[RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW

[Adam]

I'll be there.

Looking forward to it,
Adam

On Aug 15, 4:49 pm, René Sterental  wrote:
> One campground confirmed for up to 8 people @ Juniper campground for
> September 24.
>
> René
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:38 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> > I will reserve one campground that will take up to 8 people. From what I
> > gathered online, you have to have a reservation but it's for any open spot.
> > I guess that as long as there are open spots, you can always show up and pay
> > at the park but like you, I'd like to know that I'm assured of a spot before
> > I go.
>
> > René
>
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Tony  wrote:
>
> >> Was someone going to reserve a site or two? Let us know, it sounds
> >> like some people want to go for sure and some are tentative. I would
> >> need to switch some plans, but would like to participate if I knew
> >> there was a place to plop my bag that night. Thanks,
>
> >> Tony
>
> >> On Aug 11, 10:55 am, erik jensen  wrote:
> >> > Checking in from the high sierra.
>
> >> > This is a ride where you get the freedom to choose how to get up there.
> >> If
> >> > some want to take roads, others want to take dirt, great. Juniper is
> >> just
> >> > shy of 3000 feet. I tend to ride up on the roads, and take dirt back
> >> down
> >> > from around the junction. Just because I like to get there before too
> >> late
> >> > in the day, and enjoy climbing on smooth pavement.
>
> >> > The dirt trail to Juniper Camp, if you're talking about burma road, is
> >> > entirely a pushing up the hill affair--I did it once and won't again.
> >> Too
> >> > steep to be much more than a good workout and opportunity to mumble to
> >> > oneself.
>
> >> > It'll be hot, and if we're lucky there'll be tarantulas out. They're
> >> nice
> >> > fellows, so you won't need a tent so long as you've got a warm enough
> >> bag.
>
> >> > Maybe we should just meet at RBW, seeing as this is the RBW list. I'm
> >> fine
> >> > with that one too, and I imagine there'll be a few last minute things
> >> > folks'll want to pick up.
>
> >> > Cheers,
>
> >> > erik
>
> >> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Greg J  wrote:
> >> > > Count me in (tentative).  I've been wanting to dip my toes into the
> >> whole
> >> > > s24o thing.
>
> >> > > Greg
> >> > > Oakland
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[RBW] Re: Grant's new game...

[Allan in Portland]

Hey Grant, don't quit your day job. The Carnival would leave you stranded on 
the side of the highway in the middle of Kansas I'm sure. As a hint for next 
time, don't use those really expensive rare earth magnets. Cheapies from an 
old science kit are the way to go, even if you have to glue 'em to the side 
of the building. Actually, if you have to glue them they are perfect.

Allan "Fast Eddie Felson" F.

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[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[islaysteve]

Wow, wish I could help.  I live in Kensington,  too,  but I've never seen a 
Betty Foy.  Need an excuse to drive to Ohio 
(Country Bike Shop) or Boston (Harris Cyclery)?  But check with them first 
if you do.  I think the Washingon/mid-Atlantic deserves to have a Rivendell 
dealer.  I know there aren't many in the country.  And alas, Velo Orange no 
longer sells a mixte.  Best of luck, Steve 

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[RBW] Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[Hugh Rope]

Dear Rivendell Owners' Bunch,

I'm writing to ask for your help. We've *almost* decided to get a 52
cm Betty Foy for my wife.

She's 5'4" and rides with a a saddle height just a smidge below 25".
She's currently commuting on a full-suspension Canndondale w/ road
slicks, and she's *almost* convinced that a lovely steel mixte with
fenders & upright bars would be a better commuter (and a source of
joy, what with the pretty hearts in the lugs...).

But here's the thing: She's concerned about ordering a bike that she's
never seen or ridden. Emphasis on the ridden, I think.

We live in Kensington, Maryland, which is just outside the Capital
Beltway, next to Bethesda.

My question is, might there by a proud Betty Foy owner or "Rivendell
ambassador" somewhere in the greater DC/Baltimore area, who might let
my wife check out (take just the quickest of spins on) such a bike?

Please forgive my presumption. And thank you sincerely, in advance,
for any help.

Thanks!

-HR

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[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[Minh]

With the number of DC folks in the area, it'd be great if we could
maintain a sublist for DC based RBW owners, i think it'd be helpful
for these types of requests, and also for posting local events.

As for the original request, i only know about the mysterious Betty
Foy that surfaced recently, so good luck finding one to test ride.  In
a pinch consider test riding another rivendell, not ideal but will
give her an idea of what it would feel like.

And Hugh, admit it, you want the Betty Foy more then your wife :)

On Aug 16, 11:50 am, islaysteve  wrote:
> Wow, wish I could help.  I live in Kensington,  too,  but I've never seen a
> Betty Foy.  Need an excuse to drive to Ohio
> (Country Bike Shop) or Boston (Harris Cyclery)?  But check with them first
> if you do.  I think the Washingon/mid-Atlantic deserves to have a Rivendell
> dealer.  I know there aren't many in the country.  And alas, Velo Orange no
> longer sells a mixte.  Best of luck, Steve

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RE: [RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

And to clarify, you think Hugh wants the Betty Foy more than his wife [wants 
the Betty Foy]!  Rather than the rather harsher alternative, Hugh wants the 
Betty Foy more than [he wants] his wife! 

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Minh
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:27 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal 
permission to order one!

With the number of DC folks in the area, it'd be great if we could maintain a 
sublist for DC based RBW owners, i think it'd be helpful for these types of 
requests, and also for posting local events.

As for the original request, i only know about the mysterious Betty Foy that 
surfaced recently, so good luck finding one to test ride.  In a pinch consider 
test riding another rivendell, not ideal but will give her an idea of what it 
would feel like.

And Hugh, admit it, you want the Betty Foy more then your wife :)

On Aug 16, 11:50 am, islaysteve  wrote:
> Wow, wish I could help.  I live in Kensington,  too,  but I've never 
> seen a Betty Foy.  Need an excuse to drive to Ohio (Country Bike Shop) 
> or Boston (Harris Cyclery)?  But check with them first if you do.  I 
> think the Washingon/mid-Atlantic deserves to have a Rivendell dealer.  
> I know there aren't many in the country.  And alas, Velo Orange no 
> longer sells a mixte.  Best of luck, Steve

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[RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW

[Tony]

Thanks. I was able to switch plans and will be there too.

Tony

On Aug 15, 4:49 pm, René Sterental  wrote:
> One campground confirmed for up to 8 people @ Juniper campground for
> September 24.
>
> René
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:38 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> > I will reserve one campground that will take up to 8 people. From what I
> > gathered online, you have to have a reservation but it's for any open spot.
> > I guess that as long as there are open spots, you can always show up and pay
> > at the park but like you, I'd like to know that I'm assured of a spot before
> > I go.
>
> > René
>
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Tony  wrote:
>
> >> Was someone going to reserve a site or two? Let us know, it sounds
> >> like some people want to go for sure and some are tentative. I would
> >> need to switch some plans, but would like to participate if I knew
> >> there was a place to plop my bag that night. Thanks,
>
> >> Tony
>
> >> On Aug 11, 10:55 am, erik jensen  wrote:
> >> > Checking in from the high sierra.
>
> >> > This is a ride where you get the freedom to choose how to get up there.
> >> If
> >> > some want to take roads, others want to take dirt, great. Juniper is
> >> just
> >> > shy of 3000 feet. I tend to ride up on the roads, and take dirt back
> >> down
> >> > from around the junction. Just because I like to get there before too
> >> late
> >> > in the day, and enjoy climbing on smooth pavement.
>
> >> > The dirt trail to Juniper Camp, if you're talking about burma road, is
> >> > entirely a pushing up the hill affair--I did it once and won't again.
> >> Too
> >> > steep to be much more than a good workout and opportunity to mumble to
> >> > oneself.
>
> >> > It'll be hot, and if we're lucky there'll be tarantulas out. They're
> >> nice
> >> > fellows, so you won't need a tent so long as you've got a warm enough
> >> bag.
>
> >> > Maybe we should just meet at RBW, seeing as this is the RBW list. I'm
> >> fine
> >> > with that one too, and I imagine there'll be a few last minute things
> >> > folks'll want to pick up.
>
> >> > Cheers,
>
> >> > erik
>
> >> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Greg J  wrote:
> >> > > Count me in (tentative).  I've been wanting to dip my toes into the
> >> whole
> >> > > s24o thing.
>
> >> > > Greg
> >> > > Oakland
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Re: [RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[Seth Vidal]

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Minh  wrote:
> With the number of DC folks in the area, it'd be great if we could
> maintain a sublist for DC based RBW owners, i think it'd be helpful
> for these types of requests, and also for posting local events.
>

I don't think there needs to be a sublist. The various regions of the
country talk on this list to coordinate pretty commonly - especially
the cali contingent. I don't see why the DC-area folks can't use this
list too.

-sv

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[RBW] FS: Saddlebag Support (VO ViVa)

[Curtis Schmitt]

I no longer palp a large saddlebag, so this support is no longer needed. It
is the best support I've used. One thing to note is that the rubber insert
it comes with has disintegrated so if you don't want scratches on your
seatpost, I'd suggest adding your own rubber insert, or come up with another
solution. The one it came with tends to be pretty worthless anyway, way too
soft. It is in very good condition.

VO gets $58 for
these,
although they're currently out of stock. I'd like to get $40 shipped via
PayPal. I can ship out tomorrow. Please let me know off-list. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[islaysteve]

She's welcome to ride my 51cm Bleriot for the "Rivendell feel", but it's got 
drop bars.  
Steve

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[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[Minh]

Seth,

You're probably right, maybe the DC crowd are not as social as the
Cali crowd.  In addition i'd be ok being on an informal email tree
(not sure about everyone else), just so i'd know who's in the area,
maybe get together for group rides, parts swapping.  Maybe i'm just
too sensitive about polluting the list ;)

On Aug 16, 1:50 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Minh  wrote:
> > With the number of DC folks in the area, it'd be great if we could
> > maintain a sublist for DC based RBW owners, i think it'd be helpful
> > for these types of requests, and also for posting local events.
>
> I don't think there needs to be a sublist. The various regions of the
> country talk on this list to coordinate pretty commonly - especially
> the cali contingent. I don't see why the DC-area folks can't use this
> list too.
>
> -sv

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Re: [RBW] First Platrack/Slickersack impressions...

[René Sterental]

Thanks!

Just to clarify, you make several turns with the bungee before looping it
over the ball, correct?

René

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean <
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Maybe these photos of how I do it will help with pannier mounting:
>
> http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/pannier%20bungee%20balls?h=b77ce6
>
> Oh, and +1 for the SlickerSack!
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant's new game...

[Joe Bernard]

*I hope nobody out there thinks we're throwing money around willy
nilly.*
** 
All bike companies have promotions and sales. Odds are that most folks who 
drop by, lured by the magnet contest, won't hit one, and won't get a 
discount. What are the chances of those people walking away without spending 
some money? 
 
Joe "will probably get up the nerve to try after it's over" Bernard

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Re: [RBW] First Platrack/Slickersack impressions...

[Robert F. Harrison]

On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:24 PM, René Sterental  wrote:

> Anyway, coming back to the Slickersack, as soon as I put my laptop inside,
> the first thing I noticed was how hard it was to keep it on the dual
> kickstand without the wheel completely flopping over. Thanks to StatrixBob's
> advice, I put some bartape on the corners where the rack rubs against the
> top of the downtube if the wheel flops completely. That spot is right in
> between the two downtube braze-ons for the shifters so downtube shifters
> would also protect it and then discovered that my Kleen Kanteen 27oz bottle
> with sports cap also stops the rack from hitting the down tube as long as
> the bottle is in the cage. Still, it's a bit of a hassle.
>
>
Yeah, I wish I hadn't learned that one the hard way.

I'm glad you are enjoying it the setup. I use my SlickerSack regularly but
when I'm not transporting things that need protection I often use an elastic
cargo net to hold things to the Platrack. Sometimes I just use an old piece
of cardboard to keep things from falling through or from getting squished on
the metal (long sandwiches come to mind). I've managed to carry way too much
up front and have never had a handling problem.

Bob


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[RBW] Re: Grant's new game...

[Minh]

I agree with Joe B, this is just all part of sales and marketing, and
it's the kind that rewards the customers.  I mean, look at the all the
purchases that Rene has done this year alone!  It's like a karma
rebate for him!



On Aug 16, 3:27 pm, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> *I hope nobody out there thinks we're throwing money around willy
> nilly.*
> **
> All bike companies have promotions and sales. Odds are that most folks who
> drop by, lured by the magnet contest, won't hit one, and won't get a
> discount. What are the chances of those people walking away without spending
> some money?
>
> Joe "will probably get up the nerve to try after it's over" Bernard

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[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[islaysteve]

Minh, why don't you start a new post, inviting DC-area Riv'rs to post email 
addresses, and those of us who were interested could make our own lists?
Steve

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Re: [RBW] First Platrack/Slickersack impressions...

[René Sterental]

Robert,

Your feedback had a lot of influence on my decision. Coincidentally, EcoVelo
very recently posted a comparison of the Platrack and the Pass & Stow racks
by Mel Hughes, who by the way, tested both on a very beautiful A. Homer
Hilsen:
http://www.ecovelo.info/2011/08/13/two-porteur-racks-one-users-experiences/

I found it very well written and informative.

René

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[RBW] Re: First Platrack/Slickersack impressions...

[Rob]

What a fantastic commute! The bike looks great too. :) 

Rob in (chilly) Seattle

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[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Has your wife read this review?
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/11/popular-girl-test-riding-rivendell.html

An email grouping works pretty well for smaller regional stuff.  We
also have the somewhat effective flickr group as well.  Not everybody
is on flickr or checks it regularly though.

On Aug 16, 8:20 am, Hugh Rope  wrote:
> Dear Rivendell Owners' Bunch,
>
> I'm writing to ask for your help. We've *almost* decided to get a 52
> cm Betty Foy for my wife.
>
> She's 5'4" and rides with a a saddle height just a smidge below 25".
> She's currently commuting on a full-suspension Canndondale w/ road
> slicks, and she's *almost* convinced that a lovely steel mixte with
> fenders & upright bars would be a better commuter (and a source of
> joy, what with the pretty hearts in the lugs...).
>
> But here's the thing: She's concerned about ordering a bike that she's
> never seen or ridden. Emphasis on the ridden, I think.
>
> We live in Kensington, Maryland, which is just outside the Capital
> Beltway, next to Bethesda.
>
> My question is, might there by a proud Betty Foy owner or "Rivendell
> ambassador" somewhere in the greater DC/Baltimore area, who might let
> my wife check out (take just the quickest of spins on) such a bike?
>
> Please forgive my presumption. And thank you sincerely, in advance,
> for any help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -HR

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[RBW] Re: Any DC-area Betty Foys? Need help securing spousal permission to order one!

[Lisa]

What sort of handlebars does your wife want on her Betty Foy?

I'm a little shorter than your wife, but pretty close (5'3", saddle height 
of 625 mm) and I ride a 47 cm Atlantis with drop bars (60 mm stem and 
short-reach bars).  My Atlantis has a top tube length of 520 mm.  The 52 cm 
Betty Foy, with a similar seat tube angle, has an (effective) top tube of 
575 mm.  It may fit with Albatross bars, but with drop bars, it would almost 
certainly be much too long for a 5' 4" woman.

It might be nice to test a 47 cm Foy as well as a 52 cm, if you can arrange 
to do it. 

Lisa

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Re: [RBW] First Platrack/Slickersack impressions...

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

That's right; I wrap the bungee behind the ball two or three times (I forget 
exactly how many; whatever is needed to take up slack), like a too-long 
rubber band. I've since thought about feeding the bungee through the 
pannier's leather patch's slots twice to take up the slack. I haven't taken 
any opportunities to try this though; it might take up *too much* slack 
(i.e. make it too tight to thread through the band clamp easily when 
mounting).
 
Using the technique in the photo, the panniers have always been firmly in 
place on the good trails and roads I ride. I've never felt like they needed 
to be tighter at all. I can't say how they'd handle fast rocky descents or 
anything; I've never done anything like that. I quickly got good enough at 
attaching and detaching the panniers as depicted that I can do either blind 
now, including threading each bungee through its band clamp. Which seems 
like it should be hard but just isn't.
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: First Platrack/Slickersack impressions...

[René Sterental]

Thanks Rob!

It is indeed, a wonderful commute.

Rene

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Rob  wrote:

What a fantastic commute! The bike looks great too. :)

Rob in (chilly) Seattle

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[RBW] 'Regenerative braking' on a Bridgestone

[kent]

Sort of...

http://www.fastcompany.com/1773852/a-flywheel-powered-bicycle-offers-regenerative-braking-for-your-bike

I'm not sure it really makes much sense, but I love the idea and the
execution.

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[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

[Zack]

Today, on my maiden voyage for the new Sam Hillborne, I remembered that a 
friend had let me know about a wild blackberry stash in town.  I rode over, 
picked berries, turned my hands red, and ate them.  I then rode home. 
 Pretty solid way to spend the day.

I'll put some pics up later.   

Nothing more paleo than scaring up some berries!


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[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

[charlie]

When that happens eat more fats and protein plus veggies not carbs. I
just eat a big steak and a huge salad then top it off with
strawberries and home made whip cream using stevia to 'sweeten'. It
satiates me just fine, is low carb and I get enough calories. Doing
this now for a while and still losing fat. If I eat the carbs I get on
a vicious circle of wanting more later.

On Aug 15, 9:39 pm, "Darin G."  wrote:
> I've had a tough time with this aspect of long rides, paleo or not,
> and tend to get a "sweet stomach" from gatorade, energy gels, blocks,
> etc, but on longer rides I bonk if I don't eat, which ruins the ride
> (or hike or ski, or whatever) and  presents a dilemma.  I tend to do
> best eating eggs, sausage and a small serving of potatoes for
> breakfast and then eating "food" along the way, be it pizza or a
> sandwich with fruit, especially apples, and maybe some carrot sticks
> and cucumbers.  I'd probably eat meatloaf and mashed potatoes if my
> mom were to meet me along the way.  I'm going to try grilled cheese
> sandwiches this winter.  The pizza and sandwich are not paleo for
> sure, but I'm more interested in avoiding the bonk while not getting
> nauseous, and I don't know how it matters when you're burning 5,000
> calories on the ride.  I'm obviously not a nutritionist and perhaps
> there is a precise way to dose yourself with pure paleo food and not
> bonk but in the make-it-up-as-I-go-along world this is the best I've
> come up with.  I usually do not eat anything on rides shorter than 3
> hours which seems to work well for me.
>
> My brother-in-law developed the Pro-Bar which is one of the more
> palatable bars (lots of fat, seeds, etc.) and I keep one in my saddle
> bag as a back up.  I asked him about a digestible energy source for
> long events and he said he tells cross-country skiers and distance
> cyclists to take a baked potato in a ziplock with a little olive oil
> and salt.  You could take it a step further and make it a yam or a
> sweet potato.  Put it in a rubbermaid container in your saddle bag.
> Each potato comes out around 200 calories and slightly less than 50
> grams of easily digested carbohydrate.  Its gotta taste better than
> the crap they serve at the aid stations at most century rides and Mark
> Sisson seems to be generally approving of potatoes as an energy
> source.
>
> The real challenge for me is the day after the long ride.  The day of
> the ride my appetite tends to be suppressed by the activity
> (especially if its hot)  but it comes back with a vengeance the next
> day which makes diet compliance difficult.  I spent today fantasizing
> about a Margherita pizza for instance and I started salivating just
> reading the post above about jamon with manchego on baguette.  Still
> working on tweaking the post long ride menu.
>
> On Aug 15, 8:29 pm, charlie  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Well you have to ask yourself the real question.that is, If you
> > are eating "paleo" are you exercising paleo? Unless you are riding at
> > a lower pace (similar to the output of a walker) you will need to
> > consume a higher amount of carbohydrate. Fruit and veggies are the
> > natural thing for that. If you are riding 4-12 hours, eat fats,
> > protein, veggies, nuts, fruit just like when you are not riding.
> > This assumes you are trying to burn fat as you ride. Unless you
> > continually 'top off' with carbs you'll soon be out of glucose anyway
> > and will have to burn fat for energy. I think they call it 'the bonk'.
> > I've just come to the conclusion that I don't like riding that long or
> > that hard. If I can't finish my riding in a 5-6 hour day, I'm going to
> > do the sensible thing and take a rest, eat some food and go to sleep
> > until the next day. The best post ride food in my mind would be the
> > same thing I eat normally just a little more of it.  For protein, eggs
> > or fish seem to digest better for me than a steak but the fat in the
> > steak satiates better after exercising. I also like the way I feel
> > eating primarily vegetables and meat. During a ride you askI
> > eat fruit or nuts or berries maybe even a little turkey jerky or a
> > teriyaki stick. Most of my riding these days however is two hours at a
> > time or less so I rarely eat when I ride and just drink some water.
> > I've also taken to riding my new SimpleOne and I've changed the way I
> > ride and do more gut busting climbing coupled with easy spinning and
> > coasting and some high velocity spinning for the fast twitch fibers.
> > Kind of a interval type of thing like when I commute to work from
> > light to light. On the few longer rides I've done I slow my pace quite
> > a bit and plod along.
>
> > On Aug 14, 5:30 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
>
> > > Sorry to resuscitate a dying thread, but here goes:
>
> > > I like the way the Taubes/Paleo makes me feel - -won't rehash.
> > > Problem I have is long rides - - 4 to 12 hours.  I have not figured
> > > out the "Taubesian" foods

[RBW] FS Nitto Mark's Rack and Rear Campee

[Zack]

Up for sale is one Nitto Mark's Rack and one Nitto Rear Campee rack (the one 
with the removable pannier supports).

140 shipped for the campee, 80 shipped for the Mark's.

Both are used but in great condition.  

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[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

[reynoldslugs]

Thanks, Everyone, for the input.

I rode today and got in six hours, stopped after three hours at the
Dairy Queen drive-through and got a triple cheese burger, side order
of fries and a big-ass coke.

 No bonk!

seriously... just going with a little fruit now, we'll see how it
goes.

regards all around

 > > > RL

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[RBW] FS Nitto Mark's Rack and Rear Campee

[Zack]

Campee sold. 

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[RBW] Re: What would Taubes put in a Boxy (or Candy Bar) Bag for a long ride

[charlie]

You'd be better off to eat more than a little fruit.maybe a
medium amount. I think sometimes just taking a break and having a meal
is perfect. I mean if your goal is (just) to get somewhere, take a
break. If you are training for some kind of event I guess you have to
eat on the ride but I figure Grok took a break then resumed trekking
into the wilderness in search of wild game or an elusive cave woman.
Actually, I suppose Grok nibbled on nuts and berries along the way
too. I'm looking forward to getting one of those nifty lightweight
stoves and might do some longer meandering rides with a picnic style
break and a hot cup of coffee (probably not a Grok bev but I like
coffee) plus I like the time to reflect and enjoy a nice view. I just
can't get into the long grueling slog while only looking straight
ahead anymore.

On Aug 16, 9:30 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> Thanks, Everyone, for the input.
>
> I rode today and got in six hours, stopped after three hours at the
> Dairy Queen drive-through and got a triple cheese burger, side order
> of fries and a big-ass coke.
>
>  No bonk!
>
> seriously... just going with a little fruit now, we'll see how it
> goes.
>
> regards all around
>
>  > > > RL

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