > > > extra holes drilled for a front rack. I covered the holes with Foil
> > > > > Tape, looks about as good as one could hope, I never got around to
> > > > > buying a front rack like I had planned.
>
> > > > > Everything else on the Bike has maybe 500 or so miles on it from new.
> > > > > Wheels are true and no hops. Tires have plenty of life left although I
> > > > > did buy them 2nd hand.
>
> > > > > Frame and Fork: 52cmBombadilclear over raw color Twined and
> > > > > Shellac'd chainstay.
> > > > > Headset: Cane Creek Classic 100 1"
> > > > > Cages: Nitto R and Electra/Nitto knockoff cage
> > > > > Seatpost: Nitto Lugged
> > > > > Saddle: Brooks B-17 Special
> > > > > Stem: Specialized/Nitto Dirt Drop
> > > > > Bars: Sycip Singles Bar
> > > > > Grips/bartape: Rivendell Portuguese Cork and Neubaums tape, twined
> > > > > with 5 coats of Shellac
> > > > > Levers: Paul cantilever
> > > > > Shifters: Shimano 8 speed and Paul mounts mounted upside down.
> > > > > Cables & Housing: Shimano Dura Ace
> > > > > Brakes: Shimano XT High Profile and VO Hangers
> > > > > Brake Pads: Kool Stop Salmon
> > > > > Front Der: Shimano Ultegra
> > > > > Rear Der: Shimano Ultegra High normal
> > > > > Cassette: Shimano 12-26
> > > > > Cranks: Sugino XD2 triple 175mm 24/39/43 I also have a Sugino 40,
> > > > > never got the rings I really wanted easy fix.
> > > > > Pedals: Suntour Superbe Pro.
> > > > > Toe Clips: MKS L Half clips with leather.
> > > > > Wheels: 650B Synergy laced to LX hubs, built by Rich.
> > > > > Tires: 650B 40 mm Fatty Rumpkins
> > > > > Fenders: VO Zeppelin 55mm
>
> > > > > I am asking $2800 Shipping will be extra but I would hope we can
> > > > > workout local pickup.
>
> > > > > I would like Paypal or a money order.
>
> > > > > I am in 90232
>
> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/willhrtn/5365030652/in/set-7215762572185...
>
> > > > > Damn that was hard to do.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[Anne Paulson]

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:01 AM, EricP  wrote:

> I'm jealous.  Would take until late June (at least) before could pack
> that light of clothing for a trip.
>

Have to point out, though, that Manny packed less warm clothes than others
might have packed for the same trip. I live very near Manny and went on an
overnight last week. I brought, and wore all at the same time in the
evening, a wool undershirt, wool Shak sweater, wool hoodie sweater, wool hat
and a Goretex jacket-- and I definitely wasn't overheating. My companion was
similarly bundled up in the evening as we made dinner.

It was in the 40s two nights ago when I started riding yesterday morning.
I'm guessing Manny runs warm.

Also, no sleeping pad? Too spartan for me. Then again, I'm on the side of
more luxury. I was glad to have my pancake turner-- how else could I make
pancakes for breakfast?

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[RBW] WTB: A Few Final Items for My Build

[Mike Irwin]

Hey Everyone!

Just wanted to drop a quick note as I'm putting together my Hillborne
build. I'm looking for a few last items for the bike and wondered if
anyone has any of these components laying around as spares that they
wouldn't mind parting with. I've got a bit of a budget, but a portion
of that is going to a set of wheels that I'll have built. If any of
this stuff is out there in the Rivendell world, great. Otherwise, I'll
keep plugging away to build this one up right.

B17 saddle - Black, Honey, aged, anything really. I've got a Flyer,
but I think I'm going to keep that on my Trek grocery-getter. It's
served me well and I'd rather go the B17 route on this one.

Seatpost - 27.2

Bar End Shifters - I've setting up my Shimano 105 groupset w/ an 8-
speed cassette. The Shimano bar ends would work, but I think Silvers
would work too.

Bottle cages - Silver in color, preferred. But, then again, I'd
consider pretty much any color. I've got a nice set of Klean Kanteens
that I love.

I'm really excited to get this build done and get back out on the
roads. It's been far to long that I've been away from all of this.

Thanks,
Mike

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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[Mike Irwin]

Mummy bag + Tarp. Another option would be a bivy. I've got a
Mountainsmith solo bivy that I use as a backup, in the event that I
need to stake out a spot on a day hike that I've somehow under-
estimated.

I've been a big fan of ultra-light backpacking and I try to keep my
packs sub-30lbs. That doesn't leave a lot of room for error, but I've
also realized that I tend to overpack.

However, I'd leave the Maxim mag in there out of pure necessity. Can't
leave the reading materials out of the picture.

:)



On Apr 24, 8:01 am, EricP  wrote:
> I'm jealous.  Would take until late June (at least) before could pack
> that light of clothing for a trip.
>
> As an aside- have also been looking for a smaller/lighter tent, but
> hard to decide on something.  Especially one that would fit the
> Rivendell sold sleeping bag easily.  (Mine is either a non-mummy or
> very minimal mummy version.)
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Apr 24, 7:46 am, MichaelH  wrote:
>
> > Personally, I'd leave the dog home, and spring for a lighter tent.
> > michael
>
> > On Apr 24, 1:24 am, manueljohnacosta 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Pictures proved that I packed 
> > > :http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157626439125925/
>
> > > On Apr 23, 10:21 pm, manueljohnacosta 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> > > > traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> > > > I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> > > > it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> > > > I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> > > > a picture of it. It never really happened)
> > > > Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> > > > As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> > > > gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> > > > packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> > > > scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> > > > between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> > > > math teacher.)
> > > > Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> > > > -Manny- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: WTB: NOS Suntour Freewheel, or other High Quality Freewheel: 32,34, or 36t preferred

[Philip Williamson]

Dang. That sucks.
A seven speed fixed cog, though - that's a real breakthrough!

Septingle,
 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Apr 23, 6:53 pm, erik jensen  wrote:
> 3 IRD freewheels toasted in the past 6 months, and 20 miles home on a jammed
> freewheel-turned-fixed today. I need something stronger and better.
>
> Looking for something with at least 32t in back, more is nice but not
> necessary.
>
> Make my day, and help me kick a rather annoying series of mechanicals!
>
> Thanks!
>
> erik
>
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[RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires.

[William]

Nice quality freewheels with a 28 or bigger are hard to come by, as
others on other threads on this board frequently lament.  I have a
14-28 6sp Shimanopore freewheel on the clinchers that will be revealed
soon.  I have a suntour perfect 6 speed in a 13-26 which might be
delightful.  The final gearing choices will in part be influenced by
where the bike resides.  I had kicked off this project to equip my
parents and/or in-laws with a road bike for me to use when we visit.
We are down there 3 or 4 times a year.  Spreading to a 130mm is on my
list of options, so I can run a current cassette.

On Apr 24, 5:56 am, MichaelH  wrote:
> Nice bike William. I like the way these older standard gage 531C ride
> and hope it gives you a lot of joy.  Why struggle with a 24; why not
> just go to a 27 or 28?
>
> My winter project was rebuilding a 1984 Trek 620.  I spread the stays
> just so I could go to a cassette with a 12 cog, which allows for a
> smaller set of rings.  In this case 48/34/ 26.  But the 34/27 will
> handle pretty much everything after some spring riding.
> michael
>
> On Apr 19, 4:01 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > I'm well on my way to converting a 1984 Trek 770 into a retro-modern
> > all road bike.  Two shortcomings of my current road bike (a Davidson
> > Signature) were that it doesn't take a tire wider than 700x25, and
> > that it fits like a racing bike.  I had it custom built in my youth,
> > and so now to get the bars up I had to use a Technomic Deluxe which is
> > excellent but I think it looks a little less than ideal to have a ton
> > of seatpost and a ton of stem showing.  It makes the frame look too
> > small.
>
> > Anyway, this Trek is a couple cm taller than my Davidson, so I hope to
> > get a similar fit with a regular proportioned stem.  I finished
> > stripping the bike down, and I'll start selling off a lot of the Campy
> > Super Record parts through the normal channels.  I got my compact
> > double crankset, and I've secured a few freewheels for various gearing
> > options.  The recent highlight is that I've confirmed that a 700x27
> > Roly Poly will fit (no fender).  I'm thrilled about that, and it was
> > something that I wasn't sure would work out.  If the bike turns out as
> > well as I hope, I might get it powdercoated.  I bought some
> > Resurrectio stickers from Riv on that chance.
>
> > Riv content:  Higher bars, fearlessly riding a 30 year old lugged
> > steel MUSA frameset, Roly Poly tires bought from Riv, not being retro
> > for retros sake.
>
> > Pics on my flickr:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626511175478/

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[RBW] Re: WTB: NOS Suntour Freewheel, or other High Quality Freewheel: 32,34, or 36t preferred

[Mike]

Just saw this on the VO blog:

The Freewheel-  After about 1500 miles of testing the first one
started making a clicking noise. We took it apart to find lot of wear,
grit inside, and a bad ball bearing. If this is the best freewheel
made in Taiwan, as I was told, then we're very disappointed. It's no
better than any of the current offering. To make it right it would
need proper seals, better bearings, larger pawls, etc. On the bright
side, the cogs still looked great. Next time I'm in Taiwan I'll see
how much it would cost to make the needed improvements,  but I'm
pretty sure that the tooling costs will be prohibitive.

http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2011/04/few-updates.html

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[RBW] Re: WTB: NOS Suntour Freewheel, or other High Quality Freewheel: 32,34, or 36t preferred

[Mike]

Erik, are you using FW on all your bikes? You might try looking for
Suntour FWs through this:

http://bike.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/bike.cgi?cat=bik&fil=freewheel&itm=suntour&state=&ps=&pe=&ys=&ye=&so=d&submit=+GO+

I've been tempted to purchase a ST Winner FW after having an IRD crap
out on me pretty much out of the box. I know VO is considering selling
a FW but I'm sure it's a way off and there's no guarantee it'll be any
better than the IRD ones. Hell, it'll probably be an IRD one branded
as a VO. Or not.

Most likely, the wheel I'm using on my rando bike will be moved to my
commuter and I'll just switch back to a cassette hub. I'd sure hate to
have a FW crap out on me during a brevet.

--mike

On Apr 23, 6:53 pm, erik jensen  wrote:
> 3 IRD freewheels toasted in the past 6 months, and 20 miles home on a jammed
> freewheel-turned-fixed today. I need something stronger and better.
>
> Looking for something with at least 32t in back, more is nice but not
> necessary.
>
> Make my day, and help me kick a rather annoying series of mechanicals!
>
> Thanks!
>
> erik
>
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> bikenoir.blogspot.com

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[RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Rambouilleting Utahn]

Borrow a framing square and place it against a wall before pulling it
upwards. As long as the wall to floor joint is square and you get the
square past  your junk you can now easily measure your true PBH with a
tape measure. Just measure the distance between the top of the square
and the floor. If you don't have a metric tape remember 2.54 is your
multiplier.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Mojo]

Yes, pull up with force and off to the side. The highest value of
several attempts will be the closest to your true PBH. You can't
measure too high.

On Apr 23, 7:16 pm, Jay LePree  wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> I am thinking of purchasing a new Rivendell for the wider tires tires
> (currently ride a "Creamsicle" Rambouillet (size 54 cm)).  When I try
> to pull up my sticks that hold the tape measure, my fine assistant
> gets values of around 75 to 76 cm.  However, I can stand over my
> Rambouillet as outfitted and still bend slightly at the knees (still
> in stocking feet spread 10 inches apart), and the height of the top
> tube from the floor is approximately 80 cm, therefore I know my PBH is
> at least 80 cm, and probably slightly higher as I can still bend my
> knees when straddling the top tube.  (I am 5 foot 6 inches tall, and a
> PBH of 80 cm is consistent with Rivendell literature.)
>
> In the grand scheme of things, a very minor problem to have, but it
> does make me wonder why I cannot seem to pull up on my paint sticks to
> get a more accurate measurement.
>
> Jay
> Demarest, NJ

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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[EricP]

I'm jealous.  Would take until late June (at least) before could pack
that light of clothing for a trip.

As an aside- have also been looking for a smaller/lighter tent, but
hard to decide on something.  Especially one that would fit the
Rivendell sold sleeping bag easily.  (Mine is either a non-mummy or
very minimal mummy version.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 24, 7:46 am, MichaelH  wrote:
> Personally, I'd leave the dog home, and spring for a lighter tent.
> michael
>
> On Apr 24, 1:24 am, manueljohnacosta 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Pictures proved that I packed 
> > :http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157626439125925/
>
> > On Apr 23, 10:21 pm, manueljohnacosta 
> > wrote:
>
> > > As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> > > traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> > > I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> > > it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> > > I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> > > a picture of it. It never really happened)
> > > Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> > > As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> > > gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> > > packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> > > scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> > > between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> > > math teacher.)
> > > Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> > > -Manny- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires.

[MichaelH]

Nice bike William. I like the way these older standard gage 531C ride
and hope it gives you a lot of joy.  Why struggle with a 24; why not
just go to a 27 or 28?

My winter project was rebuilding a 1984 Trek 620.  I spread the stays
just so I could go to a cassette with a 12 cog, which allows for a
smaller set of rings.  In this case 48/34/ 26.  But the 34/27 will
handle pretty much everything after some spring riding.
michael

On Apr 19, 4:01 pm, William  wrote:
> I'm well on my way to converting a 1984 Trek 770 into a retro-modern
> all road bike.  Two shortcomings of my current road bike (a Davidson
> Signature) were that it doesn't take a tire wider than 700x25, and
> that it fits like a racing bike.  I had it custom built in my youth,
> and so now to get the bars up I had to use a Technomic Deluxe which is
> excellent but I think it looks a little less than ideal to have a ton
> of seatpost and a ton of stem showing.  It makes the frame look too
> small.
>
> Anyway, this Trek is a couple cm taller than my Davidson, so I hope to
> get a similar fit with a regular proportioned stem.  I finished
> stripping the bike down, and I'll start selling off a lot of the Campy
> Super Record parts through the normal channels.  I got my compact
> double crankset, and I've secured a few freewheels for various gearing
> options.  The recent highlight is that I've confirmed that a 700x27
> Roly Poly will fit (no fender).  I'm thrilled about that, and it was
> something that I wasn't sure would work out.  If the bike turns out as
> well as I hope, I might get it powdercoated.  I bought some
> Resurrectio stickers from Riv on that chance.
>
> Riv content:  Higher bars, fearlessly riding a 30 year old lugged
> steel MUSA frameset, Roly Poly tires bought from Riv, not being retro
> for retros sake.
>
> Pics on my flickr:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157626511175478/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone else have trouble measuring their PBH?

[Ken Freeman]

I use a book, like some coffee-table picture book (Golden Age of ... by Jan
Heine would work well if it were thicker ...) but thick enough to simulate
the pressure of a saddle - maybe a 2x4 with a rounded top would be good.  It
needs to be pushed up pretty hard, pressing against the pelvic bones.  It
also needs to keep a horizontal top sufrace, so the tape-measure measures
the real height back in there.  One easy way to do this is to stand with
your back against the wall while your assistant positions the book, then you
hold the book while the helper measures and reads it out.

Using a book or a 2x4 eliminates pain due to a ridge pressing in, and
flexing of the stick.  Or just go to a bike shop with a Fit Kit and see if
they'll let you self measure on their setup - it's a quick job, they should
not charge you, especially if not busy.

Carefully positioning all your dangly parts to make sure nothing gets caught
on the book and nothing hurts is expected.  Starting out by wearing bike
shorts is also a real good idea, to hold it in and to eliminate seams.

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:46 AM, Ginz  wrote:

> You must not be pulling up hard enough andwell off to the
> side, if you know what I mean.
>
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[RBW] Re: Bike Tour Stuff.

[MichaelH]

Personally, I'd leave the dog home, and spring for a lighter tent.
michael

On Apr 24, 1:24 am, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> Pictures proved that I packed 
> :http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157626439125925/
>
> On Apr 23, 10:21 pm, manueljohnacosta 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > As I get ready to pack for my third bike tour. I start doing my
> > traditional pre-bike tour rituals.
> > I shave my mustache. (Something I'm not quite fond of doing. Because
> > it makes me look younger than I really I am.)
> > I lay out all my gear and take a picture. ( Because if you don't take
> > a picture of it. It never really happened)
> > Then I upload the picture. ( Because I'm vain.)
>
> > As I look at my previous pre-bike tour pictures I see the evolution of
> > gear as the time goes by. Starting from not knowing what to pack, to
> > packing too much and then not really caring what to pack. Not having a
> > scale but being a darn good guess-a-mater I'm putting the weight
> > between twenty to a hundred pounds.(Remember I'm a PE teacher not a
> > math teacher.)
> > Curious whats the average weight for packing for a nice tour?
> > -Manny

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[RBW] Re: Odometer only? (Jones counter)

[Forrest]

Thanks, RU, for the tip on the Cyclemeter app. I downloaded and used
it for the first time yesterday -- I think I'm really going to like
it. For the recreational and rambling, ambling rides I mostly do, this
is just the ticket. Put it in my bag and check ride info during a
break or after the ride. Also provides a nice riding log.

But I will not use Cyclemeter on my iPhone for very long rides or
multi-day tours -- for those I'll want to preserve the phone's battery
in case I need to make or receive a call or text!

On Apr 22, 12:42 pm, Rambouilleting Utahn  wrote:
> After removing my computer I've been using the Cyclemeter app for just
> this purpose. I can log my miles ridden but don't have to look at my
> speed or the taunting pace arrow.
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> http://www.abvio.com/cyclemeter/
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> On Apr 22, 4:53 am, islaysteve  wrote:
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> > I wonder if iPhones and other
> > devices with GPS can be set up to do the same.  Just carry the iPhone
> > in the bag.  I realize that this goes in the opposite direction of
> > your wish to simplify!  Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Project bike will take Roly Poly tires.

[PATRICK MOORE]

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:48 PM, William  wrote:
> You parallelaterra zealots see flat drops wherever you look.  Mine are
> not.  My handlebars are adjusted to fit

God will forgive you such a slight deviance.

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