[RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Jay LePree]

Hi everyone,
 
Thanks for the suggestions.  I will let you know how it turns out.  
 
Jay
Demarest, NJ

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[RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Matthew J]

Just took received my Swift Panniers.  Well made indeed.
 
Bruce Gordon racks sell for around the same as the Tubus.  He makes each to 
measure, so you get just the right fit for your bike.  Worth considering. 
On Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:58:04 PM UTC-5, Ryan Ray wrote:

> I have a pair of nearly new Swift Industries panniers and a nearly new 
> silver Cosmo that would work on a Ram. I'm also looking for a Mark's rack 
> for my Ram if you are interested. 
>
> Highly recommend the Tubus Cosmo. Specially for heal clearance issues.  
>

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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Matthew J]

I wish he'd offer a PDF subscription. 

Yeah, that is why I don't subscribe any longer either.  I understand Jan's 
desire to leave something for posterity.  But unless it is something along 
the lines of his forthcoming Rene Herse book (which I have ordered already) 
I don't want the paper in my apartment.  
 
Reading magazines and illustrated novels (ok, comics) designed for tablets 
is such a great experience.  Especially something like BQ which is photo 
centric.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Larry Powers]

I ran a Tubus Luna on my Rabmouillet for a while.  It is the only rack that 
looks good enough to be on a Rambouillet.  It is a light duty rack but it is 
rated at a max load of 40lbs which should be more then adequate.  It has a 
single attachment point to the bike that uses the rear brake bolt.  This was a 
little funky to set up but was fine once it was in place.  It is also very 
narrow and can't be used to support a trunk bag.  

That said I am back to using my Hoss on the Rambouillet because I don't like 
having a rack on it and it is not my primary commuter.  I laid a piece of 
corrugated plastic sign board in the bottom of the Hoss and it works well for 
hauling my clothes, lunch and occasionally a lap top.   If this is your primary 
commuter then the Luna is a good looking rack that doesn't over power the bike 
when there are no bags on it.  

Larry Powers 

 

Get a bicycle.  You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain


Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 05:40:51 -0700
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet


Hi everyone,
 
Thanks for the suggestions.  I will let you know how it turns out.  
 
Jay
Demarest, NJ



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[RBW] Re: Rack and Panniers for a Rabmouillet

[Ryan Ray]

Are you looking to get rid of your marks rack? My tubus and even my swift 
panniers may be for trade. 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[Joe Bernard]

>From www.disraeligears.co.uk:

 

“You know how the title came about - Disraeli Gears - yeah? We had this 
Austin Westminster, and Mick Turner was one of the roadies who’d been with 
me a long time, and he was driving along and Eric (Clapton) was talking 
about getting a racing bicycle. Mick, driving, went ‘Oh yeah - Disraeli 
gears!’ meaning derailleur gears... We all just fell over... We said that’s 
got to be the *album*  title”

*Ginger Baker*  remembering 1967

Joe Bernard

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:07:59 PM UTC-7, Big Paulie wrote:

> Ginger Baker was an avid competetive cyclist as a teen... 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 650b wheelset, long-reach brakes

[Philip Williamson]

I'm interested to see if you're successful. I have a fixed gear low-trail 
porteur that only fits 30mm tires I'm thinking about 650B-ing. 
There was a great eBay set I 
wanted,
 
but it went for $500+, shipped. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:23:32 AM UTC-7, KTY wrote:
>
> I've recently converted my old Maruishi tourer to a commuter, and love it 
> but for the 27 1/4 tires, which are a tight fit under the longboards and 
> leave a lot to be desired in the way of comfort on NYC's gnarly pavement. 
>
> If it can be done affordably, I'd like to convert to 650b, so... anyone 
> have a not-too-heavily-used 650b wheelset to sell? Please hit me up here or 
> off-list: kolbyt at gmail dot com. And as long as I'm asking, doing this 
> would require some long reach brakes (e.g. the Dia Compes). Provided I can 
> get a wheelset, that is. 
>
> Thanks, 
> Kolby
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[Phil Brown]

Skippy was The Airplane's original drummer.
Phil Brown
Was there as a roadie and had my amps repaired in Oakland, Calif.
where I now live.

On Oct 24, 6:39 pm, Tony  wrote:
> Yes and yes. There is a live show I bought from the Wolfgang site
> recorded just before Surrealistic Pillow was released where Kantner
> introduces "My Best Friend" as a song written by Skip Spence from Moby
> Grape. I hadn't realized that.
>
> Tony
>
> On Oct 23, 9:13 pm, lungimsam  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Are you both a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan?
>
> > Was wondering about the SanFran cultural/possible generational link.
>
> > I am a Marylander. But a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan.
> > Listening to "You're my Best Friend" while cycling on quiet roads in the
> > Spring is such a nice feeling.
>
> > There is a Rivendell/Mac question on Jim's site. Though more obscure,
> > thought I would ask this one because of the SF area focus of the two, and
> > I'm a fan of both.
>
> > Moderator, feel free to remove if this question is not approporiate to the
> > forum, with my apologies...

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Sam Hillborne in Seattle (mine) with cream headtube and lots of stuff.

[Scot Brooks]

Shameless bump. Still available.

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[RBW] Re: A Simple Card

[Savvas]

Small photo of some local seagulls on the jetty posted today from 
Semaphore, 'cycling central' (we like to think) of South Australia. Quick 
ink sketch of a 'trike couchant' (apres Marcel Duchamp)  on the reverse.

Savvas.

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:46:46 AM UTC+10:30, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> If you didn't see GP's column from yesterday, take a break and read it. 
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/34108841116/calling-all
>
> If you are moved to do so, take a moment or two and act.
>
> - Jim
>
> cyclofiend.com / cyclo...@gmail.com 
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[RBW] Wood

[Jonathan Poor]

Grant's blog about the wood bar-end shifters made me think it was time to 
upload pictures of my '98 Riv Road that I'm currently running with a set of 
wood rims. 

The wheels, laced with 36 "Revolution" butted spokes and shod with 27mm 
cotton tubulars (80psi) are nicely comfy. The wheels are 5 or 6 years old 
now.

Contrary to Grant's story, I wouldn't say they are high maintenance at all. 
They are quite tough -- I can even ride them off road!  (thanks to the 26 
chainring in front).

Here's the link:

https://picasaweb.google.com/109331262996071703108/RivendellRoad_1998?authkey=Gv1sRgCKm72_LU2rq6DA#

Let me know if this doesn't work!

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[RBW] Re: A Simple Card

[Christopher Chen]

So simple. Wonderful. I can only imagine what this small deluge is going to 
look like! 

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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Kelly]

I couldn't find where you found the SP PV-8 to be the least efficient.   I 
just re read the article and it performed well from what I saw.  Not even 
close the least.  I could be mis reading or missed something all together.  
Looking at charts and comments it looked as though the only concern was 
longevity as it's new and un tested, not to mention the problems with the 
switched versions. 

It looked to me that they rated it very high and the graphs showed decent 
performance.   What that a typo and you meant some other hub?  

Confused..

Kelly

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:34:45 AM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>
> Sure. Although I do think that BQ is a publication well worth supporting 
> with a subscription. Lots of great info. 
>
> Hubs tested were 
> Sanyo H27 
> Shimano 3N80 
> SON28 
> SON Delux 
> SON Delux wide-body 
> SP HB013 
> SP PV-8 
>
> Article is "Generator Hubs for Performance Bicycles" 
>
> None were bad. Quality control of SP hubs unknown. 
>
> SP PV-8 is least efficient. 
>
> If on a budget, extra $ better spent on headlights not hub. 
>
> Favorite was SON Delux SL wide body. Wide flange = stronger wheel. Likes 
> SL connector-less system. Low resistance. 
>
> For casual riding Sanyo H27 is tempting. 
>
> That is the nutshell version. 
>
>
> Dan 
>
> Marin 
>
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:21 PM, PATRICK MOORE > 
> wrote: 
>
> > Dan -- can you share with the list, for those who don't subscribe to BQ? 
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Dan McNamara 
> > > 
> wrote: 
> >> I ended up going with a Sanyo hub on my 
> commute/grocery-getter/baby-hauler 
> >> and it has been great. The price is right and it has been solid. There 
> is an 
> >> article on all the current dyno-hubs in the most recent BQ. Lots of 
> info on 
> >> drag and output. I can summarize and email you later tonight. 
> >> 
> >> Dan 
> >> 
> >> Marin 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE 
> >> > 
> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I've not used the newer Sanyo or Supernova hubs, but I have owned 
> >>> several DH3 N72 models which I understand were improved over the 
> >>> earlier ... 71 -- Sheldon had this sorted out. At any rate, he said 
> >>> that the 72 and 80s have the same bearings, so I'm not sure what the 
> >>> difference, if any beside name, is. 
> >>> 
> >>> The 72, at any rate, is an excellent bargain and frankly, I personally 
> >>> don't need anything better than this. I think my SON 20 wheel spins a 
> >>> little more freely than the ...72 wheels, but not so you can tell the 
> >>> difference when riding. IMO and IME, a Shimano hub and the Cyo are 
> >>> excellent value. 
> >>> 
> >>> If I were looking for another dynamo system, I think I might first 
> >>> look for a decent Sanyo BB dynamo and wait to see what some of the new 
> >>> bike generator gadgets come to. There's one that is supposed to affix 
> >>> to any wheel, and another that -- do I remember correctly? -- works 
> >>> off the rim?? Vapor as of now, and I don't have the links, but perhaps 
> >>> someone else can point us to them. 
> >>> 
> >>> The Sanyo BB generator I briefly owned and sold with the Herse worked 
> >>> fine: less drag than a Soubitez bottle (which itself wasn't horrible 
> >>> for shorter distances) and, of course, much cheaper than a hub + 
> >>> wheel. 
> >>> 
> >>> Lastly, there have been several dynohub wheel offers on this list in 
> >>> the last few months that were excellent buys -- this and the boblist 
> >>> might be worth searching. 
> >>> 
> >>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM,  > 
> wrote: 
>  Hi 
>  Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and 
>  realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to 
> ride 
>  after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation 
> Shimano 
>  dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built 
> wheelset on 
>  the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me) 
>  SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and 
> the 
>  time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd 
> like 
>  to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's 
> Shimano, 
>  Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON 
> is 
>  probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a 
> Shimano-type 
>  connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use 
> another CYO 
>  upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is 
> Shimano's 
>  offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one? 
>  Thanks in advance! 
>  
>  Justin "Dyno in the front, batteries in the rear" August 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain length rule-of-thumb?

[Kerry Kunsman]

That method would not work for me.  My drivetrain is configured for 
an extended range and there is no way even a long cage derailer can 
wrap enough chain to go from big-big to little-little.  In my granny 
gear I can only use the lowest (biggest) 4 cogs until the chain goes 
slack.  That's OK, since I don't use the higher gears in the granny 
anyway. If I do forget to shift up to the middle ring soon enough I'm 
reminded by a lot of chain noise and skipping, but no permanent 
harm.  If I didn't configure the chain this way then I couldn't reach 
the big-big combo, and as I mentioned in an earlier post, the results 
of not being able to do that could be disastrous.


Kerry Kunsman
San Diego, CA


At 04:14 PM 10/22/2012, Tom M wrote:
Nick Legan, formerly of VeloNews, approaches it differently 
(http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/11/bikes-and-tech/ask-nick/ask-nick-team-tactics-chain-lengths-choosing-a-new-bike-and-more_197660):


Here's my chain sizing method for a road bike (with entirely 
compatible gearing and derailleurs). I recommend sizing your chain 
using the largest cogset you intend to ride.


-Run the chain through the rear derailleur, on the smallest cog and 
on the small chainring. Pull it to where the chain won't touch the 
pulley cage of the rear derailleur, keeping it as long as possible.


-If you're cautious, mark the pivot that you intend to cut with a 
Sharpie, then run the chain (still through the derailleur) over the 
biggest cog and big chainring. You should have plenty of slack.


On Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:17:47 AM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
I've always found the Park Tool site to be useful...

http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing 





On Oct 19, 5:24 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> I just put a new Sachs P 48 (? Cheap, 8 speed, NIB) on the Fargo and
> found that it is fully two links shorter than the 9 sp chain it
> replaced. It will cover the Big/Big combo (46/34 -- note that the 34
> is in the #7 position) without grumbling but the cage is angled
> considerably forward. The next-to-biggest cog is a 28, I think, and it
> handles that fine.
>
> No chain suck on todays mixed dirt/pavement 26 mile ride, so perhaps
> the added tension is helping keep things in place?
>
> At any rate, given the above -- and the fact that I never use the
> 46/34 anyway; I do use the 46/28 occasionally -- any reason to think
> that I ought to add more links?
>
> --
> Vote early, vote often, vote 
Rhinoceros!http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t

>
> -
> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA
> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, 
ACRWhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html 


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Re: [RBW] Bridgestone X01 fork for sale

[C REINO]

Hi there,

The owner of the shop is a friend of mine and felt awful.  A company called 
handsome bikes makes a X01 replica, and sells replica forks, which he 
bought for me.  Still a bummer though!

On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:21:07 PM UTC-6, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:05 PM, CHRIS REINO 
> > 
> wrote: 
> > Hi All, 
> > 
> > I recently had the headset replaced on my beloved X01 (pumpkin).  The 
> > mechanic, for some reason cut the steerer tube instead of using spacer 
> for 
> > the new headset.  Long story short, he cut it too short and it now does 
> not 
> > fit on on 52 cm frame. 
> > 
> > If there is anyone out there in need of a new, used fork to fit a 52 cm 
> or 
> > smaller X01, I have one, lets chat! 
> > 
>
> I hope the shop who did this thing is going to replace it? 
>
> What a travesty. 
>
> -sv 
>

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[RBW] FS: New 61cm A. Homer Hilsen and build kit

[mbh]

 

For sale: Brand new 61cm Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen frame and full built kit.  


 

Included in this sale is a brand new, never ridden A. Homer Hilsen frame 
and the components (also brand new) for a full build.  This bike and 
components was purchased around 2 years ago (along with a Betty Foy, also 
for sale on a different listing) direct from Rivendell. However, the bike 
was never ridden and shortly after purchase was disassembled for storage.  The 
frame and parts have been carefully and safely stored inside over this 
period of time and remain in perfect, new condition. I’m getting ready to 
move and the time has come to sell. The bike and parts come with the 
original purchase receipt from Rivendell. Ideally I would like to sell 
everything as a set, but I’d be open to selling the frame and the 
components separately.  Please contact me for a la carte pricing if 
interested.

 

$3,400

 

Frame: A. HOMER HILSEN 61cm


Wheels

2x JACK BROWN blue tuff TIRE 622 

2x TUBE 700 x 28 to 32 Medium 

WHEEL 700c Front Romulus

WHEEL 700 R36 LX Synergy asym 

 

Seat:

SEAT POST 27.2 250 Nitto Crystal Fellow


Drivetrain

CRANK SUGINO XD2 172.5 46/36/24 

CASS 9-SPEED 11-32

PEDALS MKS Touring/CycloCross 

CHAIN 9sp 

DER R shimano deore RR LONG 

DER F Campy Triple 28.67 

Bottom Bracker: BB 107 Tange Super


Brakes

BRAKE CALIPERS SILVER 55-7

BRAKE LEVERS Mtn. Bike 


Handle Bar

HANDLEBAR ALBATROSS CrMo 56 nitto 

Grips Miesha’s cork Bar End shifter style

STEM Nitto Technomic Dlx 11cm 25


Accessories

KICKSTAND Pletscher TWO-LEGGER BLK 

Front Rack: RACK NITTO MARK’S 

Rear Rack: RACK NITTO R14 


 

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[RBW] Seeking Carradice-made RBW 'hobo' Handlebar bag

[Sam Powrie]

Hi Folks,
For my Carradice bedecked English ruffstuff bike I'd really like to  
get hold of one of those black(ish) strap on 'hobo pattern' handlebar  
bags that RBW had custom made by Carradice a few years ago.
They had a zip across the top and I think a couple of small flap  
pockets at the back. A similar bag is made today by Acorn but  
unfortunately not sold outside the USA.
If anyone has one cluttering up their space and would like to sell it  
for a reasonable sum it would make me a happy camper!

Sam,
Adelaide. 


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[RBW] Re: Tan sackville's

[ChrisB]

Hi All, Does anyone know if the shop sacks and tour sacks will be available 
in the tan or the grid grey fabric? I loved the dusty trail look of the old 
Baggins bags Chris

On Tuesday, 23 October 2012 20:42:55 UTC+1, Eric wrote:

> I can't wait for the trunksacks in tan! 
>
> I own both in Olive & Grid Grey so I would have to have a set in tan! 
> Ha! 
>
> On Oct 18, 9:32 am, Leslie  wrote: 
> > Saw that;   one reason why I'd kept going w/ Acorns over Sackvilles was 
> the 
> > lack of tan;  my kids have nicknamed me 'Khaki-Man'... 
>

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[RBW] Re: More breathless excitement over the new Sackville

[Jim Cloud]

Hi Patrick,

Sounds like you've found saddlebag Nirvana!  Obviously, Grant has a
lot of experience designing, and selling, saddlebags.  His description
of the current model saddlebags reflects a good deal of pride:
http://www.rivbike.com/Accessories-s/115.htm

I'm still considering more actively using my Carradice Pendle
saddlebag, which generally has languished in the top of a closet.
It's a special model that was made for the now discontinued Heron
Randonneur bike.  It's made in the traditional black canvas but has
natural color leather straps rather than the white ones commonly
available.  Todd Kuzma, the owner of the Heron bike operation, wanted
the saddlebag to match the Berthoud handlebar bags that equipped his
Randonneur bike.

I'd still like to find a suitable carrier that supports the bag (on a
large 65cm frame), without sagging.  The most suitable model seems to
be the Carradice Bagman Q/R Sport model, which has unfortunately been
replaced with a "New Improved!" model (MK2).  The latest model is only
available in black finish (ugh...) and has some struts that attach to
the seatstays, not my "cup of tea".

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ
On Oct 24, 5:58 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> For me, the Sackville is better news than my indeed excellent
> home-brew mounting bracket. Just did a couple of grocery and PO runs:
> smaller loads, nothing much over 10 lb, but: what a NICE bag! I don't
> mean the hoity toity quality: Carradice quality would suit me fine;
> but the design is the best I've seen for getting max vol with max
> clearance.
>
> Again, I like the look of the old fashioned Carradice bags better, but
> man, this just works! The side pockets hold (right) all my repair kit
> that fills most of a Banana Bag; the left holds all my light kit (Sam
> Browne, extra batteries, extra rear blinkie, backup PB Blaze
> headlight; ankle strap) plus overflow musette, all of which, again,
> takes up most of a Banana. The snap-on pouch carries my 16 oz cluster
> of keys with room to spare.
>
> I may have to put the stiffener back in; or I may just rivet in a
> stiff strut of aluminum stock to keep the bag from sagging onto the
> tire with heavy load. Must experiment more, first, before doing
> either.
>
> Wonderful bag! I bet, too, my Riv could accomodate the Large, but
> really, the Med is just right -- I have the Fargo with front and rear
> panniers for really large loads, anyway.
>
> 21 miles just now picking up Mom's accumulated junk mail and a few groceries.
>
> A NICE bag!
>
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[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Jon Doyle]

For transportation purposes, get the Sanyo. I read the recent BQ article, 
have used high-end Shimano dynamo hubs, and would buy a Sanyo hub for my 
commuting bike.

Jon
Watertown, MA 

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:28:36 PM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi
> Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and 
> realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to ride 
> after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation Shimano 
> dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built wheelset 
> on the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me) 
> SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and the 
> time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd like 
> to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's Shimano, 
> Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON is 
> probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a Shimano-type 
> connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use another CYO 
> upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is Shimano's 
> offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one?
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Justin "Dyno in the front, batteries in the rear" August
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Ergon PC2 Pedals, SRAM Doubletap shifters, Pearl Izumi jacket XL

[Shifty]

Still have SRAM 10 speed shifter/brake levers for sale including all 
cables. Shifters are flawless, no sign of use whatsoever. $220 includes 
Priority Mail to 48 states.

On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:33:28 PM UTC-5, Shifty wrote:
>
> SRAM 2x10 Apex Doubletap shifters. Just took these off a new Salsa Fargo 
> 2, only one month old. They work perfect and are in mint condition–no 
> scratches.$220 Shipped CONUS.
>
> Ergon PC2 Pedals. Like new condition, used 3 months. $60 Shipped CONUS.
>
> Pearl Izumi Vagabond men's convertible jacket. Size XL, red. Sleeves zip 
> off and stow in back pocket which converts into fanny pack. Quite clever. 
> Very good condition. $40 Shipped CONUS.
>
> Take $5 off for each combined item going to same address in same box. 
> Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/48044796@N02/
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Re: [RBW] New to me Sackville Medium mounted on new, home-made QR bracket

[Andrew Letton]

Patrick- your photo link is broken... 
cheers,
Andrew

On Oct 24, 2012, at 11:58, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Kaloo Kalay! UPS dropped it off this am, an almost new Medium I
> cornered on eBay for $120 shipped (and the seller through in unasked
> and unannounced a nice Vetta Turbo clone and a as-new Lezyne Pressure
> Drive. What a deal!
> 
> Here it is mounted on a bracket I spent several hours on yesterday. It
> copies the design of the Nitto bracket but with the big difference
> that the arms angle upward so that you can use it with a non-Brooks
> saddle. The Nitto arms are in the same plane as the mounting piece
> which works for saddles like the B 17 whose rails angle upward at
> almost 90*, but which put the mounting part very low on saddles like
> the Flite where the rails angle upward at a considerably lesser angle.
> 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NEWSACKVILLEMANDHOMEMADEMOUNTINGBRACKET#
> 
> The bracket actually looks less crude than in the closeups; my only
> concern is that the aluminum plate is a bit thinner than I'd like. No
> sign of flex but eventually I may get a professional to cut me a
> better one from stainless steel plate, say 3/16". Perhaps I'd add QR
> slots on thicker stock, so that I could use a QR skewer and simply
> lift it off; I'd also try to find a thicker -- 1"+ -- piece of tubing,
> both for better bracket support and for easier blinkie mounting.
> 
> As pictured it is not "QR because I used an allen skewer, but with a
> true QR it would be, since it then is just a matter of loosening the
> QR and unscrewing the skewer nut. The absence of QR slots makes the
> bag less liable to theft. Or perhaps I'll have them added and simply
> take the bag with me ...
> 
> The Sackville is certainly the best made bag I've seen or owned, and
> I've seen Berthouds and used everything from Carradices to Baggins to
> Acorns to who knows what else. Snooty purse quality. I must say that I
> like the look of the old fashioned Carradice bags better, but for
> practical volume with tire clearance, this is much better. I even
> removed the extra stiffener installed by the previous owner; the
> internal stiffener seems adequate, tho' I plan to test this guess this
> afternoon with a trip to the grocery store.
> 
> Question: assuming I could get my hands on 3/16 or 1/4" stainless
> stock, what is the minimum I'd need to cut this? Would a cheap skilsaw
> do the trick? I used heavy metal shears for the aluminum plate.
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[John Lee]

I have the OEM version of the Supernova hub (A Shutter Precision PV-8). 
It's pretty much unnoticeable and has been utterly reliable despite a crash 
and many many rain days. I'm sure the Shimano hubs are pretty reliable as 
well.

On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 8:28:36 PM UTC-4, justin...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi
> Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and 
> realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to ride 
> after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation Shimano 
> dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built wheelset 
> on the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me) 
> SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and the 
> time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd like 
> to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's Shimano, 
> Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON is 
> probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a Shimano-type 
> connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use another CYO 
> upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is Shimano's 
> offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one?
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Justin "Dyno in the front, batteries in the rear" August
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[Daniel]

I recall reading the internals of the 70, 71, 72 and 80 are roughly the 
same. And I believe the 72 and 80 are roughly identical, save for an Al 
axle in the 80 (vs steel in the 72 and lower).
 
I never really bothered to sort out the specs on the Alfine.
 
Of course, Peter White has a good amount of information on the various hubs 
on his site and Anthony at Long Leaf does as well. Anthony makes nice 
wheels at prices just a hair more than the Handspun stuff. I had a set of 
his wheels in the past and didn't have any issues with them. Plus I've 
cooresponded with him on a few things and he's always been responsive, 
detailed, and cordial.
 
Also, a lot of these dynamo hubs (and lights) can be had for a lot less if 
you order from a European supplier.
 
Daniel

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:52:07 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

> And: what is the difference between the ...72, the 71, the 80, and the 
> Alfine? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv's New Pedals

[steel lugs]

Appreciate all the rider comments out in the field.  Given the lower
profile, would assume I would have to lower my saddle slightly to
compensate.  Anyone know exactly how many mm difference there is between
the VP Gripster and MKS Touring?

May have to give these a try, though I wish they still came in bright
silver (as shown in the RBW pedal comparison video as opposed to the dark
grey)...




On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:46 AM, BSWP  wrote:

> I'm equally pleased with the new pedals on my QuickBeam. Whether riding
> fixed, or on the freewheel, they're an improvement over the older MKS RX-1
> pedals with toe clips I had been using. I thought I would need clips when
> riding fixed, but... not so much. I'm "just riding" by mashing down, and
> the main thing the clips were giving me was consistent placement of my foot
> on the pedal. But I quickly find the right spot for my feet on the VP
> pedals, and the spikes seem to help hold my shoes right there. I'm going to
> get a pair for my wife's B'Stone, and for my RBW LongLow as well.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:43:01 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Sometimes if you're patient enough and wait long enough good things come
>> your way.  This is the case (in my case, anyway) with Riv's new platform
>> pedal offering from VIP.  When I spied these on their web catalog I ordered
>> a pair right away and have not been disappointed with them in any way -
>> they are exactly what Riv (Grant?) describes them to be.  I replaced the
>> cheap, clunky old MoSH BMX pedals on my Rambouillet and went for a test
>> spin.  They do, indeed, have a much lower profile and the pedaling is much,
>> much smoother presumably due to higher quality axles and bearings.  I also
>> noticed that the exposed threads on the pins that are screwed into these
>> pedals tend to grip much better than the smooth-ended pins in my old ones.
>>  But then there was one more surprise:  all of the creaking and other
>> racket I couldn't exactly identify in my drive train has disappeared!  Riv
>> also offers these pedals at around the same price as any of the other Web
>> retailers so no need to look anyplace else.
>>
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[RBW] 5 speed freewheel on modern hub / frame?

[John L]

Have in interest in trying out a drivetrain based a used shimano 600 half 
step - granny crankset I picked up on Ebay.  I'd like to mate it to an IRD 
13-32 hub, but the gear spacing works out much cleaner and with less 
duplication I use the 5 speed as opposed to 7 speed hub.  But this would be 
on a bike w/ 135mm dropout spacing, and I'd like to use the Rivy hub. 
 Could I make a 5 speed freewheel work with some spacers?  

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RE: [RBW] Wood

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Jonathan:

Beautiful Riv Road!

How (if at all) do you treat/maintain the rims' braking surfaces when the 
finish is worn off?  I, too, really like wooden rims, but the first couple of 
sets I built used Sturmey drum brake hubs, to avoid the rim wear issue.  Now I 
have a set with a caliper brake on an A.N.T.-built  fixed gear, and I'm 
wondering whether any care is required.

Tom

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Poor
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:41 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Wood

Grant's blog about the wood bar-end shifters made me think it was time to 
upload pictures of my '98 Riv Road that I'm currently running with a set of 
wood rims.

The wheels, laced with 36 "Revolution" butted spokes and shod with 27mm cotton 
tubulars (80psi) are nicely comfy. The wheels are 5 or 6 years old now.

Contrary to Grant's story, I wouldn't say they are high maintenance at all. 
They are quite tough -- I can even ride them off road!  (thanks to the 26 
chainring in front).

Here's the link:

https://picasaweb.google.com/109331262996071703108/RivendellRoad_1998?authkey=Gv1sRgCKm72_LU2rq6DA#

Let me know if this doesn't work!

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[RBW] Re: 5 speed freewheel on modern hub / frame?

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Pay attention to the limit screws on the derailleur, but other than that, 
it ought to be doable.  A little odd looking, perhaps... 

Your 5 speed is going to be - what - about 10 mm narrower than the 7?   And 
then you are putting it onto a hub spacing designed for wide mtb gearing.

I'd pay some attention to the chainline, as that could affect things.  
Also, don't shim it out from the hub center so much that you lose good 
thread contact between the hub and freewheel.  It would be a shame to lever 
that thing off, taking two or three layers of threads with it. 

AASHTA -
http://sheldonbrown.com/chainline.html

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/freewheels.html#speeds


- Jim / cyclofiend.com

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:38:53 AM UTC-7, John L wrote:
>
> Have in interest in trying out a drivetrain based a used shimano 600 half 
> step - granny crankset I picked up on Ebay.  I'd like to mate it to an IRD 
> 13-32 hub, but the gear spacing works out much cleaner and with less 
> duplication I use the 5 speed as opposed to 7 speed hub.  But this would be 
> on a bike w/ 135mm dropout spacing, and I'd like to use the Rivy hub. 
>  Could I make a 5 speed freewheel work with some spacers?  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 650b wheelset, long-reach brakes

[justinaugust]

I have a fixed gear 650b machine. L O V E it. 

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Re: [RBW] 5 speed freewheel on modern hub / frame?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Half step is great gearing for commuting, imo. Your 5 speed fw ought
to work fine: just adjust the derailleur travel limit screws. After
all, if the rd can handle 7 or more, it can handle a 5-er that fits
within the inward and outward limits of one of those cogsets.

I used to run a half-step plus bailouts on my erstwhile '95 Riv
custom: something like a 46/49 or 47/50 with a 13-15-17-19-22-26-32,
halfstepping the middle five cogs. Cruising gears, for most of my
riding, were on the 17: 71" and 67" with 559X32 mm Pasela; just flip
the left lever back and forth: perfect indexing! I used Kelly
Take-Offs with old Record shifters. I used the 13/94" with the 49 as a
downhill gear and the 32/36" as a lazy-load-wind-hill gear with the
46.

Hell, fiddling with gear ratios is almost as fun as riding them!

Patrick Moore, who just lugged 20 lb home in the new Sackville in a 72" gear.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:38 AM, John L  wrote:
> Have in interest in trying out a drivetrain based a used shimano 600 half
> step - granny crankset I picked up on Ebay.  I'd like to mate it to an IRD
> 13-32 hub, but the gear spacing works out much cleaner and with less
> duplication I use the 5 speed as opposed to 7 speed hub.  But this would be
> on a bike w/ 135mm dropout spacing, and I'd like to use the Rivy hub.  Could
> I make a 5 speed freewheel work with some spacers?
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Re: [RBW] Wood

[PATRICK MOORE]

Jonathan: That is the classiest Riv I've seen in a long time! What a
lovely bike! Wood rims, tubulars and Revolutions! And a wide range TA
Pro 5 Vis!

Please explain: what is the big ring, and what are the cogs?

How is braking on wood?

Do you need special pads?

Are those toe straps set up a la Powergrips?

I've wanted to try tubulars, but with goatheads out here so evilly
common, it just doesn't make sense.

I remember Nashbar, sometime within the last 10 years, blowing out
what must have been a really old, **old** stock of wood rims -- I was
tempted.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Jonathan Poor  wrote:
> Grant's blog about the wood bar-end shifters made me think it was time to
> upload pictures of my '98 Riv Road that I'm currently running with a set of
> wood rims.
>
> The wheels, laced with 36 "Revolution" butted spokes and shod with 27mm
> cotton tubulars (80psi) are nicely comfy. The wheels are 5 or 6 years old
> now.
>
> Contrary to Grant's story, I wouldn't say they are high maintenance at all.
> They are quite tough -- I can even ride them off road!  (thanks to the 26
> chainring in front).
>
> Here's the link:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/109331262996071703108/RivendellRoad_1998?authkey=Gv1sRgCKm72_LU2rq6DA#
>
> Let me know if this doesn't work!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain length rule-of-thumb?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I once set up a mountain bike (one of those bikes I wish I had kept:
'91 Specialized Stumpjumper Team; wonderful frame) with a 48/38/24
14-34 7 speed drivetrain using a 8 speed era Ultegra (= short cage)
rd. It worked fine, tho' it would grumble climbing onto the 34 when it
was covered in sand. I simply let the chain dangle in the granny: the
Ultegra would hold the chain fine on the two (or so) largest cogs, but
beyond those, the chain would sag on the bottom rung like Jean Robic's
with the Simplex 543 as he tried to keep up with Coppi.

I never had any problems on the few occasions that I shifted into
something smaller than the 28.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Kerry Kunsman  wrote:
> That method would not work for me.  My drivetrain is configured for an
> extended range and there is no way even a long cage derailer can wrap enough
> chain to go from big-big to little-little.  In my granny gear I can only use
> the lowest (biggest) 4 cogs until the chain goes slack.  That's OK, since I
> don't use the higher gears in the granny anyway. If I do forget to shift up
> to the middle ring soon enough I'm reminded by a lot of chain noise and
> skipping, but no permanent harm.  If I didn't configure the chain this way
> then I couldn't reach the big-big combo, and as I mentioned in an earlier
> post, the results of not being able to do that could be disastrous.
>
> Kerry Kunsman
> San Diego, CA
>
>
> At 04:14 PM 10/22/2012, Tom M wrote:
>
> Nick Legan, formerly of VeloNews, approaches it differently (
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/11/bikes-and-tech/ask-nick/ask-nick-team-tactics-chain-lengths-choosing-a-new-bike-and-more_197660
> ):
>
> Here’s my chain sizing method for a road bike (with entirely compatible
> gearing and derailleurs). I recommend sizing your chain using the largest
> cogset you intend to ride.
>
> -Run the chain through the rear derailleur, on the smallest cog and on the
> small chainring. Pull it to where the chain won’t touch the pulley cage of
> the rear derailleur, keeping it as long as possible.
>
> -If you’re cautious, mark the pivot that you intend to cut with a Sharpie,
> then run the chain (still through the derailleur) over the biggest cog and
> big chainring. You should have plenty of slack.
>
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 3:17:47 AM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:
> I've always found the Park Tool site to be useful...
>
> http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 5:24 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> I just put a new Sachs P 48 (? Cheap, 8 speed, NIB) on the Fargo and
>> found that it is fully two links shorter than the 9 sp chain it
>> replaced. It will cover the Big/Big combo (46/34 -- note that the 34
>> is in the #7 position) without grumbling but the cage is angled
>> considerably forward. The next-to-biggest cog is a 28, I think, and it
>> handles that fine.
>>
>> No chain suck on todays mixed dirt/pavement 26 mile ride, so perhaps
>> the added tension is helping keep things in place?
>>
>> At any rate, given the above -- and the fact that I never use the
>> 46/34 anyway; I do use the 46/28 occasionally -- any reason to think
>> that I ought to add more links?
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Re: [RBW] New to me Sackville Medium mounted on new, home-made QR bracket

[PATRICK MOORE]

It should work now -- forgot to set it "public".

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NEWSACKVILLEMANDHOMEMADEMOUNTINGBRACKET

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Andrew Letton  wrote:
>
> Patrick- your photo link is broken...
> cheers,
> Andrew
>
> On Oct 24, 2012, at 11:58, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>> Kaloo Kalay! UPS dropped it off this am, an almost new Medium I
>> cornered on eBay for $120 shipped (and the seller through in unasked
>> and unannounced a nice Vetta Turbo clone and a as-new Lezyne Pressure
>> Drive. What a deal!
>>
>> Here it is mounted on a bracket I spent several hours on yesterday. It
>> copies the design of the Nitto bracket but with the big difference
>> that the arms angle upward so that you can use it with a non-Brooks
>> saddle. The Nitto arms are in the same plane as the mounting piece
>> which works for saddles like the B 17 whose rails angle upward at
>> almost 90*, but which put the mounting part very low on saddles like
>> the Flite where the rails angle upward at a considerably lesser angle.
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NEWSACKVILLEMANDHOMEMADEMOUNTINGBRACKET#
>>
>> The bracket actually looks less crude than in the closeups; my only
>> concern is that the aluminum plate is a bit thinner than I'd like. No
>> sign of flex but eventually I may get a professional to cut me a
>> better one from stainless steel plate, say 3/16". Perhaps I'd add QR
>> slots on thicker stock, so that I could use a QR skewer and simply
>> lift it off; I'd also try to find a thicker -- 1"+ -- piece of tubing,
>> both for better bracket support and for easier blinkie mounting.
>>
>> As pictured it is not "QR because I used an allen skewer, but with a
>> true QR it would be, since it then is just a matter of loosening the
>> QR and unscrewing the skewer nut. The absence of QR slots makes the
>> bag less liable to theft. Or perhaps I'll have them added and simply
>> take the bag with me ...
>>
>> The Sackville is certainly the best made bag I've seen or owned, and
>> I've seen Berthouds and used everything from Carradices to Baggins to
>> Acorns to who knows what else. Snooty purse quality. I must say that I
>> like the look of the old fashioned Carradice bags better, but for
>> practical volume with tire clearance, this is much better. I even
>> removed the extra stiffener installed by the previous owner; the
>> internal stiffener seems adequate, tho' I plan to test this guess this
>> afternoon with a trip to the grocery store.
>>
>> Question: assuming I could get my hands on 3/16 or 1/4" stainless
>> stock, what is the minimum I'd need to cut this? Would a cheap skilsaw
>> do the trick? I used heavy metal shears for the aluminum plate.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynohub opinions

[PATRICK MOORE]

Thanks, Daniel -- good point about ordering from Europe.

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Daniel  wrote:
> I recall reading the internals of the 70, 71, 72 and 80 are roughly the
> same. And I believe the 72 and 80 are roughly identical, save for an Al axle
> in the 80 (vs steel in the 72 and lower).
>
> I never really bothered to sort out the specs on the Alfine.
>
> Of course, Peter White has a good amount of information on the various hubs
> on his site and Anthony at Long Leaf does as well. Anthony makes nice wheels
> at prices just a hair more than the Handspun stuff. I had a set of his
> wheels in the past and didn't have any issues with them. Plus I've
> cooresponded with him on a few things and he's always been responsive,
> detailed, and cordial.
>
> Also, a lot of these dynamo hubs (and lights) can be had for a lot less if
> you order from a European supplier.
>
> Daniel
>
> On Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:52:07 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> And: what is the difference between the ...72, the 71, the 80, and the
>> Alfine?
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RE: [RBW] Re: WTB: 650b wheelset, long-reach brakes

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

+1.  My first fixed gear, Hetres on an A.N.T.-built truss bike.  It's a cushy 
blast.

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I have a fixed gear 650b machine. L O V E it. 

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Re: [RBW] Dynohub opinions

[Dan McNamara]

Took that out of context. The SP-Dynamo PV-8 was least efficient downhill at 
night. 



On Oct 25, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Kelly  wrote:

> I couldn't find where you found the SP PV-8 to be the least efficient.   I 
> just re read the article and it performed well from what I saw.  Not even 
> close the least.  I could be mis reading or missed something all together.  
> Looking at charts and comments it looked as though the only concern was 
> longevity as it's new and un tested, not to mention the problems with the 
> switched versions. 
> 
> It looked to me that they rated it very high and the graphs showed decent 
> performance.   What that a typo and you meant some other hub?  
> 
> Confused..
> 
> Kelly
> 
> On Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:34:45 AM UTC-5, danmc wrote:
>> 
>> Sure. Although I do think that BQ is a publication well worth supporting 
>> with a subscription. Lots of great info. 
>> 
>> Hubs tested were 
>> Sanyo H27 
>> Shimano 3N80 
>> SON28 
>> SON Delux 
>> SON Delux wide-body 
>> SP HB013 
>> SP PV-8 
>> 
>> Article is "Generator Hubs for Performance Bicycles" 
>> 
>> None were bad. Quality control of SP hubs unknown. 
>> 
>> SP PV-8 is least efficient. 
>> 
>> If on a budget, extra $ better spent on headlights not hub. 
>> 
>> Favorite was SON Delux SL wide body. Wide flange = stronger wheel. Likes SL 
>> connector-less system. Low resistance. 
>> 
>> For casual riding Sanyo H27 is tempting. 
>> 
>> That is the nutshell version. 
>> 
>> 
>> Dan 
>> 
>> Marin 
>> 
>> On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:21 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote: 
>> 
>> > Dan -- can you share with the list, for those who don't subscribe to BQ? 
>> > 
>> > Thanks. 
>> > 
>> > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote: 
>> >> I ended up going with a Sanyo hub on my 
>> >> commute/grocery-getter/baby-hauler 
>> >> and it has been great. The price is right and it has been solid. There is 
>> >> an 
>> >> article on all the current dyno-hubs in the most recent BQ. Lots of info 
>> >> on 
>> >> drag and output. I can summarize and email you later tonight. 
>> >> 
>> >> Dan 
>> >> 
>> >> Marin 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:50 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> I've not used the newer Sanyo or Supernova hubs, but I have owned 
>> >>> several DH3 N72 models which I understand were improved over the 
>> >>> earlier ... 71 -- Sheldon had this sorted out. At any rate, he said 
>> >>> that the 72 and 80s have the same bearings, so I'm not sure what the 
>> >>> difference, if any beside name, is. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> The 72, at any rate, is an excellent bargain and frankly, I personally 
>> >>> don't need anything better than this. I think my SON 20 wheel spins a 
>> >>> little more freely than the ...72 wheels, but not so you can tell the 
>> >>> difference when riding. IMO and IME, a Shimano hub and the Cyo are 
>> >>> excellent value. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> If I were looking for another dynamo system, I think I might first 
>> >>> look for a decent Sanyo BB dynamo and wait to see what some of the new 
>> >>> bike generator gadgets come to. There's one that is supposed to affix 
>> >>> to any wheel, and another that -- do I remember correctly? -- works 
>> >>> off the rim?? Vapor as of now, and I don't have the links, but perhaps 
>> >>> someone else can point us to them. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> The Sanyo BB generator I briefly owned and sold with the Herse worked 
>> >>> fine: less drag than a Soubitez bottle (which itself wasn't horrible 
>> >>> for shorter distances) and, of course, much cheaper than a hub + 
>> >>> wheel. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Lastly, there have been several dynohub wheel offers on this list in 
>> >>> the last few months that were excellent buys -- this and the boblist 
>> >>> might be worth searching. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM,   wrote: 
>>  Hi 
>>  Today I did my first mixed mode commute (bus in AM, bike in PM) and 
>>  realized how much I truly need dynohub lighting on any bike I plan to 
>>  ride 
>>  after dark or at dusk here in Philly. I have a previous generation 
>>  Shimano 
>>  dynohub on my Saluki and love it. Also the same on my Rich-built 
>>  wheelset on 
>>  the lady's Univega commuter conversion. Today I rode my (new to me) 
>>  SimpleOne home and realized that with my job (2nd grade teacher) and 
>>  the 
>>  time of year I'm going to be riding home in the dark quite a bit. I'd 
>>  like 
>>  to not have my riding choice limited so I turn to you. Now there's 
>>  Shimano, 
>>  Sanyo, SON, Supernova, that other one and who knows? I think that SON 
>>  is 
>>  probably out. Too expensive and I think I'd like to have a Shimano-type 
>>  connector. No need to power a tail light but I'll probably use another 
>>  CYO 
>>  upfront and maybe a ToutTerrain USB charger. What say you? Is Shimano's 
>>  offering solid enough? What about Supernova and that other new one? 
>>  Thanks in advance! 

[RBW] Re: Rivendell owners and Jefferson Airplane...

[Eric Peterson]

You might want to check out this band who made a single album:
http://therisingstorm.net/wizards-from-kansas-self-titled/


On Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:13:02 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
>
> Are you both a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan?
>  
> Was wondering about the SanFran cultural/possible generational link.
>  
> I am a Marylander. But a Rivendell owner and Jefferson Airplane fan. 
> Listening to "You're my Best Friend" while cycling on quiet roads in the 
> Spring is such a nice feeling.
>  
> There is a Rivendell/Mac question on Jim's site. Though more obscure, 
> thought I would ask this one because of the SF area focus of the two, and 
> I'm a fan of both.
>  
> Moderator, feel free to remove if this question is not approporiate to the 
> forum, with my apologies...
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